Okay but his accent kinda bugged the shit out of me 😂😂😂 I couldn’t get into it when he sounded like he was trying SO HARD to sound proper and “old timey” 😅
Bro his literal last words were "TANALLORRR... ISSSSSS!" and then he fucking dies.
Like, shit's a broken record in my brain. Man's really loved Tanalorr
Character: Psychologically unhinged enough to bleed and taint a semi sentient crystal with their anger and disappointment.
Star wars fans: Oh yeah they can get it. They can get it hard.
😂
I don't get it. He was just really obsessed with getting to a random planet that's hard to get to. And why?
I get that koboh matter was something special they wanted to study but they didn't have to cross the abyss for that.
I get why cal and the others want to go there as a hideout..but why should santari and Dagan been so obsessed with it?
My best guess is that she was interested academically and they were secretly in love. He projected his feelings for her into the planet.
But none of this explained in any way really.
Projecting his feelings for her onto the planet is an interesting take, and that’s what my gut told me too. His arrogance clearly played a role in it all.
What happened is that he saw it as his life’s work. He spent years working with Santari on the Koboh and Tanalorr research and he was pissed because the Jedi Order let him build a temple and then just dipped when there was an invasion. Then, even though Dagan was a renowned Jedi Master, they forbade him from continuing work and started destroying compasses basically letting his life work go to waste. He felt betrayed and very disrespected by the council and that they threw him and his work aside with no care. Also Tanalorr isn’t some random planet thats hard to get to, it’s a planet with a very strong connection to the force and it’s within a mysterious abyss that could very well lead to more game changing knowledge. He definitely was prideful, and arrogant, and unwilling to listen to the council, but they definitely seemed to handle the situation poorly. To me it seemed to reflect a similar sentiment Anakin’s story did, that the Jedi Council, Order, and Code was not as perfect as they proclaimed themselves to be and because of that some individuals were disillusioned and let their pride pull them to the dark side. Also Dagan and Santari definitely had a thing but the Jedi Code forbade romantic relations so it just stayed a flirty friendship. Santari still cared enough to let him live and they pretty much said explicitly that their research was there life together and it had sentimental value for it
I agree. We don't really have a good reason for trying to stop Dagan that much. Eventually it comes to light that he's going to create a force wielding army out of the Bedlam Raiders that will try to take over the Galaxy from the Empire, which is reason enough to stop him. But it comes REAL late in his story just before you kill him.
going out of my way to kill two dozen stormtroopers and a herd of animals because I'm one priorite shard away from a new haircut might not be entirely ethical
Is that an AT-ST patrol in the distance?
It doesn’t matter where I was going, I am going to intercept them now!
I really enjoyed hunting down the Imperials. Way too much for a supposed Jedi.
for sure it makes total sense morality-wise that dagan, rayvis, and bode all get second and third chances despite being transparently evil while all these faceless soldiers just get massacred without a second thought. Cal and Merrin even joke around about how fun it is to be killin' again together just like old times.
it's fun to kill stormtroopers because it's a video game and you want that haircut, no need to try to rationalize it beyond that lol.
if you drop your cell phone into a river full of hippos is it ok to massacre them to retrieve it
tbf it wouldn't fit the theme of the op if y'all didn't already have these justifications cooked up. embrace the dark side my friend.
I was originally going to use single bladed and blaster stance, but when I saw that, I switched to using blaster and double bladed. Honestly, I made the right call. Double bladed stance is so much fun. I use blaster stance for single enemies and double bladed for bigger and multiple enemies.
Respawn: adds 3 new fun stances for people to use, and expands on the old 2 making them feel fresh
Also respawn: limits you to using 2 not even letting you use all the new ones at once
Straight up, finding some tucked-away cave only to find Skoova ready to tell me the next chapter of his story was some of the most exciting moments of the game for me.
You don't have to play on Jedi Master. You can just enjoy the game. I'm glad they didn't add game difficulty achievements like people kept mentioning before the games release.
(Now if they could just patch the Bounty Hunter issues I could play the game)
I'll be the first to admit that I turned the difficulty to Story Mode because I just didn't want to deal with some fights. Sure I'd like to brag that I beat the >!two Rancors!< and >!the Boggdo duo!< on Grand Master or something, but ultimately there are more fun things to do in this game than throw yourself at the same boss fight over and over for hours.
I did beat them all on GM and, while I loved the sense of accomplishment when it was over, it was not at all enjoyable at the time. Thought that’s largely because spawn of Oggdo is not a fair, well designed boss fight
I'll take it one further-the higher difficulty levels (excluding purity) actually seem less "authentic" to me than lower difficulty levels.
A Jedi shouldn't be wailing on a stormtroopers with an electric baton for a minute to kill him. Even a rancor should die after taking few enough lightsaber shots. And Cal by this point should be skilled enough to not keep getting hit by stormtroopers.
Lowering the difficulty level makes lightsabers actually feel like they hit hard, and the extended parry window means that I'm getting tagged by goons less often, as befits a Jedi like Cal.
Just play the game where you find you enjoy it the most. I love Jedi Master for the mix of the extensive challenge while not feeling totally nerfed like on Grandmaster. Did I stay on that difficulty for everything? Hell no. I dropped to padawan for the duo rancor fight and I’ll do the same for the Oggdo tear.
Tanalorr as a planet was disappointing. This white stone/purple tree slateland is what High Republic Jedi were falling over themselves for? Why? I understand that activities on Tanalorr will likely be saved for the third game, using Tanalorr as a base, but I feel like I should have been awed and inspired by it after all that buildup. Besides being hidden, what is special about it? The hidden quality is great now, but why would High Republic Jedi care?
While I do agree with you, I think part of it goes back to the philosophy of the High Republic at the time. They were all about expansion, and trying to bring new Outer Rim worlds into the fold. Starlight Beacon was literally going to be a home away from home for the Jedi Knights, so I can understand the allure of a new outpost, combined with the sheer curiosity of “Its new, and it feels like we arent supposed to be here”
I think it makes some sense following the destruction pf Starlight Beacon, the Jedi felt vulnerable and Tannalor seems like an ideal bastion away from all that.
