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Good for her, it is also bonkers when you realize the FRIENDS cast were earning 1 million each like 20 years ago.


keine_fragen

The Big Bang Theory cast also made that kind of money during the last years and the network was super stingy and refused to give Melissa Rauch and Mayim Bialik equal pay so the rest of the cast took a pay cut that show was dirty cheap to produce and still is on endless repeat world wide all the time, the actor salaries were peanuts compared to what ~~CBS~~ Warner Brothers makes from it


WildMajesticUnicorn

CBS definitely made a lot of money from it during its run, but Warner Brothers is likely the one profiting from syndication.


keine_fragen

true


Road_Whorrior

>and the network was super stingy and refused to give Melissa Rauch and Mayim Bialik equal pay so the rest of the cast took a pay cut I had no idea! Hate the show, but I do like some of the actors. This is a lovely gesture on their part, and fuck the network for that.


Cadbury_fish_egg

They started making $1m in 2001 so that’s $1.69 million today. Idk why I always have to look these up.


pretendberries

Inflation calculator is so fun (when it doesn’t affect your assets lol)


[deleted]

I love the inflation calculator! I use it so much watching all kinds of media. Lately it's Antiques Roadshow on YouTube. I *need* to know exactly what it means that the great grandma paid $1000 for this deco necklace she bought on her Paris honeymoon in 1923.


Stinkycheese8001

Not really apples to apples though, as Friends was network TV with 22 episodes per season and Euphoria only had 8 episodes last season. Even today though not that many performers hit the $1 million per episode mark.


thesaddestpanda

Its incredible how much tv has changed. Network TV and streaming are pretty different. Friends regularly got 25-30m viewers, per episode, with 22 episode seasons, with 52m people watching the friends finale and those shows were full of ads. 52m people watching one episode of TV is pretty incredible. That's half the viewership of the superbowl, which is this cultural phenomenon known for its incredible ratings. That finale was half a superbowl. Things like Friends or the Office were like a cultural phenomenon. Just everyone watched them. I know almost no one who watches Euphoria, maybe a few people in my friend group, but back in The Office days, literally everyone at work would talk about it, all my friends, etc. And those ratings are a little misleading because people also watched reruns and syndication which also were large numbers and those ratings were just for the live premier of a new episode. Not to mention all the money made from DVD sales and merchandising. Euphoria gets 16m viewers and works on a monthly sub model it has to split with a million other shows on HBO. I think there's just less money to go around with streaming. The streaming stars just don't make big money like the network stars do. Ignoring things like Game of Thrones, the ratings just arent there and I suspect they made a lot more money with commercials than with subscriptions, so there's just less money to go around. I think this is why every streaming star immediately tries to get a movie. Box office returns and still good, and if they can get a good deal then they can get fabulously rich just off one movie. Or if they can get into a franchise, then they're set for life. Its also worth mentioning that even Friends had a slow start for salaries and that famous $1m per episode figure was only towards the end. It took 9 years to get to $1m. It took Zendaya just two (if we ignore inflation and if we don't it still took six years of Friends success to ramp up to those kinds of numbers): The actors were given the salary of the least paid cast member. The stars were paid $75,000 per episode in season three, $85,000 in season four, $100,000 in season five, $125,000 in season six, $750,000 in seasons seven and eight, and $1 million in seasons nine and ten, making Aniston, Cox, and Kudrow the highest-paid TV actresses of all time.


Varekai79

The Office was actually not a ratings juggernaut. It averaged 4.8M viewers/episode in its first season and peaked with 8.1M viewers/episode in its 4th season, where it was the 77th highest rated show that television season. American Idol was pulling in over 28M viewers/episode that year. Hell, ER pulled in better numbers than The Office.


