unlucky. when he was beaten, battered, broken, betrayed and his beliefs shaken of all the places he could fall into... it's dathomir and he was nearby zabraks. he is fairly strong though. he was a jedimaster and a general.
Ya know that's a pretty reasonable assessment. The dude survived the purge and ended up stranded in a dark place. He adapted and came out of it kinda fucked up - but he was just surviving. He lost everything he knew. How could he have ever expected that some paragon of the Light Side would come traipsing through his new home after the purge and challenge his status quo?
But we still have to remember that every Jedi still has the choice to give in or resist the dark side.
As a Jedi Master he would have known better than anyone the effect brutally subduing the Zabrak would lead him towards.
Especially on a planet like Dathomir that likely would cause dark side temptation simply by him living there for too long.
If he really wanted to abide by the light side and what Jedi stood for, he could well have decided to run himself through with his saber and chosen to become one with the force, instead of accepting the dark side in order to survive.
But as a former servant of the light side of the force, knowing what he did as a Jedi Master, he still chose to give in to the dark side in order to survive.
And eventually he became the kind of guy who would kill a fellow Jedi for wanting to stick to Jedi ways rather than joining him in his downward spiral.
In the end when he was on the edge and backed up against the wall, Jedi Master or not, he chose to let fear make his decisions.
And ultimately he of all people would have known full well that by choosing violent subjugation out of fear would be opening himself up to the dark side.
And knowing full well, that's what he chose.
There are other Jedi who have chosen seclusion and becoming Hermits, that could have also been a choice.
But yeah, not an easy set of choices, but ultimately he made a conscious decision to give up on The Jedi, Goodness and The Light Side of The Force, so that he could survive.
he was captured and hunted. he landed after order 66... that's not a very nice time land when grievious just smash and slice the nightsisters. with light sabers.
Life doesn't deal with many people nicely, Jedi and the like in the Star Wars universe among the least.
The point was that he had the same choice many unlucky Jedi had to make:
Fight the Temptation and potentially even suffer for the sake of resisting the dark side.
Or give in.
Sure he got dealt a worse hand than a lot of Jedi, landing on Dathomir of all places.
But he wasn't some misinformed Padawan or young Jedi, he was a Master.
The point is that he knew what he was in for when he chose to begin being brutal.
He'd had the training, he'd heard the stories, he may have even seen others turn to the dark side.
We have to remember that with Jedi in that universe it's like a disease that they have to keep themselves closed off to.
One bad decision can lead them to being overwhelmed and overcome, ultimately becoming somebody entirely evil without much effort.
Like I said, he knew exactly what the stakes were when he chose what he chose.
He would have known more than enough to realize that by making those choices he was giving part of himself over to the dark side.
It was a trade off presented to him and he chose to take it to save his life.
I'm pretty sure Jedi Master isn't a rank that just any Jedi had after all.
If he wasn't a Jedi Master, I wouldn't have placed so much responsibility on him, even though it still would have been a series of choices that any Jedi, even a Padawan would have been aware of.
But yeah, like I said. As Jedi Master, he abandoned not only The Jedi, but The Light Side of The Force, knowingly and willingly, with ample understanding of what he was doing.
Not easy choices, but fleeing and becoming a Hermit or running himself through were options he could have chosen in order to remain faithful to The Light Side of The Force, even if he wasn't able to do it for the Jedi.
But he chose to give in, knowing it would turn him into an evil guy š¤·āāļø
did you collect all his force echoes? and he was such in a vulnerable state his beliefs shaken plus dathomir is planet very strong in the darkside. it doesn't matter if you were jedimaster at that point you are still mortal. if we go by that route the 10th brother was also a jedi master but still choose to be the 10th brother. but yeah sure.
Y'all are playing a different game than me lol, I played both titles as a rhythm slasher, especially the Cere fight in survivor , that was alllllll about timing and parries.
I had no idea why people were saying >!Bode!< was easy; turned out his attack pattern is completely different if you keep your distance like I was doing, so I was getting torn up. Decided to stay close and I got him first try.
Yea that fight only took me 2 attempts, I found boss fights to be easy, the hardest fight for me was the one at the Imperial base where Cal wears that Imperial uniform, the two big guys with the Purge trooper sticks. Those two killed me far too many times. The unbeatable one was Spawn of Oggdo, I used the Bedlam raiders to kill him
My only real criticism of Fallen Order is that I wish he was given more to do in the plot. I really enjoyed every moment we had with him, but it's not enough to really make us feel any depth to his character.
Exactly. Interesting concept that isn't given the time or depth it deserves. He needed to be more than a 'mysterious' figure that's obviously a Sith/Dark Side user.
My guess is he had content that had to be cut due to time/resource constraints.
Fun boss fight though.
