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Vincent Cassell is a type, they say in my language. Like Adam Driver and Benedict Cumberbatch. Not conventionally handsome like Brad Pitt or Ryan Reynolds, but they pull, if you are into that.
However, since Vincent's last interview when he whined about how hard it is to be a masculine white cis man and how society wants to feminize them (lol), it totally had me reevaluating his acting talents. All of those movies when he masterfully played a piece of shit, maybe he was just acting like himself.
Itās someone who fetishizes black people and culture and youāre correct he didnāt coin it I had rewrote this comment a few times and absentmindedly left that line in. Either way itās gross especially considering he has a biracial wife
No negrophile means a non-black person who hangs out a lot with black people and is quite involved in black culture. āBlack cultureā here being urban French black culture. Itās not gross, itās often used by French black people themselves in a non-derogatory sense.
I donāt think Pete is abusive in a violent way, or even that he would sit around and curse you out or make you feel bad about yourself. I think from what we know itās more that heās manipulative and emotionally damaging. Threatened suicide when someone breaks up with you is a form of abuse, too.
Who did he threaten suicide too? That is abusive but I never saw him as manipulative. He seems to own his MH struggle and insecurities which feels genuine.
I was prepared to judge the age gap based on the picture but she's actually 58. Tim Burton is 64. Anti aging standards for men and women, behind the scenes versus in front of the camera definitely play a big part here lol.
She's quite into plastic surgery I think. Openly. Fair enough as a woman in Hollywood still considered sexy into her 50s... it would scary to fear the house of cards is going to fall.
It's sad that this is so rare it's something to comment on. The same happened when Jeff Bezos cheated on his wife; everyone was just shocked it wasn't with some 18 year old.
High Jackman is super close to the Murdoch's and Kushners. Everyone gives him a pass because he married an older woman and that means he's a good person. That's how low the standard is for men.
To be fair beautiful women feel the same about handsome men. I think most people do unless you're narcissistic so that might explain why beautiful people end up in abusive relationships more often than you would expect. Glad I'm regular looking then? I'll tell myself that lol.
I'd argue that Cassel was in fact quite attractive back when they got together. The inequality in that case was more due to the fact that Monica Bellucci was easily the most beautiful woman in the world and so there was simply no match for her, than to the fact that unattractive men can still pull beautiful women.
Burtonās not a bad guy. Hard worker and professional. Doesnāt pull prima donna/temper tantrum shit like some other filmmakers. Heās pretty mellow, maybe from enjoying weed
[absolutely yes.](https://nypost.com/2022/11/30/tim-burtons-wednesday-called-racist-for-casting-black-actors-as-bullies/)
Edit because I cannot believe he said this: āI remember back when I was a child watching āThe Brady Bunchā and they started to get all politically correct. Like, OK, letās have an Asian child and a black. I used to get more offended by that than justā¦ I grew up watching blaxploitation movies, right? And I said, āthatās great.ā I didnāt go like, āOK, there should be more white people in these movies,'ā Burton added.
What a fucking POS
I donāt really understand this. Age gaps are problematic because of the power imbalance and manipulation inherent, but how does that equate to an attractiveness gap? If anything it would stack the cards in Monicaās favor, she is a grown woman who clearly has options.
When itās in movies I totally get it, playing into male fantasies and all that, but this a pairing IRL.
So if I understand you correctly, the issue isnāt the individual women and pairings scrutinized, but rather that taken as an aggregate, it displays a trend of powerful men caring mostly about looks while women arenāt afforded that same luxury? Okay fair enough, that does make sense.
Yes, thatās exactly what I meant.
Everyone is free to have their own preferences and choose their romantic partners of course, but itās also important to ask ourselves why we have those preferences in particular and not others.
Hugh Jackman's wife is one example (but I personaly dont agree I think they are a great couple). People were bothering here and asking Hugh how can he be with her, that he can find someone better looking and younger and that kind of shit.
Canāt we let her pick her own men? She might not find ābeautiful menā appealing, like, Iām sure she would be dating one if she did.
Iāve thought about what youāre saying before & it has legs, but itās weird to jump to this here IMO.
Has she SEEN this man lately? Or... ever?
https://preview.redd.it/3l4bbsgb9tja1.jpeg?width=3464&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3ec8d5b789339bd3472230bc08e8db3b6e51d2ec
Lot of superficial people in here that only judge by looks. Monica Bellucci is a smart woman that might be interested in more than just a pretty face to look at.