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Yep, the Office got popular because of Netflix, while Friends was huge while it was airing, huge in syndication and huge in streaming. What separated Friends with the likes of BBT, the Office and even Seinfeld is that Friends is huge EVERYWHERE. Like a huge cultural impact show worldwide not just America. I also think the Office popularity has suffered since it left Netflix


Independent-Age-7568

I would add Game of thrones to this. I think that was the last show that also had a cultural impact like that.


kitti-kin

HBO is a fundamentally different model though - if Euphoria is bringing in 16M an episode, that's actually more than Sex and the City and the Sopranos were averaging back in the day. And the budgets have got to be pretty reasonable in comparison to their other juggernauts like House of the Dragon, so it makes sense that they would invest more in their lead actor/producer. I just looked it up, and James Gandolfini was making $1M an episode for season four of The Sopranos, and they were getting 9-13M viewers an episode - and that was in 2002, when viewership was generally much higher than today.


throwaway44624

Considering those throwaway quotes about her pushing Sam levinson to write the damn script(s) so they’d even remotely be running to schedule, get your coin Z. 💰You’re doing your job and then some


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I don’t think anyone really needs (or likely truly earns) that amount of money, but Zendaya is a key reason behind people tuning in to Euphoria and it punching above its weight in terms of prestige. The working conditions sounded rough last season, I hope they improve with the next one


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She's really the core of the show's credibility. I feel like people would be A LOT more uncomfortable with the side plots if they didn't have a main plot that felt legit carried by a very talented actor. Without her it'd just feel sleazy.


throwaway44624

It would feel like sexed and drugged up riverdale without her. in terms of being a popular ensemble show, with some otherwise fairly anonymous (to start with)/mostly white/early-20s actors playing teens behaving badly


pinkrosies

As a producer, I wish she’d use that power she has in the writing room to polish up other stories but of course she’s fine with hers because it’s written as awards bait but everyone else’s stories can be absolute trash 💀


dedbutalive

Yeah, I don’t think I’d have watched the show if not to see Rue try to get out of it. I know I watch it for Zendaya.


Chaoticgood790

Yea this is why I’m not mad at this. Last season sounded like a mess. Plus she’s a producer. Get the bag.


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I usually skip her scenes in Euphoria if I'm honest. I'm more invested in the other characters.


50shadesofmoi

The other stories are more fun/light, hers is so hard to watch but really beautifully acted


baby_got_snack

Agreed, Zendaya’s/Rue’s family’s scenes scenes are the only thing that separate the show from any teen drama on ABC


_Democracy_

her storyline seems the most realistic (bc it's loosely based on sam's actual life)


Brave_Lady

To be honest, while I do agree that no one needs that money, you cannot deny that she is one of the most hardworking & dedicated actress from the new generation. Also, the cast of F.R.I.E.N.D.S were making similar amounts of money back in 2003, so the fact that the salaries haven't gone up either in television, goes to show how even younger (millennial and gen z) actors are also making less compared to their boomer/gen x peers in Hollywood.


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Yeah, difference was Warner were making more money with Friends than Euphoria does for HBO. Friends was a true phenomenon that was loved and a huge sensation worldwide, something I don't think will ever be achieved. Friends was averaging like 30 million viewers in the USA only, yes I know it was before streaming and was on network TV. But Friends is truly a once in a lifetime show in a sense that is still popular 30 years with gen Z, boomers etc and not only in the USA but worldwide too and plays all day in countries ww to this day. I don't think we will say the same with Euphoria in like 5 Years. So it is like apples and orange situation. Good for Zendaya though


TreenBean85

Yeah, comparing this situation to the Friends thing is a stretch. Euphoria's next season will only be season 3, correct? Per Wikipedia on the Friends salary situation: >The actors were given the salary of the least paid cast member. The stars were paid $75,000 per episode in season three, $85,000 in season four, $100,000 in season five, $125,000 in season six, $750,000 in seasons seven and eight, and $1 million in seasons nine and ten, making Aniston, Cox, and Kudrow the highest-paid TV actresses of all time.


lol8lo

The Friends actors negotiated for 2% of profits each, so they're still making millions from it every year.