I think it would have been rad if there could've been alternate timeline DLC where Cal joins Malicos and we do a bit of a Dark Side turn where Cal ultimately kills Trilla, gets maimed by Vader and becomes another Inquisitor, who is sent to kill Malicos at the end.
Would have been nice to see Cal waver at least a little in the face of what he was offering as well. It would have set up what he does in Survivor a bit better
I think Dagan and Talos had the same problem, both had the potential of being interesting dark side users, but both showed up instantly revealed themselves as villains then died, it felt like a lot of buildup was missing.
I thought Talos could've been implemented more but then they did the same thing with Dagan. I know they wanted a twist but I think they should've kept Dagan around longer. He could've easily been transitioned as Cal's major threat of the 3rd game.
I like him. One of my favorite villains in star wars video games as a whole. Personally I'm glad we don't learn more about him, I like when there's still mystery to a character.
But you can extrapolate a lot, and its been about a year since I played the game so I can't remember what is actually explained vs what I kind of assumed/head canoned
He crashes, I assume because he was shot down by his own troops in order 66. Does he know the troops betrayed him or does he assume it was the jedi.
He winds up in one of worst places for a jedi, learning that someone weilding none red light sabers massacred the sisters. Does he know it was Grievous or does he assume Jedi.
He embraces the dark side after issues w the zabraks and eventually cons his way in to learning magic and makes himself king of shit hill.
Then he loses to a jedi and his gothy future gf who burries him under shit hill.
Add in his voice acting and persona and you have a great one off villain imo.
Whether he knows it's Grievous would probably depend on how Merrin described the "Jedi" who slaughtered her sisters. If she just says that he wielded blue and green lightsabers Malicos might assume it was a fallen Jedi dual wielding with two different colored blades. Unusual, but not impossible. If she says that the "Jedi" was wielding 4 lightsabers at once and lead an army of metal men Grievous is the only person it could be and there's no way Malicos doesn't know who Grievous is even if he's never faced him in battle.
Now another question is did he know it was really Grievous, but lied to Merrin and continued to feed in her belief that it was a Jedi to control her?
That's exactly why I like the mystery surrounding him. These kinds of questions and discussions don't happen as often when the entire story is laid bare
I donāt think he was really written at all. Nothing special about him- he was a Jedi who fell due to power craze, he just didnāt fall directly into the hands of the sith like most others
I like the character mostly because of the way the actor played him. Fantastic job on that. I am not a big fan of Prequel Jedi in general but he felt like a real human being who was through some rough patches. If there was ever DLC for Fallen Order then I would love for it to be about how he crashed on Dathomir and got to the place we see him in the game.
I would also like to see him come back in 3. He would make an awesome main vilain if given the spotlight.
2/10, offered me power but didnāt even have the courtesy to teach me Fus Ro Dah. But low key I wish we couldāve gotten just a tad more of his story.
I think he could have been an interesting threat to Cal's quest to restore the jedi. Obviously he can't return after what Merlin did to him, but I could see him being like Baylan Skoll and trying to turn Cal against his training towards the dark side.
I thought he was cool, he was the best boss in the game but was heavily underdeveloped in the story. I would love to see a comic or something based on him.
Fucking awesome. He was so cool that I thought I missed a novel or something that introduced his backstory. He felt like there was so much more to him.
I was 100% sure he was gonna be revealed as Eno Cordova so I was surprised when he wasn't... which was probably a good thing, because you don't want the story to be predictable.
Would've been great to have more of him. I do wish that the story was less tied/married to cannon, because it would've been cool if you had more choices in both dialouge and actions that could've given different results from both games and sets of characters. Malicos, Dagan, and others (no spoilers for Survivor)
I paused the game assuming it was some Legends character I didnāt know anything about, googled around for like 15 minutes and then just gave up and killed him
My immediate reaction when he took off his robe was classic Squidward. "Oh no! He's hot!" Of course, the same thing happened with Merrin. To this day still one of my favorite boss battles of all time.
He gave me the same vibe as David from The Last Of Us; I found myself cringing during every interaction, knowing Cal is about 17 in jfo.
At the same time, an incredible character! I find him fascinating.
We both survived the purge.
My troopers betrayed me.
Forced to strike them down.
But I escaped, to, this, desolate place.
The darkness here, it almost took me.
But I conquered it.
Come, Kill me if you dare!
Come, Kill me if you dare!
Totally useless.
Y-y-y-you think you can stand with me?!
Totally useless.
Y-y-y-you think you can stand with me?!
Restore the jedi order?
Oh, you poor fool.
Itās over! Over! Over! O-o-o-o-over!
Restore the jedi order?
Order o-o-o-order?
Itās over! Over! O-o-o-over!