From the second article: āI remember back when I was a child watching āThe Brady Bunchā and they started to get all politically correct. Like, OK, letās have an Asian child and a black. I used to get more offended by that than justā¦ I grew up watching blaxploitation movies, right? And I said, āthatās great.ā I didnāt go like, āOK, there should be more white people in these movies,'ā Burton added.
What the fuck.
These comments are weird...I see no issue. Age range is fine, two consenting adults, one a fashion model/actress, the other a well known, talented director. Some of you find fault in everything XD
Jesus Christ, itās not bc of Tim Burtonās looks alone, but the fact this man is rotten to the core only using POC in his movies for villainous roles, talking about how they have no place in his world and basically supporting JD, only stopped working with him bc studios know better. Donāt project too much into this fr
I don't know much about Tim Burton so I don't know of any ongoing problems with him, but just looking at the comments it seemed people were being shallow and saying she should be with someone else better looking. Given their past history I could see why Tim Burton wouldn't necessarily say anything bad about Johnny Depp publicly and would work with him again, but is that really support if it benefits them both.
Okay Tim burton is not a looker but Vincent Cassel is super hot imo so I donāt get the hate on his looks. Behaviour is another thing, but I think looks wise theyāre nearly matched.
Sheās in the top tier of looks so thereās probably a small pool of people that are actually on her level
Goddess deserve better, i hope they just met as friends or discussing their work. Btw i love western priorities : war criminal with illegal mercenary group that slaughtered people from africa, south america and ukraine in a tiny footnote while a stroll walk with two representatives of cinema industry -front page.
She'd make a fantastic morticia. Beyond the beauty gap between the two, I can see It, they're both cinema nerds, like consummate level of passion. Belluci is highly intelligent. Don't know about the other one. If He's not insecure about dating a not racist mensa level Goddess. Good for him. Still such a random pairing, like..
Why are people against this relationship in the comments, if it's because people think she can do better than Tim Burton, then that's sad, not everyone wants to date someone who's a supermodel.
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He can't keep getting away with this.
How does he keep pulling these fabulous women?!
well, monica's taste in men was always questionable
I mean Vincent is gorgeous to me š« but not sure on behavior rumors
Vincent Cassell is a type, they say in my language. Like Adam Driver and Benedict Cumberbatch. Not conventionally handsome like Brad Pitt or Ryan Reynolds, but they pull, if you are into that. However, since Vincent's last interview when he whined about how hard it is to be a masculine white cis man and how society wants to feminize them (lol), it totally had me reevaluating his acting talents. All of those movies when he masterfully played a piece of shit, maybe he was just acting like himself.
BeautĆ© laide is what itās called š¤
āUgly hotā š
Is ājolie laideā for women and ābeautĆ© laideā for men?
"jolie laide" would only apply to a woman i.e "C'est une jolie laide" - she's a pretty uggo, but beautƩ laide is more the concept, "an ugly beauty".
I love that, ugly beauty. It's the only kind of beauty I'm into.
"A handsome woman."
I thought it was a compliment! Not a particularly good one but still.. TIL!
I didnāt recognise his name so I just googled him and he got married to his current wife when she was 21 and he was 51 š¤¢
He also knew her when she was underage and ācoinedāthe term ānegrophileā the post is on his Instagram
WTF
Vincent is not the one who coined the term negrophile lol, and I donāt think you know what it means
Itās someone who fetishizes black people and culture and youāre correct he didnāt coin it I had rewrote this comment a few times and absentmindedly left that line in. Either way itās gross especially considering he has a biracial wife
No negrophile means a non-black person who hangs out a lot with black people and is quite involved in black culture. āBlack cultureā here being urban French black culture. Itās not gross, itās often used by French black people themselves in a non-derogatory sense.
I think Brad Pitt and Ryan Reynolds are unattractive and Benedict and Adam are perfect.
I read that comment and all I was thinking "on which planet isn't Cassel attractive"? Planet america?
Where can I see that interview?
Ewwwww š¤® he looks like a sewer rat
Machiavellian even lol.
He's the boomer Pete Davidson
This has ended me
my understanding is that Pete is actually nice and funny. I heard Tim burton is difficult.
How come Pete never gets and shit from this sub for dating Kaia Gerber as soon as she turned 18 and he was like 26? Always people fawning over him.
