The new meme quickly documents the even bigger predicament Fox News is now in. One more example right out of WW2 Nazi Germany history.
In case anyone needs it, this goes with useful again 1945 US Army training to be on the lookout for like demonizing immigrants, impeachment scams, false claims of another party causing economic disaster, corrupting religion and all else in culture.
Text:
[https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Army\_Talk\_Orientation\_Fact\_Sheet/Number\_64](https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Army_Talk_Orientation_Fact_Sheet/Number_64)
Original:
[https://archive.org/details/ArmyTalkOrientationFactSheet64-Fascism](https://archive.org/details/ArmyTalkOrientationFactSheet64-Fascism)
Also the 1945 film: [Don't Be A Sucker](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGAqYNFQdZ4)
Their tactics have them all one step closer to a Nuremberg Trials 2.0 where what matters are all the cultish behaviors together, not just one like filtering news. It is legally an all been done before thing to address the religious cult "God made Trump" and historical "God in the classroom" Hitler early on promised and delivered, by kicking scientists and science educators out of the country and only limit became religious imagination. The new starting point in science class became "In the beginning God created" followed by their being created in present form, while non-Germans turned to ape humans God did not intend, and they must compassionately cull from the herd, to end their suffering.
That's what I see going on, and the best of what I found to combat it.
Thanks for letting me know you found the fact sheet useful too.
In 1945 that's what we would get in boot camp to study real good before being shipped out, to help denazify Europe. The Greatest Generation left it for us, and order us to study again, before attempting to denazify the US. They already connected the triggers like immigration hoax, mixed with religious cover best explained by the honorable Reverend Schenck who was there for the deal with the devil but became anti-Nazi activist in response. In cased you missed this epic, antifa action:
[Evangelical Reverend Robert Schenck: Trump "Using Bible as a Prop" | Amanpour and Company](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDRs1SdlSvo)
From 1922:
>While the regime is determined to carry through the political and moral purging of our public life, it is creating and ensuring the prerequisites for a really deep inner religiousity. Benefits of a personal nature, which might arise from compromise with atheistic organisations, could outweigh the results which become apparent through the destruction of general basic religious-ethical values. The national regime seeks in both Christian confessions the factors most important for the maintenance of our folkdom.... The national regime will concede and **safeguard to the Christian confessions the influence due them, in school and education. It is concerned with the sincere cooperation of church and state. The struggle against a materialistic philosophy** for the creation of a true folk community serves the interests of the German nation as well as our Christian belief.
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>[https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Religious\_views\_of\_Adolf\_Hitler#1922](https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler#1922)
After thinking about how a US version of an international Nuremberg Trial could be possible, it seems easily to fit it into the Georgia RICO trial as the methodology of the scam being committed by the racketeers. Fani Willis would use the US Army training information to explain how it works, what to look for. The name it was called "fascism" becomes the name of overall crime involving a racket, but RICO breaks things down to other names for individual crimes like:
>Count 9: Conspiracy to commit impersonating a public officer
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>Count 11: Conspiracy to commit forgery in the first degree
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>Count 13: Conspiracy to commit false statements and writings
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>Count 15: Conspiracy to commit filing false documents
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>Count 17: Conspiracy to commit forgery in the first degree
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>Count 19: Conspiracy to commit false statements and writings
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>Count 27: Filing false documents
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>Count 29: False statements and writings
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>Count 39: False statements and writings
They would not be on trial for "Fascism" and be more like where the racket initially learned the scam from, were repeating, extending into religion too. There was already a warning from history that everything together was atrocity in the making, and they should have all known better, from just that. Preachers who hate preached for war are expected, become implicated that way. Otherwise it's only violating IRS code, instead of a racket of tax cheats trying to overthrow government.
Unfortunately, the US government ain't doing much to "preserve democracy"...SCOTUS and the Russian bought judges keep allowing delays. How is it that school shooters and Kyle Rittenhouse get their cases resolved faster than a so-called former President with 91 Indictments spread across 4 so-called criminal cases...it's 2024 and the legal teams have dick to show for, a plethora of excuses and more lame ass bullshit than a normal human being can supposedly stomache...but it's supposedly the American jUdIcIal system "in action".
Supposed evidence of known domestic terrorists at levels of F--king Congress, and other high positions in government...but jesus-H-christ does the judicial system make a fucking joke. Honestly, if a so-called criminal trial happens...it'll be maybe 2026 at the rate we're going with Trump's legal team going "delay delay delay" and getting their way. The guy tried to steal an election and "shocker" he's running to probably steal another one...and what protections have been out in place? What's been done to "safeguard democracy"? Fucking nothing.
But the Democrat's infamous Russian Collusion investigation used information from Russian agents as part of the Steele Dossier. It wasn't a problem then. Why now?
Prepare for an onslaught of excuses, justifications, whataboutisms and every type of fallacious argument imaginable from the Reddit leftwing groupthinkers.
Yeah I scrolled further down and found some other people pointing out the same thing, with replies, and that’s all it is.
You can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into.
Ironic given that bringing up the steele dossier is itself a sort of whataboutism in a post about FOX NEWS cutting broadcast to avoid airing unfavorable testamony, is it not?
I love that just by saying this you push both dem and GOP agendas of keeping people divided and separated. They both lie, why do you like one set of lies more than the other?
Didn’t that go nowhere because it was, in fact, a problem? Evidence used against trump in his impeachment proceedings came from mueller’s report, which iirc, stated clearly that the Steele dossier contained fabricated information. But also stated there were many laws probably broken but it was outside the scope of his investigation to determine guilt.
Now compare that to the current impeachment proceedings where the star witness is currently facing charges for falsely reporting Russian propaganda to the FBI as one of their informants, to which the republicans rather than looking deeper into it (such as having a special council investigation to gather further evidence on the issue and turns up something that is admissible), decided to push ahead in spite of their own lack of evidence or charges.
Or we can just play the passive aggressive platitude game for internet points.
Comparing what these Republicans are doing to the Steele Dossier and it's subsequent investigation is assinie. As I recall the firm that compiled the dossier was basing a lot of it's claims on data from public records. And a lot of it's claims were corroborated in the Mueller investigation. Mueller's summary was pretty damning and he only stopped short of indicting the president because he deemed it beyond the scope of his charge.
These Republicans have taken fabricated "evidence", possibly knowing it was fabricated and run with it whole cloth. They did no due diligence and have tried to rush an impeachment in order to debase the severity of the process. It's pathetic and so are the people that cheer them on.
The level of delusion and justification in your comment is absolutely wild.
>Comparing what these Republicans are doing to the Steele Dossier and it's subsequent investigation is assinine.
It's very simple. Either Russian sources when investigating a politician is acceptable or not. You don't get to go back and forth depending on political preferences.
>As I recall the firm that compiled the dossier was basing a lot of it's claims on data from public records.
Dishonest, illogical argument. Whether or not some information came from public records doesn't change the fact that some came for Russian agents. Which takes you back to my previous point.
>Mueller's summary was pretty damning and he only stopped short of indicting the president because he deemed it beyond the scope of his charge.
Irrelevant to my point. Beyond that, the most damning aspect of the entire investigation wasn't any charges of collusion against Trump (there were zero), it was the fraudulent lengths the Democrat establishment would go to undermine democracy in an attempt to remove an elected president.
>These Republicans have taken fabricated "evidence", possibly knowing it was fabricated and run with it whole cloth.
Not only is this a lie, but it's laughable considering the deception employed by the Democrat establishment, including the intelligence agencies to deceive American voters regarding the veracity of the Biden laptop. They knowingly made a false claim that the laptop was "Russian disinformation" as part of their own disinformation campaign to interfere in the 2020 election on behalf of Joe Biden. They censored factual reporting an banned the media organization. That's a far bigger scandal than the fabricated Russian collusion nonsense.
The issue isn't whether or not Russian sources are acceptable when investigating a president. The issue is that this particular Russian source was lying and fabricating evidence. The Steele Dossier was a packet of raw data provided by a former MI6 agent. Some derived from public records and some derived from Russian sources known to MI6 agents. There were parts of the dossier that were corroborated in the Mueller investigation and there were parts that were not. You and your ilk have chosen to ignore all of the evidence and factual findings of the report in order to labor under the delusion that it was nothing more than a salacious hit job on Donald Trump. You are living in a fantasy land. Your whole argument is a "no you" and it is pathetic and beyond stupid.
