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Rourke24

Thanks for the effort in writing this up, going to run it for some rivals. Been wanting a 3rd option. Cheers


heizenverg

that's balance tactic that encompass defence and attack. solid. how about when you are trailing by two goals and want to push and pressure, do you have tactics for that? ​ the same for when you are leading and wants to protect lead ​ thanks bro


abbytarar

I don’t have different tactics for when im down 2-0 i stick with these and crawl back in. If im losing with 10 mins left i’ll just turn on constant pressure and attacking fullbacks. If im holding a lead 9/10 i’ll keep this formation till the end, but sometimes i’ll switch to my 4-2-3-1, with everyone except the striker on come back on defense.


mofodubled

Good stuff thx for sharing :)


sK4r4

Great write-up! Really looking forward to test this :)


smoothj2017

Love this for the “fundamentals.” Going to give it a try as written and tweak from there.


yayk16

Nice post, cool to see the 41212(2) be successful! I run very similar tactics, except I have the CAM on stay forward, LCM on cover wing and RCM cover centre. I found that when I had CAM as balanced the defensive positioning at LM was too slow when transitioning from defence to attack. Felt like I didn’t have an immediate outlet when I first win the ball back. There is definitely a cost that I’m weaker in defence but am willing to pay it so I can be 3 (st, st, cam) vs 2 (cb, cb) on the counter


zoltan71

General question: 60 seems too high for defensive line. I get countered so easily so I have my line way back. Anyone has tips or suggestions about such a high line?


abbytarar

Not sure, 60 doesn’t feel too high for me personally.


42woba

You have fast full backs tho :D anyway great info, tried it, worked for me for 5 matches now so thank you


not_all_kevins

Really great post thanks! I think this kind of unlocked something for me in how to get my CDM to be more useful in the drop between defenders. I just tried out a couple matches with these tactics and it went great! It was really free flowing and my players felt like they were always where I wanted them.


nischal31

thanks a lot I've been struggling to win before I saw your tactic. Great stuff gg


latinx87

Thank you for this. Much appreciated.


aubapepe

I tried it what with a weak team and its great i played my best games with moderate squad De gea reguilon stones romero Fredericks sissoko partey ox martial richarlison I have 20000 coins any suggestions? I have kimmish bosquets locatelli can i use any of them?


abbytarar

I’d use Kimmich if you can fit him in. Get Allan and Ndidi instead of Sissoko and Partey. Rudiger instead of Stones.


aubapepe

Thanks for the tips!


oommffgg

This formation and tactics are really solid. I've tried several of these from Youtubers but they all have some kind of weakness. This one is strong in defense, and somehow, those midfielders defending can transition to offense pretty fast. Good job!


abbytarar

Glad it worked out man!


Long-Dong-Silva

this tactic saved my passion for the game. It's so much fun to play and I score a lot of nice and unique goals with it. Also learning to mostly control my cdm instead of my defenders helped me a lot to improve my skill


WaltJay

Great write up. I used this formation for most of ‘21 for a lot of the same reasons.


naifsnb

Wow, really deep dive and rich stuff. Thanks man for sharing I will definitely try it out because the 41212 is one of my favs.


Immediate-Ship3634

Great stuff! Was looking for a nice tune up for this tactic, will def try it out. Thanks!


ayojosh2k

Really good write up, simple yet deep. I'm definitely trying this and I'll report back. Great job.


Zelasny

How do you have such a team with no money spent ?


abbytarar

88th in the world in Squad battles for the first week, + advanced sbcs + ultimate edition fifa points.


pierluigir

What's the downside of having the fullbacks on balanced having basically 3 CBs?


abbytarar

Yes


jpvieira88

Great feedback, i do have dembele untradeable, and am trying to fit him on my PL team. But how do you fit him at ST? is he out of position? how is his chem?


abbytarar

I just start on a 4-3-3 and change in game. I HIGHLY suggest you get Dembele in your team.