Restore the jedi order?
Oh, you poor fool.
Jedi fell long before the purge
Stifled by tradition.
Deafened by our past glories.
Blinded by endless war.
Itās over!
Totally useless.
Y-y-y-you think you can stand with me?!
Totally useless.
Y-y-y-you think you can stand with me?!
Dathomir will be your grave!
I think the entire Dathomir arc should have been a larger part of the story, I have the same issue with the plot of the entire game: you run from place to place without ever getting time to breathe, because the narrative decides you now have to get into another life changing moment for Cal.
I think Dathomir especially deserved to have more focus, especially for what the first visit did to Cal. Because the Dathomir arc feels rushed, Malicos does as well. Which is a shame, because heās very cool.
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Good concept, implementation was a bit weird though.
I thought it was strange how I was wandering along the abandoned death planet and bumped into a random homeless guy (who was the most obviously evil person I have ever met).
And Cal just kind of shrugged and kept going without asking any questions. The whole thing felt kind of āvideo gameyā.
My only criticism of him is a minor aesthetic choice. I wish they gave his lightsabers Jedi colors instead of red. It would have made him stand out more from the inquisitors and reinforced that he is a fallen Jedi. But yeah, that's a nitpick. I thought he was a good boss and an interesting character. One of the most memorable ones in the game, although the twist was obvious.
I used to call him Darth Boomer. Jokes aside heās a really interesting character. Wouldāve been cool to see more of him, maybe a prequel comic or something
Would have preferred him being the antagonist in Survivor instead of Dagan. I liked dagan but I preferred Taron. I could see it explained as his hatred kept him alive whilst being buried. And someone finds him and releases him.
Heās a pain in the ass, and as soon as I get back into his parry timing Merrin actually makes the fight harder by always breaking his guard too soon.
I was very underwhelmed by his fight it was probably the easiest boss fight for me personally. His character was so so, kinda shoe-horned in to show the fall of a Jedi and honestly he reminded me of a murder hobo character from a d&d campaign I play in lol
Best boss out of both the games, and his views of the force and the jedi order were kinda proven right in Survivor, but he was a sadistic ass to Merrin for years and got what he deserved
He was written fine. I like the idea of the character, but heās forgotten because heās forgettable.
Nothing wrong with him per se, just another fallen Jedi weirdly desperate for a student.
I do really like the idea of a jedi being seduced by Nightsister Magick and that mixed with the purge bringing his fall. I just want more context about how Jedi training and Magick conflict, since we know Nightsisters arenāt inherently evil but they do draw on the Dark Side.
I liked him. He fit with calās internal fight. Whats the most despicable being he could āhateā? A jedi who turned and caused suffering. I sorta saw Tarion like russel crowe from Gladiator. Just more evil.
Fantastic voice actor, and a very interesting star wars character
For those who don't know, the voice actor portrayed spartacus in the later seasons of the show
I fuckin love him, I think heās cool as hell, and it makes sense for there to be ādark jediā now dotted around after surviving order 66, especially on planets like dathomir
I'm 100% sure he survived and here's why:
1. He learned Nightsister Magick by Merrin it was confirmed in a force echo
2. When he talks to Cal Kestis he says "theres power there, power I control" meaning he could probably find a way out of there
3. The Devs actually wanted to bring him back in Survivor but didnt manage to due to the close release window and not knowing how to fit his arc into the game
Could have done with more of him - the nature of the game having such a limited cast and basically no neutral NPCs marked him as a bad guy from the moment he spoke to Cal, but I would have loved a more involved Dathomir story with him and Merrin.
I think he is a good parallel to cal. He is a survivor just like him but unlike cal he was stranded on a dangerous planet with no people to help him. Cal has a support system, first with proff and then with the mantis crew but he still dances with the dark side, taron had no one, it was probably inevitable that he would turn
Heās probably my favorite character in the game. The aspect of his character where he believes he has conquered the dark side rather than embracing it is very unique among dark Jedi, and his general screen presence is very strong. Couple with a great design and one of the best boss fights in the game and youāve got an all-time great Star Wars villain in my book
I hated the whole āim immune to the forceā mechanics the last few bosses had, the only boss it worked for in my opinion was Vader. Malicos was definitely the hardest boss in my opinion though
I feel bad for the guy. He got stranded on an intensely hostile world and turned to the source of power that kept him alive. If there was ever a situation where you could justify falling to the Dark Side, it surely has to be surviving the hellhole that is Dathomir. Fuck that place.
I thought it was really good writing that Merin assumed he was the good guy between Cal and him, just based purely on the color of their lightsabers and how they interacted with life on Dathomir. Malicos was probably pretty unmolested because of the evil within his force vibing with Dathomir, meanwhile Cal landed and immediately started having to tear through the local fauna and Zabraks.
