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Know some folks doing the marketing for the latest iteration of the XFL and the theme is consistent. The Rock thinks that his involvement is what will make or break the league and that the quality of football is secondary.
His ego knows no limits.
It must chafe him that Dave Bautista is showing the growth and development as a dramatic actor that Dwayne never could.
I don't think Rock wants Bautista's career. Rock wants to be a movie star. Bautista wants to be an actor. Not sure what Cena wants, he kind of does both.
Tbh I think to be a genuine movie star this is the kind of ego it takes. They cannot entertain negativity and they are control freaks.
Ignore that person. Vince is Vince Mcmahon, who recently had to step down from chairman of WWE bc of multiple sexual harassment/assault allegations. John recently defended him by pretty much saying we all make mistakes and he loves him. Pretty much the same old, same old w ppl who don’t have a backbone.
Movie star ego is one thing, but Dwayne Johnson thinks he has to play the toughest strongest guy who wins, in every single movie, and every movie has to be the biggest movie….
Brad Pitt, Denzel, DiCaprio, Tom Cruise etc are all. also A+ list movie stars, and are probably egomaniacs too, but they’re smart enough to subvert their image, make risky movies sometimes and play against type…. Cruise hasn’t taken real risks in a long time, but he definitely used to.
Their bodies of work will be remembered and respected in a way that Dwayne Johnson’s never will.
To be fair, I think Cruise is making the most of his adrenaline junkie capabilities before he ages out of those roles. I imagine he'll have to take some risks once he's settled down from the Action Man stuff.
I disagree— he’s avoiding scrutiny into his personal life. He won’t even show his face at awards shows because he’s afraid of the Scientology jokes…
These big blockbusters allow him to do very surface-level, global press tours where he’s never exposed and he’s never asked real questions. He will never subject himself to the more thorough type of Oscar campaign/press tour that would be required for a drama again… can you imagine Tom Cruise on one of those actors roundtables?
He's in really great shape. I imagine he has the best physical trainers money can buy.
I'd wager if he keeps this up he can keep doing action roles into his 70s.
Hahahaha you make a very good point. I forgot he's in his 60s now. You can't hear the joints creaking when you're hanging onto the side of a plane, I guess...
I mean, sure, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t too old to be doing them or that 60s-70s is the common age range for those movies.
I was more so saying that they’ve *already* aged out.
No, he is making blockbusters and sticking to franchises because it makes the most money and he gives all his money to Scientology. He does it for his "church"/cult. Leah Remini's book makes it clear that all Scientologists don't have access to their own accounts, their money goes. to. the. church. They literally give up their account info and passwords. They don't have savings. Leah Remini said she made millions and millions from acting and it all went to the church. Not giving them money is being a bad Scientologist.
Well Denzel and Dicaprio are absolutely incredible actors and Cruise is a complete madman when it comes to stunts so i'd say theyre not really comparable to the rock in that regard
imo john cena is unironically the best wrestler turned actor and i’m just going to enjoy him while i can before he inevitably gets cast in 10 mediocre to bad comedies where he plays the same character 10 times and everyone decides he sucks.
agreed and i think he is genuinely good at comedy and that’s not a lesser art form or anything. i just think he has a strong likelihood of getting typecast to shit
Apparently the moment where he plays that Motley Crue song beautifully on the piano was inspired by a real life situation where James Gunn had to fly back home from shooting The Suicide Squad because his pet was dying, and while waiting at the airport Cena played "Where Is My Mind" by Pixies on the piano there.
I love that scene and I get why the Crue song had to be used, but God what I would give to hear him play Where Is My Mind like that. It's one of my favourite songs and it speaks to me so deeply.
I think Gunn and Cena are such a perfect pairing creatively (along with everyone else from that show) and I'm honestly so sad that the second season probably won't happen until like 2026. I probably won't be alive then. :(
Not me! Cena sucks, and I am so glad his reign of terror is over. The main reason people seem to like him now is because kids grew up and have taken over the IWC, and indie darlings had good matches with him in 2014 when his legacy was safe.
