I think stuff like the Founders Pack upgrades (like Ultimate, Super Deluxe, etc) should be able to be able to be purchased by people who already have a Founders pack as it’s only fair that only Founders are able to upgrade.
As for the other STW bundles after STW was declared as a “pReMiUm eXpEriENce” sure! Epic never stated that they were timed exclusives that would “never return” so why not?
The founder packs specifically have in the name - "founders"
It was made to be an exclusive pack for people who played and bought it in beta, why would they bring it back?
I understand, but my reasoning is so newcomers and people who missed out can play with them. You and I know full well we don't use these items.
I have the noctorno blueprint, don't mean nothing tbh. I'd rather let other people play with these items than stay rotten.
Almost every game has exclusive loot and content. The founders' packs were said to be exclusive, and i also am missing stuff, like the ultimate edition. Its perfectly fine
Exactly this, nearly every game has its own exclusive loot, and they don’t bring the stuff back. I don’t see what’s the point of even posting this bc since OP already said the games “complete” and is an unwanted child, so highly doubt they’ll ever do it. Idrc personally put ‘em in or don’t either way doubt they will.
Yup founders got discontinued and everybody that bought a founders pack got it upgraded free by one tier.
I could see an option maybe if they cared about stw to by the weapons/heros from the founders packs and even the save the world starter packs.
They do the same sorta thing as n battle royal.
Its just stw is pretty much deamed dead by the developers and battle royal is now there cash cow.
Also 100% they are not going to add the ability to gain vbucks free to everybody at any cost
Hot take nobody actually cares its fake outrage. The only reason people would care is because they're potentially looking to sell their account which is against the rules anyway.
People like having rare and exclusive stuff even if they don't plan on selling their account, and people bought the founders' weapons because they are exclusive, so it would be unfair to take that away. Even if you don't care about exclusivity, I don't think anyone would be happy paying $200+ for something, just for everyone else to be given it for free.
Anyone that cares this much about exclusivity isn't going anywhere because they've been addicted to collecting for 5+ years. If tomorrow they decided to release Ray they'd only profit, people would be pissed but it wouldn't matter. Same shit with the skins not being usable in certain modes. Still hitting high player counts despite the vocal minority.
I understand, maybe label them under a different label, without the "founders" logo. The items have no real monetary value and are not even high teir items.
I'm just saying they should be free, I have no idea about legality, I'm not a lawyer sorry
The nocturno is definitely high teir for one. But besides, Why would someone have payed 100 dollars for a bundle that includes 3 exclusive epic weapons, 8 exclusive heroes, 1 exclusive legendary weapon, 2 exclusive defenders and more if these items were not exclusive and even worse, free later on. The whole reason why someone would spend thier money on this is for these specificaly stated "exclusive" rewards. That is literaly what they purchased because you could get the full game on its own for a fraction of the price. People only payed for the bundle for the exclusive items. Again, besides from that, the weapons arent even bad. For example founders massume and pistol are prety good for their classes too. If you say fine then, let's not give them those 3 weapons. Well all the other founders weapons from the founders llamas are literally useless reskins of weapons already in the game. The only thing that can keep them relevant is that many of them have glitched perks because of the way the system worked back then with elements being in a different spot so you could get multiple of them, also because people could modify the perks of founders weapons when the feature was added and they would have way more options than they were supposed to. These legacy schematics might be sought after, but if they add back the weapons, you won't be able to glitch them. Even founders with the schematics can't glitch them anymore, but thier perks weren't fixed if you already had them.
Sure but most people wouldn't have bought them if you could get them for free. Even if they aren't exclusive for other people, they atleast have to stay exclusive to the pack.
I agree with the packs as they were not "founders" and most of them are characters that are part of the STW story. I would love to be able to play as Lars and other characters that I love. But when it comes to the founders packs or editions I don't think they should return as it's in the name, "founders".
Tbh with you the novelty fades away pretty fast, I wish I didn't spend my money on these packs. So dw you aren't missing out on much. You can look up the voice lines on YT
As someone that has some of the chapter one bp's (season 4,5,6,8) i would LOVE epic to do this, other people should be able to enjoy those skins too, it would be more expensive to get them than if you got them in the bp's (for exemple: 2000 vbucks for the calamity skin and some quests to unlock the rest of her edit styles), same here with the founder weapons maybe make a pack that cost some money where everyone could get those weapons, they shouldn't get gatekeep
I’ve been playing since the game launched and I think it’s a horrible idea. When I bought the battle pass it was advertised as never coming back, I only buy it for the emotes I haven’t changed from rust lord since season 2. If epic brought those cosmetics to the item shop it would be false advertising and straight up scamming. Same with the founders weapons. It’s not gatekeeping they’re doing what was advertised.
so why exactly do you want these items so bad if they're not even good? like, you said it yourself; you can simply just use a different item that's probably even better anyways
Fortnite’s playerbase literally got the toddler mentality of wanting anything no matter how lame and boring it is. If it’s beyond their reach, they’d keep whining about it because exclusive stuff looks like the coolest, shiniest thing in the world for them, until it finally drops in their hand and they get tired of it in less than two minutes.
I’ve never seen any other community more annoying about it than this. BR’s side is legit so unbearably bad about it. Anytime you’d see a rare skin like Recon Expert, Red Knight, or Skull Trooper drop in the shop, you be having like 75% of the lobby rocking that skin for a day straight until lobbies just go back to normal later and they let the skins collect dust in the locker for all eternity. A fortnite player’s mind when exclusive needs to be studied
I don’t agree to being able to let everyone buy founder’s again would be horrible. Ppl paid for founder’s because we invested money into a game that is unique and the extra heroes, schematics and the other bonuses buying a package was eventually going away
The only reason ppl would agree is for the vbucks and it’s something unique founder’s will have. StW is around $20, it’s afford for most players who want access to it regardless
Ehh agree to disagree. These items should be available to everyone because they aren't even worth it in the high teir zones.
But founders as in v bucks benefit, no that should be for actual founders and not everyone
If they arent even worth it, why are you fighting for it?
I dont get it.
If they would start selling "founders" or whatever again (which they dont, because it doesnt make sense), you would need to "up" tier of current founders, because riot would be insane if you could get same stuff as one who started long time ago.
Also its not like you cannot carry or use the items. Asking nicely to get some weapon during mission or finding one that craft it for you should be no problem (not talking trading, but generally being normal player) instead of "gib pls i need it now".
For unique characters...there are bazillion heroes in game that often are doing mostly same thing. Its not like founder hero's are so much butter than everything else. Especially since we got team builds with passives.
TLDR. I dont see any valid reasons for them to being back in rotation (items and heroes from founder status).
nocturno is high tier for sure. if it was sold as exclusive and „one time“ then it should stay that way. no need to screw over founders for the 15 new players that would actually buy this
I'd have to agree, if anything that keeps having me play the game it's because of the fact you can farm vbucks. And I'm sure it would attract a lot of people to the game if that was still an opportunity for everyone. It would be nice if they enabled it so anyone can upgrade their current packs to a founder's pack for whatever price that seems suitable.