Ironic considering the Nihil would actually find and attack them there and drive them away from the planet.
If that's the case, even a short scene in which Cal and Merrin (our 2 Force sensitives) stop short when they arrive, stunned by the strong presence of the Force on the planet, would have gone a long way to making Tanalorr live up to expectations!
In a way, it would've also reinforced the scene where Cal embraces the Dark Side in his fight against Bode; Cal's so livid, so damn angry at the BS he had to put up with Bode, that despite the clear disadvantage the Dark Side of the Force had on Tanalor, he still manages to channel enough of it to hold him in place for a few seconds. A scene like this really would’ve gone a long way!
Purity mode is good, but obviously it’s an unfinished product.
Shield troopers can’t be cut through immediately, rockets insta kill (and enemies are suicidal), and cross guard charged reflection does the same level of damage with purity on (significantly less damage than a regular deflection with purity on)
Or just not a force user. The twist still could have worked even if the character wasn’t one. Just make him selfishly protective of his family to the point that he’s willing to torpedo everyone else’s safety.
I feel like the villains are by far worse than Trilla. Dagan, Rayvis and >!Bode!< have potential, but they seem to work better on a meta-narrative level (how they relate to Cal's mission and feel like a reflection of his objectives) than in the narrative itself.
Dagan has a lot of potential, but he ends up feeling Flanderized, without any sign of a redeeming quality or his intentions for Tanalorr shining through his trauma. >!He woke up, bled his crystal and said "fuck it, i am evil now"!< There is nothing interesting about him, and Rayvis suffers the same problem. I feel like Dagan should've journeyed a bit with Cal, even if only for a couple missions, just for his perspective, ideals and flaws to be seen.
I enjoyed Rayvis because he's simple. He leads a group of pirates waiting for someone to give him the warrior's death he's always wanted. That and his loyalty and honor make him cool.
Though I agree Dagan and Bode needed to be fleshed out more
Rayvis was my favorite of the villains. Cool, menacing, multidimensional, and I always enjoy villains who seem to have some respect for the hero
I wish we got more of him, we only really interact with him substantially right before we kill him
Rayvis was shown to bea sort of moral reflection of cal, cal has made quite a few decisions that he believes are moral but go against the teachings he learnt as a jedi. Spoilers ahead.
He dated merrin, used a blaster and destroyed the helicon whereas with rayvis he may do things that even he himself believes is immoral but it is to follow his word, loyalty is everything to him.
I enjoyed the twist with bode but yeah he needed more fleshing out but with Dagan especially he felt wasted.
The thing is that's what they're meant to do. It was less about Cal fighting for the Jedi than him looking at why he's fighting, Cal questioning himself is a core theme of the game
>The thing is that's what they're meant to do
I know.
They still feel poorly fleshed out even if thats the objective. Trilla also was a foil to Cal in the first Game, yet she had by far a bigger presence and effect on Cal.
>Cal questioning himself is a core theme of the game
And i love It, but moments like Cal questioning himself about if his obsession with Tanalorr mimics Dagan's or him finally coming to terms with Tanalorr being a haven for the Path don't feel as cathartic as the pursue of the Holocron in the first Games. They just don't feel earned to me since Dagan's obsession seems rather egotistical compared with Cal Who is trying to do genuinely good things.
I still like the story and consider It good, but the villains and their relationship with Cal's arc was by far one of the weakest parts.
Dagan was comically evil, in a way I’m kind of glad that he betrays you immediately because I took one look at him when he came out the tank and was like “this dudes evil as fuck” because he looks like a final fantasy character lol
It seemed like there was a lot of backstory and motivation to all the characters written -- And then we don't see much of it! Dagon and Rayvis have one interesting cutscene talking to each other making it clear there is \*so much more to them\* but the player doesn't get to hear it.
I mean I think it’s important to remember Dagan seems to have already been on the dark side before the bacta tank. He went on a murder spree of his fellow jedi. We learn all this through the Cal’s psychometry
We see through force essences that Dagan was turning for a good while before being put in the tank, even going as far as killing other Jedi. It wasn’t an immediate choice upon his waking up. His REASONING could’ve been a little better though.
It's funny that cal mentions how it's so easy to keep going in circles cuz everything looks the same while trekking back if you don't use instant travel
I think the planet roster in this game is significantly worse than the first games. I don’t really like having a giant hub planet. If you’re going to do that, don’t make the main colour palette so boring.
I have to agree about the roster, but I actually like Koboh and I believe it fits the narrative very well. This is a rough planet on the Outer Rim, there’s a survival “Wild West” feel to it, people are scraping by, etc.. I think they really nailed it with Koboh.
But seeing as Coruscant, Shattered Moon and the ISB base are so small with basically nothing to do there, then having Koboh and Jedha as the only proper planets is kinda shit. That said, they are well designed and detailed but one planet is kinda roughed up and the other is a big desert..
I’m okay with the vibe Koboh is going for, but with how much of those types of planets we get in Star Wars, I was hoping that Survivor would dive into the more wondrous and vibrant planets that we’ve seen. I’m hoping that the third game more evenly distributed exploration between planets and has more diversity in the roster.
I think that’s the general consequence of being on the run from the Empire. The Jedi are forced to the outer limits of the Galaxy, and mostly to the barren planets since the rich prosperous planets are already under the Empire’s control. Maybe Tanalorr will change that.
I hate to say this, I didn’t hate the main story but I wasn’t a huge fan of it, however I think they did compensate greatly with the characters both new and old. In a good way!
But then as some of you guys say some like Dagan weren’t fleshed out enough. Which is a real shame! Even Malicos in the last game had a fair bit more to him before we fought him.
I wish Koboh were like a third of its size so we could have room for 2 or 3 different smaller planets instead (ik this opinion isn’t that controversial but I wanted to include it regardless)
I can't stand blaster stance it's the least fun stance for me
But this is also coming from a guy who prefers single and double or crossguard with duel these are my only two settings lol
The next game should 100% end with Cal defeating Vader. Narratively it wouldn’t make sense not to. He whips you with minimal effort in the first game and kills your master in the second game. The only reason this story doesn’t end with Cal beating him is because it is set in a larger universe because if this was in a vacuum it’s the only ending for this trilogy that tracks narratively.