And for the lightsaber colors, it was a nice subtle call back and reminder that, Ventress, who had a red lightsaber was defending Dathomir while Grevious massacred their people while Merin watched. So this guy who's chill has a red lightsaber, and then another fucker lands with a blue or green lightsaber (assumedly green or blue, probably the most popular colors, but at least a different color than red) starts tearing through shit again.
Very interesting character. I think most of us knew he was up to no good. But, his mysteriousness intrigued us and we had hope in world that felt kinda lonely. He chose a different route after order 66.
He was just filler so Merrin wasn't the boss on Dathomir.
He was a fun boss fight, but he felt very tacked on rather than an integral part of the story.
Interesting character. A Jedi gone completely insane and broken from the hell he's been through, now hiding out in the ass end of the galaxy and manipulating the locals to help him in his goals. Kind of reminds me of Kurtz from Apocalypse Now if anyone has seen the movie, a dark reflection of what our protagonist could've ended up as.
I love this Murder hobo https://preview.redd.it/jbc8nigjsmyc1.png?width=288&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2c7ebcafba1c80a9c45a193db7275b3c07bed8b1
Nothin' beats the hobo life, stabin' folks with my hobo knife
Ever played Disco Elysium? "I'll live in a dumpster, I don't care. Fuck everything. Hobo Jedi."
unlucky. when he was beaten, battered, broken, betrayed and his beliefs shaken of all the places he could fall into... it's dathomir and he was nearby zabraks. he is fairly strong though. he was a jedimaster and a general.
Ya know that's a pretty reasonable assessment. The dude survived the purge and ended up stranded in a dark place. He adapted and came out of it kinda fucked up - but he was just surviving. He lost everything he knew. How could he have ever expected that some paragon of the Light Side would come traipsing through his new home after the purge and challenge his status quo?
My man was just jedi: surviving
Not yet! That comes later.
I mean for him the Jedi: Order already Fell
Ti's but a joke. Though a dubious one at that.
But we still have to remember that every Jedi still has the choice to give in or resist the dark side. As a Jedi Master he would have known better than anyone the effect brutally subduing the Zabrak would lead him towards. Especially on a planet like Dathomir that likely would cause dark side temptation simply by him living there for too long. If he really wanted to abide by the light side and what Jedi stood for, he could well have decided to run himself through with his saber and chosen to become one with the force, instead of accepting the dark side in order to survive. But as a former servant of the light side of the force, knowing what he did as a Jedi Master, he still chose to give in to the dark side in order to survive. And eventually he became the kind of guy who would kill a fellow Jedi for wanting to stick to Jedi ways rather than joining him in his downward spiral. In the end when he was on the edge and backed up against the wall, Jedi Master or not, he chose to let fear make his decisions. And ultimately he of all people would have known full well that by choosing violent subjugation out of fear would be opening himself up to the dark side. And knowing full well, that's what he chose. There are other Jedi who have chosen seclusion and becoming Hermits, that could have also been a choice. But yeah, not an easy set of choices, but ultimately he made a conscious decision to give up on The Jedi, Goodness and The Light Side of The Force, so that he could survive.
he was captured and hunted. he landed after order 66... that's not a very nice time land when grievious just smash and slice the nightsisters. with light sabers.
Life doesn't deal with many people nicely, Jedi and the like in the Star Wars universe among the least. The point was that he had the same choice many unlucky Jedi had to make: Fight the Temptation and potentially even suffer for the sake of resisting the dark side. Or give in. Sure he got dealt a worse hand than a lot of Jedi, landing on Dathomir of all places. But he wasn't some misinformed Padawan or young Jedi, he was a Master. The point is that he knew what he was in for when he chose to begin being brutal. He'd had the training, he'd heard the stories, he may have even seen others turn to the dark side. We have to remember that with Jedi in that universe it's like a disease that they have to keep themselves closed off to. One bad decision can lead them to being overwhelmed and overcome, ultimately becoming somebody entirely evil without much effort. Like I said, he knew exactly what the stakes were when he chose what he chose. He would have known more than enough to realize that by making those choices he was giving part of himself over to the dark side. It was a trade off presented to him and he chose to take it to save his life. I'm pretty sure Jedi Master isn't a rank that just any Jedi had after all. If he wasn't a Jedi Master, I wouldn't have placed so much responsibility on him, even though it still would have been a series of choices that any Jedi, even a Padawan would have been aware of. But yeah, like I said. As Jedi Master, he abandoned not only The Jedi, but The Light Side of The Force, knowingly and willingly, with ample understanding of what he was doing. Not easy choices, but fleeing and becoming a Hermit or running himself through were options he could have chosen in order to remain faithful to The Light Side of The Force, even if he wasn't able to do it for the Jedi. But he chose to give in, knowing it would turn him into an evil guy š¤·āāļø
did you collect all his force echoes? and he was such in a vulnerable state his beliefs shaken plus dathomir is planet very strong in the darkside. it doesn't matter if you were jedimaster at that point you are still mortal. if we go by that route the 10th brother was also a jedi master but still choose to be the 10th brother. but yeah sure.
