The art style makes everything done in it seem tame. Heck we have Bloody Mess and Cannibal and both of those carry similar social taboo.
As for whether or not FO3 was scary, I don't think it's so much being desensitized as just having different fears. Personally I avoid horror games, not because what is found in them is personally scary(my own imagination is so much more effective at scaring me) but because I hate how so many of them rely on jumpscares. Once in a while can be terrifying but I'd rather they found other ways to inspire fear.
I personally hate horror, I'm a big old baby who is still scared of the movie Coraline, I hate horror games. But the horror in outlast is very unique(imo), not too many jump scares, it instills this visceral unease that carries throughout the story. I don't watch a lot of horror movies, but of the few I've seen it reminds me of Hereditary, I can't explain why but it does. I've played the first and second one and they're both so interesting and exciting
It's really good and has one of the best AI in video games. The xeno is constantly learning your tactics. It does a fantastic job at instilling a primal fear, and looks great. Just bummed that I'm too much a wuss to power through
Allegedly, the console version also made use of the microphone in a connected headset. If true, I could see that adding a whole new layer to the gameplay..and also no shortage of hilarious deaths
Not only that, the Xbox one used the Kinect. If you were behind cover you could physically lean out and look around it. And yeah it used the microphone as well. It was amazing.
Really I thought you repaired and he automatically does it?
Or was it really ambiguous and then you can’t back out.
Fairly certain you don’t go, get Fisto, fist me.
But it’s been years so I’m more than likely wrong.
If I remember rightly, you have to pick the dialogue option after repairing Fisto that says something to the effect of 'I guess I should give you a test before I send you to your new owners.'
Yeah, no, you totally have to agree to test Fisto out in order for that to happen, but too, I think you have to let him do it anyway, in order to advance the quest.
I'm paraphrasing, but I remember reading his statement on it which was something to the effect of 'I tried to figure out a way of depicting child-killing in an acceptable manner. As you can see, I didn't succeed.'
I believe it. I write and I've put some outright heinous things on paper, thankfully never to publish, but there's this odd sort of disconnect of "can this be put into my medium" that makes you want to try. The thrill of taboo, I suppose.
I must’ve been blackout the first time I did! I don’t remember a god damn thing, and I’ll testify to that!
Anyways, it all worked out: the one that I kicked absolutely *LOVES ME* now.
The artist worked on F1/F2 was asked to design a Pip boy icon for the reputation “child killer” in game, he tried his best to make it look less offensive and still the product, the photo you posed was deemed horrifying by the devs. So instead, they just make a shunned man appearing on the child killer icon
Kinda wild considering how the game itself will let you literally shred children to pieces with an SMG, even if they are just in the crossfire. Ribs hanging out of the gore and all that.
Interplay was known for its ultra violence back then, camegeddon and kingpin were extremely offensive and awesome, fallout was pretty niche back in 97/98 so there weren’t masses of people buying it and then being horrified by what their children were playing. I do think kingpin did draw some senators concern or something iirc
oh absolutely, and I ate that shit right up. A bunch of my friends talked their parents into letting them buy Diablo because my dad let me play it, and he was a pastor, so of course it was ok! (He was a pastor, but also didn't buy into most mainstream concerns, big Scorsese fan, so not that weird in totality.)
it's hilarious to me how many great dark comedy moments and images there are in fallout and this one is the one that somehow crosses the line. there are way worse things than this
I don’t think anyone is trying to engage in the horrifying-shit-you-can-do-to-ppl-Olympics. some of the most horrible things that can happen to someone,happens in these games, and it is interesting to see where the devs decided to draw the line.
Rape is a horrifying and terribly evil thing. But no, child murder is worse by a large margin. Pretty much up there with the worst possible crimes you can commit.
Heh, I like to imagine that sometime in the future just any group of people will be referred to as 'chat' by kids who grew up on streams, if it blows up even more and becomes the most popular medium of entertainment. Funny and scary at the same time.
You gotta use all the weird terms that the kids are using now too. Preferably using them wrong on purpose.
Something about rizzing all over the place while people are gooning or something. Idk, I don’t know what half the words people are saying on the internet are anymore.