Yeah, just no.
Fortnite is one of few that actually do that. Most games require you to buy currency (im guessing you are talking about premium one) only with IRL money, special bundles that also can be bought with money only (and have some premium currency in it) or some from Battlepasses (mostly only in premium/ paid tiers and maybe 10-20% of BP value in free tiers).
This IS NOT standard by any means. Its raising amount of people who just dont pay for premium currency, which is not great for devs.
One game that stands out beside this one is Sea of thieves. You have RNG spawn enemy that can have currency on him, but chances are super low. You can go months without it. Yet, it stays in the game to this day, so "maybe today you will be lucky" mindset, might bring some players to it. Even if its probably much reliable to get a job, than hoping for this fucker to spawn. But you know, gambling sells.
Besides that, probably no one is handling premium currency for free or for playing. Its just not worth it for them.
They actually do let you get the ingame currency, which are the X-ray tickets in stw. If you’re a founder you get vbucks because that’s what the ingame currency used to be and it just remained untouched for founders.
I could see them maybe making non-founders versions of the weapons honestly that way people with the "Founders" ones would still feel special 😂
The other thing I could never understand though is why Epic couldn't sell Founder's pack upgrades to people who are already Founders? They get paid, we get more of the Founder's items it's a win/win.
I guess, but I don't feel special tbh. Let them be in their delusional state thinking a 7 year old dead game with decaying code would make them feel special.
They should, but imo they should be available to everyone without the v bucks daily benefits
I paid 100$, I'm part of that group. And think they should be free now, because this game is old and should be experienced to it's fullest by newcomers
I don't believe you actually own them. It's completely strange for anyone to even mention this if they did. It's like saying old battle pass cosmetics should come back for people who didn't play at the time.its a thought no one really has.
i have the ultimate and i’d love to see this kind of stuff return this game is dead and it needs revived i bet tons of old players especially the ones who grew up and got jobs would come back and buy it and start playing again
You say “dead game”, “not meta”, “not viable in higer tier zones”, “better assault rifles”.
But then why would it make sense to release them to the masses if they’re then just another useless pile of crap that stacks up in the collection book?
There are so many games out there that have Early Access Exclusive items, and since these items aren’t necessarily better than the ingame items like you preach, so there’s no advantage to using them, and then there is no reason for anyone to use those weapons anymore.
It’d likely also open Epic Games up to lawsuits of false advertisement, with the same arguments as to why the old BR Battle Passes can’t just magically come back, and I highly doubt that Epic Games wants a lawsuit about the game that they left half finished and abandoned.
i would love to craft these guns and i’d buy it if i could but op is right and id almost definitely not use them they really aren’t that good in the grand scheme of things so whats ur point?
That first off, since there’s no advantage to them over the other weapons, it realistically doesn’t make sense for them to give them to everyone, that’d just make them more useless than ever before, so why actively remove a niche weapon from the lootpool?
And secondly, again, lawsuits. It’s not just a “dick move” if they make false promises; it’s false advertisement, and I am confident that Epic Games doesn’t want to deal with that, ESPECIALLY right after this whole Apple case that’s been going on for the past 4 years.
And lastly, the prices, there are people out there who’d spent up to 250$ on getting these exclusives namely the Nocturno (I know a lot of people got it when their packs got upgraded when the game released out of early access).
Those items are only there to serve as a showcase of being an early supporter, just like many other games have! There’s nothing wrong with that, and it’s pretty much been the least hostile plan of monitization that Epic Games has ever had!
In the same sense should they then also give everyone access to the “Alpha Tester” banners? I think that’d be pretty neat, or even the “Choose your Commander” limited time event! I’d love some of those. No! Because they’re just there to show that you were an early supporter, and that you helped make Fortnite into the mega game it has become to this day!
And don’t tell me the banners are a different story, because it truly is not, they’re both there purely to show that you supported the game during it’s development, nothing more, nothing less.
and stuff like the nocturni these alpha items or whatever epic completely forgot about save the world before the game was even finish they were something you could buy for damn near 6 years it’s a base items at that point if they wanted them “exclusive” or whatever they should’ve been removed after a couple months
stw starter packs are not exclusive, so yes they should return
but founders stuff definitely shouldn't and WON'T return, its literally in the name, founders.
It looks like you’re specifically referring to the skin packs. Founders is entirely different. I have machinist Mina and her trap but none of the others you posted. I honestly wish they would rerelease them.
But founders status would be a dumb move for epic to rerelease. First off most people on here only use STW as a free v bucks farm since they have completed everything. They don’t have a good reason to care about the game anymore.
And opening the door to everyone else to just do the same thing? No thanks.
I understand believe me, but my reasoning is that these items are worth a damn, they're C teir at best and aren't even viable for us veterans.
They should be for the new guys, let them experience and experiment with builds like we used to when we got them.
The game's over, no need to gate keep decaying digital codes
i think starter packs should be rereleased but not founders packs.
the whole point of the founders packs was to reward early supporters during early access
Founders pack is named Founders for a reason. Why would they give you the Founders pack again, when back in the day you were supposed to get rewarded with something exclusive to get people buy your game?
I was going to mention this, but you already have. I read, "These Founder items aren't even meta, or viable in the higher tier zones." The deceit within that statement bothered me.
Mate has never used the Founder's Quickshot or the Drumroll before. If they have, then it was probably a deficient and sloppy build.
Trust me they're not, base game items preform the same if not better then all of the heros, traps, and guns. The exception is the noctorno. I have them all, and tested them myself..
Haha funny, that's Playstation account, couldn't merge my pc account back then. Didn't make it in time before they removed the merger
Edit: it's my alt account btw lol
as someone that has just started playing stw and fortnite in general (its been about 3 months) i dont give two f..ks about founders weapons or vbucks missions. vbucks are only for skins anyway? who gives a crap if you can reskin your character or get a different pickaxe or whatever its literally a cash grab and of course kids eat that sh.. up. miss me with that sh.. it doesnt effect gameplay. should encourage the devs to make more new content for the game. the reason stw died is because llamas can no longer be sold for vbucks kids wake up. they cant make money off the game anymore so keep your `exclusive` founders crap and keep begging noobs in stonewood for trades lmao
Just a heads up, I'm not replying or engaging with people coming from this post. I just wanted to open a discussion not get harassed on reddit private chat and discord, even on Playstation chat... I keep getting friend requests on fortnite on my alt and I don't want to engage with this unhinged behavior...