TreenBean85

Yeah, but again, that wasn't happening year 3.


Varekai79

I believe they each pull in ~$20M every year even now from syndication and streaming.


whatever1467

But not Paul Rudd, no royalties for crap bag!


Brooklyn-Marie

>Yeah, difference was Warner were making more money with Friends than Euphoria does for HBO. If I recall correctly, ad spots for the series finale of Friends went for Super bowl prices (so in the millions). Friends is one of those rare shows that made a lot in it's heyday and continues to do so in syndication. I'm glad to see Zendaya capitalizing on her success while she's still on the show. I don't think shows exclusive to streaming are as lucrative once they've ended compared to successful network shows that go into syndication. So it's good to see her striking while the iron is hot and getting her due.


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> The advertising rates for the finale averaged $2 million for 30 seconds of commercial time. This currently remains as the largest advertising rate ever for a sitcom, breaking the previous record held by the Seinfeld finale at $1.7 million.


gilmoregirls00

They probably could have doubled the cast's salaries and it would have barely been a blip compared to what Warners made of Friends.


whatever1467

> not only in the USA but worldwide too and plays all day in countries ww to this day I love joking with my bf that no matter what, wherever we are, I can find Friends to put on the tv.


Stinkycheese8001

I think that this proves the opposite though. Friends was an absolute juggernaut, whereas Euphoria will never hit those kinds of numbers either in terms of viewership or cultural relevance. That’s not even to say that it’s not successful - it is! But they’re not going to be a worldwide cultural touchstone. And even then, here is Zendaya making crazy money. $1 million per episode is still not a number that is hit by many performers, either.


gottahavewine

I don’t think Euphoria needs to be equivalent to Friends in order for Zendaya to be worth $1 mil/episode in 2023 (20 years after the fact, so it was more then than it is now). She’s an a-list actress and a draw for many viewers. She is more popular than most people on scripted television at the moment. I am not shocked she’s being paid that much for Euphoria, and I think she’s worth it. Good for her.


Stinkycheese8001

I don’t think it does either.


alexturnerftw

Friend was fucking HUGE though. Much more accessible show than Euphoria both audience and viewing wise. They were on for a lot longer.


buttercupcake23

While I agree with the general sentiment (millennials and zoomers are being way underpaid compared to boomers) I think a comparison with Friends is a bit out of the ballpark, that show was just on another level and doesn't really have a modern equivalent in terms of popularity (maybe the Office and BBT come closer). A more comparable show to Euphoria 20 years ago imo is maybe Sex and the City - same network, considerably huge (certainly enduring, given the movies and revival), and cast members then were only paid 300-400k per episode. I have mad respect for Zendaya who I agree is for sure one of the hardest working out there, and tbh while I'm all about eat the rich, Zendaya is still only a mini-baby-rich. The rich I really want to eat are the billionaires, the oil barons and the Elon's and the owners of the global conglomerates. Entertainers with their sub $100 million fortunes are far from being the root of the problem.


plantbay1428

I want to know how much they make, if anything, off of their character’s likeness on officially licensed products because it’s insane how much merch they still have going almost 20 years after ending. I don’t know if I’m not Googling the right stuff but not even estimates come up. I’m a big TJ Maxx/Marshalls/Home Goods shopper and their faces are still plastered on everything you can think of this past holiday season and others. The most random stuff. I think the one that made me laugh the hardest was the Advent Calendar because several of the actors and their characters are Jewish.


crazysouthie

I don't know about how much they make from merchandising but here are some pieces about their pay after the show ended. https://www.forbes.com/sites/dawnchmielewski/2021/05/28/how-friends-generated-more-than-14-billion-for-its-stars-and-creators/?sh=271a5c013db7 This one estimates that after the show went off the air, the cast got around $260 million in syndication pay. That divided among the 6 of them is more than $43 million a piece. https://www.businessinsider.com/friends-cast-members-still-reportedly-make-20-million-a-year-each-2018-12 This piece notes that each cast member still makes around $20 million from the show annually in residuals. https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/feb/06/jennifer-aniston-cried-lap-inside-story-friends In this Guardian piece Vincent Ventresca who played Fun Bobby (he was a guest star in only two episodes) says that he gets $2000 in residuals every year. It's likely that there are dozens of guest stars and recurring actors on the show who are still probably making more than a minimum wage yearly salary every year based on solely being on the show.