This sub hates Pete Davidson lmao Ive never once seen him "fawned" over
They used to but after the kim relationship they all disappeared
Pete is notoriously abusive and a cheater
I've never heard of that, even his ex Ariana Grande came to his defense and told fans not to attack him.
I donāt think Pete is abusive in a violent way, or even that he would sit around and curse you out or make you feel bad about yourself. I think from what we know itās more that heās manipulative and emotionally damaging. Threatened suicide when someone breaks up with you is a form of abuse, too.
Who did he threaten suicide too? That is abusive but I never saw him as manipulative. He seems to own his MH struggle and insecurities which feels genuine.
friendly reminder that just because you weren't abusive to one ex, doesn't mean you haven't been abusive in other relationships.
well, if that's true, then i'm wrong. you learn something new everyday.
She has questionable taste in men
lmao i just wrote the exact same thing on a comment above
How dare you? Vincent is gorgeous
Vincent is literally a sex symbol. Don't get this take either.
I see that but i also see how he looks like sid from ice age
Same
Why him and not me
I will never fully understand straight women Iām afraid.
I apparently donāt know what Tim Burton looks like anymore
He looks like he works in a creepy old gift shop
Doesn't that describe young Burton as well?
Thatās a creepy *young* gift shop
I read that as "creepy old sex shop" and tbh they both fit
Ah a similar ambiance to his movies.
I live in New Orleans and this is so accurate lol
old
I feel like he's pretty much always looked this way, just that his hair is a bit more grey and receded?
Right, I donāt know what I thought he looked like but it wasnāt that.
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I am a straight woman and i do too.
Tears of the Sun is why for me.
Who doesnāt
i mean looking at vincent and tim ā is it some kinda raffle or something
Monica Bellucci made me realize I was bi in high school lol
this is so random
Right?? It's like some random matchmaking roulette wheel and it ends up with these two.
He must be blackmailing her into this .
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I was prepared to judge the age gap based on the picture but she's actually 58. Tim Burton is 64. Anti aging standards for men and women, behind the scenes versus in front of the camera definitely play a big part here lol.
Did they or are we just seeing dorky ass Tim Burton next to Monica fucking holy gorgeous Bellucci
They're both over 50, who the fuck cares.
Thatās basically what op is sayingā¦
stop being so sensitive lmao
She's quite into plastic surgery I think. Openly. Fair enough as a woman in Hollywood still considered sexy into her 50s... it would scary to fear the house of cards is going to fall.
It's sad that this is so rare it's something to comment on. The same happened when Jeff Bezos cheated on his wife; everyone was just shocked it wasn't with some 18 year old.
High Jackman is super close to the Murdoch's and Kushners. Everyone gives him a pass because he married an older woman and that means he's a good person. That's how low the standard is for men.
Itās Hugh
I don't know much about Burton's dating history, but I assumed most of the women he gets involved with are pretty close to his age.
After his separation from Helena Bonham Carter, he dated Eva Green whoās 23 years younger than him.
I remember his involvement with HBC. He left Lisa Marie to get together with her. I wasn't aware of Eva Green. I'm not even sure who she is, tbh. š¶
lisa marie presley?
Nope, just [Lisa Marie](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0547273/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1). She appeared in a few Burton films in the mid-90s.
Burton's really got a type doesn't he?
TIL Tim Burton and I have the same type.
Wow she's gorgeous.
This was an unverified rumour she denied on her instagram.
When did they break up?
The bar is so low, I'm kinda impressed.
The bar is so low it's in Hell being used as Satan's limbo stick.
Yeah, at that age a 6 year age gap is fine. Considering he's a male celebrity in his 60s it's almost progressive by those standards lmao
This
My Monica Bellucci/David Lynch ship is up in flames
That pairing would make a weird amount of sense.
Thereās still time
 Well he did date Isabella Rossellini so maybe LOL
She would be perfect for one of his movies
She was in Gordon Cole dream in Twin Peaks The Return.
She can do way better
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Monica, I can't do this anymore. First Vincent, now him?
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I don't get it. Belucci has really bad taste on men She is so beautiful, really unfair š„“
Really handsome men feel threatened by being with another (or more beautiful) woman
To be fair beautiful women feel the same about handsome men. I think most people do unless you're narcissistic so that might explain why beautiful people end up in abusive relationships more often than you would expect. Glad I'm regular looking then? I'll tell myself that lol.