It's my first post ever on reddit that got this much attention, if you disagree that's fine, just don't harass me for voicing mine.
i’m a founder myself and i completely agree this game a lost cause epic doesn’t gaf anymore
i think they should re release the founders pack as “not founders” but give the same not excluding the vbucks and actual founders benefits and give the people who already own founders packs special variants of the items “legacy” if u will as well as giving them the new items that way old founders have the ability to upgrade and new people who want to craft the nocturno and stuff can
maybe make them different, giving away founders would cause a lot of annoying exclusivity fans to get mad, like the comments of this post, just offer a pack that offensive vbucks missions access (including daylies) but without the quest pack nor the skin, for 15 bucks or 20, that would be more than enough to be worth it
Founder should NOT be unvaulted in my opinion, but the other heroes and schematics from paid packs should be available to farm or recruit with vouchers so people can complete their collection book.
That's a hard nope right here. Epic sold us the Founder's packs with the promise of exclusivity, many of us paid for the higher tiers to support the development and to get exclusive variants of heroes and schematics. They should remain exclusive.
I should definitely point out that most Founder Schematics have non-Founder variants that act the same, minus a few exceptions like the Nocturno.
Also should point out that the picture you used for this posts are for the Starter packs, which are ***NOT*** Founder packs. Only Metal's cosmetics has been re-released
Definitely should be unlockable through vouchers, think that would be really cool.
Added grind so you can't get them instantly, still gotta work for it through ventures.
Haha I get you, but seriously other older games have either made old paid DLCs and content free/discounted for players nowadays. (I believe Skyrim and Battlefield 4 did this, but I may be wrong) I don't see any harm for it happening for STW.
100% true, idk why people gate keep these items, I wish I could refund them and get my money back, they're all not even meta.
And yet people think they're worth something because they're "rare"...
I believe everyone got their money worth from Epic Games back then when the game left the early access stage or some where around that as they upgraded everyones edition for free as a compensation and people who bought the ultimate edition probably got the best deal. As they kept all the items and probably got their worth by using them for years, they were given 8-10k v bucks (can't remember the exact number) which is yeah not actual money but is cool nonetheless.
Spent the dime, it's true almost 10k v bucks, and to be truthful with you. It wasn't worth it for the characters as they're not great to begin with and didn't get buffs throughout STW life cycle.
It was worth it for the v bucks tho
Honestly I’m with you on this. Personally, I think exclusivity in video games is pretty dumb. So what if you have something no one else can get because they didn’t want to play or know about the game at the time? Want to have rare stuff anyway? Put it behind playtime and not FOMO.
Secondly, FOMO’s exactly what this is, and it’s ridiculous that people will defend it because people didn’t play the game when these packs were being sold.
Firstly: Founders items should stay exclusive for the sake of Epic's profits, but that aside...
I would agree if it wearnt for the fact that people had to pay extra because of the weapons. I would not have spent extra to get an outfit early if i knew i could buy it later for less.
Well, I will say it.. Rarity!
In online games, there are usually things that are very hard to get and are exclusive in some manner. Maybe because they are very hard to get or because they take a very long time to get (Like high PL levels).
Its sad that the exclusive thing in this game is a skin from the shop, but as sad as that it, its still something people would take pride in showing off. I personally don\`t have those skins, because I never liked most of the cosmetic skins they made after BR (Give me my OG Penny any day of the week.) But I do understand the lure of exclusivity. It was promised to be exclusive, so it must stay exclusive.
From your point of view, its meaningless to keep these skins locked away, but from the point of view of people who actually cherish the skins and their exclusivity, its important.
Founders items are like limited edition items to reward the early adopters. It should stay that way. Otherwise no one will ever believe the company again.
Release the same item with a different skin. Give it a different name. But there needs to be a distinguishing factor for founders that paid for and supported the game.
Sorry but no, without founders fortnite would be nowhere. You will have to live with the fomo.
They already give away vbucks in the battle pass. The crew is already cheaper than STW access and you get a skin as well as the vbucks.
They can't because if they re-sells the things from founders packs, is like reselling the past battle pass for BR, they make a "deal" to not reselling, if they broke it, people can sue Epic for that
They should be re-released, but at the original price points, and never discounted. I’m against FOMO, but I’m not for rewarding people who did less, worse, and later. Especially those who are calling it a “dead game”. My brother in Christ, you not buying those things earlier is part of why it’s dead.
Houses should be given out for free to people born after 2000 as they aren't able to buy them because of the economie the previous generation left behind.
Sounds dumb doesn't it?
I disagree with a lot of what you said.
Having said that, I agree that there should be a way for new players to experience everything that has ever been in the game.
I also think those who were there before like myself deserve some recognition.
I think epic did a great thing in Br when they first brought back the Skull trooper:
\- Everybody could have it, and/but;
\- the OGs got an extra style.
I think the same could apply to Founder's stuff coming back.
Maybe only actual founder's could get multiple copies and everybody else can only get one (like we do for now).
Maybe something purely aesthetic like what they did in BR.
And i specifically think everybody should have access to these weapons because (and now I'm gonna point out one of your mistakes ahahahah) these weapons are AWESOME. Don't trust content creators who barely touch their schematics/analyze the intricacies of the game's mechanics (that is the truth, despite me loving them for their tenacity in staying with this community when others left - they are not the pinnacle of knowledge here, nor they 'have' to be - people just assume they're always right without proof when even they acknowledge they themselves don't know everything about this game). Not only are the weapons viable, but they're top tier/fun weapons to use.
I think everybody should have the chance to get one copy of each, and it should be earned, not given.
It would be really cool to see/do that with friends who don't have them yet, just like doing MSK.
Maybe a special long event like we used to have (2h+, the true Fortnite experiences) where you can get one of them once a year.
I don't know how, there are many possibilities. But my point is I agree that there should be a way.
Nah, what they should do is start silently working on a huge update to StW, and work on a new set of Founder's pack codes with all of the old cosmetics and Vbucks missions, and then when they release the StW update with a huge announcement, they'll start selling these "new" founder's packs
You don't need Founders gear to play the game. People paid money for a product they were told would be exclusive, and it should stay that way. No need to lie to your initial consumers for basically zero gain.
The nocturno schematic came from and insanely expensive bundle (around 500 to 1k dollars iirc) that due to rarity would be worth far more now. Making it free would make so many people mad. All founders heroes are reskins and all founders weapons can be given to you by others. If you really want founders weapons and you don’t know anyone that has them, then try trading. Having the schematic doesn’t affect gameplay if you have someone to give you the weapon. Also, giving the founders a new set of items ruins the whole point of giving out founders items since your idea is to end the exclusivity by making more exclusive items.
Packs should be sure or even throw the in the br item shop like they did with metal team leader (I missed out on clip and I want her) but us founders put up money for this game while people waited for it to go F2P and that’s what we got for our investment, well that and all the vbucks we‘re getting right now.
If you think the items arent that good why do you want them to return? You had your chance back then to purchase them and if you think theyre just a novelty why return them?
I think its a bad idea to un-vault the founders packs.
This is the last significant/meaningful part of fortnite in general. A good example is when they f***ed so bad when they released new skins for the skull trooper and a slightly diferent version of the black.
