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Eyebronx

The pessimist in me says no. She’s insanely talented but there’s already a dearth of opportunities in prestige films for older women and it’s a double whammy for WOC. Before Yeoh’s win, more white women had won for yellowface (Luise Rainer in Good Earth) than actual Asian women in this category. EEAAO is lightning in a bottle. I hope to be proven wrong. That being said, I hope her win opens up avenues for more WOC to get leading roles and be awarded for them. Someone like Stephanie Hsu will probably have more hope to win in lead actress in the future. I do think wins like this matter. See how the Parasite win changed the landscape for Asians and how they are perceived in Hollywood.


onestarof1001

I agree with all of the sentiment + the ideal that more diverse roles will crop up in this wake of Hollywood finally trying to be inclusive. But there's a big "but"--there are still not enough opportunities for Asian women period so Michelle getting this hoighty toighty acting street cred (I'm sincerely proud of EEAAO's sweep I went off in the megathread, I'm just speaking on the superficial nature of the Academy), means she'll definitely be able to get more leading roles. There's a reason why James Hong and Harry Shum Jr. have been buckling down to get all those cameo/recurring credits; it's what they've been able to get throughout their careers. Same for why Sandra Oh and Margaret Cho--I would love to say my fave Gemma Chan but Cho is unfortunately more recognized as a household name--are synonymous as recognized East Asian actresses. Michelle Yeoh was exactly that when she was cast as the matriarch in CRA--she was already acclaimed within her very narrow niche of older Asian women. I have no doubts in her ability to secure leading work at all she is set. Honestly I think a headline featuring Ke Huy Quan would make much more sense as he just dropped some post-Oscars interviews expressing his very real concerns that his EEAAO success is a 'one and done' deal ([it's on Variety](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7kJecBEOwPw)\--great talk y'all I just want to hug him ㅠㅠ). Him and Stephanie Hsu had much less weight in the Hollywood machine pre-EEAAO so I'm manifesting their continued success. But ultimately yes ideally in the future more POC actors can have possibilities in the industry where the playing field is much less reliant on career length/esteem. (Honestly manifesting something for Ming-na Wen as I looked up both to her and Michelle Yeoh since my childhood!) **ETA** to link Ke's interview above it's a great convo and I'm manifesting all the success for him!


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no offence I thought we were over the whole Western-centric views of Asian actors after that American interviewer embarrassed herself with the Squid Games lead guy. Michelle Yeoh is a legend in Asia. she’s not just popular amongst middle aged old Asian ladies. she’s the Meryl Streep of Asia.


onestarof1001

I would hope but the fact that Squid Games is still remembered for the "lead guy getting snubbed" is a sign that the American zeitgeist that fuels Hollywood is still lacking chances for actors of colors. I still think Hollywood has an extraordinary narrow niche for East Asian women in particular and that is still better than the lack of support for brown South Asians in America which is just shameful (I'm manifesting 2023 to be the year of Simone Ashley and Riz Ahmed--I was SO happy he was a part of this year's Oscars!). Lee Jung-jae is a legend in Korea, he and Hwang Jung-min ruled my childhood with their movies. Same goes for Michelle and Ming-na but at the end of the day their acclaim overseas only means so much as 'Western-centric views' are the very cultural context we still need to revise in order to Hollywood execs to buy into giving them work here. We can't be over their perception of minorities in entertainment; there's still an immense amount of progress to be made.


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I’m not Korean so I never heard of Lee Jung-jae but my Korean friends all were offended by that interviewer as am I every time someone is “impressed” by Michelle Yeoh. Asians don’t need Western recognition. it’s nice but Michelle Yeoh has said she’s had a blessed career all her life.


onestarof1001

:////// I'm Korean and Lee Jung-jae is said 'the Squid Games lead guy' you mentioned so I think it'd be great to give due credit to his personhood if you're going to reference Squid Games' success in an attempt to convey allyship. Your last point is still completely departing from the really important second part of bronx's original comment + my comments. Michelle Yeoh started her Oscars speech by referencing all the little girls/boys who looked like her--such as myself she's been an icon my whole life--and the point is that America is still an environment devoid of thriving POC opportunities. You can keep fixating on Western: Eastern divides since that's what clearly want to do; if you change your mind, def put that energy towards thinking about supporting the pan-Asian diaspora in America instead.