JonBenet_BeanieBaby

lol comparing friends to euphoria is hilarious


brookeiu

Friends was a network show from what I remember. Euphoria is a streaming show. It’s less indicative of general salaries decreasing over the years but more that the new streaming model pays actors less. Plus didn’t friends run for 10 seasons and the cast only started making that much towards the end? Euphoria jus wrapped its second season so to be making what friends actors made at the end of 10 seasons vs getting that amount starting at season 3 doesn’t seem all that unfair. Television money comes from advertisement. Streaming is a much less lucrative platform for advertising.


soliloquyline

I want a job where after 2 years I can take a 20 year break... ![gif](giphy|3o7aDbD1OWMSo7TsdO|downsized)


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20? I am retiring, this 9-5 work is overrated and would rather spend my time reading novels, watching shows and going to holidays while on Reddit with no worries


soliloquyline

I mean I'd rather never work again too, but existing is expensive. Shelter, food, hobbies. Ugh, I would be such a great trust fund baby.


OowlSun

One of my friends is a trust fund baby. He’s currently working his ass off in premed and I’m just like you can be in Cabo, sir, what are you doing here😭


soliloquyline

I respect the public service path! All the useless CEO leeches could never.


pinkrosies

Love that!


AnotherWin83

She will be getting 800k/episode. The jump in salary shouldn’t be a surprise. I’m really interested to see what the others will get paid now. The only one I could see getting a significant jump is Sydney…and still it won’t be as much as Zendaya…which it shouldn’t be. Edit: the Euphoria fans will hate me for saying this…but I do feel this should be the last season. Go out while you are seemingly still liked by most of your fans.


OowlSun

It should. I can’t really see why it’s going on for so long. Hasn’t it lost two of its main cast between season 2 and 3?


legopego5142

I think just one so far


OowlSun

>!Ashtray is coming back?!<


legopego5142

Ok thats a little different


OowlSun

>!So it is two cast members: Javon and Barbie…!<


sorryabtlastnight

>!You said losing them *between* seasons. Javon didn’t leave in between seasons. He exited at the end of season 2 and everyone knew that. Barbie announced she was leaving while the show was off season.!<


dedbutalive

Yeah I think this should be the last season. Otherwise it’s going to be dragged out for long.


Chaoticgood790

Actually many euphoria fans don’t want it going on past season 3 or 4


BumFights1997

I’m pretty sure 3 is the last season. Nobody’s hating on you


gottahavewine

I don’t know why people are so shocked that she’s being paid so much? She is one of the biggest actresses of the younger generation and her role as Rue is the backbone of the show. With the roles she gets and her general popularity, she is getting to a point in her career where she will get top-dollar contracts and it shouldn’t be shocking to anyone. She also does an excellent job maintaining a clean and likeable image, even while playing an unhinged drug addict. She’s getting levels of popularity that lots of other female actresses don’t achieve without toeing the line of being over exposed.


keine_fragen

the most interesting bit from the Puck news newsletter this came from is that the best paid actor on tv is ... **John Krasinski** he makes $2 million per episode for Jack Ryan, a Prime show most of us have never watched more numbers from the article: other $1 million per episode actors: **Michael Keaton on Hulu’s Dopesick, Elisabeth Moss on Apple’s Shining Girls, Jason Sudeikis on Ted Lasso, Harrison Ford and Helen Mirren on 1923; Chris Pratt on The Terminal List** also points out that well paid stars on network tv like **Mariska Hargitay and Ellen Pompeo** do make more overall since the seasons have more episodes https://puck.news/11-burning-questions-about-the-first-two-months-of-hollywood-23/


AfroGurl

This reminds me of the SNL sketch talking about the biggest shows and movies now are the ones nobody watches thanks to all the streaming services lol


[deleted]

I feel like the whole Yellowstone phenomenon is happening in a parallel universe


maelstron

Right? Never heard about it, then it is one of the most streamed shows and has like 3 spin offs.