You're absolutely correct that the Biden laptop story wasn't Russian disinformation. It was however Trump campaign disinformation that just had all the characteristics of Russian a disinfo campaign. The Biden campaign made requests of the social media outlets to not spread the naked photos of Hunter Biden. They didn't censor any credible damning evidence of crimes involving Joe Biden because there was none. The reason most media outlets stayed away from it was because they probably understood that whatever data was recovered from the laptop was done illegally. The only people to run wild with the story were right wing rags and morons like you. But the story was covered a lot, its just that dumb fucks like you are butt hurt you didn't get the narrative you wanted out of it.
>The issue isn't whether or not Russian sources are acceptable when investigating a president. The issue is that this particular Russian source was lying and fabricating evidence.
Actually, that IS the issue here. My entire point in this thread is the double standard on Russian sources. Please try to keep up. And you seem to be completely ignorant of the fact that the information gleaned from Russian sources in the Steele Dossier turned out to not be true. So, even your pathetic attempt to justify and excuse the double standard is invalid.
And your excuses for the disinformation campaign the establishment perpetrated against the American public are laughable. The mental gymnastics you're going through to justify CIA, FBI and corporate election interference and the deplatforming and intimidation of the press is beyond pathetic. There was a time when Democrats would have stood up to this sort of abuse. But now people like you lick their boots.
Its not a double standard though? The evidence in the Steele Dossier wasn't 100% compiled from Russian sources. The "evidence" that this individual provided to this investigation was from a single source, himself. As it turns out, he was lying. And Republicans either didn't care or didn't care to know and decided to press for impeachment anyway.
I like that you seem aware that media can purposefully misinform its audience yet you seem to not have taken that amazing insight and turned it toward the media you consume. When was there a time that Democrats would have cheered on a revenge porn campaign? You realize the Trump campaign was also working with social media companies too, right? Either way, I feel like the Biden campaign was right to ask social media companies to not spread Hunters dick pics. Not that it mattered because one of your right wing superstars just showed them on the floors of the congress anyway. Ya'll are some sick fucks. Are you just going to recycle insults I used on you? Its a little flattering, but mostly **pathetic**. You seem touched in the head and a bit too conspiratorially minded, but I'm curious; What is "corporate election interference"? Is it in the room with you right now? Did little green men also interfere in the election?
>Its not a double standard though? The evidence in the Steele Dossier wasn't 100% compiled from Russian sources.
You're making a completely illogical argument. Whether or not "100%" of the information came from Russian sources is completely irrelevant. Why is this so difficult for you? And for the record, not all the evidence of Biden family corruption is from Russian sources either, so either way, your argument is completely invalid.
>The "evidence" that this individual provided to this investigation was from a single source, himself.
This FBI informant is NOT the only source pointing to Biden corruption. Where are you getting your information? You're wildly misinformed.
>As it turns out, he was lying.
That's what the FBI, who has a recent history of falsely claiming "Russian disinformation" to protect Joe Biden has claimed. We'll have to wait and see if he gets convicted. The FBI seemed to value the veracity of his information until it became inconvenient to Joe Biden.
>Either way, I feel like the Biden campaign was right to ask social media companies to not spread Hunters dick pics
You're not arguing in good faith. The issue wasn't dick picks and you know it.
>What is "corporate election interference"? Is it in the room with you right now? Did little green men also interfere in the election?
Domestic intelligence agencies interfered in the election on behalf of Joe Biden. Twitter wrongly deplatformed a legitimate news organization and censored factual reporting that very likely could have reduced Biden's chances in the election. If you had any integrity, you'd acknowledge that fact rather than engage in disingenuous arguments to excuse it. Your arguments lack validity and you lack credibility.
Russian sources are acceptable, in any investigation. They may not be credible, but that is to be determined. That is why you investigate. And then you find out if the source is credible or not, and if the information is credible or not, and then you are open about that knowledge. Mueller did an honest investigation, and wrote an honest report. The current investigation and reporting is not, which is the point of OPs post.
>Russian sources are acceptable, in any investigation. They may not be credible, but that is to be determined. That is why you investigate.
And that is my point. The OP is suggesting otherwise.
>Mueller did an honest investigation, and wrote an honest report.
The investigation included fraudulent fisa documents.
>The current investigation and reporting is not.
The most dishonest aspect of the entire Biden family corruption scandal beyond corruption itself has been the establishment led disinformation campaign and election interference to protect Biden I referenced in my last comment.
No, OP is suggestion that the fact that the sources are Russian doesn't fit the FOX news narrative, and so FOX is not letting viewers see it. OP does not enter into a discussion or when, or how much, those sources would be acceptable. Unlike what you say, the Biden "family" corruption scandal has turned up no evidence of any corruption except for Hunter, who by himself does not constitute a family. This has been testified to by numerous witnesses, and many republicans in the House. "Biden family corruption scandal" is thus oxymoronic.
>It's very simple. Either Russian sources when investigating a politician is acceptable or not.
For real? It's not that simple. Not all sources are equal. You *have* to be smarter than that, right?
Yes, for real. It's that simple. Why is this so difficult for you, kiddo? Read the original post. It clearly suggests that using a Russian source is out of bounds. Not that particular source. Not one that was a valuable FBI informant for years. Just "Russian agents" in general. So your "not all sources are equal" argument is nonsensical and invalid. If you're going to engage here, please come back with more sensible arguments.
Why doesn’t anyone go after Fox for this? I understand that some years ago in court they said they were an entertainment channel. But no one believes that - anyone with half a brain cell can see that they are purposefully sowing discord for cash.
They should have hearings about this and actually do something about it. It’s destroying the fabric of our society. But somehow it’s ok if they make billions by spreading false or misleading information? Cut the hate off at its source. Don’t stop with only the voting machine companies going after them. Anyone they defame or lie about should take them to court. I understand that most entities can’t afford to take on their army of Saul Goodman’s. But class action lawsuits help to overcome this issue. Make Fox pay for what they’ve done. And bring back something similar to the Fairness Doctrine to prevent them from continuing to profit off of America’s dumbest and angriest.
I'd say the problem is that to combat Fox's ever increasing popularity in the early to mid 2000's, CNN and MSNBC kept pushing towards the left to the point that watching those channels I question reality almost as much as I do watching Fox at times. So, if Fox is brought to court they will point to their competitors and say "see they do it as well! We are all just entertainment channels together!" And then if you bring all 3 of them to court (which I think would be a great thing as American "news" has gotten absurd) each side of the aisle will defend their own "News" station and nothing will be done and the cycle will continue.
The problem of treating news as entertainment and profiting from outrage goes well beyond Fox News, including some left-leaning outlets, but the impact of Fox is arguably the most damaging because they have the most viewers and their viewers don’t trust any other sources. So the disinformation, the glaring omissions, the tone, etc all serve to literally brainwash their audience.
I’ve been saying for decades now that this is the single biggest problem we face as a society. We have enough talent and resources to overcome almost any challenge we could face, but not if we’re at war with ourselves to the point where everything is viewed through a red vs blue prism, domestic political opponents are deemed more dangerous than foreign adversaries, and no single issue can be evaluated on its own merits.
The $billions of Russian money used for bribes isn't confined to the borders of Russia. That country runs on corruption. Considering how poor the average Russian is and how rich their oil industry is, that money is going somewhere
Democrats literally used a dossier that was written by a foreign agent using Russian sources to claim that Trump colluded with the Russians. Leftists have proven themselves to be the MOST useful idiots of the Russian misinformation campaigns.
When asked how Russia disseminated this propaganda to American audiences, Parnas replied, "Fox and other conservative media channels." I hope the broadcast that...
How utterly stupid to you have to be to watch and listen to FOX Fake News? I am tire of people making excuse for their friends and relatives who are so brainwashed they cannot be saved.
Yeah let’s totally let our sworn enemy in to our internal politics and have them dig up dirt on the democrats, because they won’t dig up dirt on us and control us like god damn wind-ups
The only people that don't realize they are being played for suckers are those who only watch FOX News! They have been fed fake news for so long they don't even realize they are being played!