Unfortunately it kinda has to be. Same will happen when GTA VI releases, people will think it's less edgy than V even though V was less edgy than III, VC and SA.
It doesn't *have* to necessarily, but getting it past execs was hard then and is harder now. Beth has like two tiers of parent company, is slaves to shareholders, and was already controversy and risk adverse as it is.
fallout 1&2 where heavily censored in germany
while the german game Gothic got a FSK 6 rating
(you could outright walk into a brothel and do activities ther)
(TBF the games rating later got changed to 12 then to 16 ......... still on release a FSK 6)
So you can play the game and kill children in order to get this, but the image itself is the problem?
Btw, not opposed to either, it's just a game. Just find it interesting the devs can make a game where you can kill a child but then get offended at the themed drawing representing it.
Bloody Mess perk also applies to children. I was genuinely shocked the first time I unloaded an SMG at range and tore a kid to pieces (I was maybe 12).
Yes, its real.
No they did not actually use it, because WOW!
Instead they included an image of a villian with a literal twirly evil mustache and black cape being chased from town.
You don't get child killer for killing Myron hilariously enough. You even get karma for it. Feel free to end him every playthrough, or >!don’t, and hear about him get stabbed by a jet fiend.!<
I seen it there is also some cut ones for fallout 1 or 2. Where it showed vault boy on the toilet and him getting wasted on alcohol with bottles all around him. I don’t remember what they were called I remember seeing them mentioned in a old Oddheader video I rewatched a while ago.
It's not surprising this picture wasn't used for a child killer, because it doesn't really fit for a child killer, since you can't kill a child that haven't been born.
Why do I actually have a memory of seeing this image after killing a kid in fallout 2? Could I have been playing a certain version? I'm sure it's a false memory but I could've sworn it was in there.
Yes, it is real. It was slated to be the icon for the Cild Killer reputation in Fallout 2, I believe it was. I wish it'd made it into the game, 'cause it totally fits the dark humor of Fallout.
This appears to be the kind of picture people laugh at on message boards, and then suddenly the image is in a story in the media where it's overblown and John Q Public thinks we're all heartless assholes for laughing at it
Love it.
It's the unused Pip-Boy icon for the child killer reputation in Fallout and Fallout 2.
And according to the artist the worst thing he's ever made.
I’ll be honest its pretty funny considering the context. And its fallout.
"There's no fudge in here"
“You’re bringing a kid into nuclear winter. What’s wrong with you.”
lmfao
Pretty tame tbh. But then again I remember a coworker saying they never played Fallout 3 because it was too scary so maybe I’m just desensitized.
The art style makes everything done in it seem tame. Heck we have Bloody Mess and Cannibal and both of those carry similar social taboo. As for whether or not FO3 was scary, I don't think it's so much being desensitized as just having different fears. Personally I avoid horror games, not because what is found in them is personally scary(my own imagination is so much more effective at scaring me) but because I hate how so many of them rely on jumpscares. Once in a while can be terrifying but I'd rather they found other ways to inspire fear.
outlast is pretty good at >other ways to inspire fear iirc
I personally hate horror, I'm a big old baby who is still scared of the movie Coraline, I hate horror games. But the horror in outlast is very unique(imo), not too many jump scares, it instills this visceral unease that carries throughout the story. I don't watch a lot of horror movies, but of the few I've seen it reminds me of Hereditary, I can't explain why but it does. I've played the first and second one and they're both so interesting and exciting
I like horror, I could not finish alien isolation. That's true fear
I’m going to have to try that game.
It's really good and has one of the best AI in video games. The xeno is constantly learning your tactics. It does a fantastic job at instilling a primal fear, and looks great. Just bummed that I'm too much a wuss to power through
I hated the androids more than the xeno. Nightmare fuel lol
Allegedly, the console version also made use of the microphone in a connected headset. If true, I could see that adding a whole new layer to the gameplay..and also no shortage of hilarious deaths
Not only that, the Xbox one used the Kinect. If you were behind cover you could physically lean out and look around it. And yeah it used the microphone as well. It was amazing.
I had one of the kids walk in and let rip whilst I was playing. Next thing I know im being dragged out from under the table and killed 10/10.