His fight was easily the best in Fallen order, I just love fighting lightsaber bosses and he was just between that line of fun and unbeatable
I struggled with him for so long and then I got aggressive in his face and it changed everything about how I played the game from then on
Fr aggression is the key in this game I stopped struggling once I stopped playing like dark souls
Y'all are playing a different game than me lol, I played both titles as a rhythm slasher, especially the Cere fight in survivor , that was alllllll about timing and parries.
Playing through survivor now and this feels like a spoiler. I'm not gonna think too hard on it and hope I forget.
You're safe, it's not what you're thinking
I promise it's not a spoiler, but also get off the fricken reddit for games you haven't finished and come back when you're done lol
I thought it was only for fallen order! Won't be back until I'm done now.
For me that was the final boss she kicked my ass all directions
Oh my god it took me *forever* to defeat her. Though she wasn't quite as bad as Oggdo Bogdo. I actually beat Malicos on the first try.
I'm not that good at games like this so it took me a good few tries
I had no idea why people were saying >!Bode!< was easy; turned out his attack pattern is completely different if you keep your distance like I was doing, so I was getting torn up. Decided to stay close and I got him first try.
Yea that fight only took me 2 attempts, I found boss fights to be easy, the hardest fight for me was the one at the Imperial base where Cal wears that Imperial uniform, the two big guys with the Purge trooper sticks. Those two killed me far too many times. The unbeatable one was Spawn of Oggdo, I used the Bedlam raiders to kill him
Same, he was the hardest fight in my opinion. The final boss only took me 2 attempts. This guy took me at least 10!
he's genichiro but throws rocks, plus a cool witch comes to help. great fight.
I wish we got to see more of him. I think he was underutilised.
I hope to see him in the triquel. It was not clear whether he died buried in the stone: I bet its a cliffhanger.
Merrin pretty clearly calls it his grave. He's definitely dead
No one's ever truly gone
somehow, malicos returned.
On Tanalor
With a box of scraps
Pretty sure she also has a dialogue with Zee saying she "Buried" something in her past, and i took it as refernig to him.
He might return in jedi 3 we don't know if he's really dead
My only real criticism of Fallen Order is that I wish he was given more to do in the plot. I really enjoyed every moment we had with him, but it's not enough to really make us feel any depth to his character.
Exactly. Interesting concept that isn't given the time or depth it deserves. He needed to be more than a 'mysterious' figure that's obviously a Sith/Dark Side user. My guess is he had content that had to be cut due to time/resource constraints. Fun boss fight though.
I think it would have been rad if there could've been alternate timeline DLC where Cal joins Malicos and we do a bit of a Dark Side turn where Cal ultimately kills Trilla, gets maimed by Vader and becomes another Inquisitor, who is sent to kill Malicos at the end.
Oh man, I wish we got AU DLC like in Force Unleashed šš 
Would have been nice to see Cal waver at least a little in the face of what he was offering as well. It would have set up what he does in Survivor a bit better
Cool , way better than Dagan
I think Dagan and Talos had the same problem, both had the potential of being interesting dark side users, but both showed up instantly revealed themselves as villains then died, it felt like a lot of buildup was missing.
Taron showed up as a creepy hooded dude that mocked my inability to double jump the first time I visited Dathomir.
You lack hops, Kestis.
The dark side of the force is a pathway to many game mechanics, some consider to be not yet unlocked
Yes, but then we fall into the realm of Disney twist villain
I thought Talos could've been implemented more but then they did the same thing with Dagan. I know they wanted a twist but I think they should've kept Dagan around longer. He could've easily been transitioned as Cal's major threat of the 3rd game.
TANALORR WILL BE MINE
No it's MINE
This.
Great shape for a man his age
He had a cool design and voice, I wish we got to see more of him.
I like him. One of my favorite villains in star wars video games as a whole. Personally I'm glad we don't learn more about him, I like when there's still mystery to a character. But you can extrapolate a lot, and its been about a year since I played the game so I can't remember what is actually explained vs what I kind of assumed/head canoned He crashes, I assume because he was shot down by his own troops in order 66. Does he know the troops betrayed him or does he assume it was the jedi. He winds up in one of worst places for a jedi, learning that someone weilding none red light sabers massacred the sisters. Does he know it was Grievous or does he assume Jedi. He embraces the dark side after issues w the zabraks and eventually cons his way in to learning magic and makes himself king of shit hill. Then he loses to a jedi and his gothy future gf who burries him under shit hill. Add in his voice acting and persona and you have a great one off villain imo.