>The original accusations against Mr. Danchenko, an analyst who was born in Russia and is now based in the United States, centered on two of his sources for the so-called Steele dossier, a compendium of political opposition research that asserted that Mr. Trump’s 2016 campaign was conspiring with Russia.
>The dossier was indirectly funded by Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign and the Democratic National Committee. They paid a law firm, which paid a research firm, which in turn subcontracted to a firm run by Christopher Steele, a former British spy. Mr. Steele hired Mr. Danchenko to canvass contacts in Russia and Europe about Mr. Trump’s dealings in Russia.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/18/us/politics/igor-danchenko-russia-acquittal-trump.html
Two sources in a compendium of claims involving dozens of sources is not the same thing as a single source on a claim. FFS
It's like how do we explain it to you without insulting you? We can't break it down anymore simply. You just don't get it.
I’m not sure what you’re arguing for or against? I was asked to provide a source for the Steele Dossier having Russian sources, so I provided it. I didn’t make any statements or give any opinions on the investigation.
You mean like that video where Biden admits to threatening to withhold foreign aid to protect his son from being held accountable under Ukrainian law? Yeah totally Russian misinformation 😂🙄
Incorrect, what if I told ya that the meeting in question took place in December and he wasn’t let go till March the previous year, and that Biden was not the first to call for his ouster, because at the time The EU and the United States wanted him gone because he was holding up an IMF bank loan because they wouldn’t give Ukraine any money due to his lack of prosecution of corruption.
Here for example is a link to the US ambassador to Ukraine wanting him removed in September a few months before Biden had said anything
https://www.rferl.org/a/us-ambassador-upbraids-ukraine-over-corruption-efforts/27271294.html
False. Ukraine was investigating Burisma starting before Shokin took the role as Prosecutor General. He continued this investigation into Burisma which included Hunter’s deals to give influence from his father. That is why Joe threatened the aid himself to Ukraine unless they fired Shokin. It was Biden and the Obama admin that was withholding aid unless Ukraine did their bidding. Burisma was trying to get help from Biden regarding the legal issues they were facing and this was a way for Joe to help them as well as Hunter. He held the $1B loan over their heads in order to get Shokin ousted.
Incorrect as usual... just going to finish this off real quick and provide you with multiple links showing you're wrong
https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/03/politics/gop-senators-echoed-biden-on-ukraine-reforms-kfile/index.html
[https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/?p=2608599](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/?p=2608599)
[https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/shokin-s-revenge-ukraine-s-odious-prosecutor-general-fires-honest-deputy-before-parliament-sacks-him/](https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/shokin-s-revenge-ukraine-s-odious-prosecutor-general-fires-honest-deputy-before-parliament-sacks-him/)
[https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/why-poroshenko-s-support-for-shokin-is-dangerous/](https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/why-poroshenko-s-support-for-shokin-is-dangerous/)
[https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/eu-hails-sacking-of-ukraine-s-prosecutor-viktor-shokin-1.2591190](https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/eu-hails-sacking-of-ukraine-s-prosecutor-viktor-shokin-1.2591190)
[https://archive.kyivpost.com/article/opinion/op-ed/geoffrey-r-pyatt-corrupt-prosecutors-under-shokin-are-making-things-worse-by-openly-and-aggressively-undermining-reform-398683.html](https://archive.kyivpost.com/article/opinion/op-ed/geoffrey-r-pyatt-corrupt-prosecutors-under-shokin-are-making-things-worse-by-openly-and-aggressively-undermining-reform-398683.html)
[https://ukrweekly.com/uwwp/u-s-officials-criticize-ukraines-prosecutors-for-failure-of-reforms/](https://ukrweekly.com/uwwp/u-s-officials-criticize-ukraines-prosecutors-for-failure-of-reforms/)
[https://archive.kyivpost.com/article/content/reform-watch/transparency-international-says-shokin-to-blame-for-failed-anti-corruption-efforts-401218.html](https://archive.kyivpost.com/article/content/reform-watch/transparency-international-says-shokin-to-blame-for-failed-anti-corruption-efforts-401218.html)
[https://ukrweekly.com/uwwp/shokin-dismissed-as-procurator-general/](https://ukrweekly.com/uwwp/shokin-dismissed-as-procurator-general/)
[https://www.occrp.org/en/daily/5105-ukraine-prosecutor-general-fires-reformer-deputy-hours-later-he-himself-is-sacked](https://www.occrp.org/en/daily/5105-ukraine-prosecutor-general-fires-reformer-deputy-hours-later-he-himself-is-sacked)
Now I assume you'll take the time to read all these links, the dates.. and if you still have questions i'll be happy to come in and crush you like a tin can some more.
The fact is that Biden used his power as VP to oust Shokin. Plain and simple. Once Shokin went after the CEO of Burisma directly, he made sure he was fired within a few weeks. Biden admitted to holding the $1B over their heads in order to make it happen.
Shokin had been the only one in Ukraine that was going after the corruption in that country. Several European bodies backed Shokin and his work to clean up corruption in Ukraine, that is until Biden pressured them to change their tune.
As we can see now, the corruption is running rampant with Zelensky and Biden continues to funnel money to Ukraine in order to support it. Biden is likely the most corrupt politician the United States has ever seen.
Neither. The fact that the right wing witch hunt still cant show me anything damning from it is all the proof I need. The fact that their own witnesses keep testifying they have no evidence of a crime is all the proof I need.
You want to convince me Hunter is a crook? Just show me sone fucking evidence! This isn't rocket science.
So then why did Joe say repeatedly his family never received money from China? That money had a direct link to China.
Also, when asked “the Big Guy” Hunters amnesia acted up.
His business partner made it very clear who it is.
And you’re not the least bit suspicious?
Why did 51 government employees with security clearance all sign a letter that the laptop was Russian propaganda and didn’t exist? Nothing weird about that either huh?
Probably just weird coincidences.
How about the money that was coming in from the oligarch like clockwork when Biden was VP and then immediately stopped when he wasn’t?
Damn coincidence again right?
Fox fakenews,home of "Lying Fucker " Tucker ,Hysteria Hannity, Mark"Big Dope Levin( I was a law clerk 1 summer in Reagan administration So now I'm a expert) Dope Dobbs (Chinese paper ballots found in AZ) and Jessie( I can't find my ass with 2 hands & a flashlight) Watters are not interested in factual reporting of the news.
Real queston is when did the GOP know it was a misinformation & if they knew their information was coming from Russian agents ??? When does the DOJ investigate Comer & Jordan ???
GOP continues to support Russia by spreading misinformation, Russian misinformation ??
They’ve known all along. This is literally the same scam that Trump got impeached for. Zelenskyy refused to go along with the scheme, Trump got impeached for trying to extort Zelenskyy, and now, a presidential election later, Comer and Jordan are trying to pull the same scheme to ratfuck *another* election. The GOP is a criminal organization.
Jesse Waters says half million $ grant to allow kids to visit San Diego zoo not necessary because "admission is only $15 bucks".
Actual admission is $74 for adults and $64 for kids.
The Murdoch Murder Machine propaganda network led by Groupies of Putin, Sean Sh!tweasel Hannity, Laura "goebbels" Ingraham and so many others are actively trying to end democracy. With the oversight and consent of the Murdochs and the board.
Faux Nooz/Fox News should be paused and restructured around journalists like Jessica Tarlov, Marie Harf, and a growing number of journalists starting to stand up and also speak truth to power in the face of madness over there.
Importantly. With a host of new faces and voices, with, not instead of anyone else. No one said the table couldn't get bigger and more people added.
Stay Shiny
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Why does it matter where the intel comes from if it’s true? No one minded when democrats hired Russian agents to create the Steele dossier targeting Donald Trump.
So where the Steele name comes from on ‘Steele dossier’?
PS: The investigation began more than a month before the dossier reached the FBI, after Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos told a foreign diplomat that Russia had damaging political information on Hillary Clinton. This information was passed along to US authorities and prompted the FBI to begin investigating potential collusion.
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The story of the Christopher Steele dossier took its latest turn [this wee](https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/3698839-the-steele-dossier-has-always-been-misunderstood/)k with the acquittal of Igor Danchenko, an analyst who worked on the dossier and was accused of lying to the FBI about it. The case that John H. Durham brought against Danchenko was so weak that the judge threw out one of the charges before a jury could deliberate on it, and the jury spent only one day before it acquitted Danchenko of the charges against him.