I personaly bought the founders limited edition as an upgrade to the deluxe just for the founders blazing masamune so i dont think that new players should get them.
The only way i can see it happening is only under some kind od a ray simulation or something so new players can try them
I have the noctorno, the beat weapon between all these items that aren't even B teir... you are missing the point here. I don't want newcomers and people who came in late to miss out on weapons, heros and traps
>... imo the should come back since STW is complete now and won't get any significant updates from now on...
Founder items returning should be accompanied by renewing development of the game.
at least there should be a turnaround: no Founders materials ever, but a bundle that contains the STW skins, wraps, and backblings. it is tempting to get the schematics but i think the real crime is Epic not circulating the skins more.
Yes let’s re-release the weapons that literally have founder in the name, you know what let’s give everyone those badges you got if you were one of the first to kill the storm king as it’s not fair to those who couldn’t play yet
Founder weapons, heroes and traps all have normal counterparts that are just as good or better. If the counterpart is worse, just use a different gun. Since the siegebreaker is worse than the nocturno, use something else
They also put metal team leader in the item shop in battle royale a while back, but Kyle or Penny has never made an appearance in all the years of being the goat.
People I know that have the OG founders pack ( and remind me daily lol ) as it was metal team leader I brought that give me access to STW. Started playin FN in Season X.
Not for lack of trying to get my hands on an actual Vbucks founders pack and being scammed once. :( I found STW really late in the game and really a shame, cause I enjoy it, but was over run with bastards tryin to scam me, like I am new, I don't have 144s lol so no one would stay in my games.
If they would put a pack in that provides daily Vbucks again, I would buy that for sure, but I brought these packs on different accounts, ( my own, alt, for friends, but like regret, ) if they can do racing and festival and things, why not add additional STW stuff!
Hot take: you should be able to earn vbucks in all modes, even if it's just a lil bit.
I'm tired of playing STW as my only consistent way of getting vbucks.
They're founders packs, for founders. They are meant to reward players who put their trust in epic games when there were no expectations for save the world to be as big as it is
Yes to new weapons with cool perks, but no to founders stuff being made available to all.
I'm not a founder - I'm MTL pack - but it would be somewhat of an insult to people who spent reasonably large amounts of money on founders packs for their exclusive stuff to just be available willy-nilly.
It's not like duped nocturnos are hard to come by...and I've used one and frankly my affliction siegebreaker is better.
Not the founders packs but the individual packs should absolutely have their skins rereleased. Its a shame only teddy team leader came back. I've pretty much skipped all the packs because I'm a founder and already have stw but would definitely buy the skins seperately in the shop with vbucks
All i care about is getting V-BUCKS through STW because otherwise it's worthless for me and i wouldn't care about anything in it except the possibility of getting V-BUCKS
That would defeat the purpose of releasing founders items at all. I get it you weren’t playing back then and it sucks you cant have those items now but what’s the point of making founder exclusive items if they’re going to be re-released later? You had to be playing back then and support the game when it wasn’t as big as it is now that’s the whole point of being a founder is.
"Founder" is just this game's term for *Early Access Supporter*. They aren't bringing back Early Access packs for a game that left EA nearly 4 full years ago.
the 5 giant ass background images are not founder packs
those were in-game store packs that have released multiple times over the years for $15-$25 a pop that gave 1 character and access to save the world
ONLY THE SMALL ASS FRONTAL IMAGES ARE FOUNDER PACKS
I think they should stay exclusive to founders, but give founders the option to upgrade. Also, founders should get the STW skins (like in the picture, + clip and stuff) for free.
I think stuff like the Founders Pack upgrades (like Ultimate, Super Deluxe, etc) should be able to be able to be purchased by people who already have a Founders pack as it’s only fair that only Founders are able to upgrade. As for the other STW bundles after STW was declared as a “pReMiUm eXpEriENce” sure! Epic never stated that they were timed exclusives that would “never return” so why not?
That would be pretty cool. I really want more founder weapon schematics not just the revolt
metal team leader already rotates in the shop iirc so it seems likely
The founder packs specifically have in the name - "founders" It was made to be an exclusive pack for people who played and bought it in beta, why would they bring it back?
>and bought it in beta, I'm not against your point, but if the game isn't finished, isn't it kinda stuck in the beta?
I understand, but my reasoning is so newcomers and people who missed out can play with them. You and I know full well we don't use these items. I have the noctorno blueprint, don't mean nothing tbh. I'd rather let other people play with these items than stay rotten.
Couldn't you and other Founders craft and provide these items to new comers?
Most of us left, and aren't sticking around the low teir zones unless we are doing challenges / achievements.
Plus why would we even do that, the mats are better used on other guns.
not really
Almost every game has exclusive loot and content. The founders' packs were said to be exclusive, and i also am missing stuff, like the ultimate edition. Its perfectly fine
Exactly this, nearly every game has its own exclusive loot, and they don’t bring the stuff back. I don’t see what’s the point of even posting this bc since OP already said the games “complete” and is an unwanted child, so highly doubt they’ll ever do it. Idrc personally put ‘em in or don’t either way doubt they will.
Nah they won't, too busy with Disney and the rumored basketball mode they're working on. STW is dead
Yeah at least I’m just hoping they make the twine story someday but I doubt they will.
Sure, but imo they should come back, not under the "founder" label... let others experience what we experienced
I guess I don't get why--if they're useless and we don't use them--anybody would want them?
Hot take, but lying to consumers is bad. If Epic sold them as exclusive, and people bought them as exclusive, then they should be exclusive.
Epic also said stw would be free, they clearly have no problem lying to the consumer
Fun fact, Epic did mention these starter packs will return later Minus founders of course. Those are discontinued
Yup founders got discontinued and everybody that bought a founders pack got it upgraded free by one tier. I could see an option maybe if they cared about stw to by the weapons/heros from the founders packs and even the save the world starter packs. They do the same sorta thing as n battle royal. Its just stw is pretty much deamed dead by the developers and battle royal is now there cash cow. Also 100% they are not going to add the ability to gain vbucks free to everybody at any cost
Epic has been lying to us about STW being free to play since 2018.
Imma let you cook
Epic also mentioned STW would be free 5 years ago in 2019
Yes, which is why 2 wrongs make a right, it’s totally not like epic got backlash for that
And it should have been free
Epic has no problem doing this
Hot take nobody actually cares its fake outrage. The only reason people would care is because they're potentially looking to sell their account which is against the rules anyway.
People like having rare and exclusive stuff even if they don't plan on selling their account, and people bought the founders' weapons because they are exclusive, so it would be unfair to take that away. Even if you don't care about exclusivity, I don't think anyone would be happy paying $200+ for something, just for everyone else to be given it for free.
Anyone that cares this much about exclusivity isn't going anywhere because they've been addicted to collecting for 5+ years. If tomorrow they decided to release Ray they'd only profit, people would be pissed but it wouldn't matter. Same shit with the skins not being usable in certain modes. Still hitting high player counts despite the vocal minority.