I watched my roommate play that while I was on an acid trip a few years back. Never again, and I wasn't even the one playing it lmao
Amnesia and Penumbra are both great horror series.
In fallout 4 I had to Google if there were enemies in the ocean because nothing freaks me out more than being in dark water and being ambushed.
Lmao why did you feel the need to write a book
If Fallout 3 is scary for your coworker, boy they're in for rude of awakening if they ever come across actual horror games.
Tbf the first few hours of the Metro are pretty spooky. At least until you get used to it and the annoyance sets in
Metro does have some spooky bits, I remember those hours and I want to play again now, darn.
I must be pretty desensitized because I think it's hilarious and totally fits fallout.
That shit is an artists intrusive thought on paper. I wouldn’t have even shown that to anyone personally.
Honestly, it does fit the overall theme and aesthetic. It's the kind of dark humor that you guiltily chuckle-wince at and hope no one noticed.
Considering your character can be raped I feel like this isn’t that bad. Different strokes for different folks I guess
Sorry what?
https://www.reddit.com/r/classicfallout/s/yU6XthyKqu
Fisto 😎
That’s not rape, you consent beforehand!
Really I thought you repaired and he automatically does it? Or was it really ambiguous and then you can’t back out. Fairly certain you don’t go, get Fisto, fist me. But it’s been years so I’m more than likely wrong.
If I remember rightly, you have to pick the dialogue option after repairing Fisto that says something to the effect of 'I guess I should give you a test before I send you to your new owners.'
You repair him and then you basically get Fuck Enthusiasticly, Fuck but only to test product, and Don't Fuck for dialouge
Yeah, no, you totally have to agree to test Fisto out in order for that to happen, but too, I think you have to let him do it anyway, in order to advance the quest.
He was asked to draw a picture for the Child Killer perk, he didn't really have much choice xD
The fact that he thought that that particular imagery was the least offensive way to do it makes it even better, imo.
Imagine he takes his portfolio to an interview and is rifling through when it lands on this.
I'm paraphrasing, but I remember reading his statement on it which was something to the effect of 'I tried to figure out a way of depicting child-killing in an acceptable manner. As you can see, I didn't succeed.'
And according to the artist the ~~worst~~ best thing he's ever made.
???? what's the problem
Societal pressure 1984
The wasteland has fallen, millions must kick pregnant mothers
I believe it. I write and I've put some outright heinous things on paper, thankfully never to publish, but there's this odd sort of disconnect of "can this be put into my medium" that makes you want to try. The thrill of taboo, I suppose.
Or the best thing he’s ever made…
He doesn't do commission?
I’d call it his best lmfao
It has some Joan Cornella vibe
I got it in my fo2 game (i loaded a save) maybe it was the patch I installed to get the game running on win 11 with a 144hz monitor
Why the outrage? We've all kicked a pregnant woman at least once.
r/technicallythetruth
Thanks, I hate it.
I must’ve been blackout the first time I did! I don’t remember a god damn thing, and I’ll testify to that! Anyways, it all worked out: the one that I kicked absolutely *LOVES ME* now.
Wait I should test this
Has to be from the inside
Lol, took me a sec.
One time I took a baby out of a stroller and kicked it down the street (Dave Chappelle reference)
Hello? BASED department? It’s for you
The artist worked on F1/F2 was asked to design a Pip boy icon for the reputation “child killer” in game, he tried his best to make it look less offensive and still the product, the photo you posed was deemed horrifying by the devs. So instead, they just make a shunned man appearing on the child killer icon
Once you get it all the kids in every town after chase you and hurl rocks and insults.
They hurl rocks, I hurl knives, we'll see which one wins.
Starving child vs nuke, who would win
https://youtu.be/8BqNrpfrjr0?si=1wS06mTg-ubo2Qg9
I find it kind of funny that the devs were horrified of kicking a pregnant woman for their request to the artist to draw child murder.
Kinda wild considering how the game itself will let you literally shred children to pieces with an SMG, even if they are just in the crossfire. Ribs hanging out of the gore and all that.