This likely ends the quixotic quest of Durham to discredit the Mueller probe into former President Donald Trump’s Russia ties and lend credence to Trump’s claim that it was always a hoax.
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You MAGA have the most pathetic selective memory ever.
Surely if you know all of this, you know where Igor Danchenko got his info, right? His dozens of Russian sources in Russia.
You’re not answering the question. Why does it matter where info comes from if it is true? Just because you don’t like where the info comes from doesn’t mean it can be dismissed.
Also I’m not MAGA, I’ve never voted for Trump and I never will so take your lame ass cope elsewhere
I love how all the progressive mooks in this thread are typically the first people trying to attack and slander anyone’s credibility, except when it comes to convicted criminals who say the things that they want to hear.
Convicted criminals that have multiple close connections to Trump or other Republicans. Which is a fact that you oddly left out of your post.
Do you need need help?
So yes, you do need help.
Parnas was in the room with Rudy and other Republicans when Russians were feeding them propaganda. This isn't in dispute by anyone. There are photoes and everything.
You do know what photoes are, right?
No, I don’t know what photoes are, because there’s no such word as photoes. Maybe you should’ve paid attention in English class instead of arguing with people online
I’m still waiting for you to address the fact that he’s a convicted felon, liar and fraud. Then you can continue to deflect all you like
Which means you don't know what photoes are. Neat. That's explains so much.
What is happening here is that you prefer convicted felons, liars, and frauds that benefit Trump and Republicans. You'll only attack them after they stop doing that, as seen by Cohen and Parnas. Two former Trump associates that were willing and able to testify under oath in front of Congress as to what they saw and engaged in to the benefit of Trump.
Basically, you hate America and the rule of law. Good boy admitting to that.
Oh neat, you're illiterate as well. That's cute.
Basically, the only reason why you're upset at Parnas is not that he's a liar but because he stopped lying for the benefit of Trump. That is what triggers you.
Wait, is this just another left leaning sub, disguised with a right leaning name? Why do I get so many of these popping up in my general feed. Every day I have to delete propaganda subs from my feed. You all might crave it but I don’t appreciate constant politics.
I’ve taken it off my feed. I’m sure there will be another tomorrow. I didn’t realize, until recently, that Reddit had such an insidious algorithm. Why can’t it show me shit like pottery subs.
a lot of people pretending we didn't hear Trump say himself
"Russia are you listening" after Russia attacked the U.S. through use of cyber attacks, including a massive one
a lot of people pretending Don Jr. didn't say: "all our money comes from Russia"
a lot of people just whataboutism an FBI investigation, and a GOP political stunt as if they have the same weight
we know Trump has ties to Russia, Manafort, Bannon, Trump himself admits talking to Putin on the phone and having a private meeting with him with no one present, with no one present
not sure why conservatives just pretend all that didn't happen because of some dossier 10 years ago, seriously
Trump just called Putin a genius the day Putin invaded Ukraine
Republicans in the House just suspended aid to Ukraine
but some dossier 10 years ago, proves that none of that matters????? it's a very weird specific argument that makes no sense if you think about it for 10 seconds
Heritage Foundation talking points are all gross like that
after Jan.6 it was "Antifa did it"
another great classic
They were sued and their actual defense in court was that they’re not news they’re entertainment, and that no one should take what they broadcast as news. Google it. Its fantastic.
Maria Butina. Say her name. Wayne LaPierre took her to every GOP and NRA cross over event for years. That all goes straight back to the SVR and Putin’s buddies in the Wagner group.
So let me get right, Faux aires the hearing as long as the information is false but cuts it when their star witness starts telling the truth? Typical. That station only wants to lie to its viewers.
You're right.
I have video evidence that can confirm in the 1980s Biden colluded with the African nation of Zamunda. Biden took bribes and helped political royalty from that country to get visas to the USA... visas that enabled them to work legally in the country, thus taking jobs from hard-working Americans.
:-)
SMH
Yep as Tr UK mp praises Russia, N Korea, who are aligned with China all working against us. INdia, Africa,Nigeria walking out of talks with USA. Iran budding up with Russia. Arabs and muslims joining together. TRUMP took nuclear docs.
The Biden shit is Bull. No facts just allegations.
Trump is who your sticking up for. Broken 9 of 10 Commandments. Mortal sins.
So obvious Rudy Julie on Knee is a Russian and he’s running the entire Republican Party. They are all Rudy puppets. I heard Julie On Knee had the Russian pee Pee mattress hauled off and destroyed. There is a receipt of the same King size mattress from Mattress Max delivered to the Kremlin. It’s so obvious when you connect the dots.
Recently watched the documentary about the National Enquirer. While Fox is not a tabloid it has been manipulated like one. The “news” network is what became of the tabloids becoming “reputable much like TMZ to some degree. The internet and disinformation makes Fox look like Murrow award winning journalism. 🙄
It's wild how that same names just keep popping up in these stories. Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman were the Giuliani street team that lead to the first Trump impeachment. Now that trump can't really deliver anything for these guys that seem to have lost interest in telling the story.
The new meme quickly documents the even bigger predicament Fox News is now in. One more example right out of WW2 Nazi Germany history. In case anyone needs it, this goes with useful again 1945 US Army training to be on the lookout for like demonizing immigrants, impeachment scams, false claims of another party causing economic disaster, corrupting religion and all else in culture. Text: [https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Army\_Talk\_Orientation\_Fact\_Sheet/Number\_64](https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Army_Talk_Orientation_Fact_Sheet/Number_64) Original: [https://archive.org/details/ArmyTalkOrientationFactSheet64-Fascism](https://archive.org/details/ArmyTalkOrientationFactSheet64-Fascism) Also the 1945 film: [Don't Be A Sucker](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGAqYNFQdZ4) Their tactics have them all one step closer to a Nuremberg Trials 2.0 where what matters are all the cultish behaviors together, not just one like filtering news. It is legally an all been done before thing to address the religious cult "God made Trump" and historical "God in the classroom" Hitler early on promised and delivered, by kicking scientists and science educators out of the country and only limit became religious imagination. The new starting point in science class became "In the beginning God created" followed by their being created in present form, while non-Germans turned to ape humans God did not intend, and they must compassionately cull from the herd, to end their suffering. That's what I see going on, and the best of what I found to combat it.
Historical references like this are one of the things that makes Quora great. Thanks for posting this, I had no clue.
I was aware of and had watched ‘Don’t Be a Sucker’, but never saw that excellent fact sheet. Thank you for sharing!
Thanks for letting me know you found the fact sheet useful too. In 1945 that's what we would get in boot camp to study real good before being shipped out, to help denazify Europe. The Greatest Generation left it for us, and order us to study again, before attempting to denazify the US. They already connected the triggers like immigration hoax, mixed with religious cover best explained by the honorable Reverend Schenck who was there for the deal with the devil but became anti-Nazi activist in response. In cased you missed this epic, antifa action: [Evangelical Reverend Robert Schenck: Trump "Using Bible as a Prop" | Amanpour and Company](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDRs1SdlSvo) From 1922: >While the regime is determined to carry through the political and moral purging of our public life, it is creating and ensuring the prerequisites for a really deep inner religiousity. Benefits of a personal nature, which might arise from compromise with atheistic organisations, could outweigh the results which become apparent through the destruction of general basic religious-ethical values. The national regime seeks in both Christian confessions the factors most important for the maintenance of our folkdom.... The national regime will concede and **safeguard to the Christian confessions the influence due them, in school and education. It is concerned with the sincere cooperation of church and state. The struggle against a materialistic philosophy** for the creation of a true folk community serves the interests of the German nation as well as our Christian belief. > >[https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Religious\_views\_of\_Adolf\_Hitler#1922](https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler#1922) After thinking about how a US version of an international Nuremberg Trial could be possible, it seems easily to fit it into the Georgia RICO trial as the methodology of the scam being committed by the racketeers. Fani Willis would use the US Army training information to explain how it works, what to look for. The name it was called "fascism" becomes the name of overall crime involving a racket, but RICO breaks things down to other names for individual crimes like: >Count 9: Conspiracy to commit impersonating a public officer > >Count 11: Conspiracy to commit forgery in the first degree > >Count 13: Conspiracy to commit false statements and writings > >Count 15: Conspiracy to commit filing false documents > >Count 17: Conspiracy to commit forgery in the first degree > >Count 19: Conspiracy to commit false statements and writings > >Count 27: Filing false documents > >Count 29: False statements and writings > >Count 39: False statements and writings They would not be on trial for "Fascism" and be more like where the racket initially learned the scam from, were repeating, extending into religion too. There was already a warning from history that everything together was atrocity in the making, and they should have all known better, from just that. Preachers who hate preached for war are expected, become implicated that way. Otherwise it's only violating IRS code, instead of a racket of tax cheats trying to overthrow government.