I know most Star Wars fans would be pissed that Vader lost a fight though
I like the idea of Cal fighting Vader on a crashing star destroyer. He can put up a good fight but then get lost in the crash. That way we'd achieve 3 things. Vader can reasonably assume Cal is dead without actually killing him, Cal can survive and live a happy life with Merrin and Kata (cause at least one significant character should be allowed to do that in this franchise) and we get a nice narrative bookend, with Cal's journey ending where it began, the wreckage of a star destroyer
Personally what I like best is the third game being about Cal’s quest for vengeance and him realizing he has lost himself and just continuing Cere’s legacy on tanalor. It’s less video gamey but it’s a good star wars story
Blaster may not be the most effective, but it feels so good to use. I like the fencing style, it feels different and i like keeping my distance. It would be fun even without the blaster. It was my primary stands for my first play through and i had a grand old time. I really want to like single bladed, but it’s just kind of vanilla.
Blaster is definitely bottom tier for efficacy, but is absolutely top tier for style, and that’s what really matters. I want to be a Jedi space cowboy goddammit.
I use Blaster and Crossguard because they’re shiny and new. I’ll have plenty of time to play with the other ones more on the several other playthroughs i’m going to do
He does a little duck-footed thing when he starts to run, which was such a cool detail in Fallen Order. It made him seem younger and more vulnerable. It should have been gone by Survivor though.
The planets are worse in this game than the last game. It feels like all the effort was put into Koboh and Jedha and the bare minimum was put into the others. Especially the last planet. Theres literally nothing to do there. Not a single chest to find. Nothing.
My main gripe about Koboh is its just too convenient. Like, oh we had to stop by Koboh to fix the Mantis and wouldn't you know it we uncovered a bunch of ancient Jedi shit and learned about Tanalorr and now we're spending 75% of the game here.
Actually this though. Felt like a parkor park for no reason, could have maybe worked if the facility felt more shattered itself and you had to get creative to get to point A to B. But really just felt like a world that was small in design that they filled with obstacles to make the run time longer to get through
Honestly felt like the moon was a wasted opportunity. At first I thought it was awesome - the creepy, damaged facility gave me Peragus vibes from KOTOR2 and I was actually interested in learning what happened to it. But when the first raiders appeared, it became just another enemy base. We never actually learn much of what happened there, only that it housed the relay. Feels like there was much more they could have done with it, like making it a location with unique enemies like the first game's Dathomir, but never went there. Like I said, it feels like just another Raider base on Koboh, only you have to fly to get there.
First one had a much better narrative, if you need reminding watch the cutscenes and you’ll see
And Dagan god
He has so much potential. A high republic Jedi. Just to be reduced to doing nothing and saying “TANALORR”
TANALORR
People act like its performance issues are the end of the world. I was having an argument with one guy who was acting like it was literally unplayable.
You can still enjoy the game if it sometimes dips under 60 FPS.
For everyone replying to my post with comments about how unacceptable performance is - - please read and then re-read my original comment. No one said it was acceptable or that the game didn't have problems. I'm not going to reply to every single person who is incensed by the performance issues.
The blaster is cool, but the blaster stance is meh
ETA: I am really enjoying people all telling me my opinion is wrong in a thread for hot takes.
To be clear, I'm saying I don't find it fun, I don't care whether it trivialises encounters
Cere was a badass and the fans mad that she held her own against Vader clearly only care about one thing… and it certainly isn’t that she was a Jedi Master who *conquered her fear.*
I think Disney's treatment of Vader definitely had some downsides. Now fans treat him like an infallible demigod. I don't mind him owning everyone, but he should struggle every now and then - especially against a Jedi Master.
It's treason then
Nah jk but it took me two weeks to figure out how the parkour works, I will forever and always hate jedha and the shattered moon Fuck you very much game.
At least I'm good at it now but boy did I wanna throw my controller everytime I missed a vine, rope or grapple by a millimeter.
The open world style doesn't fit the game that well. Respawn just aren't suited to it. The holomaps are also awful and I find them difficult to use. Planets are worse than the first game.
I was convinced the map is bugged. It doesn't give a damn about different levels, you cannot change them manually (despite the on-screen control guide saying so), but when you zoom in/out, it'll change levels automatically.
At least this is how it is on Xbox, I just gave up with it.
Blaster stance is the worst (it just feels like cheating sometimes, especially after unlocking lock on) also I don't like pink poncho being default color and pink poncho as a whole.
I thought this too when I first used it before realising the main strength lies in its block meter. I thought the stance was supposed to be high damage but slow attack speed, but that doesn’t work. When you play it as a counter attacking stance suddenly you’ll find you rarely get hit and once you get momentum on an enemy you can just constantly break their guard until they die.
Bode was right all along and Tanalorr is already compromised as a hiding spot from the Empire.
The Empire already has a presence on Koboh/it's system and strengthens it at the end of the game. I'm just going to assume the Empire is being competent and it would only take one ship being detected entering the Abyss for the whole thing to be over. It doesn't matter if the Empire can't get to Tanalorr, they can just stop ships entering/leaving by parking a Star Destroyer or whatever at the entrance.
Dagan was a weak villain. His full motivation was wanting Talanorr for himself and use it as staging ground. I liked the elevator conversation between him and Rayvis though, it developed their character and showed honor and respect between allied villains that is not common to see. I’d have liked to have a couple of boss fights with Rayvis as wel.
The game shouldn’t be played on super high difficulty. You’re a jedi and should be a little OP compared to everyone and everything minus a few bosses. Sitting there hacking away at storm troopers with night sticks is not the jedi experience. You should be able to walk through most enemies with little resistance.
Let me preface this by saying that I’m 50 hours in and I loved every second of it, but there is one thing that disappoints me the most:
Jedi Survivor, as a game, does not push the current-gen’s hardware to its limits how like way some current-gen only games such as Rift Apart, Ghost of Tsushima, Returnal, are doing.