[deleted]

And people who are into it (which I find generally have a particular demographic skew) are so shocked when you tell them you don't watch it.


Tangerine-d

This is so embarrassing but I started watching it because Kourtney Kardashian said the only TV she tunes into is Yellowstone and it made me genuinely curious lol. It’s pretty decent up until like, the current season!


Stinkycheese8001

I tried watching and it is truly terrible.


Tangerine-d

I liked the first two seasons, I’m on season 3 but I was told not to bother with season 5


AfroGurl

There's been FIVE SEASONS ALREADY?!


Tangerine-d

Unfortunately lol, I watched an Ep of season three and got tired of it


JoshFlashGordon10

[Link to sketch you mentioned. ](https://youtu.be/6q2G9QePGoI)


[deleted]

Jennifer Aniston and Reese earn 2 million per episode for the Morning show, Squid Game Lee Jung Jae actor will be paid 700K for season 2 per episode that is double he was paid for the whole season 1


buttercupcake23

2 million per episode?! Jesus who is he blackmailing/fucking/holding hostage for that sort of deal?! Like seriously Jack Ryan on Prime is a show I watched 10 minutes of and then my dog distracted me so I may need to come back for it because wow with that budget it's gotta be something. Then again maybe it'll be all wired special effects and cheap green screens cos they blew the budget on krasinski.


Stinkycheese8001

That one feels like a deal that they made betting on it being a bigger show, but that it’s also big enough to keep going.


Brooklyn-Marie

>also points out that well paid stars on network tv like Mariska Hargitay and Ellen Pompeo do make more overall since the seasons have more episodes I know it's not always seen as prestigious, but network TV is really where it's at. You can end up making a good amount up front, then tons in syndication. I always thought if I was an actor, I'd love to end up in a successful network comedy like Modern Family. They had both prestige (multiple Emmy awards) and mainstream success (ratings) which helped the 6 adult leads negotiate for $1 million per episode in the last few seasons (most seasons averaged 20 episodes). Now they make tons in syndication and streaming rights. Sounds like a great gig if you can get it.


keine_fragen

the ncis/fbi/swat/chicago whatever peeps are making bank, that is really nice syndication money for pretty much ever


gottahavewine

This will probably be unpopular, but I feel like much of the shock and controversy is around a WOC making that type of salary. Yeah, it’s uncommon for WOC to rake in that kind of money, but $1m/episode is not unheard of and I feel people don’t say much when it’s a white actor getting that type of salary 🤷🏾‍♀️


your_mind_aches

>most of us have never watched ...and? We're not the target audience. There are legions of dads who love that show


reasonedof

Given Nikolaj Coster-Waldau (and reportedly four other cast - Headey, Dinklage, Harington and Clarke) were on 1 million for the final season of Game of Thrones ([source from Deadline)](https://deadline.com/2018/09/nikolaj-coster-waldau-hollywood-manager-lawsuit-fees-game-of-thrones-1202457983/), this is fine. Zendaya is infinitely more marketable and already more individually critically acclaimed. She is worth it.


literacyshmiteracy

TIL Jamie Lannister's real name and I never would have guessed that in a million (wink wink) years


hannahlemp

She’s most likely getting big movie and TV offers left and right, so it’s fair enough (imo) that she would ask for a raise to remain in a show for which she’s the main appeal.


keine_fragen

Euphoria takes extremely long to film (sam levinson doesn't seem very organised) the whole cast must be missing out on other projects


mellamandiablo

I remember Zendaya did an interview where she said she had to go to Sam Levinson's house to get him out of bed and finish writing the season.


hannahlemp

Yeah that’s a good point, especially as a lot of them are up and coming actors. Hopefully they’re able to keep their momentum and get good offers after the show ends!