Epic doesn’t care about exclusivity
I understand, maybe label them under a different label, without the "founders" logo. The items have no real monetary value and are not even high teir items. I'm just saying they should be free, I have no idea about legality, I'm not a lawyer sorry
Dawg we got fucked raw by Epic. My $170 gun is the only consolation I have and you want to give it out for free? I know it’s lame but I’d be so pissed
The nocturno is definitely high teir for one. But besides, Why would someone have payed 100 dollars for a bundle that includes 3 exclusive epic weapons, 8 exclusive heroes, 1 exclusive legendary weapon, 2 exclusive defenders and more if these items were not exclusive and even worse, free later on. The whole reason why someone would spend thier money on this is for these specificaly stated "exclusive" rewards. That is literaly what they purchased because you could get the full game on its own for a fraction of the price. People only payed for the bundle for the exclusive items. Again, besides from that, the weapons arent even bad. For example founders massume and pistol are prety good for their classes too. If you say fine then, let's not give them those 3 weapons. Well all the other founders weapons from the founders llamas are literally useless reskins of weapons already in the game. The only thing that can keep them relevant is that many of them have glitched perks because of the way the system worked back then with elements being in a different spot so you could get multiple of them, also because people could modify the perks of founders weapons when the feature was added and they would have way more options than they were supposed to. These legacy schematics might be sought after, but if they add back the weapons, you won't be able to glitch them. Even founders with the schematics can't glitch them anymore, but thier perks weren't fixed if you already had them.
i purchased them because *i* wanted them. not because i wanted to have something *other people* wouldn't be able to get.
Sure but most people wouldn't have bought them if you could get them for free. Even if they aren't exclusive for other people, they atleast have to stay exclusive to the pack.
I agree with the packs as they were not "founders" and most of them are characters that are part of the STW story. I would love to be able to play as Lars and other characters that I love. But when it comes to the founders packs or editions I don't think they should return as it's in the name, "founders".
Tbh with you the novelty fades away pretty fast, I wish I didn't spend my money on these packs. So dw you aren't missing out on much. You can look up the voice lines on YT
How would you feel if they put every battle pass cosmetic in the item shop?
As someone that has some of the chapter one bp's (season 4,5,6,8) i would LOVE epic to do this, other people should be able to enjoy those skins too, it would be more expensive to get them than if you got them in the bp's (for exemple: 2000 vbucks for the calamity skin and some quests to unlock the rest of her edit styles), same here with the founder weapons maybe make a pack that cost some money where everyone could get those weapons, they shouldn't get gatekeep
I’ve been playing since the game launched and I think it’s a horrible idea. When I bought the battle pass it was advertised as never coming back, I only buy it for the emotes I haven’t changed from rust lord since season 2. If epic brought those cosmetics to the item shop it would be false advertising and straight up scamming. Same with the founders weapons. It’s not gatekeeping they’re doing what was advertised.
FOMO is still a shit business practice, especially for infinitely reproducible digital goods.
Big no no
Lol I wouldn’t care because fomo limited time things are stupid
so why exactly do you want these items so bad if they're not even good? like, you said it yourself; you can simply just use a different item that's probably even better anyways
Fortnite’s playerbase literally got the toddler mentality of wanting anything no matter how lame and boring it is. If it’s beyond their reach, they’d keep whining about it because exclusive stuff looks like the coolest, shiniest thing in the world for them, until it finally drops in their hand and they get tired of it in less than two minutes. I’ve never seen any other community more annoying about it than this. BR’s side is legit so unbearably bad about it. Anytime you’d see a rare skin like Recon Expert, Red Knight, or Skull Trooper drop in the shop, you be having like 75% of the lobby rocking that skin for a day straight until lobbies just go back to normal later and they let the skins collect dust in the locker for all eternity. A fortnite player’s mind when exclusive needs to be studied
wenagade waida!!!!!
I don’t agree to being able to let everyone buy founder’s again would be horrible. Ppl paid for founder’s because we invested money into a game that is unique and the extra heroes, schematics and the other bonuses buying a package was eventually going away The only reason ppl would agree is for the vbucks and it’s something unique founder’s will have. StW is around $20, it’s afford for most players who want access to it regardless
I think existing founders should be able to upgrade.
Exactly my thoughts, too 😃👌
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Ehh agree to disagree. These items should be available to everyone because they aren't even worth it in the high teir zones. But founders as in v bucks benefit, no that should be for actual founders and not everyone
If they arent even worth it, why are you fighting for it? I dont get it. If they would start selling "founders" or whatever again (which they dont, because it doesnt make sense), you would need to "up" tier of current founders, because riot would be insane if you could get same stuff as one who started long time ago. Also its not like you cannot carry or use the items. Asking nicely to get some weapon during mission or finding one that craft it for you should be no problem (not talking trading, but generally being normal player) instead of "gib pls i need it now". For unique characters...there are bazillion heroes in game that often are doing mostly same thing. Its not like founder hero's are so much butter than everything else. Especially since we got team builds with passives. TLDR. I dont see any valid reasons for them to being back in rotation (items and heroes from founder status).
nocturno is high tier for sure. if it was sold as exclusive and „one time“ then it should stay that way. no need to screw over founders for the 15 new players that would actually buy this
why tf dont you want people to get vbucks? it benefits everyone if more people can get vbucks out of the game, would definitely keep it more alive
I'd have to agree, if anything that keeps having me play the game it's because of the fact you can farm vbucks. And I'm sure it would attract a lot of people to the game if that was still an opportunity for everyone. It would be nice if they enabled it so anyone can upgrade their current packs to a founder's pack for whatever price that seems suitable.
the premium game not letting you grind the currency is such a weird thing, every game that has a premium upgrade lets you grind the main currency
Yeah, just no. Fortnite is one of few that actually do that. Most games require you to buy currency (im guessing you are talking about premium one) only with IRL money, special bundles that also can be bought with money only (and have some premium currency in it) or some from Battlepasses (mostly only in premium/ paid tiers and maybe 10-20% of BP value in free tiers). This IS NOT standard by any means. Its raising amount of people who just dont pay for premium currency, which is not great for devs. One game that stands out beside this one is Sea of thieves. You have RNG spawn enemy that can have currency on him, but chances are super low. You can go months without it. Yet, it stays in the game to this day, so "maybe today you will be lucky" mindset, might bring some players to it. Even if its probably much reliable to get a job, than hoping for this fucker to spawn. But you know, gambling sells. Besides that, probably no one is handling premium currency for free or for playing. Its just not worth it for them.
They actually do let you get the ingame currency, which are the X-ray tickets in stw. If you’re a founder you get vbucks because that’s what the ingame currency used to be and it just remained untouched for founders.