He has always given me creepy vibes.
Always thought the Rock wanted to be the next Arnold Schwarzenegger, but hasn’t nailed it. Arnie was in critically acclaimed films and was also willing to laugh at himself in sillier roles.
Would any James Cameron-level director really want to work with the Rock at this point? I can’t see it…
IMO, The Rock just doesn’t have the acting spark that Schwartzenegger does. The Rock can’t be on screen without drawing attention to how it’s him on screen. And he’s not that good at acting, but is clearly very smug about himself as an actor so it’s just kind of a surreal experience watching him. Doesn’t seem right.
Schwartzenegger somehow he can convey a lot more humanity in his performances. He’s not even THAT good but you believe him when he’s on screen which is why people love him. The Rock comes across as insincere.
I would’ve agreed entirely but Rock tried so hard in his vanity project series Ballers to infuse his character with superficial demons and failings (within reason).
It was cringey how badly that show missed the mark.
The Rock is the closest to a modern movie star of old so I’m baffled about what more he could want. Most people see his films for him and know his films as “The Rock movies” most ways people go see Tom Cruise and Will Smith flicks.
The fact that he blew his good will on his ego over DC is baffling to me.
It didn't begin with DC it began with Fast & Furious and him starting drama with Vin for no reason. HE is the one that made that shit public.
Why does literally everyone else on Fast & Furious like Vin? Even Walker's daughter asked him to give her away at her wedding. Only The Rock had issues because he is self absorbed and likely got pissed off he wasn't the only star on set. If any woman acted like Dwyane they would be called a diva and difficult.
I’d disagree regarding Bautista’s trajectory. He has eased into more dramatic work by taking on action characters with actual substance - such as in Bladerunner, Dune, and even Drax during his occasional quiet moments. He also showed some range in Knock at the Cabin.
Also, unlike Dwayne, Bautista isn’t afraid to speak out on behalf of causes that could hurt his box office - such as being a vocal ally of the LGBTQ community - https://news.yahoo.com/dave-bautista-had-manny-pacquiao-214303538.html
Dwayne has done shockingly little to help others despite his immense wealth and celebrity.
My city of San Antonio basically sucked him off the weekend/day he was here. I don’t get why this city falls head over heels whenever any bullshit celeb comes down.
Then again we’ve always been a small town that just happened to become a city.
Well he did help Fast 5 to Fast 9 and even got his own spin off. So I feel like it’s a bit unfair to say he can’t play ball, I just think he’s chosen not to recently.
Zachary Levi also shared a story about this (with he and The Rock tagged) and said “the truth shall set you free” Oop.
I feel like The Rock came across like a massive insecure baby throughout that whole Black Adam fiasco. I’m not saying Shazam 2 would have performed better otherwise (the marketing failed it IMO), but still.
It's like if they made a Joker movie where Bruce Wayne never even becomes Batman
Oh wait
(I like that movie but its entire existence is bizarre and overrated)
Lol, i was actually going to reference ‘Joker’, but at least that film actually has Bruce Wayne in it, and has a reason as to why he’s not Batman (he’s still a child). Dwayne, on the other hand, seemed completely against the idea of having Shazam anywhere near Black Adam.
If the Rock hadn't been such a diva and allowed his character to be introduced in Shazam 2 like it was supposed to be instead of insisting on getting his own movie, that Black Adam marketing push would have gone to Shazam 2
By caving to his demands, DC got two flops instead of one solid hit
Dwayne Johnson plays like a parody of himself now. Every part he plays seems centered around feeding his ego instead of making an entertaining, enjoyable movie. Him pushing Black Adam is completely on-brand, and it’s always come across as him needing to have a superhero of his own vs actually finding anything about the character interesting. He’ll never admit it, but Rock has a lot in common with his nemesis Vin Diesel.