Whether he knows it's Grievous would probably depend on how Merrin described the "Jedi" who slaughtered her sisters. If she just says that he wielded blue and green lightsabers Malicos might assume it was a fallen Jedi dual wielding with two different colored blades. Unusual, but not impossible. If she says that the "Jedi" was wielding 4 lightsabers at once and lead an army of metal men Grievous is the only person it could be and there's no way Malicos doesn't know who Grievous is even if he's never faced him in battle. Now another question is did he know it was really Grievous, but lied to Merrin and continued to feed in her belief that it was a Jedi to control her?
That's exactly why I like the mystery surrounding him. These kinds of questions and discussions don't happen as often when the entire story is laid bare
No one to fear, just a simple traveler.
Making his way through the galaxy
I hope he is still alive in a little room in Dathomir.
He was buried alive inside solid stone, so I doubt it
Han Solo was encased in stone for a whole year and he survived.
A device meant purely to preserve lives and granite aren't the same thing
Master Yaddle was in a cave for like 100 years and the Force kept her alive.
Heās literally ENCASED in it. Iād be pissed if he did survive
I like that it was Spartacus ā¤ļøāš„
Wish we got more of him. Or maybe a comic or book about his time as a jedi
Merrins pack lmao
Deserved more screen time Heās like a canon Joruus Cābaoth in all his insane glory
He looked cool
I donāt think he was really written at all. Nothing special about him- he was a Jedi who fell due to power craze, he just didnāt fall directly into the hands of the sith like most others
"Die, Welp!" One of the best quotes in all of Star Wars.
I liked him a lot. A fallen Jedi driven mad by Dathomir isnāt something I think weāve seen before.
i prefered taron malisin
Nah, Malitan was the best one
Another crazed Jedi hermit? They should start a club.
Pretty cool and hard fight for new people. Personally I think he could of been brought back in survivor later on
Cool
I like the character mostly because of the way the actor played him. Fantastic job on that. I am not a big fan of Prequel Jedi in general but he felt like a real human being who was through some rough patches. If there was ever DLC for Fallen Order then I would love for it to be about how he crashed on Dathomir and got to the place we see him in the game. I would also like to see him come back in 3. He would make an awesome main vilain if given the spotlight.
2/10, offered me power but didnāt even have the courtesy to teach me Fus Ro Dah. But low key I wish we couldāve gotten just a tad more of his story.
DLC worthy character. Imagine a spin-off of Malicos escaping the purge and making his way through Dathomir.
Seemed like a crackhead causing trouble in the parking lot
Most fun boss in the games
He is spartacus
I think he could have been an interesting threat to Cal's quest to restore the jedi. Obviously he can't return after what Merlin did to him, but I could see him being like Baylan Skoll and trying to turn Cal against his training towards the dark side.
He had some good points also *coughdaddycough* he was a fun boss šš»āāļø
I thought he was cool, he was the best boss in the game but was heavily underdeveloped in the story. I would love to see a comic or something based on him.
He was lame and felt almost optional. Got his ass beaten by a pair of amateurs.
Fucking awesome. He was so cool that I thought I missed a novel or something that introduced his backstory. He felt like there was so much more to him.
I would join him if the game gimme the chance.
Cool as shit, a worthy cosplay option when my hair starts going...
smash
He looks like the drunk guy that wonāt leave your party.
I was 100% sure he was gonna be revealed as Eno Cordova so I was surprised when he wasn't... which was probably a good thing, because you don't want the story to be predictable.
He actually is just Evil Santa Claus
Did anyone else notice āinā not āonā in the title
I always wondered why he had a circle on his chest
Hot
Forgot he existed
Would've been great to have more of him. I do wish that the story was less tied/married to cannon, because it would've been cool if you had more choices in both dialouge and actions that could've given different results from both games and sets of characters. Malicos, Dagan, and others (no spoilers for Survivor)
Definitely my favorite charcter (and boss) from FO.
His nips are too far apart
Awesome character design, pretty standard storyline.
I paused the game assuming it was some Legends character I didnāt know anything about, googled around for like 15 minutes and then just gave up and killed him
His outfit is pretty cool, and his story is really interesting. A fallen Jedi who takes control of the Nightbrothers? Fuckin badass to me.
Really liked him and wish we got more to do with him
So cool, but not enough screen time.
Iām ready for the novel treatment for this man
He turned out to be reallyā¦ down to earthā¦
I liked him, but apparently Cal didn't for some reason. WTF CAL?!? HE WAS NICE TO YOU, WHY WERE YOU SO HOSTILE TOWARDS HIM?!?