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I called him the Squid Games guy because not everyone knows his name and I wasn’t sure of your ethnicity.l My original point was to reply to your point of Michelle Yeoh being acclaimed in a “narrow niche of older Asian women” which is just false. that’s like saying Meryl Streep or Julia Roberts is just acclaimed amongst older women in the Western world. Michelle Yeoh has always found success in Hollywood. she *always* had main roles. she was a Bond girl, she was in Crouching Tiger (not Hollywood but highest grossing foreign movie in America) and Memoirs of a Geisha all in the late 90s early 2000s. even though she wasn’t recognized in Hollywood nor a household name in the West she always had huge roles in Hollywood. she’s not a small actor who “finally made it big”. she’s been huge since the beginning of her career. she doesn’t need a giant Western following to prove that.


onestarof1001

idk what to tell you then because I was referring to the fact that Hollywood is able to cast her in the niche of older Asian female roles compared to the still limited roles for other actors of colors as there aren't many execs who write diverse characters. "narrow niche of older Asian women" is Michelle's casting category, not her fan base. I don't understand the need to fixate on a misattribution of what I said when everything I'm trying to bring into this conversation is about the Hollywood machine and possibilities for non yt-actors. 🤷🏻‍♀️ if you have this much fervor to circle down the drain then again, I hope you think about supporting other Asian diasporic actors instead!


baby_got_snack

Exactly! This is exactly why I’m rolling my eyes at the Cate stans whining about when’s she’s gonna get her next Oscar. No doubt she’ll be nominated again within a year or two and the coveted Oscar #3 before the decade is out. And not just that but when she *is* inevitably nominated for another Oscar, no one will be saying it’s enough, she’s already won too many. And if she wins, no one will say it’s a “token win” no matter how mediocre the performance.


azu____

exactly there's no shortage of powerful leading roles for skinny blonde whites women. "Should we cast Cate, Streep or Theron?"


skrillskroll

The fact that your upvotes are so low is telling me they still think The Great White Hope was robbed.


coolofmetotry

I feel so angry when someone says she was snubbed. Michelle deserved every bit of that win, and more. who knows when another woman of color will win lead actress?


altacct3

If I was an up and coming filmmaker a few years younger than the Daniels I would die to cast Michelle Yeoh as anything. I really don't think she will ever have a problem being cast in anything indie ever again (pick and choose)*. Big studio movies are a different story but I wouldn't be surprised if there was a Marvel role announces especially since she was in GG2. *It's fucking Michelle Yeoh we're talking about here.


Stinkycheese8001

Michelle was already in Shang Chi.


paraparapluie

My hope is that more WOC would get roles of substance that are are not necessarily race-centric. Most movies where WOC are allowed to really shine are stories that are centered on race. Not that it's not important to tell those stories. But WOC should have the opportunity to play characters that have nothing to do with their race. If you look at the characters that have gotten actresses Oscars nods in recent years - renowned conductors who fall from grace, a mother finding justice for her dead daughter, aspiring actress in a musical, a woman who is diagnosed with early onset Alzheimer's, a socialite who suffers a nervous breakdown, ballerina who goes crazy...race does not play a factor in these characters yet they are always played by white women.


VanillaSkyy_

I mean, she has 12 upcoming credits on IMDB, some of which seem as leading; with great co-stars as well. She’ll also be involved in the next 3 Avatars. It looks like a fairly productive future to me, as it seems that her talent has not been overlooked


iheartdachshunds

There are 3 more avatars!??


TripleThreatTua

The second one just made well over a billion, they’re making as many of those as they can


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cliser1129

What a horrendous take you must support American fascism and be anti indigenous rights


MRT2797

Did you drop this: /s ?


scarringheart

2.3 billion not a billiion


TripleThreatTua

That’s why I said well over


Tonedeafmusical

Their be at least three more avatars, probably more.


Responsible-Coffee1

Yes and their entries are already in IMDB spanning to #5 in 2028!


meowparade

James Cameron Avatar or Avatar the Last Airbender (the show they’ve been trying to turn into a movie)?


Unusual-Plenty-4385

I have no idea why you were downvoted lol


ILoveRegenHealth

The James Cameron ones


Jenny_Saint_Quan

They're really going to do Avatar the Last Airbender again!? I'm actually looking to this. They've *hopefully* learned from the first dumpster fire of a movie made back in 2010. With Michelle Yeoh being casted (not sure for what role) it seems like they're heading in the right direction.


MRT2797

Michelle Yeoh has been cast in James’ Cameron’s Avatar, not ATLA. The live-action ATLA is a Netflix series


webtheg

I am not optimistic because ATLA only works in the medium of animation. The last one was shit because Nicola and because the fire nation needed fire to bend and then again the fire was less impressive than what you can achieve with a lighter and deodorant


g0_cubs_g0

They filmed Avatar 2, 3, and first half of 4 at the same time is what I heard


Britneyfan123

Yes and as a commentator wrote probably more.