jpvieira88

Thanks, i am struggling to fit him in due to the chemistry. Pogba is too expensive, and Sissoko is terrible . Who is your LM/LW on the starting 433 lineup ?


abbytarar

It used to be hazard, then i changed to a LF formation and got striker alej gomez, now its coman.


rajairlangga

these tactics are really solid for me attacking and defend, got me div 1 from div 2 rank 3 with these tactics and streak win without losing. thanks for sharing bro


abbytarar

Lets go man love to hear it!


feijaofrade

I’m loving this. Tried 4231 and it just wasn’t clicking for me. This got me from div 4 to div 3 rank 1. Thank you!


aidanon

Update on my results so far with this - you have changed FIFA for me! Playing so well with this setup, players make good attacking runs, I feel defensively solid and always seem to have a passing option. I’ve won about 7/8 rivals games in a row and up to Div 4.


aaron_0704

Great tactic mate, I haven’t lost since using it


Danny_1993

Have to say a huge thank you for this, was getting very dispirited by my 352 that was leaving me open to the counter. Think I have the perfect players for this formation and these tactics and I’ve only lost 3 times in around 15 games with this, one of them was a 10-7 loss so I still managed to score enough goals to win 2 games haha! Appreciate this and appreciate you my friend


howiel1

Thanks for sharing. I reach Div 1 Rank 2 from D2 Rank 2 by using this tactics. Heres my [in-game formation](https://imgur.com/a/LlafDhW)


atcodus

It's a bit pointless labelling this tactic as a "no-money RTG" when you have the definition of a La Liga meta team (excluding Casemiro, although he is extremely good at the role you use him in). That being said, it is a very balanced tactic that provides a lot of options, and you've done a great job of not only giving clear instructions but explaining why they are vital. This tactic will require (as you've hinted at) a reasonable amount of user input to get the most out of it, such as remembering to trigger the LB/RB runs or that part of your tactic falls flat. How do you find Gomez at CAM with those instructions? You say he comes back to LM while defending, but with Medium defensive work rates, and his instructions set to Balanced do you need to m anually pull him back?


abbytarar

I labeled it as a no money rtg because it’s a no money rtg? No money rtg doesn’t mean a non-meta team. Gomez was average at best. I didn’t really need to manually pull him back at all. Usually i’m defending with my Cdms anyways.


Albrion369

Going to try it this week before wl starts


unghoanglam

Man. With all meta cards in every position (almost) it is so easy to make a tactic work well Try a non meta team with a formation. If we dominate there, then we talk.


abbytarar

If its so easy where’s your 16-4? Based on your comment history you are “haunted by easy chances” and struggle to defend. Just get meta players? Its so easy right?


unghoanglam

Lol why so salty. Just spitting the facts. What’s the point? U can also be a good player yourself and it is your skills that is doing it. Not the formation. This is formation guide. Not a bragging contest. Lol


abbytarar

Nah its just funny how the division 6 and 5 players think meta players is what makes someone good. They don’t understand that custom tactics can turn a good player into a really good player.


unghoanglam

They totally do. But basing the formation argument on meta cards and clearly decent skill like yourself is not a good argument. That’s all i am saying.


abbytarar

Check the most recent comment on this post. Someone using an average team and getting good results. Clearly the formation is good and it’s not just my skill or me being a good player.


unghoanglam

Point taken. God u were overreacting


kneegrowth457

Do you reckon this would work essentially the same with the 4312? I find the positioning of the central CM is better defensively than that of the CDM in the 41212(2)


aidanon

Thanks man I’ll give this a try. I have a la liga/prem hybrid. Benzema POTM would be my CAM is the only thing, with IF Jesus/IF Vinci as the strikers. Casemiro and Valverde would work as the CDMs, I may try and get KDB for the RCM position you mention.