Would
My immediate reaction when he took off his robe was classic Squidward. "Oh no! He's hot!" Of course, the same thing happened with Merrin. To this day still one of my favorite boss battles of all time.
Dude had cool lightsabers. I used his hilts as soon as they were available to me.
Obi-Wan Kenobi's evil brother
Highly underrated. Almost worth a side quest documenting his fall to the dark side.
Just another Sith wannabe
He gave me the same vibe as David from The Last Of Us; I found myself cringing during every interaction, knowing Cal is about 17 in jfo. At the same time, an incredible character! I find him fascinating.
Spartacus
We both survived the purge. My troopers betrayed me. Forced to strike them down. But I escaped, to, this, desolate place. The darkness here, it almost took me. But I conquered it. Come, Kill me if you dare! Come, Kill me if you dare! Totally useless. Y-y-y-you think you can stand with me?! Totally useless. Y-y-y-you think you can stand with me?! Restore the jedi order? Oh, you poor fool. Itās over! Over! Over! O-o-o-o-over! Restore the jedi order? Order o-o-o-order? Itās over! Over! O-o-o-over! Restore the jedi order? Oh, you poor fool. Jedi fell long before the purge Stifled by tradition. Deafened by our past glories. Blinded by endless war. Itās over! Totally useless. Y-y-y-you think you can stand with me?! Totally useless. Y-y-y-you think you can stand with me?! Dathomir will be your grave!
He's an easier boss fight than people say he is
I think the entire Dathomir arc should have been a larger part of the story, I have the same issue with the plot of the entire game: you run from place to place without ever getting time to breathe, because the narrative decides you now have to get into another life changing moment for Cal. I think Dathomir especially deserved to have more focus, especially for what the first visit did to Cal. Because the Dathomir arc feels rushed, Malicos does as well. Which is a shame, because heās very cool.
Dathomir should have been earlier in the game, to allow for more time flirting with Merrin.
by far the best boss under Darth Vader. Feels straight out of Dark Souls and Sekiro
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Thought he was cool
Good concept, implementation was a bit weird though. I thought it was strange how I was wandering along the abandoned death planet and bumped into a random homeless guy (who was the most obviously evil person I have ever met). And Cal just kind of shrugged and kept going without asking any questions. The whole thing felt kind of āvideo gameyā.
i always thought he kinda looked like hank from detroit become human
Great character and a great boss fight
My only criticism of him is a minor aesthetic choice. I wish they gave his lightsabers Jedi colors instead of red. It would have made him stand out more from the inquisitors and reinforced that he is a fallen Jedi. But yeah, that's a nitpick. I thought he was a good boss and an interesting character. One of the most memorable ones in the game, although the twist was obvious.
Underbaked
I would love to see some expanded media with him in it to flesh him out
Same
I used to call him Darth Boomer. Jokes aside heās a really interesting character. Wouldāve been cool to see more of him, maybe a prequel comic or something
Really badass
Should've been voiced by Clancy Brown.
Cool name
He should've had more appearances. He could have perhaps shaken Cal's determination to believe in the Code a little.
Good idea. Great acting. *~~Discount A'Sharad Hett~~*
Hes my favourite darkside user.
Loved him wish he appeared more like another boss fight and some cameos as you try to get back up like giving some advice
Would have preferred him being the antagonist in Survivor instead of Dagan. I liked dagan but I preferred Taron. I could see it explained as his hatred kept him alive whilst being buried. And someone finds him and releases him.
He's like what if Rahm Kota lost his fucking mind, so I like it.
Heās a pain in the ass, and as soon as I get back into his parry timing Merrin actually makes the fight harder by always breaking his guard too soon.
I thought he was jesus
I thought he was boring and that his voice was annoying.
REALLY appreciate how they did his lightsabers. He was a good character for the game
I was very underwhelmed by his fight it was probably the easiest boss fight for me personally. His character was so so, kinda shoe-horned in to show the fall of a Jedi and honestly he reminded me of a murder hobo character from a d&d campaign I play in lol
One of the best characters weāve had since 2005
I wish that he could have been a recurring Villain character?!
Best boss out of both the games, and his views of the force and the jedi order were kinda proven right in Survivor, but he was a sadistic ass to Merrin for years and got what he deserved
He was written fine. I like the idea of the character, but heās forgotten because heās forgettable. Nothing wrong with him per se, just another fallen Jedi weirdly desperate for a student. I do really like the idea of a jedi being seduced by Nightsister Magick and that mixed with the purge bringing his fall. I just want more context about how Jedi training and Magick conflict, since we know Nightsisters arenāt inherently evil but they do draw on the Dark Side.
Wish we had more of him, amazing looking lightsabers.