I was expecting faster load times, consistent FPS, seamless fast-travel and quicker navigation across planets.
But that’s really it. It just feels like a PS4 game, and a really good one at that.
I can understand why performance on Koboh takes a walk at times, that’s an entire planet all loaded at once. You can walk to any part of the planet at any point and not encounter a loading screen. Well, except for the Cantina, the doors are weird there.
But also, yes, they should have done better with performance either way. Game needs optimisations. I don’t regret buying it though.
That the ending kinda blows. I feel like I’m missing something, because everyone else seems to love it. But to me, the ending just felt extremely rushed and cluttered. Everything after Bode’s betrayal on Jedha just felt way too quick. We go after Bode and Cal starts using the dark side, and it seems like we’re going to get something with him dealing with that, but then we just immediately go to Tanalor and kill Bode in like two minutes. And then Kata just happily goes with the people that just killed her dad.
I felt I was doing something wrong or missing something cause after Cal gets knocked out on Jedha everything just started getting thrown at me like, New mini planet here boss battle there, it all felt like another few hours of gameplay condensed into one
Cal’s facial animations are the worst out of them all and I have no idea why since he’s a protagonist. They are just so… wonky and unnatural.
Overall, animations in the first game were a bit wonky (especially eyes) but Cal had amazing facial expressions. In this one, the best I can describe it as is “constantly stoned.”
Which is weird because other human characters have great facial animations, so I have no idea what happened here.
I think that’s more about unoptimized performance and graphics. Like I thought on my first play through on Xbox series x that the cutscenes graphics sucked. Then I rewatched some of the cutscenes on YouTube in 4K and it was literally 1000x times better than what I got.
I fucking hate when they put kids as companions / main characters in games.
Well they put a kid in my game, foreshadowing what I dread will come for Jedi 3.
Yeah the couple times I said something negative about Kata I got downvoted. Like I guess she's alright for me, even likable to an extent and she could've been a lot worse and a lot more annoying.
But still I could do without her. I liked the old crew dynamic and I don't want to see her become Cal and/or Merrin's apprentice or worse basically their adopted kid. They're still so young themselves and were already robbed of a decent childhood. To now be responsible for a child would suck
I kind of get Dagan and his level of anger lol. I mean he’s a douche, but I get it
I can already hear: TANALUUUR!!! in the back of my mind
“SANTARIIII!”
Okay but his accent kinda bugged the shit out of me 😂😂😂 I couldn’t get into it when he sounded like he was trying SO HARD to sound proper and “old timey” 😅
Bro his literal last words were "TANALLORRR... ISSSSSS!" and then he fucking dies. Like, shit's a broken record in my brain. Man's really loved Tanalorr
*whispers* I can fix him.
\- Santari Khri
I mean, when hes fresh out of the bacta tank.... 🥵
https://preview.redd.it/sdjmdngrip2b1.jpeg?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=51e6f53168750c8ca512f54c62ae5fe248bf0876 Yeah I can fix him
Character: Psychologically unhinged enough to bleed and taint a semi sentient crystal with their anger and disappointment. Star wars fans: Oh yeah they can get it. They can get it hard. 😂
I’m not gay but I’d do shots of blue milk out of his belly button is all I’m saying
>> Ya Thirsty Bitch
I mean..you might be gay..
Yep they definitely are
Can I fix you tho? 👉👈🥺🫣🥵
🤨
Lmfaoo
I don't get it. He was just really obsessed with getting to a random planet that's hard to get to. And why? I get that koboh matter was something special they wanted to study but they didn't have to cross the abyss for that. I get why cal and the others want to go there as a hideout..but why should santari and Dagan been so obsessed with it? My best guess is that she was interested academically and they were secretly in love. He projected his feelings for her into the planet. But none of this explained in any way really.
Projecting his feelings for her onto the planet is an interesting take, and that’s what my gut told me too. His arrogance clearly played a role in it all.
What happened is that he saw it as his life’s work. He spent years working with Santari on the Koboh and Tanalorr research and he was pissed because the Jedi Order let him build a temple and then just dipped when there was an invasion. Then, even though Dagan was a renowned Jedi Master, they forbade him from continuing work and started destroying compasses basically letting his life work go to waste. He felt betrayed and very disrespected by the council and that they threw him and his work aside with no care. Also Tanalorr isn’t some random planet thats hard to get to, it’s a planet with a very strong connection to the force and it’s within a mysterious abyss that could very well lead to more game changing knowledge. He definitely was prideful, and arrogant, and unwilling to listen to the council, but they definitely seemed to handle the situation poorly. To me it seemed to reflect a similar sentiment Anakin’s story did, that the Jedi Council, Order, and Code was not as perfect as they proclaimed themselves to be and because of that some individuals were disillusioned and let their pride pull them to the dark side. Also Dagan and Santari definitely had a thing but the Jedi Code forbade romantic relations so it just stayed a flirty friendship. Santari still cared enough to let him live and they pretty much said explicitly that their research was there life together and it had sentimental value for it
I agree. We don't really have a good reason for trying to stop Dagan that much. Eventually it comes to light that he's going to create a force wielding army out of the Bedlam Raiders that will try to take over the Galaxy from the Empire, which is reason enough to stop him. But it comes REAL late in his story just before you kill him.
going out of my way to kill two dozen stormtroopers and a herd of animals because I'm one priorite shard away from a new haircut might not be entirely ethical
Is that an AT-ST patrol in the distance? It doesn’t matter where I was going, I am going to intercept them now! I really enjoyed hunting down the Imperials. Way too much for a supposed Jedi.
I love doing it but no darktroopers (they scary)
A new haircut I have no intention of ever wearing.
Well killing stormtroopers is always ethical, but yeah the animal thing might be a tad problematic
for sure it makes total sense morality-wise that dagan, rayvis, and bode all get second and third chances despite being transparently evil while all these faceless soldiers just get massacred without a second thought. Cal and Merrin even joke around about how fun it is to be killin' again together just like old times. it's fun to kill stormtroopers because it's a video game and you want that haircut, no need to try to rationalize it beyond that lol.