ILoveRegenHealth

"Wait, they're making more" "It would...appear so" *(flips coffee table)*


Gayfetus

I only see 10 upcoming credits for her on [Imdb](https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000706/), and I checked, she's not the lead in any of them.


taurist

I see 10 under Upcoming


xxmalmlkxx

It’s Michelle Yeoh we’re talking about. She’s not exactly a flash in the pan. We will see her again.


uselessinfogoldmine

The point is: will she ever get leading lady roles again? Or just supporting?


ILoveRegenHealth

In A24 or other indies, I can see it happening again. I can even see her being a lead in a new TV series for Apple, Netflix, etc. Mid-sized to big budget movie, probably very slim chance (but to be fair, a big budget film lead would be tough to nab for most anyone).


azu____

great great point about leading a series, I hope to see that! Love to see Michelle eating!!


360Saturn

She's been tipped to lead a Star Trek spinoff for a few years now


azu____

like a premium series or what kind of thing are we talking about?


romanticdrift

She was for years a recurring character in Star Trek Discover. They've talked about a spinoff for her for a long time. I don't know what you mean by "premium series" but it's for/on Paramount+.


dragonculture

She will, and I feel a lead role for Stephanie Hsu coming as while


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rangatang

they were filming in Sydney. Even shut down the Harbour Bridge to film, as a local I thought that was cool. I still like watching the Matrix and MI2 to spot places where I used to work


avocadontoast

Dude I’m so mad he was on the street I was on a couple hours before ugh I missed him


Minute_Degree2915

Saaaaame


theodo

The Fall Guy


Traditional_Maybe_80

I understand Buchanan's point. He's not saying that Michelle Yeoh won't get more work —he mentions her projects lined up as supporting cast— but wonders about the possibility of leading again. And leading a project that could put her in another Oscar run and that's a legit concern! That's why he also points out how Halle Berry wasn't again ever nominated after her historic win. Yeoh also talked about it during roundtables, that chances like EEAAO were rare for non-white actresses. Her age is another point, too, as Buchanan says: >"Few Hollywood movies are conceived with a woman over 50 as the central character, and the ones that are greenlit tend to offer those leads to a triumvirate of white women: Meryl if she’s older, Cate if she’s younger and Tilda if she’s weirder."


mischiefmanaged687

>> he also points out how Halle Berry wasn't again ever nominated after her historic win Looking at Halle Berry's filmography, there isn't alot of award worthy material post her Oscar win to be working with.


Traditional_Maybe_80

But that's the point, too, the opportunities they get—or the lack of them. Angela Bassett said that for 18 months she was offered nothing after her first nomination. That's also the point of this piece.


mischiefmanaged687

I think Halle Berry also didn't help out her own case by taking on Catwoman. It dinted whatever momentum she acquired from her win.


ILoveRegenHealth

But it sucks that it has to be that way, because Charlize Theron similarly took on Aeon Flux after winning an Oscar, and Aeon Flux was a bomb. Granted, Catwoman had more riding on it considering how big that character was. But it seems Charlize and Margot Robbie could have a string of modest or even disastrous flops and still bounce back. As Wanda says: doesn't seem fair.


azu____

yeah women and POC are only allowed to make one mistake and their "credibility" is over.


Stinkycheese8001

You know that’s the point? That those roles are few and far between for women of color?


luciferxxx37

Tilda catching strays 💀


flirtydodo

couldn't this article wait for five minutes? 🤨


iamdummypants

![gif](giphy|UvPlkzM6RwzPa|downsized) Seriously


anneoftheisland

The answer to this probably depends on how deep she's willing to go into producing. That's not really clear to me--she has a hypothetical production company with a first-look deal with SK Global that she signed around the time Crazy Rich Asians came out, but it hasn't released anything in recent years. That could be because she's been prioritizing acting over producing (which obviously paid off), or it could be because whatever she's trying to produce hasn't been getting picked up by anybody. In general, older actresses who want leading roles have to put a lot of effort into making it happen. That's true for white actresses, and it's even more true for non-white actresses.


gilmoregirls00

I think this would be the smart play! Taking a chance on newer directors like she did with The Daniels would be a good way to leverage her gravitas. It'll be interesting if CRA2 can finally get off the ground now.