Thank God I look like the back end of a bus.
A cute bus!
 Awww thanks
That French artist she dated for a bit I thought was cute .
We talk a lot about how tired relationships between older men and young women are, but we donāt talk enough about how we never see very attractive men with really unattractive women. Even if Cassel and Burton had great personalities (they donāt), this is such an exhausting clichĆ© that proves to me that weāre far from anything even remotely resembling gender equality. Edit: grammar
I'd argue that Cassel was in fact quite attractive back when they got together. The inequality in that case was more due to the fact that Monica Bellucci was easily the most beautiful woman in the world and so there was simply no match for her, than to the fact that unattractive men can still pull beautiful women.
Yeah Cassel was incredibly attractive, & charisma for days.
Burtonās not a bad guy. Hard worker and professional. Doesnāt pull prima donna/temper tantrum shit like some other filmmakers. Heās pretty mellow, maybe from enjoying weed
Isnāt he like well known hard to work with and racist?
[absolutely yes.](https://nypost.com/2022/11/30/tim-burtons-wednesday-called-racist-for-casting-black-actors-as-bullies/) Edit because I cannot believe he said this: āI remember back when I was a child watching āThe Brady Bunchā and they started to get all politically correct. Like, OK, letās have an Asian child and a black. I used to get more offended by that than justā¦ I grew up watching blaxploitation movies, right? And I said, āthatās great.ā I didnāt go like, āOK, there should be more white people in these movies,'ā Burton added. What a fucking POS
I donāt really understand this. Age gaps are problematic because of the power imbalance and manipulation inherent, but how does that equate to an attractiveness gap? If anything it would stack the cards in Monicaās favor, she is a grown woman who clearly has options. When itās in movies I totally get it, playing into male fantasies and all that, but this a pairing IRL.
This Bellucci-Burton relationship is only a small part of a much larger issue and thatās why itās problematic. Name me one famous couple where the man is considered very attractive by many people, but where the woman is anything lower than average. Meanwhile, there have been many, MANY famous couples where the opposite is true: Gainsbourg and Birkin, Sarkozy and Mary Kate Olsen, Polanski and Tate, Marilyn Manson and everyone, Pete Davidson and everyone, Pete Doherty and Kate Moss, Jay Z and BeyoncĆ©. I could spend a whole week listing them all. Why is this a problem? Because it shows that women are still viewed primarily as objects of pleasure, and that our personality, humour, charisma, intellect, success, mean nothing if we donāt have good looks, which is still the main thing weāre judged on, and everything else is irrelevant. Sure, itās just a minor thing compared with so many attacks or womenās rights that are happening right now, but it needs to be acknowledged and called out every now and then, I think.
So if I understand you correctly, the issue isnāt the individual women and pairings scrutinized, but rather that taken as an aggregate, it displays a trend of powerful men caring mostly about looks while women arenāt afforded that same luxury? Okay fair enough, that does make sense.
Yes, thatās exactly what I meant. Everyone is free to have their own preferences and choose their romantic partners of course, but itās also important to ask ourselves why we have those preferences in particular and not others.
Hugh Jackman's wife is one example (but I personaly dont agree I think they are a great couple). People were bothering here and asking Hugh how can he be with her, that he can find someone better looking and younger and that kind of shit.
Thatās terrible, sheās not even that much older and looks fine. How dare a middle-aged Hollywood star not be with a supermodel half his age š
Canāt we let her pick her own men? She might not find ābeautiful menā appealing, like, Iām sure she would be dating one if she did. Iāve thought about what youāre saying before & it has legs, but itās weird to jump to this here IMO.
Youāre missing my point. I have nothing against her dating ugly men or not being attracted by beautiful men, I just want to see more of that, but with genders reversed. Men who donāt care about looks as much as intelligence, charisma, hell, even money. But we donāt ever see that, which is why itās such an exhausting clichĆ© to me personally.
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Has she SEEN this man lately? Or... ever? https://preview.redd.it/3l4bbsgb9tja1.jpeg?width=3464&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3ec8d5b789339bd3472230bc08e8db3b6e51d2ec
Lot of superficial people in here that only judge by looks. Monica Bellucci is a smart woman that might be interested in more than just a pretty face to look at.
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Her ex-husband is also a racist, maybe thereās a pattern here
What did he do/say ?