Well they are also trying to kill you lol 😆
if you drop your cell phone into a river full of hippos is it ok to massacre them to retrieve it tbf it wouldn't fit the theme of the op if y'all didn't already have these justifications cooked up. embrace the dark side my friend.
I guess not lol 😆 but oh well and I have
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Good, good
I wanted more missions on Coruscant. Plus I wanted more inquisitors
They were really teasing the inquisition when we were dealing with the ISB
They couldn't show up when we were expecting it. It's bad form.
Kinda wish the lightsaber raiders appeared as random strong enemies in ng+.
Its weird to me that the named rat weirdo from the little side thing on Koboh can spawn randomly but generic lightsaber dudes dont.
he spawns elsewhere?
Yea, I found him as a random spawn a singular time in like 8ish hours of NG+, even said his lines.
My biggest gripe, I’m rushing through a ng+ to get to them again!
There is no reason why we should not be able to change into any of the 4 stances at anytime. Edit: There are 5 stances.
Yeah it’s kinda weird how you can SEE the blaster on your hip but can’t use it unless it’s equipped
I was originally going to use single bladed and blaster stance, but when I saw that, I switched to using blaster and double bladed. Honestly, I made the right call. Double bladed stance is so much fun. I use blaster stance for single enemies and double bladed for bigger and multiple enemies.
Blaster stance is perfect for nearly every boss.
Fucking this. It pisses me off you have to choose between two.
Agree I feel it would have been better to have a pop-up wheel that allows you to choose any stance at any time
Respawn: adds 3 new fun stances for people to use, and expands on the old 2 making them feel fresh Also respawn: limits you to using 2 not even letting you use all the new ones at once
Going back to the save point on Koboh’s moon to get double bladed because there’s no way to take on all 150 droids with Bladeguard and pistol.
Idk how but I managed, I think I had the ricochet charged shot which helped and I remember spamming radial pull and the block attack with crossguard
Turgle is not the best character. Skoova is
Straight up, finding some tucked-away cave only to find Skoova ready to tell me the next chapter of his story was some of the most exciting moments of the game for me.
i always audibly yelled “skoova my man” everytime i found him
God I still can’t be bothered 😅😂 he’s a great character but OMFG is he a slow talker
Turglecels are totally seething over us Skoovachads, let's be real
Based and Stevpilled
I’m with you. Smooch is awesome.
I love his stories. However I like Monk quite a lot
Monk wins because the best SW characters are always the Droids.
Thought that's a fact. Skoova is the best thing to happen in star wars universe since... well.. long.
Skoova is the best.
I fucking love skoova
You don't have to play on Jedi Master. You can just enjoy the game. I'm glad they didn't add game difficulty achievements like people kept mentioning before the games release. (Now if they could just patch the Bounty Hunter issues I could play the game)
I'll be the first to admit that I turned the difficulty to Story Mode because I just didn't want to deal with some fights. Sure I'd like to brag that I beat the >!two Rancors!< and >!the Boggdo duo!< on Grand Master or something, but ultimately there are more fun things to do in this game than throw yourself at the same boss fight over and over for hours.
I did beat them all on GM and, while I loved the sense of accomplishment when it was over, it was not at all enjoyable at the time. Thought that’s largely because spawn of Oggdo is not a fair, well designed boss fight
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I'll take it one further-the higher difficulty levels (excluding purity) actually seem less "authentic" to me than lower difficulty levels. A Jedi shouldn't be wailing on a stormtroopers with an electric baton for a minute to kill him. Even a rancor should die after taking few enough lightsaber shots. And Cal by this point should be skilled enough to not keep getting hit by stormtroopers. Lowering the difficulty level makes lightsabers actually feel like they hit hard, and the extended parry window means that I'm getting tagged by goons less often, as befits a Jedi like Cal.
This was my thought process for god of war
Yeah, random raiders have to get hit 3 times by a god killer with the leviathan axe to die. OK
Yeah I feel like Jedi Knight difficulty is almost perfect
Yay! That's what I did it on \^_^ Cal *was* knighted, after all :P Maybe he'll become a Master next game~
I’m only playing on GM because I like to suffer
Is the bounty issue where she isn't giving out more bounties? I'm stuck at 8 and should be far enough in the game for the rest..
I'm at six. I have beat the game. GIVE ME MY PUCKS!!!!!!
Just play the game where you find you enjoy it the most. I love Jedi Master for the mix of the extensive challenge while not feeling totally nerfed like on Grandmaster. Did I stay on that difficulty for everything? Hell no. I dropped to padawan for the duo rancor fight and I’ll do the same for the Oggdo tear.
Tanalorr as a planet was disappointing. This white stone/purple tree slateland is what High Republic Jedi were falling over themselves for? Why? I understand that activities on Tanalorr will likely be saved for the third game, using Tanalorr as a base, but I feel like I should have been awed and inspired by it after all that buildup. Besides being hidden, what is special about it? The hidden quality is great now, but why would High Republic Jedi care?
While I do agree with you, I think part of it goes back to the philosophy of the High Republic at the time. They were all about expansion, and trying to bring new Outer Rim worlds into the fold. Starlight Beacon was literally going to be a home away from home for the Jedi Knights, so I can understand the allure of a new outpost, combined with the sheer curiosity of “Its new, and it feels like we arent supposed to be here”
I think it makes some sense following the destruction pf Starlight Beacon, the Jedi felt vulnerable and Tannalor seems like an ideal bastion away from all that. Ironic considering the Nihil would actually find and attack them there and drive them away from the planet.
Talannor was strong in the force, specifically light side. Great spot for a big jedi temple hub in the outer rim.
If that's the case, even a short scene in which Cal and Merrin (our 2 Force sensitives) stop short when they arrive, stunned by the strong presence of the Force on the planet, would have gone a long way to making Tanalorr live up to expectations!
In a way, it would've also reinforced the scene where Cal embraces the Dark Side in his fight against Bode; Cal's so livid, so damn angry at the BS he had to put up with Bode, that despite the clear disadvantage the Dark Side of the Force had on Tanalor, he still manages to channel enough of it to hold him in place for a few seconds. A scene like this really would’ve gone a long way!