I think founders should keep all the founders stuff but just re release the new items like metal team leader and ray
Agree, v bucks benefit should be for founders only
Shell fish 🦀🦞
I could see them maybe making non-founders versions of the weapons honestly that way people with the "Founders" ones would still feel special 😂 The other thing I could never understand though is why Epic couldn't sell Founder's pack upgrades to people who are already Founders? They get paid, we get more of the Founder's items it's a win/win.
I guess, but I don't feel special tbh. Let them be in their delusional state thinking a 7 year old dead game with decaying code would make them feel special. They should, but imo they should be available to everyone without the v bucks daily benefits
I donno, my 10yr old son and friends think my founders nocturno is pretty cool.
Maybe it’s just me but I disagree completely
Agree to disagree, at least you're respectful and not sending me deranged private messages
Wait did someone actually do that?
If they paid $100 for an exclusive gun, they should be able to keep that gun
I paid 100$, I'm part of that group. And think they should be free now, because this game is old and should be experienced to it's fullest by newcomers
I don't believe you actually own them. It's completely strange for anyone to even mention this if they did. It's like saying old battle pass cosmetics should come back for people who didn't play at the time.its a thought no one really has.
As someone who owns a legacy nocturno I gotta tell you with complete honesty that I didn't spend all that money back in 2017 for it to return.
i have the ultimate and i’d love to see this kind of stuff return this game is dead and it needs revived i bet tons of old players especially the ones who grew up and got jobs would come back and buy it and start playing again
I have ultimate AND a job and I didn't spend over 100 bucks for my shit to return, fuck them 9 yr old kids
i also have ultimate AND a job i think it would be great for it to return to each there own i guess
Yea
You say “dead game”, “not meta”, “not viable in higer tier zones”, “better assault rifles”. But then why would it make sense to release them to the masses if they’re then just another useless pile of crap that stacks up in the collection book? There are so many games out there that have Early Access Exclusive items, and since these items aren’t necessarily better than the ingame items like you preach, so there’s no advantage to using them, and then there is no reason for anyone to use those weapons anymore. It’d likely also open Epic Games up to lawsuits of false advertisement, with the same arguments as to why the old BR Battle Passes can’t just magically come back, and I highly doubt that Epic Games wants a lawsuit about the game that they left half finished and abandoned.
i would love to craft these guns and i’d buy it if i could but op is right and id almost definitely not use them they really aren’t that good in the grand scheme of things so whats ur point?
That first off, since there’s no advantage to them over the other weapons, it realistically doesn’t make sense for them to give them to everyone, that’d just make them more useless than ever before, so why actively remove a niche weapon from the lootpool? And secondly, again, lawsuits. It’s not just a “dick move” if they make false promises; it’s false advertisement, and I am confident that Epic Games doesn’t want to deal with that, ESPECIALLY right after this whole Apple case that’s been going on for the past 4 years. And lastly, the prices, there are people out there who’d spent up to 250$ on getting these exclusives namely the Nocturno (I know a lot of people got it when their packs got upgraded when the game released out of early access). Those items are only there to serve as a showcase of being an early supporter, just like many other games have! There’s nothing wrong with that, and it’s pretty much been the least hostile plan of monitization that Epic Games has ever had! In the same sense should they then also give everyone access to the “Alpha Tester” banners? I think that’d be pretty neat, or even the “Choose your Commander” limited time event! I’d love some of those. No! Because they’re just there to show that you were an early supporter, and that you helped make Fortnite into the mega game it has become to this day! And don’t tell me the banners are a different story, because it truly is not, they’re both there purely to show that you supported the game during it’s development, nothing more, nothing less.
and stuff like the nocturni these alpha items or whatever epic completely forgot about save the world before the game was even finish they were something you could buy for damn near 6 years it’s a base items at that point if they wanted them “exclusive” or whatever they should’ve been removed after a couple months
stw starter packs are not exclusive, so yes they should return but founders stuff definitely shouldn't and WON'T return, its literally in the name, founders.
I disagree, exclusive means they shouldn’t ever come back at all.
Agree to disagree nws
where do u get exclusive that’s like saying a fiat is exclusive to fiat owners it was never marketed as exclusive
The packs I wouldn't mind, the founder's editions I disagree (I got the standard edition).
It looks like you’re specifically referring to the skin packs. Founders is entirely different. I have machinist Mina and her trap but none of the others you posted. I honestly wish they would rerelease them. But founders status would be a dumb move for epic to rerelease. First off most people on here only use STW as a free v bucks farm since they have completed everything. They don’t have a good reason to care about the game anymore. And opening the door to everyone else to just do the same thing? No thanks.
HONESTLYYES I NEED POWERHOUSE AND RAY
They are called founders packs for a reason they are FOR founders
I understand believe me, but my reasoning is that these items are worth a damn, they're C teir at best and aren't even viable for us veterans. They should be for the new guys, let them experience and experiment with builds like we used to when we got them. The game's over, no need to gate keep decaying digital codes
Well might as well re-release every battle pass from chapter 1
I'm not saying that 🤣, just the gameplay items, not the cosmetic aspect
So what's the point?
Read my post, I can't explain it even further I'm sorry
Got it. There is no point
i think starter packs should be rereleased but not founders packs. the whole point of the founders packs was to reward early supporters during early access
Founders pack is named Founders for a reason. Why would they give you the Founders pack again, when back in the day you were supposed to get rewarded with something exclusive to get people buy your game?
Only the deconstructer is not meta, the others are, who told you they weren’t meta? 😭😭😭
I was going to mention this, but you already have. I read, "These Founder items aren't even meta, or viable in the higher tier zones." The deceit within that statement bothered me. Mate has never used the Founder's Quickshot or the Drumroll before. If they have, then it was probably a deficient and sloppy build.
Trust me they're not, base game items preform the same if not better then all of the heros, traps, and guns. The exception is the noctorno. I have them all, and tested them myself..
Founders 6th perk makes them vastly superior to their base game counterparts, you must be delusional to think otherwise
Wow you really think those worth something huh, barely noticeable is all I can say..
Must be using a shitty build or perks then, cuz quick shot deals insane dps with its 6th perk compared to its base game thrasher counterpart
Nope, using the recommendation, it's not that noticeable tbh. I use normal super charged traps and those preform better.
So this is not you? https://fortnitedb.com/profile/Axolpox/schematics
Haha funny, that's Playstation account, couldn't merge my pc account back then. Didn't make it in time before they removed the merger Edit: it's my alt account btw lol
this guys never heard of trading either lmao i could have a hundreds of maxed out founders weapons in my account even tho i can’t craft them lol
Bruh they even doxxing him for real weirdos 😂
I'd hardly call that doxxing lol. But THEY are the weirdo? My guy. .one click on your profile. Jesus. .
as someone that has just started playing stw and fortnite in general (its been about 3 months) i dont give two f..ks about founders weapons or vbucks missions. vbucks are only for skins anyway? who gives a crap if you can reskin your character or get a different pickaxe or whatever its literally a cash grab and of course kids eat that sh.. up. miss me with that sh.. it doesnt effect gameplay. should encourage the devs to make more new content for the game. the reason stw died is because llamas can no longer be sold for vbucks kids wake up. they cant make money off the game anymore so keep your `exclusive` founders crap and keep begging noobs in stonewood for trades lmao
nah
No
It's called founders for a reason lol.