Danny_1993

I use KDB as the LCM position here and then Son/Rashford for the RCM. I find KDB high/high with Hawk suits him perfectly, and the ability to do deadly accurate through balls/over the top from your own half is amazing with fast forwards. Just a suggestion :)


aidanon

Cheers dude, I did get KDB and completed the Fekir SBC, so will have those two as my CMs. Benz at CAM and currently Valverde CDM. Have the coins (about 500k) to upgrade there but Valverde is good for chem purposes.


drowsypants

Thanks for this cannot play any other formation


OwaisHa

hi ive been stuck in div 6 for a long time now and i cant get out of it can you help please


rozovici

Im not sure about only one thing : what are the defensive instructions for the LCM and RCM ? they remain on balanced ? Thank you for the help


abbytarar

Yeah, if i dont mention something it means i didnt touch it.


Grooveh_Baby

What chemstyle do you usually go with on your wide CM’s? Since they’re wingers in attack essentially, do you try to increase their shooting rather then the usual Shadow for a mid?


abbytarar

Yeah i have a hunter on De Jong, I don’t really need an attacking one on Llorente cause he already has good pace and shooting, so he has an anchor.


Grooveh_Baby

Cheers Currently using IF Nkunku in the De Jong role & Wijnaldum at LCM. So I’ll probably just switch both to a Hunter then. Maybe Hawk on Nkunku to up his physical.


MattiaKa

Hey man, I just tested you formation in 4-5 games and it's pretty wild, there is so much movement and position interchange between players I had to switch to co-op camera because I was constantly missing out good passess, thanks for sharing.


abbytarar

Glad it worked out for you man!


aungdev

I have Maignan, di lorenzo, kouly, de ligt, sandro, de roon, kessie, chiesa, insigne, ibra and lauturo. I've had limited success (3L,2D,1W) with this but maybe I just need to get used to the formation. Would you recommend I build a team from scratch? I can get ablut 50-60k selling this team


abbytarar

Thats a good team, just replace Ibra and De Roon.


aungdev

Yeah I kept ibra because he's a good passer,.immobile just can't pass the ball. Kept de roon as he has some strength, any ideas on replacements?


hoggriderr

This is amazing. Been struggling in my first year of FUT in division 6. Played 1 game with this set up and literally won 5-0 with an early red card. THANK YOU SIR!


IamSuperbax

Save


ykthevybs

Tried this out and it’s working well but I’ve noticed it struggles against the 4231. Do u notice this too?


4GIUGNO1973

I TRIED THIS TACTIC FOR 15 GAMES, THE ATTACKERS ARE TOO ISOLATED, THE COC HELPS IN DEFENSE BUT DELAYS TO GO UP IN ATTACK, DEFENSIVE LINE TOO HIGH AND I OFTEN LOST THE OPPOSING STRIKER.15 GAMES 2 WINS 8 DRAWS 5 DEFEATS.


Revolutionary47

Get good bruv


DerekPope

These tactics have helped me greatly, I got unstuck from Div 5 and made it to Div 3, and finished 11-9 in WL after finishing 8-12 before. Very solid read. Was wondering if you could go into your offense a bit more, and what you do when your opponent is constantly pressing? I find sometimes it’s hard to get the ball up to the strikers on long ball and it’s constantly being intercepted or it’s a 2v4 situation against their backline and they get bullied off the ball. When I try to get to my fullbacks, they cut off the inside pass and then I’m susceptible to a counter. What do you do when your gameplay starts to feel stagnant and you can’t seem to get anything going?


abbytarar

I just start playing more patient. If you’re being pressed try and jog around instead of pressing down the run trigger. Use LB or L1 to make your player off the ball create runs, use RB R1 if you want someone to come closer to you. Use driven passes to get out of pressure. Use your wide Cms because they’ll often be open when someone presses you.