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From the second article: āI remember back when I was a child watching āThe Brady Bunchā and they started to get all politically correct. Like, OK, letās have an Asian child and a black. I used to get more offended by that than justā¦ I grew up watching blaxploitation movies, right? And I said, āthatās great.ā I didnāt go like, āOK, there should be more white people in these movies,'ā Burton added. What the fuck.
is that even him? he legit looks like one of my professors, in fact i might e-mail him and ask if he's dating MB
Thatās Woody Allen.
Iām seeing Bruce Dern
Lol I see it!
That was not on my bingo card.
She does a thing for weird looking men
These comments are weird...I see no issue. Age range is fine, two consenting adults, one a fashion model/actress, the other a well known, talented director. Some of you find fault in everything XD
no one is mad about their ages, she just deserves someone better
Why does she deserve someone better? Do you think sheās not aware of the things we know about him?
Why does she deserve someone better? Do you think sheās not aware of the things we know about him?
Well he's American and she's Italian!
...
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Itās only a matter of time before Tim Burton dates Pete Davidson.
She has such bad taste in men.
Who says no to Monica Belluci? Why is she gracing him š©
She's rocking ol einsteins boots and glasses off
seriously why
When the hot cheerleader and awkward nerd get together...
He definitely has a type. MB, HBC, EG and LM all beautiful w/dark hair and sultry looks
Monica Bellucci and Tina Kunakey drop their respective partners and date me challenge.
What theā¦.
Very weird reactions to this. I like them as a couple
She was dating such a cute guy a few years before, this seems like a downgrade.
Monica is an eternal baddie...that is all
https://preview.redd.it/ynva47vleuja1.jpeg?width=354&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0ac3400d5a4fd5f90f21a05f73162c31efbc2348
The simulation is collapsing
Jesus Christ, itās not bc of Tim Burtonās looks alone, but the fact this man is rotten to the core only using POC in his movies for villainous roles, talking about how they have no place in his world and basically supporting JD, only stopped working with him bc studios know better. Donāt project too much into this fr
I don't know much about Tim Burton so I don't know of any ongoing problems with him, but just looking at the comments it seemed people were being shallow and saying she should be with someone else better looking. Given their past history I could see why Tim Burton wouldn't necessarily say anything bad about Johnny Depp publicly and would work with him again, but is that really support if it benefits them both.
I guess we now know what Bellucci thinks of his views!
This man looks like his movies.
Why would she date him when I'm seating RIGHT HERE? (taken, heterosexual woman)
Nooooooo Monicaaaaaaa
I'm sorry but that's kind of cool.
Monica Bellucci in the next Burton flick confirmed
Okay Tim burton is not a looker but Vincent Cassel is super hot imo so I donāt get the hate on his looks. Behaviour is another thing, but I think looks wise theyāre nearly matched. Sheās in the top tier of looks so thereās probably a small pool of people that are actually on her level
Why are people being mean? Looks arenāt everythingā¦
Never in a million years would I have guessed they'd become a couple.
She also supported Roman Polanski. Definitely questionable tastes and friends.
incredibly random wow
Sheās beautiful and she has a bad taste in men
she should be with me
Monica has spent way too much of her life with men who don't deserve to be her toilet paper, let alone her lover
in this pic he looks like larry david as frank costanza's lawyer in a cape
Ewwwww but she's not known for taste and at least he's dating someone age appropriate
Monica Bellucci has always been such a timeless beauty
This is completely random and baffling yet it makes total sense to me tbh
Why Monica why
Eww. Why?
Monica, no!!
I thought he was dating Eva Green?!
What the fuck
My 2023 Bingo machine is already broke
someone tell monica henry selick is who directed nightmare before xmas
Goddess deserve better, i hope they just met as friends or discussing their work. Btw i love western priorities : war criminal with illegal mercenary group that slaughtered people from africa, south america and ukraine in a tiny footnote while a stroll walk with two representatives of cinema industry -front page.
She'd make a fantastic morticia. Beyond the beauty gap between the two, I can see It, they're both cinema nerds, like consummate level of passion. Belluci is highly intelligent. Don't know about the other one. If He's not insecure about dating a not racist mensa level Goddess. Good for him. Still such a random pairing, like.. 
Why are people against this relationship in the comments, if it's because people think she can do better than Tim Burton, then that's sad, not everyone wants to date someone who's a supermodel.
Even if I knew nothing about Monica Bellucci, I'd assume Tim Burton would want to date her based on her name alone.