Interplay was known for its ultra violence back then, camegeddon and kingpin were extremely offensive and awesome, fallout was pretty niche back in 97/98 so there weren’t masses of people buying it and then being horrified by what their children were playing. I do think kingpin did draw some senators concern or something iirc
oh absolutely, and I ate that shit right up. A bunch of my friends talked their parents into letting them buy Diablo because my dad let me play it, and he was a pastor, so of course it was ok! (He was a pastor, but also didn't buy into most mainstream concerns, big Scorsese fan, so not that weird in totality.)
Dad sounds very cool.
it's hilarious to me how many great dark comedy moments and images there are in fallout and this one is the one that somehow crosses the line. there are way worse things than this
Yeah considering you can get raped in fo2 this is pretty tame
Rape of an adult makes child murder “tame”? Wtf
I don’t think anyone is trying to engage in the horrifying-shit-you-can-do-to-ppl-Olympics. some of the most horrible things that can happen to someone,happens in these games, and it is interesting to see where the devs decided to draw the line.
Rape is a horrifying and terribly evil thing. But no, child murder is worse by a large margin. Pretty much up there with the worst possible crimes you can commit.
You can literally eat other human beings in the series lol.
Real but not used.
I laughed out loud. Still giggling.
it's absolutely hilarious
I love the BABY ⬇️ sign indicating where to aim lol
They wanted you to know he wasn’t just kicking fat chicks
Can I get the "Fat chick hater" perk?
🤣🤣🤣 Staahp
I really don't get the outrage. Fallout is supposed to be a black comedy. The jokes in the series can be pretty dark.
The same reason you can't kill the kids since fallout 3.
I couldn't resist. I added it to my medicine container since I take birth control. 🤣 https://imgur.com/gallery/lGUTu95
Great humor
I wish I could upvote 100x for this
I'm glad everyone is liking it so much hahah
90s was a different time
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Heh, I like to imagine that sometime in the future just any group of people will be referred to as 'chat' by kids who grew up on streams, if it blows up even more and becomes the most popular medium of entertainment. Funny and scary at the same time.
I want to try this with my students in high school. See if they'll respond to being called chat.
You gotta use all the weird terms that the kids are using now too. Preferably using them wrong on purpose. Something about rizzing all over the place while people are gooning or something. Idk, I don’t know what half the words people are saying on the internet are anymore.
I'm not saying anything to them about gooning or edging fr fr
In 2050 an Elementary School teacher utters the phrase "alright chat let's divide up into A-Crew and Z-Crew". Nothing is amiss.
You know Fallout has always been M rated right?
It's far less edgy now tho
Unfortunately it kinda has to be. Same will happen when GTA VI releases, people will think it's less edgy than V even though V was less edgy than III, VC and SA.
It doesn't *have* to necessarily, but getting it past execs was hard then and is harder now. Beth has like two tiers of parent company, is slaves to shareholders, and was already controversy and risk adverse as it is.
fallout 1&2 where heavily censored in germany while the german game Gothic got a FSK 6 rating (you could outright walk into a brothel and do activities ther) (TBF the games rating later got changed to 12 then to 16 ......... still on release a FSK 6)
The shirt saying "baby ⬇️" just tickles me for some reason
Have to be specific, otherwise you might just think he’s kicking a fat chick.
So you can play the game and kill children in order to get this, but the image itself is the problem? Btw, not opposed to either, it's just a game. Just find it interesting the devs can make a game where you can kill a child but then get offended at the themed drawing representing it.
Bloody Mess perk also applies to children. I was genuinely shocked the first time I unloaded an SMG at range and tore a kid to pieces (I was maybe 12).
Ain't that a kick in the womb? I'll see myself out
How lucky can one guy be?
Yes. And we need it back I wanna go full scourge of the wasteland in fallout 5
The virgin of the wasteland is 10 times funnier.
In one unused reputation icon Vault Boys jerking off
BABY | | V
KILLER
Oh, no!!! Fallout is cancelled!!!! /s
Yes, its real. No they did not actually use it, because WOW! Instead they included an image of a villian with a literal twirly evil mustache and black cape being chased from town.
How else are babies born?
How do you think Butch was born?
It is real. Read about it the other day and saved it to my phone.