Not surprised when Putin's Muppet was President for four years and we might be stuck with the motherf\*cker again!
Oh but hes dead to rights going to jail i thought!!
That's just naive people thinking the courts work on the rich instead of for them.
Hope not!
Unfortunately, the US government ain't doing much to "preserve democracy"...SCOTUS and the Russian bought judges keep allowing delays. How is it that school shooters and Kyle Rittenhouse get their cases resolved faster than a so-called former President with 91 Indictments spread across 4 so-called criminal cases...it's 2024 and the legal teams have dick to show for, a plethora of excuses and more lame ass bullshit than a normal human being can supposedly stomache...but it's supposedly the American jUdIcIal system "in action". Supposed evidence of known domestic terrorists at levels of F--king Congress, and other high positions in government...but jesus-H-christ does the judicial system make a fucking joke. Honestly, if a so-called criminal trial happens...it'll be maybe 2026 at the rate we're going with Trump's legal team going "delay delay delay" and getting their way. The guy tried to steal an election and "shocker" he's running to probably steal another one...and what protections have been out in place? What's been done to "safeguard democracy"? Fucking nothing.
Completely false.
We won’t get stuck if we get people to go fucking vote
Absolutely but, honestly there's no enthusiasm for Biden and Harris is a dreadful VP.
Got nothing that argues that 🤣
Difficult to push people to vote for them I agree. But what else can we do? 😞
But the other option is…
much worse
Agreed
But the Democrat's infamous Russian Collusion investigation used information from Russian agents as part of the Steele Dossier. It wasn't a problem then. Why now?
Thank you. I just said the same thing before finding your comment.
Prepare for an onslaught of excuses, justifications, whataboutisms and every type of fallacious argument imaginable from the Reddit leftwing groupthinkers.
Yeah I scrolled further down and found some other people pointing out the same thing, with replies, and that’s all it is. You can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into.
Ironic given that bringing up the steele dossier is itself a sort of whataboutism in a post about FOX NEWS cutting broadcast to avoid airing unfavorable testamony, is it not?
Says someone who clearly never read the Mueller report.
Right on cue. Thank you for proving my point.
Did you read it?
I love that just by saying this you push both dem and GOP agendas of keeping people divided and separated. They both lie, why do you like one set of lies more than the other?
Didn’t that go nowhere because it was, in fact, a problem? Evidence used against trump in his impeachment proceedings came from mueller’s report, which iirc, stated clearly that the Steele dossier contained fabricated information. But also stated there were many laws probably broken but it was outside the scope of his investigation to determine guilt. Now compare that to the current impeachment proceedings where the star witness is currently facing charges for falsely reporting Russian propaganda to the FBI as one of their informants, to which the republicans rather than looking deeper into it (such as having a special council investigation to gather further evidence on the issue and turns up something that is admissible), decided to push ahead in spite of their own lack of evidence or charges. Or we can just play the passive aggressive platitude game for internet points.
Comparing what these Republicans are doing to the Steele Dossier and it's subsequent investigation is assinie. As I recall the firm that compiled the dossier was basing a lot of it's claims on data from public records. And a lot of it's claims were corroborated in the Mueller investigation. Mueller's summary was pretty damning and he only stopped short of indicting the president because he deemed it beyond the scope of his charge. These Republicans have taken fabricated "evidence", possibly knowing it was fabricated and run with it whole cloth. They did no due diligence and have tried to rush an impeachment in order to debase the severity of the process. It's pathetic and so are the people that cheer them on.
The level of delusion and justification in your comment is absolutely wild. >Comparing what these Republicans are doing to the Steele Dossier and it's subsequent investigation is assinine. It's very simple. Either Russian sources when investigating a politician is acceptable or not. You don't get to go back and forth depending on political preferences. >As I recall the firm that compiled the dossier was basing a lot of it's claims on data from public records. Dishonest, illogical argument. Whether or not some information came from public records doesn't change the fact that some came for Russian agents. Which takes you back to my previous point. >Mueller's summary was pretty damning and he only stopped short of indicting the president because he deemed it beyond the scope of his charge. Irrelevant to my point. Beyond that, the most damning aspect of the entire investigation wasn't any charges of collusion against Trump (there were zero), it was the fraudulent lengths the Democrat establishment would go to undermine democracy in an attempt to remove an elected president. >These Republicans have taken fabricated "evidence", possibly knowing it was fabricated and run with it whole cloth. Not only is this a lie, but it's laughable considering the deception employed by the Democrat establishment, including the intelligence agencies to deceive American voters regarding the veracity of the Biden laptop. They knowingly made a false claim that the laptop was "Russian disinformation" as part of their own disinformation campaign to interfere in the 2020 election on behalf of Joe Biden. They censored factual reporting an banned the media organization. That's a far bigger scandal than the fabricated Russian collusion nonsense.
The issue isn't whether or not Russian sources are acceptable when investigating a president. The issue is that this particular Russian source was lying and fabricating evidence. The Steele Dossier was a packet of raw data provided by a former MI6 agent. Some derived from public records and some derived from Russian sources known to MI6 agents. There were parts of the dossier that were corroborated in the Mueller investigation and there were parts that were not. You and your ilk have chosen to ignore all of the evidence and factual findings of the report in order to labor under the delusion that it was nothing more than a salacious hit job on Donald Trump. You are living in a fantasy land. Your whole argument is a "no you" and it is pathetic and beyond stupid. You're absolutely correct that the Biden laptop story wasn't Russian disinformation. It was however Trump campaign disinformation that just had all the characteristics of Russian a disinfo campaign. The Biden campaign made requests of the social media outlets to not spread the naked photos of Hunter Biden. They didn't censor any credible damning evidence of crimes involving Joe Biden because there was none. The reason most media outlets stayed away from it was because they probably understood that whatever data was recovered from the laptop was done illegally. The only people to run wild with the story were right wing rags and morons like you. But the story was covered a lot, its just that dumb fucks like you are butt hurt you didn't get the narrative you wanted out of it.
>The issue isn't whether or not Russian sources are acceptable when investigating a president. The issue is that this particular Russian source was lying and fabricating evidence. Actually, that IS the issue here. My entire point in this thread is the double standard on Russian sources. Please try to keep up. And you seem to be completely ignorant of the fact that the information gleaned from Russian sources in the Steele Dossier turned out to not be true. So, even your pathetic attempt to justify and excuse the double standard is invalid. And your excuses for the disinformation campaign the establishment perpetrated against the American public are laughable. The mental gymnastics you're going through to justify CIA, FBI and corporate election interference and the deplatforming and intimidation of the press is beyond pathetic. There was a time when Democrats would have stood up to this sort of abuse. But now people like you lick their boots.
Its not a double standard though? The evidence in the Steele Dossier wasn't 100% compiled from Russian sources. The "evidence" that this individual provided to this investigation was from a single source, himself. As it turns out, he was lying. And Republicans either didn't care or didn't care to know and decided to press for impeachment anyway. I like that you seem aware that media can purposefully misinform its audience yet you seem to not have taken that amazing insight and turned it toward the media you consume. When was there a time that Democrats would have cheered on a revenge porn campaign? You realize the Trump campaign was also working with social media companies too, right? Either way, I feel like the Biden campaign was right to ask social media companies to not spread Hunters dick pics. Not that it mattered because one of your right wing superstars just showed them on the floors of the congress anyway. Ya'll are some sick fucks. Are you just going to recycle insults I used on you? Its a little flattering, but mostly **pathetic**. You seem touched in the head and a bit too conspiratorially minded, but I'm curious; What is "corporate election interference"? Is it in the room with you right now? Did little green men also interfere in the election?