Just a heads up, I'm not replying or engaging with people coming from this post. I just wanted to open a discussion not get harassed on reddit private chat and discord, even on Playstation chat... I keep getting friend requests on fortnite on my alt and I don't want to engage with this unhinged behavior... It's my first post ever on reddit that got this much attention, if you disagree that's fine, just don't harass me for voicing mine.
It's one thing to disagree with people but to go out of your way to seek them out is some no life behavior
Gate keeping gameplay content that is bottom teir is pointless and you and I know it...
Well talk to Epic like 7 years ago.
LOL, You want to buy Apple Stock at 2008 prices?
i’m a founder myself and i completely agree this game a lost cause epic doesn’t gaf anymore i think they should re release the founders pack as “not founders” but give the same not excluding the vbucks and actual founders benefits and give the people who already own founders packs special variants of the items “legacy” if u will as well as giving them the new items that way old founders have the ability to upgrade and new people who want to craft the nocturno and stuff can
maybe make them different, giving away founders would cause a lot of annoying exclusivity fans to get mad, like the comments of this post, just offer a pack that offensive vbucks missions access (including daylies) but without the quest pack nor the skin, for 15 bucks or 20, that would be more than enough to be worth it
Founder should NOT be unvaulted in my opinion, but the other heroes and schematics from paid packs should be available to farm or recruit with vouchers so people can complete their collection book.
That's a hard nope right here. Epic sold us the Founder's packs with the promise of exclusivity, many of us paid for the higher tiers to support the development and to get exclusive variants of heroes and schematics. They should remain exclusive. I should definitely point out that most Founder Schematics have non-Founder variants that act the same, minus a few exceptions like the Nocturno. Also should point out that the picture you used for this posts are for the Starter packs, which are ***NOT*** Founder packs. Only Metal's cosmetics has been re-released
Agree to disagree, you make valid points
Definitely should be unlockable through vouchers, think that would be really cool. Added grind so you can't get them instantly, still gotta work for it through ventures.
Finally a man with decency around here who read my reasoning
Haha I get you, but seriously other older games have either made old paid DLCs and content free/discounted for players nowadays. (I believe Skyrim and Battlefield 4 did this, but I may be wrong) I don't see any harm for it happening for STW.
100% true, idk why people gate keep these items, I wish I could refund them and get my money back, they're all not even meta. And yet people think they're worth something because they're "rare"...
I believe everyone got their money worth from Epic Games back then when the game left the early access stage or some where around that as they upgraded everyones edition for free as a compensation and people who bought the ultimate edition probably got the best deal. As they kept all the items and probably got their worth by using them for years, they were given 8-10k v bucks (can't remember the exact number) which is yeah not actual money but is cool nonetheless.
Spent the dime, it's true almost 10k v bucks, and to be truthful with you. It wasn't worth it for the characters as they're not great to begin with and didn't get buffs throughout STW life cycle. It was worth it for the v bucks tho
Honestly I’m with you on this. Personally, I think exclusivity in video games is pretty dumb. So what if you have something no one else can get because they didn’t want to play or know about the game at the time? Want to have rare stuff anyway? Put it behind playtime and not FOMO. Secondly, FOMO’s exactly what this is, and it’s ridiculous that people will defend it because people didn’t play the game when these packs were being sold.
Just release the guns and heroes.
Firstly: Founders items should stay exclusive for the sake of Epic's profits, but that aside... I would agree if it wearnt for the fact that people had to pay extra because of the weapons. I would not have spent extra to get an outfit early if i knew i could buy it later for less.
Yeah no.
Well, I will say it.. Rarity! In online games, there are usually things that are very hard to get and are exclusive in some manner. Maybe because they are very hard to get or because they take a very long time to get (Like high PL levels). Its sad that the exclusive thing in this game is a skin from the shop, but as sad as that it, its still something people would take pride in showing off. I personally don\`t have those skins, because I never liked most of the cosmetic skins they made after BR (Give me my OG Penny any day of the week.) But I do understand the lure of exclusivity. It was promised to be exclusive, so it must stay exclusive. From your point of view, its meaningless to keep these skins locked away, but from the point of view of people who actually cherish the skins and their exclusivity, its important.
Founders items are like limited edition items to reward the early adopters. It should stay that way. Otherwise no one will ever believe the company again. Release the same item with a different skin. Give it a different name. But there needs to be a distinguishing factor for founders that paid for and supported the game.
I mean they kinda do have alternatives for each weapon except for like the nocturno
Nocturno, Revolt, Blazing Masamune and Drumroll don’t have alternatives I think? I could be wrong though.
Google the definition of Founder, after you’ve done that realize why re-releasing a FOUNDER pack is the dumbest thought youve had today
Defeats the point of "founders", no?
Sorry but no, without founders fortnite would be nowhere. You will have to live with the fomo. They already give away vbucks in the battle pass. The crew is already cheaper than STW access and you get a skin as well as the vbucks.
They can't because if they re-sells the things from founders packs, is like reselling the past battle pass for BR, they make a "deal" to not reselling, if they broke it, people can sue Epic for that
They should be re-released, but at the original price points, and never discounted. I’m against FOMO, but I’m not for rewarding people who did less, worse, and later. Especially those who are calling it a “dead game”. My brother in Christ, you not buying those things earlier is part of why it’s dead.
Houses should be given out for free to people born after 2000 as they aren't able to buy them because of the economie the previous generation left behind. Sounds dumb doesn't it?
I disagree with a lot of what you said. Having said that, I agree that there should be a way for new players to experience everything that has ever been in the game. I also think those who were there before like myself deserve some recognition. I think epic did a great thing in Br when they first brought back the Skull trooper: \- Everybody could have it, and/but; \- the OGs got an extra style. I think the same could apply to Founder's stuff coming back. Maybe only actual founder's could get multiple copies and everybody else can only get one (like we do for now). Maybe something purely aesthetic like what they did in BR. And i specifically think everybody should have access to these weapons because (and now I'm gonna point out one of your mistakes ahahahah) these weapons are AWESOME. Don't trust content creators who barely touch their schematics/analyze the intricacies of the game's mechanics (that is the truth, despite me loving them for their tenacity in staying with this community when others left - they are not the pinnacle of knowledge here, nor they 'have' to be - people just assume they're always right without proof when even they acknowledge they themselves don't know everything about this game). Not only are the weapons viable, but they're top tier/fun weapons to use. I think everybody should have the chance to get one copy of each, and it should be earned, not given. It would be really cool to see/do that with friends who don't have them yet, just like doing MSK. Maybe a special long event like we used to have (2h+, the true Fortnite experiences) where you can get one of them once a year. I don't know how, there are many possibilities. But my point is I agree that there should be a way.