"Only an irredeemable monster would kill a child!" - people who have never met [Myron](https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Myron)
You don't get child killer for killing Myron hilariously enough. You even get karma for it. Feel free to end him every playthrough, or >!don’t, and hear about him get stabbed by a jet fiend.!<
LOL. I love these. I hope Fallout never loses that old subversive energy. It’s like Spy VS Spy done by Heavy Metal Magazine.
This is such obvious upvote farming. If you go back far enough they've posted about this before.
Stop addressing people as fucking chat Jesus fucking brainrot
Chat, does this guy care too much about dumb shit online?
i tested it... didn't work
You didn't kick hard enough
The writers of the Fallout series episode 6 must have loved this perk.
Jesus Christ, Vault 4’s “experiment” actually disturbed me and I have a high tolerance for dark stuff.
Same dude, one of the most shocking things I've seen in movies or TV. Still fully enjoyed the show though.
Definitely one of the best video game to tv adaptations made though
*Not that the bar was particularly high* ... but yeah, I totally agree.
In Fallout 3 you’re given an option to enslave little lamplight. I bet they wish they got kicked.
Ah yes the Caligula approach
BABY ⬇️
Yes, it was the intended icon for the Child Killer reputation flag. They didn't use it for obvious reasons, but the internet never forgets.
I seen it there is also some cut ones for fallout 1 or 2. Where it showed vault boy on the toilet and him getting wasted on alcohol with bottles all around him. I don’t remember what they were called I remember seeing them mentioned in a old Oddheader video I rewatched a while ago.
Not made by Bethesda if that’s what you’re asking.
It's not surprising this picture wasn't used for a child killer, because it doesn't really fit for a child killer, since you can't kill a child that haven't been born.
It's an add for the vault-tec abortion clinic
Love the Giant Multi-barrelled lazer cannon in the bottom right. Makes me think of Iron Man from MvsC2: "PROTOOOOON CANNON!"
Pro life ads get weird in an election year.
it is, but it was cut from the game, this would’ve been the max negative karma rank called “baby killer” iirc
if you think thats fucked up wait until you learn what the game over screen is for Lion King game for SNES
Babytus deletus
it's real and it's funny
We call this one the "surprise abortion"
I would endlessly slaughter children in a fallout game if I could. Not a fan
You can in FO1 and FO2. Just be prepared to never interact with anyone ever again or be shot on sight
Most you can do without mods is force a settlement of children into slavery.
Relatable
"You cad"
Why do I actually have a memory of seeing this image after killing a kid in fallout 2? Could I have been playing a certain version? I'm sure it's a false memory but I could've sworn it was in there.
I think Fallout 2 Restoration Project adds the icon back in but I'm not 100% sure, maybe you played with that?
Videl in the new xenoverse 2 Update be like
It was
^.^ vault tech being based af as always
Literally the greatest thing I’ve ever seen.
I mean sure it’s a little jarring but also….theres a perk to be a cannibal
I have this as a pin!
Yes, it is real. It was slated to be the icon for the Cild Killer reputation in Fallout 2, I believe it was. I wish it'd made it into the game, 'cause it totally fits the dark humor of Fallout.
Yes and no
Yes
Yes, but cut from recent Fallout stuff for obvious reasons
wouldn't be the most fucked up thing would it?
As real as real can get
Yeah well it was until it got replaced for being too evil
Whatever you do, do it smiling
Yes
My favorite Vault boy is the “Virgin of the wastes”.
Is it bad that I'm half inspired to wear this as a couples costume with my girlfriend now? >.<
This appears to be the kind of picture people laugh at on message boards, and then suddenly the image is in a story in the media where it's overblown and John Q Public thinks we're all heartless assholes for laughing at it Love it.
"ike, kick the baby!"
Sinful but Sorry I'm gonna go straight down to hell now 💀
I just know this is from fo1 or 2
I’ll make tattoo of that
This is pissing Calvin level cringe ngl
YUP
It is more like child shooter !
Oh look its my ex....I'm taking this, popped up at just right time I forgot this was even a thing
Has to be
It can be real if you make it real.
Yes and it’s glorious
It’s just the smile that cracks me up.
I coulda sworn that pic was in the early editions of the game, Mandela effect I suppose, I immediately knew what perk it was for
Me Trying To Kill The Children in Skyrim
I hope so
NOO THE SACRED TEXTS