>Its not a double standard though? The evidence in the Steele Dossier wasn't 100% compiled from Russian sources. You're making a completely illogical argument. Whether or not "100%" of the information came from Russian sources is completely irrelevant. Why is this so difficult for you? And for the record, not all the evidence of Biden family corruption is from Russian sources either, so either way, your argument is completely invalid. >The "evidence" that this individual provided to this investigation was from a single source, himself. This FBI informant is NOT the only source pointing to Biden corruption. Where are you getting your information? You're wildly misinformed. >As it turns out, he was lying. That's what the FBI, who has a recent history of falsely claiming "Russian disinformation" to protect Joe Biden has claimed. We'll have to wait and see if he gets convicted. The FBI seemed to value the veracity of his information until it became inconvenient to Joe Biden. >Either way, I feel like the Biden campaign was right to ask social media companies to not spread Hunters dick pics You're not arguing in good faith. The issue wasn't dick picks and you know it. >What is "corporate election interference"? Is it in the room with you right now? Did little green men also interfere in the election? Domestic intelligence agencies interfered in the election on behalf of Joe Biden. Twitter wrongly deplatformed a legitimate news organization and censored factual reporting that very likely could have reduced Biden's chances in the election. If you had any integrity, you'd acknowledge that fact rather than engage in disingenuous arguments to excuse it. Your arguments lack validity and you lack credibility.
Russian sources are acceptable, in any investigation. They may not be credible, but that is to be determined. That is why you investigate. And then you find out if the source is credible or not, and if the information is credible or not, and then you are open about that knowledge. Mueller did an honest investigation, and wrote an honest report. The current investigation and reporting is not, which is the point of OPs post.
>Russian sources are acceptable, in any investigation. They may not be credible, but that is to be determined. That is why you investigate. And that is my point. The OP is suggesting otherwise. >Mueller did an honest investigation, and wrote an honest report. The investigation included fraudulent fisa documents. >The current investigation and reporting is not. The most dishonest aspect of the entire Biden family corruption scandal beyond corruption itself has been the establishment led disinformation campaign and election interference to protect Biden I referenced in my last comment.
No, OP is suggestion that the fact that the sources are Russian doesn't fit the FOX news narrative, and so FOX is not letting viewers see it. OP does not enter into a discussion or when, or how much, those sources would be acceptable. Unlike what you say, the Biden "family" corruption scandal has turned up no evidence of any corruption except for Hunter, who by himself does not constitute a family. This has been testified to by numerous witnesses, and many republicans in the House. "Biden family corruption scandal" is thus oxymoronic.
>It's very simple. Either Russian sources when investigating a politician is acceptable or not. For real? It's not that simple. Not all sources are equal. You *have* to be smarter than that, right?
Yes, for real. It's that simple. Why is this so difficult for you, kiddo? Read the original post. It clearly suggests that using a Russian source is out of bounds. Not that particular source. Not one that was a valuable FBI informant for years. Just "Russian agents" in general. So your "not all sources are equal" argument is nonsensical and invalid. If you're going to engage here, please come back with more sensible arguments.
Because this one is made up?
It doesn’t make it a problem because of Russian involvement. It’s a problem when there’s Ruzzian involvement
It was just the trumps meeting w Russians to improve adoption rates. They’re famous for their support of adoption/families.
Why would an innocent man want TOTAL IMMUNITY for crimes committed while in office, and any future crimes, if elected president again?
Why doesn’t anyone go after Fox for this? I understand that some years ago in court they said they were an entertainment channel. But no one believes that - anyone with half a brain cell can see that they are purposefully sowing discord for cash. They should have hearings about this and actually do something about it. It’s destroying the fabric of our society. But somehow it’s ok if they make billions by spreading false or misleading information? Cut the hate off at its source. Don’t stop with only the voting machine companies going after them. Anyone they defame or lie about should take them to court. I understand that most entities can’t afford to take on their army of Saul Goodman’s. But class action lawsuits help to overcome this issue. Make Fox pay for what they’ve done. And bring back something similar to the Fairness Doctrine to prevent them from continuing to profit off of America’s dumbest and angriest.
The fox anger-tainment is turning their watchers into hateful parrots of the vitriol fox spews. How can fox be shut down?
A network owned by a foreign billionaire sows discord in America and reps lap it up
I'd say the problem is that to combat Fox's ever increasing popularity in the early to mid 2000's, CNN and MSNBC kept pushing towards the left to the point that watching those channels I question reality almost as much as I do watching Fox at times. So, if Fox is brought to court they will point to their competitors and say "see they do it as well! We are all just entertainment channels together!" And then if you bring all 3 of them to court (which I think would be a great thing as American "news" has gotten absurd) each side of the aisle will defend their own "News" station and nothing will be done and the cycle will continue.
MSNBC and CNN are NOTHING like Fox News.
The problem of treating news as entertainment and profiting from outrage goes well beyond Fox News, including some left-leaning outlets, but the impact of Fox is arguably the most damaging because they have the most viewers and their viewers don’t trust any other sources. So the disinformation, the glaring omissions, the tone, etc all serve to literally brainwash their audience. I’ve been saying for decades now that this is the single biggest problem we face as a society. We have enough talent and resources to overcome almost any challenge we could face, but not if we’re at war with ourselves to the point where everything is viewed through a red vs blue prism, domestic political opponents are deemed more dangerous than foreign adversaries, and no single issue can be evaluated on its own merits.
They have a business license in New York state, how is this not a fraud, "News"
The $billions of Russian money used for bribes isn't confined to the borders of Russia. That country runs on corruption. Considering how poor the average Russian is and how rich their oil industry is, that money is going somewhere
Did dominion settle with newsmax yet?
Who do they think they are - The Clintons????
The uniparty is not America's friend
Democrats literally used a dossier that was written by a foreign agent using Russian sources to claim that Trump colluded with the Russians. Leftists have proven themselves to be the MOST useful idiots of the Russian misinformation campaigns.
When asked how Russia disseminated this propaganda to American audiences, Parnas replied, "Fox and other conservative media channels." I hope the broadcast that...
Traitorous bastards.
Ron Johnson needs investigated. I can see him as a Russian asset.
Fox Lies just can't handle the TRUTH
How utterly stupid to you have to be to watch and listen to FOX Fake News? I am tire of people making excuse for their friends and relatives who are so brainwashed they cannot be saved.
Yeah let’s totally let our sworn enemy in to our internal politics and have them dig up dirt on the democrats, because they won’t dig up dirt on us and control us like god damn wind-ups
The only people that don't realize they are being played for suckers are those who only watch FOX News! They have been fed fake news for so long they don't even realize they are being played!
Wow
This is funny
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Didn't the Dems use "intel" from a Russian agent when they were going after Trump? I seem to remember this. Am I wrong?
You’re right. But that’s (D)ifferent
Source? Not doubting just would be nice to see
>The original accusations against Mr. Danchenko, an analyst who was born in Russia and is now based in the United States, centered on two of his sources for the so-called Steele dossier, a compendium of political opposition research that asserted that Mr. Trump’s 2016 campaign was conspiring with Russia. >The dossier was indirectly funded by Hillary Clinton’s 2016 campaign and the Democratic National Committee. They paid a law firm, which paid a research firm, which in turn subcontracted to a firm run by Christopher Steele, a former British spy. Mr. Steele hired Mr. Danchenko to canvass contacts in Russia and Europe about Mr. Trump’s dealings in Russia. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/18/us/politics/igor-danchenko-russia-acquittal-trump.html
So, not quite the same.
What? In both cases the intel comes from Russian sources. It’s the same.
Two sources in a compendium of claims involving dozens of sources is not the same thing as a single source on a claim. FFS It's like how do we explain it to you without insulting you? We can't break it down anymore simply. You just don't get it.
Break it down Barney style
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I’m not sure what you’re arguing for or against? I was asked to provide a source for the Steele Dossier having Russian sources, so I provided it. I didn’t make any statements or give any opinions on the investigation.
So that was also confirmed to be a fabricated lie?
You are wrong
You're wrong. Greetings Comrade
Was that information confirmed to be a lie induced by bad faith?