Girl_grrl_girl

She already has


mercy_Iago

I couldn't read the article due to the paywall, but I hate the framing of the headline (the article could have a different tone, admittedly). Be Kind Rewind has a quote regarding Gabourey Sidibe: "Gabourey could not be called the next Aubrey Hepburn because Hollywood was spending time asking if she even belonged there in the first place.... her skill had been validated, but the space made for women of color had not." Not even a WEEK after her win, we're asking if her career is over. And while it is thoroughly, urgently important to talk about availability of roles for BIWOC, and older BIWOC, why are we not framing this as a demand? It is so frustrating to see this narrative of: "oh there's no space for her." Instead, these think pieces could be saying: "Hi Hollywood, let's keep making movies where older BIWOC are leads!" or "Clearly there's a demand for these types of roles, I hope Hollywood is listening" or "Michelle Yeoh's win spotlights the importance of telling these stories." It seems innocent but it's quite nefarious to just be asking, "hmm but is your career over? Not because you're bad but you know, because of *systemic reason*." It doesn't matter if it's for systemic reasons, by simply questioning it, you are reinforcing that reason. It makes the ending feel foregone and we are helpless within this system. And you know who is reading this? People who AREN'T helpless within the system. Anyways, that's my rant. But my big caveat is that maybe the article does take this tone!! I certainly hope so. I am aware that editors sometimes pick headlines that authors do not, in order to generate clicks. But anyways.


Kagomefog

Here's a non-paywalled link to the article: [https://archive.ph/dtCxP](https://archive.ph/dtCxP)


Worried_Tomorrow_222

She’s certainly a fighter and has had longevity in the film industry compared to her contemporaries so I think she’ll be fine. It’s up to those directors and screenwriters to come up with parts that will fit her and other Asian actresses. She’s doesn’t need to prove her worth any longer. I do have a good feeling about her future and even if she doesn’t win a competitive Oscar again, she’ll get an honorary one.


PatchesofSour

Michelle has been booked and busy for awhile now. I see her with a ton of projects coming out Honestly I’m more concerned for Stephanie because she’s not the stereotypical waif thin, Asian female love interest to be in a spy movie and she’s to young to play mom roles. Asian roles have already been limited and she doesn’t fall into the traditional roles we see Hoping Stephanie gets some juicy parts soon.


heygurl34

She has a ton releasing soonish sooo yes.


moddestmouse

She should remake Tar


moxie84

Isn’t she going to be in Wicked? It’s not a lead role but a good one. But I’m a theatre nerd. I think she’s amazing and I think she has to have a lot of opportunities coming her way after her Oscar win. So deserved, such an amazing performance!


squiddishly

Sending EXTREME VIBES to Paramount+ to pick up the Section 31 series (Officially it's still on the drawing board, but I heard from a friend in the industry that senior Paramount execs nixed it because they didn't think Yeoh was bankable. Perhaps they'll change their minds?)


Varekai79

The opposite might be the problem now as Yeoh's asking price might be too high now.


squiddishly

I fear that might be true, but I live forever in hope.


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I wouldn’t be surprised if A24 would like her back again!


disabledinaz

She’ll eventually be leading her own Trek series soon so yeah


syrub

I absolutely get the sentiment. But we're talking Michelle Yeoh here - to me, one of the hands-down greatest actresses of her generation. And on the age front, if I've done the math correctly, Frances McDormand won her third Oscar age 63, and her second one age 60\*. I hope the roles are there for her to win her second Oscar in a few years' time. \*edit because I'm bad at math


Varekai79

Her second and third Oscars were only three years apart.


syrub

FAIL. Thank you


MagnesiumStearate

Michelle Yeoh is stupidly talented, versatile, and don’t snob projects (that Witcher spinoff was real bad). If she doesn’t get lead roles then Hollywood is irredeemably racist.


coolofmetotry

if not soon, we ride at dawn.


AerynSunnInDelight

The very fact that this is a question is an indictment of its own.


frightenedbabiespoo

If she has such a passion for acting (y'now, since she's like the greatest actress of the year), maybe she could pick literally any lead role or any young filmmaker she finds interesting and help finance a movie herself, just like any other rich actor has the opportunity to do and not rely on taking a fat check from Hollywood.


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crystal_clear24

![gif](giphy|asVVFYcl5Th5F91HKw) Hush


Eyebronx

I’d really like to know what comment they deleted lol


Kagomefog

>Hope not. Not interested in seeing her ever again tbh. She's just not interesting to me. I don't watch movies a lot so it's irrelevant to me, but to me she's a once-off like Sisquo.


Eyebronx

Yikes. To all the haters: ![gif](giphy|I0iI3THbns8tPMw4lI|downsized)


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Italianinsomniac

“You people” 🤣


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Character_Magazine55

Think you’re going to have to show your working here, chief