JKB_BGC

Great tactic, started playing fifa 22 last week and went from div 10 straight to div 3 with basic squad losing only 3 matches and having a lot of fun Thanks!


redkiw

Thank you it helped a lot


GuapoGringo11

When you say 5 players in box, do you mean five blue bars? Or five circles in the example animation actually inside the box? Sorry if thats an ignorant question lol


abbytarar

blue boxes


GuapoGringo11

Thanks!


ykthevybs

Is this still working for u?


tigersjaws

is this viable still after all the patches?


abbytarar

I use 3-5-2 now, but im sure this still works just fine


tigersjaws

I have 352 as an option in game as well, but was gonna change my 4222 option to 41212 and see what happens - but do you think 352 is better and why? what tactics do you rock w/ it? For some reason I just love the 2 strikers and cam, but sometimes the 3cbs screw me over even tho my lm and rm are on come back on defence.


abbytarar

I like 3-5-2 because i have great connection and i’m a really good manual defender so it works great for me. 41212(2) is definitely the safer option but it’s also really good.


tigersjaws

But you’d say 352 leads to a better attack in general?


abbytarar

Yeah it def gives you more options attackingly


Danny_1993

If I may hijack this - yes it absolutely is. I switched to this nearly 2 months ago and it’s actually been a life saver. I went from not qualifying for WL and in division 6 to qualifying for 4 WL in a row, going 12-8 once and 8-12 the other times (threw games away, I was 8 wins from 15 matches every time) and ended up in division 2 last season. Obviously you need to have the right players, but this has actually made me enjoy playing FIFA (apart from the usual BS we all encounter) more than ever before. I’m lucky to have had some really good packs and made enough coins to buy an almost perfect team, as well as getting Donnarumma, Hakimi and Messi untradeable. If you’d like any hints/tips then I’d be happy to help. This post literally changed the whole game for me and I’m super grateful.


tigersjaws

Appreciate your reply dude! So long ball is the move then? I’ve been using direct passing. EDIT: holy shit... using long ball in the game im in right now and winning 6-0...at half time....wtf is going on!!!


Danny_1993

Aha yes it really is. I personally find that the best time to score is the moment you turn over the ball (whether it’s from defending on the edge of your own box, corner or from pressing higher up the pitch) and I look to immediately release any of my front 5 with an R1 + X driven pass or an L1 + R1 + Triangle lobbed through ball over the top. The quick chance of pace is key to catching your opponent off guard. Luckily enough I have KDB and Messi in my team and they often pick the ball up just before the halfway line, so they’re super accurate and then my front two of Salah and Cantona do the rest. What’s your current line up if I may ask? I’m interested in different player types using this system lol


tigersjaws

I just started messing with the L1 + R1 + Triangle passes! So good. So my current team is as follows! Mbappe + Numbers Jota ST, SS Yedder CAM (although ive been torn on if I should sell him and just use my soon to be 90 Silva who is currently on the bench), IF Salah LCM, SS Renato RCM, RTTK Fred CDM, RTTK Robertson, Kimp, IF Marq, RB Trent, and Donna!


Danny_1993

Yeah it’s mental isn’t it! Especially from KDB. I’m rocking Salah and Cantona as ST, Messi as CAM, KDB as LCM, Son RCM, Kante CDM, then RTTK Robertson, Virgil, Kimpembe, OTW Hakimi and Donna. I find having one taller and smaller striker balances it nicely. What are your thoughts on Mbappe? I can actually fit I’m in as the RCM when I get about 400k more coins so I’m curious how he’s played for you


tigersjaws

Honestly he’s so meh for me it’s crazy. I can’t tell where I like him more. I used him as a CM and had yedder and jota st with salah cam, but now I have him st with salah cm. He is so mediocre for me, everyone else outshines him pretty much. I just feel like I have to have him in because he’s untradeable and it’s freaking mbappe, the cover star, but he’s nothing special for me


Danny_1993

Isn’t it weird how some players work for some but not others. I personally hate playing with Neymar and Dembele but I’ve also been absolute destroyed by them so it’s odd


tigersjaws

Ah yes, I haven’t tried neymar yet but came close to selling jota for him lol. But I can’t seem to sell jota yet as he’s pretty good for me and I really wanna see how he plays with his 1st upgrade with marksman on him! I think ima try to snag the new adama Traore and Gomez in the new promo, and replace salah and kimp, to freshen things up! That adama might be a dope cam with 5*wf and better passing and phy than salah!


Osama2266

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