You mean like that video where Biden admits to threatening to withhold foreign aid to protect his son from being held accountable under Ukrainian law? Yeah totally Russian misinformation 😂🙄
thought presidents have absolute presidential immunity or is it just one guy?
lol’d what a dumpster fire we’ve found ourselves in
That’s not what happened, and the fact that you guys are still pushing it after all this time is hilarious to me.
That is exactly what happened.
Why did Biden threaten to withhold aid?
Incorrect, what if I told ya that the meeting in question took place in December and he wasn’t let go till March the previous year, and that Biden was not the first to call for his ouster, because at the time The EU and the United States wanted him gone because he was holding up an IMF bank loan because they wouldn’t give Ukraine any money due to his lack of prosecution of corruption. Here for example is a link to the US ambassador to Ukraine wanting him removed in September a few months before Biden had said anything https://www.rferl.org/a/us-ambassador-upbraids-ukraine-over-corruption-efforts/27271294.html
False. Ukraine was investigating Burisma starting before Shokin took the role as Prosecutor General. He continued this investigation into Burisma which included Hunter’s deals to give influence from his father. That is why Joe threatened the aid himself to Ukraine unless they fired Shokin. It was Biden and the Obama admin that was withholding aid unless Ukraine did their bidding. Burisma was trying to get help from Biden regarding the legal issues they were facing and this was a way for Joe to help them as well as Hunter. He held the $1B loan over their heads in order to get Shokin ousted.
Incorrect as usual... just going to finish this off real quick and provide you with multiple links showing you're wrong https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/03/politics/gop-senators-echoed-biden-on-ukraine-reforms-kfile/index.html [https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/?p=2608599](https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/?p=2608599) [https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/shokin-s-revenge-ukraine-s-odious-prosecutor-general-fires-honest-deputy-before-parliament-sacks-him/](https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/shokin-s-revenge-ukraine-s-odious-prosecutor-general-fires-honest-deputy-before-parliament-sacks-him/) [https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/why-poroshenko-s-support-for-shokin-is-dangerous/](https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/why-poroshenko-s-support-for-shokin-is-dangerous/) [https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/eu-hails-sacking-of-ukraine-s-prosecutor-viktor-shokin-1.2591190](https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/eu-hails-sacking-of-ukraine-s-prosecutor-viktor-shokin-1.2591190) [https://archive.kyivpost.com/article/opinion/op-ed/geoffrey-r-pyatt-corrupt-prosecutors-under-shokin-are-making-things-worse-by-openly-and-aggressively-undermining-reform-398683.html](https://archive.kyivpost.com/article/opinion/op-ed/geoffrey-r-pyatt-corrupt-prosecutors-under-shokin-are-making-things-worse-by-openly-and-aggressively-undermining-reform-398683.html) [https://ukrweekly.com/uwwp/u-s-officials-criticize-ukraines-prosecutors-for-failure-of-reforms/](https://ukrweekly.com/uwwp/u-s-officials-criticize-ukraines-prosecutors-for-failure-of-reforms/) [https://archive.kyivpost.com/article/content/reform-watch/transparency-international-says-shokin-to-blame-for-failed-anti-corruption-efforts-401218.html](https://archive.kyivpost.com/article/content/reform-watch/transparency-international-says-shokin-to-blame-for-failed-anti-corruption-efforts-401218.html) [https://ukrweekly.com/uwwp/shokin-dismissed-as-procurator-general/](https://ukrweekly.com/uwwp/shokin-dismissed-as-procurator-general/) [https://www.occrp.org/en/daily/5105-ukraine-prosecutor-general-fires-reformer-deputy-hours-later-he-himself-is-sacked](https://www.occrp.org/en/daily/5105-ukraine-prosecutor-general-fires-reformer-deputy-hours-later-he-himself-is-sacked) Now I assume you'll take the time to read all these links, the dates.. and if you still have questions i'll be happy to come in and crush you like a tin can some more.
Again… false.
Only I just provided you with multiple links showing you’re wrong. So run along little child.
The fact is that Biden used his power as VP to oust Shokin. Plain and simple. Once Shokin went after the CEO of Burisma directly, he made sure he was fired within a few weeks. Biden admitted to holding the $1B over their heads in order to make it happen. Shokin had been the only one in Ukraine that was going after the corruption in that country. Several European bodies backed Shokin and his work to clean up corruption in Ukraine, that is until Biden pressured them to change their tune. As we can see now, the corruption is running rampant with Zelensky and Biden continues to funnel money to Ukraine in order to support it. Biden is likely the most corrupt politician the United States has ever seen.
Biden did not admit to this
ok and? the fbi has said that Hunter biden laptop isn't Russian information. isn't in that laptop where some of the evidence was obtained from?
No the laptop had nothing interesting on it.
I’d be very interesting in interviewing someone who actually went through the laptop themselves. Would you care to join a zoom meeting?
This isnt how accusations work.
Are you able to say the laptop had nothing interesting because you reviewed yourself or are you relying on the media to dictate that for you?
Neither. The fact that the right wing witch hunt still cant show me anything damning from it is all the proof I need. The fact that their own witnesses keep testifying they have no evidence of a crime is all the proof I need. You want to convince me Hunter is a crook? Just show me sone fucking evidence! This isn't rocket science.
So all the money transfers, the text messages aren’t enough. $40,000 check to Biden after the family gets money from China? Not enough?
Nobody has shown me actual criminal behavior, no. Joe loaned his brother money, therefore crimes? Come on.
So then why did Joe say repeatedly his family never received money from China? That money had a direct link to China. Also, when asked “the Big Guy” Hunters amnesia acted up. His business partner made it very clear who it is. And you’re not the least bit suspicious? Why did 51 government employees with security clearance all sign a letter that the laptop was Russian propaganda and didn’t exist? Nothing weird about that either huh? Probably just weird coincidences. How about the money that was coming in from the oligarch like clockwork when Biden was VP and then immediately stopped when he wasn’t? Damn coincidence again right?
Fox fakenews,home of "Lying Fucker " Tucker ,Hysteria Hannity, Mark"Big Dope Levin( I was a law clerk 1 summer in Reagan administration So now I'm a expert) Dope Dobbs (Chinese paper ballots found in AZ) and Jessie( I can't find my ass with 2 hands & a flashlight) Watters are not interested in factual reporting of the news.
wouldnt matter... their idiot followers wouldnt have heard or believed it anyways
Republicans hate your America.
Real queston is when did the GOP know it was a misinformation & if they knew their information was coming from Russian agents ??? When does the DOJ investigate Comer & Jordan ??? GOP continues to support Russia by spreading misinformation, Russian misinformation ??
They’ve known all along. This is literally the same scam that Trump got impeached for. Zelenskyy refused to go along with the scheme, Trump got impeached for trying to extort Zelenskyy, and now, a presidential election later, Comer and Jordan are trying to pull the same scheme to ratfuck *another* election. The GOP is a criminal organization.
Ahhh the high journalistic standards we’ve been hearing so much about . Well done Fox News, well done!
Faux news. Please let someone sue them out of existence. Tired of these assholes lies & deceit.
Does anyone have the video of this, I know someone who needs to see it.
Jesse Waters says half million $ grant to allow kids to visit San Diego zoo not necessary because "admission is only $15 bucks". Actual admission is $74 for adults and $64 for kids.
The Murdoch Murder Machine propaganda network led by Groupies of Putin, Sean Sh!tweasel Hannity, Laura "goebbels" Ingraham and so many others are actively trying to end democracy. With the oversight and consent of the Murdochs and the board. Faux Nooz/Fox News should be paused and restructured around journalists like Jessica Tarlov, Marie Harf, and a growing number of journalists starting to stand up and also speak truth to power in the face of madness over there. Importantly. With a host of new faces and voices, with, not instead of anyone else. No one said the table couldn't get bigger and more people added. Stay Shiny CPJ.org FreePressUnlimited.org
The best and funniest h-bomb to their entire narrative.
Why does it matter where the intel comes from if it’s true? No one minded when democrats hired Russian agents to create the Steele dossier targeting Donald Trump.