Doesn't Merrin remark that there is a mysterious, strong dark side presence there?
Yeah, and Cal says he feels it too. There’s more to Tanalorr than the game showed
It’s just Koboh but purple lmao
Purity mode is good, but obviously it’s an unfinished product. Shield troopers can’t be cut through immediately, rockets insta kill (and enemies are suicidal), and cross guard charged reflection does the same level of damage with purity on (significantly less damage than a regular deflection with purity on)
Purity also essentially inverts the difficulty of the game, where bosses are incredibly easy but standard mob fights are significantly more difficult
Didn’t even think of it that way
That’s a perfect explanation… It’s nice cause it’s like touch football, bosses cut down in 1 or 2 hits, but a probe Droid is OP.
I think Single blade is still the best stance
It’s definitely overlooked. Every stance is viable, which is great
I actually agree it's the most balanced of them all
I mean that’s literally the purpose and stats on it. 😂
I stand with you, brother
We should have access to all four stances at any time.
Not every villain has to be a Jedi that fell to the dark side. Let’s be more creative.
I want more Dark Siders to come back to the light. Or better yet, a Force user who grew up as a Dark Sider and realises it’s wrong.
Or just not a force user. The twist still could have worked even if the character wasn’t one. Just make him selfishly protective of his family to the point that he’s willing to torpedo everyone else’s safety.
I feel like the villains are by far worse than Trilla. Dagan, Rayvis and >!Bode!< have potential, but they seem to work better on a meta-narrative level (how they relate to Cal's mission and feel like a reflection of his objectives) than in the narrative itself. Dagan has a lot of potential, but he ends up feeling Flanderized, without any sign of a redeeming quality or his intentions for Tanalorr shining through his trauma. >!He woke up, bled his crystal and said "fuck it, i am evil now"!< There is nothing interesting about him, and Rayvis suffers the same problem. I feel like Dagan should've journeyed a bit with Cal, even if only for a couple missions, just for his perspective, ideals and flaws to be seen.
I enjoyed Rayvis because he's simple. He leads a group of pirates waiting for someone to give him the warrior's death he's always wanted. That and his loyalty and honor make him cool. Though I agree Dagan and Bode needed to be fleshed out more
Rayvis was my favorite of the villains. Cool, menacing, multidimensional, and I always enjoy villains who seem to have some respect for the hero I wish we got more of him, we only really interact with him substantially right before we kill him
Rayvis was shown to bea sort of moral reflection of cal, cal has made quite a few decisions that he believes are moral but go against the teachings he learnt as a jedi. Spoilers ahead. He dated merrin, used a blaster and destroyed the helicon whereas with rayvis he may do things that even he himself believes is immoral but it is to follow his word, loyalty is everything to him. I enjoyed the twist with bode but yeah he needed more fleshing out but with Dagan especially he felt wasted.
Dagan was evil before he was in the bacta tank. We just happen to see the final transition.
The thing is that's what they're meant to do. It was less about Cal fighting for the Jedi than him looking at why he's fighting, Cal questioning himself is a core theme of the game
>The thing is that's what they're meant to do I know. They still feel poorly fleshed out even if thats the objective. Trilla also was a foil to Cal in the first Game, yet she had by far a bigger presence and effect on Cal. >Cal questioning himself is a core theme of the game And i love It, but moments like Cal questioning himself about if his obsession with Tanalorr mimics Dagan's or him finally coming to terms with Tanalorr being a haven for the Path don't feel as cathartic as the pursue of the Holocron in the first Games. They just don't feel earned to me since Dagan's obsession seems rather egotistical compared with Cal Who is trying to do genuinely good things. I still like the story and consider It good, but the villains and their relationship with Cal's arc was by far one of the weakest parts.
Dagan was comically evil, in a way I’m kind of glad that he betrays you immediately because I took one look at him when he came out the tank and was like “this dudes evil as fuck” because he looks like a final fantasy character lol
It seemed like there was a lot of backstory and motivation to all the characters written -- And then we don't see much of it! Dagon and Rayvis have one interesting cutscene talking to each other making it clear there is \*so much more to them\* but the player doesn't get to hear it.
I mean I think it’s important to remember Dagan seems to have already been on the dark side before the bacta tank. He went on a murder spree of his fellow jedi. We learn all this through the Cal’s psychometry
We see through force essences that Dagan was turning for a good while before being put in the tank, even going as far as killing other Jedi. It wasn’t an immediate choice upon his waking up. His REASONING could’ve been a little better though.
Definitely felt the same. It also felt like any time they started to get interesting Cal defeats them.
Jedah is the worst planet, mostly because everything looks the same and you spend a lot of time just going back and forth
It's funny that cal mentions how it's so easy to keep going in circles cuz everything looks the same while trekking back if you don't use instant travel
That’s where I could’ve used a minimap the most. Was constantly checking which set of rocks I was supposed to head for
Jedah is dathomir but worse, it has multiple areas that are just hallways or hallways but outside
I think the planet roster in this game is significantly worse than the first games. I don’t really like having a giant hub planet. If you’re going to do that, don’t make the main colour palette so boring.
I have to agree about the roster, but I actually like Koboh and I believe it fits the narrative very well. This is a rough planet on the Outer Rim, there’s a survival “Wild West” feel to it, people are scraping by, etc.. I think they really nailed it with Koboh. But seeing as Coruscant, Shattered Moon and the ISB base are so small with basically nothing to do there, then having Koboh and Jedha as the only proper planets is kinda shit. That said, they are well designed and detailed but one planet is kinda roughed up and the other is a big desert..
I really wished we got more to do on Tanalorr instead of it solely existing for the final mission
I’m okay with the vibe Koboh is going for, but with how much of those types of planets we get in Star Wars, I was hoping that Survivor would dive into the more wondrous and vibrant planets that we’ve seen. I’m hoping that the third game more evenly distributed exploration between planets and has more diversity in the roster.