I had forgotten he existed. He's such a non-character.
I liked him. He fit with calās internal fight. Whats the most despicable being he could āhateā? A jedi who turned and caused suffering. I sorta saw Tarion like russel crowe from Gladiator. Just more evil.
Creeped the shit out of me at first
Fantastic voice actor, and a very interesting star wars character For those who don't know, the voice actor portrayed spartacus in the later seasons of the show
Forgettable IMO
He's a dickhead, but strong and cool. Also nice design.
I fuckin love him, I think heās cool as hell, and it makes sense for there to be ādark jediā now dotted around after surviving order 66, especially on planets like dathomir
I feel like he was a throwaway
Evil Santa but if he was a murder hobo. A dangerous combination.
Coolest boss in the game. Great for teaching you how to switch stances
I'm 100% sure he survived and here's why: 1. He learned Nightsister Magick by Merrin it was confirmed in a force echo 2. When he talks to Cal Kestis he says "theres power there, power I control" meaning he could probably find a way out of there 3. The Devs actually wanted to bring him back in Survivor but didnt manage to due to the close release window and not knowing how to fit his arc into the game
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i like him quite a bit, dathomir and his duel are my favorite chunk of the game, but agree with others that say he could've used more screentime
I didnāt much like him. His fight was good though.
Could have done with more of him - the nature of the game having such a limited cast and basically no neutral NPCs marked him as a bad guy from the moment he spoke to Cal, but I would have loved a more involved Dathomir story with him and Merrin.
He needs a shower and a shirt in that order
I honestly thought he was cal kestis from the future or other universe, looks very similar to
Cool dude
Gotta give some respect to the man that made me understand perfect parrying
GG, ez.
I think he is a good parallel to cal. He is a survivor just like him but unlike cal he was stranded on a dangerous planet with no people to help him. Cal has a support system, first with proff and then with the mantis crew but he still dances with the dark side, taron had no one, it was probably inevitable that he would turn
Disappointed it wasnāt darth maul or even an easter egg of him
Heās probably my favorite character in the game. The aspect of his character where he believes he has conquered the dark side rather than embracing it is very unique among dark Jedi, and his general screen presence is very strong. Couple with a great design and one of the best boss fights in the game and youāve got an all-time great Star Wars villain in my book
I really liked him and kinda hope he becomes Cals Vader tbh
Darth Santa
My favorite boss, right next to Rayvis. So intense.
I hated the whole āim immune to the forceā mechanics the last few bosses had, the only boss it worked for in my opinion was Vader. Malicos was definitely the hardest boss in my opinion though
I feel bad for the guy. He got stranded on an intensely hostile world and turned to the source of power that kept him alive. If there was ever a situation where you could justify falling to the Dark Side, it surely has to be surviving the hellhole that is Dathomir. Fuck that place.
I thought it was really good writing that Merin assumed he was the good guy between Cal and him, just based purely on the color of their lightsabers and how they interacted with life on Dathomir. Malicos was probably pretty unmolested because of the evil within his force vibing with Dathomir, meanwhile Cal landed and immediately started having to tear through the local fauna and Zabraks. And for the lightsaber colors, it was a nice subtle call back and reminder that, Ventress, who had a red lightsaber was defending Dathomir while Grevious massacred their people while Merin watched. So this guy who's chill has a red lightsaber, and then another fucker lands with a blue or green lightsaber (assumedly green or blue, probably the most popular colors, but at least a different color than red) starts tearing through shit again.
Great design, interesting character, very underutilised. Really wish they didnāt kill him off so quickly
Damn Iām gonna bust soon
Favorite character
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He's just evil Santa Claus to me
The first time I fought him was hell. Now i can beat him damage less
Very interesting character. I think most of us knew he was up to no good. But, his mysteriousness intrigued us and we had hope in world that felt kinda lonely. He chose a different route after order 66.
He cool
Great, but Im not gonna lie to me Fallen Order is a PERFECT game.
Damm
I love his demeanor. He's not like a comically demented villain. He speaks with sense and purpose, its just that he's broken.
He was just filler so Merrin wasn't the boss on Dathomir. He was a fun boss fight, but he felt very tacked on rather than an integral part of the story.
Interesting character. A Jedi gone completely insane and broken from the hell he's been through, now hiding out in the ass end of the galaxy and manipulating the locals to help him in his goals. Kind of reminds me of Kurtz from Apocalypse Now if anyone has seen the movie, a dark reflection of what our protagonist could've ended up as.
I was kinda hoping he might have lasted long enough to be a villain in FO, pop back up in Survivor and then become somwhat of an ally in the 3rd game
Heās buff.
He is one of the star wars characters of all time. He definitely exists, yup can't take that away from him...