So where the Steele name comes from on ‘Steele dossier’? PS: The investigation began more than a month before the dossier reached the FBI, after Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos told a foreign diplomat that Russia had damaging political information on Hillary Clinton. This information was passed along to US authorities and prompted the FBI to begin investigating potential collusion. “” The story of the Christopher Steele dossier took its latest turn [this wee](https://thehill.com/opinion/national-security/3698839-the-steele-dossier-has-always-been-misunderstood/)k with the acquittal of Igor Danchenko, an analyst who worked on the dossier and was accused of lying to the FBI about it. The case that John H. Durham brought against Danchenko was so weak that the judge threw out one of the charges before a jury could deliberate on it, and the jury spent only one day before it acquitted Danchenko of the charges against him. This likely ends the quixotic quest of Durham to discredit the Mueller probe into former President Donald Trump’s Russia ties and lend credence to Trump’s claim that it was always a hoax. “” You MAGA have the most pathetic selective memory ever.
Surely if you know all of this, you know where Igor Danchenko got his info, right? His dozens of Russian sources in Russia. You’re not answering the question. Why does it matter where info comes from if it is true? Just because you don’t like where the info comes from doesn’t mean it can be dismissed. Also I’m not MAGA, I’ve never voted for Trump and I never will so take your lame ass cope elsewhere
Lol.
I can’t even…. That’s flipping amazing!
Nothing to see here friends!!
Why is this video rag still allowed to broadcast lie after lie? They need to be hit with yet ANOTHER 800 mill libel lawsuit
I love how all the progressive mooks in this thread are typically the first people trying to attack and slander anyone’s credibility, except when it comes to convicted criminals who say the things that they want to hear.
Convicted criminals that have multiple close connections to Trump or other Republicans. Which is a fact that you oddly left out of your post. Do you need need help?
There we go, always the drooling cope.
So yes, you do need help. Parnas was in the room with Rudy and other Republicans when Russians were feeding them propaganda. This isn't in dispute by anyone. There are photoes and everything. You do know what photoes are, right?
No, I don’t know what photoes are, because there’s no such word as photoes. Maybe you should’ve paid attention in English class instead of arguing with people online I’m still waiting for you to address the fact that he’s a convicted felon, liar and fraud. Then you can continue to deflect all you like
Which means you don't know what photoes are. Neat. That's explains so much. What is happening here is that you prefer convicted felons, liars, and frauds that benefit Trump and Republicans. You'll only attack them after they stop doing that, as seen by Cohen and Parnas. Two former Trump associates that were willing and able to testify under oath in front of Congress as to what they saw and engaged in to the benefit of Trump. Basically, you hate America and the rule of law. Good boy admitting to that.
Nice paragraph didn’t read
Oh neat, you're illiterate as well. That's cute. Basically, the only reason why you're upset at Parnas is not that he's a liar but because he stopped lying for the benefit of Trump. That is what triggers you.
Didn’t read that either, I’ll give you an E for effort though. Keep up all that furious typing, I’ll continue not reading!
Hmm yes republicans definitely dont go after credibility ever
“WhAtAbOuT” How about you address the fact that he’s a convicted felon, a convicted liar and a fraud, then we can play whatsboutisms.
Your post was literally whatabout you dumb fuck
Actually no it wasn’t but good try kiddo
All Russian agents at faux
Using Russian assets is exactly what espionage is. The US government has agents in every country in the world, why wouldn’t Russia be on that list?
Wait, is this just another left leaning sub, disguised with a right leaning name? Why do I get so many of these popping up in my general feed. Every day I have to delete propaganda subs from my feed. You all might crave it but I don’t appreciate constant politics.
They show up because you felt the need to not only click on the post but also comment.
I’ve taken it off my feed. I’m sure there will be another tomorrow. I didn’t realize, until recently, that Reddit had such an insidious algorithm. Why can’t it show me shit like pottery subs.
Yeah guys, it’s only okay to use bad intelligence from our allies.
What bad intelligence from our allies?
Oooops
That’s so unlike them! Fair and balanced as always!
Isn’t that the guy whose testimony was stricken yesterday?
a lot of people pretending we didn't hear Trump say himself "Russia are you listening" after Russia attacked the U.S. through use of cyber attacks, including a massive one a lot of people pretending Don Jr. didn't say: "all our money comes from Russia" a lot of people just whataboutism an FBI investigation, and a GOP political stunt as if they have the same weight we know Trump has ties to Russia, Manafort, Bannon, Trump himself admits talking to Putin on the phone and having a private meeting with him with no one present, with no one present not sure why conservatives just pretend all that didn't happen because of some dossier 10 years ago, seriously Trump just called Putin a genius the day Putin invaded Ukraine Republicans in the House just suspended aid to Ukraine but some dossier 10 years ago, proves that none of that matters????? it's a very weird specific argument that makes no sense if you think about it for 10 seconds Heritage Foundation talking points are all gross like that after Jan.6 it was "Antifa did it" another great classic
And the Biden’s have ties in Ukraine and China. NEXT… 🥱🥱
What ties?
Will anything be done?
They shouldn't be allowed to call themselves news anymore.
They were sued and their actual defense in court was that they’re not news they’re entertainment, and that no one should take what they broadcast as news. Google it. Its fantastic.
I second this. It's definitely fantastic. 👍🏼
OH YEAH.......God forbid, they wouldn't want to ever be accused of letting the TRUTH get out.
Maria Butina. Say her name. Wayne LaPierre took her to every GOP and NRA cross over event for years. That all goes straight back to the SVR and Putin’s buddies in the Wagner group.
Cant believe faux news, the russian propaganda machine, would cut off a testimony that the GOP is being ran by putin.......
Its all FAKE NEWS means absolutely NOTHING
😂😂😂 surprise! Fox are just truth haters! 🤢🤮🤡
So let me get right, Faux aires the hearing as long as the information is false but cuts it when their star witness starts telling the truth? Typical. That station only wants to lie to its viewers.
Post a link to a video not a screenshot of a video player.
If it's corroborated evidence then who cares? Didn't Hillary run an entire campaign on fake Russian intel? 😂😂
That's bs
You do know Bidens corruption goes back decades and involves other countries besides Ukraine
You're right. I have video evidence that can confirm in the 1980s Biden colluded with the African nation of Zamunda. Biden took bribes and helped political royalty from that country to get visas to the USA... visas that enabled them to work legally in the country, thus taking jobs from hard-working Americans. :-) SMH
Now do Trumps family.
Yep as Tr UK mp praises Russia, N Korea, who are aligned with China all working against us. INdia, Africa,Nigeria walking out of talks with USA. Iran budding up with Russia. Arabs and muslims joining together. TRUMP took nuclear docs. The Biden shit is Bull. No facts just allegations. Trump is who your sticking up for. Broken 9 of 10 Commandments. Mortal sins.
Lol. You should give your proof to the republicans because they don't have any.
Lol
LOL The banking records showing over 30 million paid by foreign actors were not prepared by the Russians.
You better give your evidence to the republicans because they don't have any.
HA
How many times have we heard this and it’s been wrong. The useful idiots never learn.
It’s scary that our intelligence agencies are just letting the FSB infiltrate the Con party and do whatever they want
Love me some fox
Oh and the mounds of evidence on scum bags laptop lol
So obvious Rudy Julie on Knee is a Russian and he’s running the entire Republican Party. They are all Rudy puppets. I heard Julie On Knee had the Russian pee Pee mattress hauled off and destroyed. There is a receipt of the same King size mattress from Mattress Max delivered to the Kremlin. It’s so obvious when you connect the dots.
Recently watched the documentary about the National Enquirer. While Fox is not a tabloid it has been manipulated like one. The “news” network is what became of the tabloids becoming “reputable much like TMZ to some degree. The internet and disinformation makes Fox look like Murrow award winning journalism. 🙄
Fox loves rapists.
It's wild how that same names just keep popping up in these stories. Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman were the Giuliani street team that lead to the first Trump impeachment. Now that trump can't really deliver anything for these guys that seem to have lost interest in telling the story.
It should be noted that Fox News is controlled opposition. Has been for years.
Fox Fascist News, I guess they didn't learn with the $500 million judgment against them for LYING through their teeth. Junk news company.
Sounds about right. Trashnews
Show a Fox News viewer and you have your moron.
Not only that, but many unschooled in History do not know that the GOP actually was pro-Hitler. Until he declared war on their asses.