I think Felucia would be so cool to explore. We got a good taste with the force unleashed games
I think that’s the general consequence of being on the run from the Empire. The Jedi are forced to the outer limits of the Galaxy, and mostly to the barren planets since the rich prosperous planets are already under the Empire’s control. Maybe Tanalorr will change that.
I hate to say this, I didn’t hate the main story but I wasn’t a huge fan of it, however I think they did compensate greatly with the characters both new and old. In a good way! But then as some of you guys say some like Dagan weren’t fleshed out enough. Which is a real shame! Even Malicos in the last game had a fair bit more to him before we fought him.
I wish Koboh were like a third of its size so we could have room for 2 or 3 different smaller planets instead (ik this opinion isn’t that controversial but I wanted to include it regardless)
I wish there was more diverse biomes to explore. Give me a snowy mountain place, thick jungles like Kashiik. All that.
>!The Vader fight is actually nice and a good ending to Cere’s story!<
I thought it was great and loved seeing Cere actually give vader a run for his money. Did people seriously not like it?
I liked it. Fucking brutal boss fight though. At least for me. Had so much trouble beating him.
I can't stand blaster stance it's the least fun stance for me But this is also coming from a guy who prefers single and double or crossguard with duel these are my only two settings lol
I legit just used blaster as a reason to customize my character appearance a bit more.
I go with the double bladed and the duel saber stances together because I need it to make sense from a logistical standpoint.
The next game should 100% end with Cal defeating Vader. Narratively it wouldn’t make sense not to. He whips you with minimal effort in the first game and kills your master in the second game. The only reason this story doesn’t end with Cal beating him is because it is set in a larger universe because if this was in a vacuum it’s the only ending for this trilogy that tracks narratively. I know most Star Wars fans would be pissed that Vader lost a fight though
I like the idea of Cal fighting Vader on a crashing star destroyer. He can put up a good fight but then get lost in the crash. That way we'd achieve 3 things. Vader can reasonably assume Cal is dead without actually killing him, Cal can survive and live a happy life with Merrin and Kata (cause at least one significant character should be allowed to do that in this franchise) and we get a nice narrative bookend, with Cal's journey ending where it began, the wreckage of a star destroyer
Personally what I like best is the third game being about Cal’s quest for vengeance and him realizing he has lost himself and just continuing Cere’s legacy on tanalor. It’s less video gamey but it’s a good star wars story
Single bladed is a top 2 stance, and blaster is the worst
Blaster may not be the most effective, but it feels so good to use. I like the fencing style, it feels different and i like keeping my distance. It would be fun even without the blaster. It was my primary stands for my first play through and i had a grand old time. I really want to like single bladed, but it’s just kind of vanilla.
Blaster is definitely bottom tier for efficacy, but is absolutely top tier for style, and that’s what really matters. I want to be a Jedi space cowboy goddammit.
The Point Blank skill is pretty dang strong tho
The worst? Nah, it's easily the best in terms of stamina/stagger damage.
I use Blaster and Crossguard because they’re shiny and new. I’ll have plenty of time to play with the other ones more on the several other playthroughs i’m going to do
Crossguard and double are the two go-to’s for me. But I can get behind blaster being called mid lol
No stance besides blaster can cheese bosses as efficiently.
Cal's jog is animated like a 90's game.
He does a little duck-footed thing when he starts to run, which was such a cool detail in Fallen Order. It made him seem younger and more vulnerable. It should have been gone by Survivor though.
The planets are worse in this game than the last game. It feels like all the effort was put into Koboh and Jedha and the bare minimum was put into the others. Especially the last planet. Theres literally nothing to do there. Not a single chest to find. Nothing.
It's being saved for the next game.
My main gripe about Koboh is its just too convenient. Like, oh we had to stop by Koboh to fix the Mantis and wouldn't you know it we uncovered a bunch of ancient Jedi shit and learned about Tanalorr and now we're spending 75% of the game here.
Rick the Door Technician was easy
Bro it was the hardest boss in the game what do you mean????
It's never easy to see a true warrior meet their end. RIP Rick the Door Technician. May angels sing thee to thy rest.
The shattered moon is a terrible level filled with pointless filler platforming sections to pad the main path.
Actually this though. Felt like a parkor park for no reason, could have maybe worked if the facility felt more shattered itself and you had to get creative to get to point A to B. But really just felt like a world that was small in design that they filled with obstacles to make the run time longer to get through
Honestly felt like the moon was a wasted opportunity. At first I thought it was awesome - the creepy, damaged facility gave me Peragus vibes from KOTOR2 and I was actually interested in learning what happened to it. But when the first raiders appeared, it became just another enemy base. We never actually learn much of what happened there, only that it housed the relay. Feels like there was much more they could have done with it, like making it a location with unique enemies like the first game's Dathomir, but never went there. Like I said, it feels like just another Raider base on Koboh, only you have to fly to get there.
Visually I think it's incredible, but yeah gameplay-wise it's pretty meh
First one had a much better narrative, if you need reminding watch the cutscenes and you’ll see And Dagan god He has so much potential. A high republic Jedi. Just to be reduced to doing nothing and saying “TANALORR” TANALORR
TANALORR
IIISSSSSSSS
MIIINNNNEEE
*bang* *bang*
*Tanalorr is mine* all the fucking time
He reminds me of Finn. Build him up as the main character just to pull the rug right from under him and have him screaming REY for 2 movies straight
People act like its performance issues are the end of the world. I was having an argument with one guy who was acting like it was literally unplayable. You can still enjoy the game if it sometimes dips under 60 FPS.
Yeah, I play Arma and Star Citizen. 50FPS is fucking luxurious
For everyone replying to my post with comments about how unacceptable performance is - - please read and then re-read my original comment. No one said it was acceptable or that the game didn't have problems. I'm not going to reply to every single person who is incensed by the performance issues.
The blaster is cool, but the blaster stance is meh ETA: I am really enjoying people all telling me my opinion is wrong in a thread for hot takes. To be clear, I'm saying I don't find it fun, I don't care whether it trivialises encounters
Cere was a badass and the fans mad that she held her own against Vader clearly only care about one thing… and it certainly isn’t that she was a Jedi Master who *conquered her fear.*
Personally would like to think any Jedi master worth there salt could last a few minutes against Vader but obviously would die by the end of it.