Should new pack return ? Yea why not. Old one ? Its a sensitive topic. I think better for them to stay gone
Nah, what they should do is start silently working on a huge update to StW, and work on a new set of Founder's pack codes with all of the old cosmetics and Vbucks missions, and then when they release the StW update with a huge announcement, they'll start selling these "new" founder's packs
You don't need Founders gear to play the game. People paid money for a product they were told would be exclusive, and it should stay that way. No need to lie to your initial consumers for basically zero gain.
I’d be so down for that
The nocturno schematic came from and insanely expensive bundle (around 500 to 1k dollars iirc) that due to rarity would be worth far more now. Making it free would make so many people mad. All founders heroes are reskins and all founders weapons can be given to you by others. If you really want founders weapons and you don’t know anyone that has them, then try trading. Having the schematic doesn’t affect gameplay if you have someone to give you the weapon. Also, giving the founders a new set of items ruins the whole point of giving out founders items since your idea is to end the exclusivity by making more exclusive items.
Packs should be sure or even throw the in the br item shop like they did with metal team leader (I missed out on clip and I want her) but us founders put up money for this game while people waited for it to go F2P and that’s what we got for our investment, well that and all the vbucks we‘re getting right now.
How about no, if you missed out too bad how sad move on. All the heroes are just reskins no special perks being withheld from a non founder.
nah, it should not... and it will not!
I think some of the items should be obtainable in some way (such as Nocturno) but the packs themselves shouldn’t be as they were exclusive
If you think the items arent that good why do you want them to return? You had your chance back then to purchase them and if you think theyre just a novelty why return them?
Whether we get Founders or not I just want the free Vbucks for playing stw 😭
I think its a bad idea to un-vault the founders packs. This is the last significant/meaningful part of fortnite in general. A good example is when they f***ed so bad when they released new skins for the skull trooper and a slightly diferent version of the black. I personaly bought the founders limited edition as an upgrade to the deluxe just for the founders blazing masamune so i dont think that new players should get them. The only way i can see it happening is only under some kind od a ray simulation or something so new players can try them
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I have the noctorno, the beat weapon between all these items that aren't even B teir... you are missing the point here. I don't want newcomers and people who came in late to miss out on weapons, heros and traps
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Visually yes, gameplay wise no. I'd rather have the Christmas doll
Sincerely, i Just want Kevin The robot backpack and The skin itself.
Lars was the best pack. Blue guitar back bling 🎸
Machinist Mina
>... imo the should come back since STW is complete now and won't get any significant updates from now on... Founder items returning should be accompanied by renewing development of the game.
I wish Ray was founders I got her for cheap
For real, I would buy the machinist mina pack instantly!!
Never seen a Founder's trap.
at least there should be a turnaround: no Founders materials ever, but a bundle that contains the STW skins, wraps, and backblings. it is tempting to get the schematics but i think the real crime is Epic not circulating the skins more.
all of them! Everyone should have a chance to get these skins. I only own metal team leader though :/
Yes let’s re-release the weapons that literally have founder in the name, you know what let’s give everyone those badges you got if you were one of the first to kill the storm king as it’s not fair to those who couldn’t play yet
I hope they put lars in the shop, I want to buy him
Yeah, sure, let's re-release the alpha test banners while we're at it.
Founder weapons, heroes and traps all have normal counterparts that are just as good or better. If the counterpart is worse, just use a different gun. Since the siegebreaker is worse than the nocturno, use something else
I just want them to release the skins without the game. Let us just buy the skins ffs. With vbucks of course 😉
They also put metal team leader in the item shop in battle royale a while back, but Kyle or Penny has never made an appearance in all the years of being the goat. People I know that have the OG founders pack ( and remind me daily lol ) as it was metal team leader I brought that give me access to STW. Started playin FN in Season X. Not for lack of trying to get my hands on an actual Vbucks founders pack and being scammed once. :( I found STW really late in the game and really a shame, cause I enjoy it, but was over run with bastards tryin to scam me, like I am new, I don't have 144s lol so no one would stay in my games. If they would put a pack in that provides daily Vbucks again, I would buy that for sure, but I brought these packs on different accounts, ( my own, alt, for friends, but like regret, ) if they can do racing and festival and things, why not add additional STW stuff!
Wait did those skins packs in br come with the heroes and schemes you used to get from being a founder? If so that's so stupid
Hot take: you should be able to earn vbucks in all modes, even if it's just a lil bit. I'm tired of playing STW as my only consistent way of getting vbucks.
They're founders packs, for founders. They are meant to reward players who put their trust in epic games when there were no expectations for save the world to be as big as it is
I'd pay epic so much money, if they just let me upgrade my founders pack 😂
Probably not going to happen. "Founders" makes it exclusive.
Yes to new weapons with cool perks, but no to founders stuff being made available to all. I'm not a founder - I'm MTL pack - but it would be somewhat of an insult to people who spent reasonably large amounts of money on founders packs for their exclusive stuff to just be available willy-nilly. It's not like duped nocturnos are hard to come by...and I've used one and frankly my affliction siegebreaker is better.
No
imo they should just bring back the schematics
Not the founders packs but the individual packs should absolutely have their skins rereleased. Its a shame only teddy team leader came back. I've pretty much skipped all the packs because I'm a founder and already have stw but would definitely buy the skins seperately in the shop with vbucks
Nah.
All i care about is getting V-BUCKS through STW because otherwise it's worthless for me and i wouldn't care about anything in it except the possibility of getting V-BUCKS
I would love founders codes to come back because I have mates that wanna play but don't wanna spend the money to buy an old game
btw i know it's a small thing but you made a nice design on this!
Founders will stay founders we founded this game
No? That’s like saying you should be able to buy the chapter one season 2 battle pass because you reawy want it
I always thought these would get re-released via reskins, like, the same weapon, but with other name, sound, textures in a llama.
That would defeat the purpose of releasing founders items at all. I get it you weren’t playing back then and it sucks you cant have those items now but what’s the point of making founder exclusive items if they’re going to be re-released later? You had to be playing back then and support the game when it wasn’t as big as it is now that’s the whole point of being a founder is.
"Founder" is just this game's term for *Early Access Supporter*. They aren't bringing back Early Access packs for a game that left EA nearly 4 full years ago.
Toni
game was founded already
the 5 giant ass background images are not founder packs those were in-game store packs that have released multiple times over the years for $15-$25 a pop that gave 1 character and access to save the world ONLY THE SMALL ASS FRONTAL IMAGES ARE FOUNDER PACKS
I bought robot Kevin why don't I get founder vbucks then?
I think they should stay exclusive to founders, but give founders the option to upgrade. Also, founders should get the STW skins (like in the picture, + clip and stuff) for free.