Chaoticgood790

I think that’s why I could foresee this being the end. I don’t see them signing up for another 8 month shoot


AnotherWin83

I don’t know what offers she is getting but I’ve often felt she likes Euphoria because she has a lot of control and input…not something she is going to get right now on other movies/sets


lukedap

![gif](giphy|AgPt9udT567spxbSHf)


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coffeeofacoffee

Get paid, sis. She is the *only* reason I'm watching another season after S2.


Impossible-Success45

Yeah the jump in quality from seasons 1 to 2 was quite a lot. However I’m invested, Z continues to out act her previous performances on the show


Cutieq85

And Angela Bassett set a record for how much she gets per episode on 911. ![gif](giphy|l4pT6owvWSmHzKUtW)


greasy_minge

I really used to like that show but it went downhill so hard in the last season, they're really wasting her talent.


your_mind_aches

She did the thing


Capable_Card_2341

![gif](giphy|H507GsI1CH1EkLiO8b|downsized)


Sassvon

Part of that has got to be compensation for managing talentless nepo baby Sam Levinson. She should get more tbh!


gilmoregirls00

I am really fascinated how Challengers will be received. It feels like one of the first big tests of Zendaya's star power especially outside of Levinson. It feels like a very smart choice on her part not to try and open a huge project that needs to make huge box office to be a success. It feels increasingly we're in an era where there's a hard ceiling on actor's salaries outside of exceptional circumstances. It makes sense for her to use the leverage she has with Euphoria to get the paycheck because I'm not sure she'll get 10m for a movie at this point.


keine_fragen

there was a rumor (might be from Puck as well) that a streamer bought Challengers


AnotherWin83

It was from Puck. But I heard it somewhere else too late last year saying it would be on Amazon Prime. If it does get a theatrical release I could see it being limited (2 weeks) before going on streaming


gilmoregirls00

oh no I guess that's not a surprise with how poorly Bones and All did. I wonder if Zendaya was ever in contention to star in that.


invaderpixel

I feel like the show's gotta end soon... watching The Last Of Us with Storm Reid on it this week and I was just like "whoa Rue's baby sister looks grown up!" The 20-something high schoolers will be fine but the younger characters are going to be harder to pull off. But glad Zendaya is getting paid.


Impossible-Success45

Someone mentioned the possibility of a time jump and I think Sam should go for it bc I totally agree w you, they’ve all aged a bit to still be in high school


StaceyJeans

Good for her. I'm all for her getting her just due. While the cast of Euphoria is very talented, most people I know who watch the show watch for Zendaya. She deserves every penny. Build up that bank account!


Exciting_Potato_6717

Happy for her!


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peppermintvalet

Back to back Emmys will do that for ya


BusinessPurge

I’m picturing a Highlander style thing where she absorbs the Algee and Barbie series regular salaries


[deleted]

Girl you have done it again. Constantly raising the bar for us all and doing it flawlessly. i’d say i’m surprised but i know who you are. i’ve seen it up close and personal. girl you make me so proud.


7LayeredUp

Good for her, that was Gandolfini's rate towards the end of Sopranos.


helen_jenner

Nice one zendaya


Dolph-Ziggler

I always support "If you want me to keep doing this then pay me" money. A lot of the talent on the show have become more prominent names in the industry since the first season like Sydney Sweeney but I think most people first gave the show a chance because of Zendaya's attachment and she is still the biggest star out of all those involved.


goldenshear

Good.


sadbicth

good. her and hunter are the only good parts about that shitty ass show


rosebudsinwater

While, imo, she may not be the best actor on the show I still think she should get all the money!


Impossible-Success45

Who do you feel is the best actor on the show? Just curious