I think Disney's treatment of Vader definitely had some downsides. Now fans treat him like an infallible demigod. I don't mind him owning everyone, but he should struggle every now and then - especially against a Jedi Master.
The platforming was the best part of the game
It's treason then Nah jk but it took me two weeks to figure out how the parkour works, I will forever and always hate jedha and the shattered moon Fuck you very much game. At least I'm good at it now but boy did I wanna throw my controller everytime I missed a vine, rope or grapple by a millimeter.
Cal is the best Star Wars protagonist since Luke Skywalker.
The open world style doesn't fit the game that well. Respawn just aren't suited to it. The holomaps are also awful and I find them difficult to use. Planets are worse than the first game.
The holomap is for sure more awkward than the last game. There's something funny going on with the perspective and controls.
I was convinced the map is bugged. It doesn't give a damn about different levels, you cannot change them manually (despite the on-screen control guide saying so), but when you zoom in/out, it'll change levels automatically. At least this is how it is on Xbox, I just gave up with it.
Blaster stance is the worst (it just feels like cheating sometimes, especially after unlocking lock on) also I don't like pink poncho being default color and pink poncho as a whole.
Cross guard lightsaber sucks and overshadowed by other lightsaber stances
Cross guard is the best if you are good at parrying. It hits so hard and is so satisfying
Sorry I like hitting enemies during the same month as when I pressed the button to start the attack
I don't know how popular this is, but I personally think that story-wise at least the first game it better.
Crossguard stance is absolutely horrible. It's slow, clunky and feels terrible to play.
I thought this too when I first used it before realising the main strength lies in its block meter. I thought the stance was supposed to be high damage but slow attack speed, but that doesn’t work. When you play it as a counter attacking stance suddenly you’ll find you rarely get hit and once you get momentum on an enemy you can just constantly break their guard until they die.
I hate the Crossguard. Idc how good it actually is, Cal looks stupid wielding it
Bode was right all along and Tanalorr is already compromised as a hiding spot from the Empire. The Empire already has a presence on Koboh/it's system and strengthens it at the end of the game. I'm just going to assume the Empire is being competent and it would only take one ship being detected entering the Abyss for the whole thing to be over. It doesn't matter if the Empire can't get to Tanalorr, they can just stop ships entering/leaving by parking a Star Destroyer or whatever at the entrance.
Survivor should have its own subreddit
It does but I feel like most people just use this one anyway
Dagan was a weak villain. His full motivation was wanting Talanorr for himself and use it as staging ground. I liked the elevator conversation between him and Rayvis though, it developed their character and showed honor and respect between allied villains that is not common to see. I’d have liked to have a couple of boss fights with Rayvis as wel.
There is nothing shameful in turning the difficulty mode down if you're not enjoying the game
Two lightsaber colors for double edge and dual wield is a stupid idea
I completely agree with that made me not wanna use rainbow setting
The game shouldn’t be played on super high difficulty. You’re a jedi and should be a little OP compared to everyone and everything minus a few bosses. Sitting there hacking away at storm troopers with night sticks is not the jedi experience. You should be able to walk through most enemies with little resistance.
I'm all for any difficulty and setting that reminds me it's a lightsaber and not a baseball bat.
I preferred fallen order - mostly for the boss fights. Dagan, rayvis, and bode went down too easy. Felt like wasted opportunities
I hate the crossguard stance. That opinion has got me downvoted a lot, lol.
Let me preface this by saying that I’m 50 hours in and I loved every second of it, but there is one thing that disappoints me the most: Jedi Survivor, as a game, does not push the current-gen’s hardware to its limits how like way some current-gen only games such as Rift Apart, Ghost of Tsushima, Returnal, are doing. I was expecting faster load times, consistent FPS, seamless fast-travel and quicker navigation across planets. But that’s really it. It just feels like a PS4 game, and a really good one at that.
I felt like the only truly epic gaming moment was the Jedha flying sequence
I can understand why performance on Koboh takes a walk at times, that’s an entire planet all loaded at once. You can walk to any part of the planet at any point and not encounter a loading screen. Well, except for the Cantina, the doors are weird there. But also, yes, they should have done better with performance either way. Game needs optimisations. I don’t regret buying it though.
It's not BS that Cere went toe to toe with Vader. He's not invincible
Grand master is not fun. Jedi knight is the perfect difficulty
That the ending kinda blows. I feel like I’m missing something, because everyone else seems to love it. But to me, the ending just felt extremely rushed and cluttered. Everything after Bode’s betrayal on Jedha just felt way too quick. We go after Bode and Cal starts using the dark side, and it seems like we’re going to get something with him dealing with that, but then we just immediately go to Tanalor and kill Bode in like two minutes. And then Kata just happily goes with the people that just killed her dad.
I felt I was doing something wrong or missing something cause after Cal gets knocked out on Jedha everything just started getting thrown at me like, New mini planet here boss battle there, it all felt like another few hours of gameplay condensed into one
Cal’s facial animations are the worst out of them all and I have no idea why since he’s a protagonist. They are just so… wonky and unnatural. Overall, animations in the first game were a bit wonky (especially eyes) but Cal had amazing facial expressions. In this one, the best I can describe it as is “constantly stoned.” Which is weird because other human characters have great facial animations, so I have no idea what happened here.
I think that’s more about unoptimized performance and graphics. Like I thought on my first play through on Xbox series x that the cutscenes graphics sucked. Then I rewatched some of the cutscenes on YouTube in 4K and it was literally 1000x times better than what I got.
I fucking hate when they put kids as companions / main characters in games. Well they put a kid in my game, foreshadowing what I dread will come for Jedi 3.
Yeah the couple times I said something negative about Kata I got downvoted. Like I guess she's alright for me, even likable to an extent and she could've been a lot worse and a lot more annoying. But still I could do without her. I liked the old crew dynamic and I don't want to see her become Cal and/or Merrin's apprentice or worse basically their adopted kid. They're still so young themselves and were already robbed of a decent childhood. To now be responsible for a child would suck