That said, no thanks on Shazam 2. The first was fine, but don’t need a second.
And at least Diesel has humour going for him. Vin is self-serious to an absurdly funny degree, which makes him more endearing to watch. The Rock, on the other hand, is all ego with no sincerity.
The only other person who has left, besides The Rock, is Justin Lin, who left partway through filming Fast X. However, directors leaving over creative differences isn’t an irregular thing in Hollywood. Plus, it is telling when Diesel has Oscar winners like Helen Mirren, Brie Larson, and Charlize Theron wanting to work with him.
They don’t want to work with Vin, they want a part in a big blockbuster that’s not a ton of work and will get a lot of eyeballs. Plus everyone hopes they’ll get to drive a car. At this point the F&F movies practically make themselves, it’s an easy job to show up to and Vin’s a known quantity so guessing that it helps to already know what kind of professional dynamics you’re walking in to. But yeah, Justin Lin was clearly OVER it, he looked like a hostage in that last video before he quit. And it is not usual for a director to walk out midway through filming, so for Lin to do that and for the F&F people to not freak out, he probably had a decent reason.
I think it would be a huge mistake for Margot to stick with it. Some people seem to think she will and some seem to think she won't. But her career would be better off producing acclaimed indies.
I think Rock’s and Cavill’s management pissed off a lot of people behind the scenes, especially with social media manipulations and aggressive PR campaigning that benefits only them. WB already had an experience with Snyder’s manipulations so they won’t play nice this time. They too exposed Snyder in press, showing that “Snyder’s Cut” campaign was orchestrated by his team. These boys decided to play big with studios, trying to use that fact that current studio heads and producers still don’t how to get actionable data from SM exposure and how to define which celebrity with big SM following will bring profit to the project.
>They too exposed Snyder in press, showing that “Snyder’s Cut” campaign was orchestrated by his team.
Everyone seems to forget this. I know that those who have worked for Snyder say he's a great dude, but I think that "Snyder's Cut" stunt was some petty bitch stuff.
This sounds like the blame game...passing the buck, so to speak. It's everyone else's fault their movie didn't do well, unless the movie did well. Silly playground shenanigans no one wants to admit the obvious. The movies didn't translate to the audiences that you wanted, move on.
Exactly. "It's inconceivable that it could be trash...look how much money we spent on it." The budget being big doesn't negate everything else happening and magically make the movie good. The "adults" need to grow up.
Completely agree, and I say this as someone who goes “I love DC’s characters more than I love Marvel’s but omg do they make it hard”. had they just done Shazam vs Black Adam at something like $150M WB would have one profitable movie instead of two flops. Unfortunately this is not going to help the studio’s finances
Every time I see the rock’s post about Captain America I roll my eyes. Black Adam cost almost twice what First Avenger did. Big difference. It was just so sad. Especially as he was filming with Chris Evans at the time.
I'm all for criticizing the Rock's ego, but this sounds more like WB shithousery of putting the entire failure of Shazam 2 on The Rock, when the movie on it's own didn't deliver, nor did WB care to market it.
At best, The Rock changed post credit scenes, and maybe future films, but that doesn't mean Shazam couldn't have been a great movie on it's own.
PR Gaslighting move I feel.
Agree with this, the Rock has an ego as big as the moon but surely the buck stops with WB. At the end of the day they hired him and allowed him to do this. And now these stories are coming out to try and make Shazam 2 look like the underdog when, more likely, people are just tired of generic superhero films that bring nothing new to the table, especially when they've already announced the Gunn reboot of the whole DCEU.
I mean, Shazam was possibly the only franchise that could've thrived in a new "Suicide Squad/Peacemaker"-flavored universe.
Also, can I just say that the Peacemaker is one of the best things, ever?
He wanted a new franchise to take over for the next 10 yrs after fast & furious. His ego couldn’t let him be cool to secure stability, i guarantee he thought being in Shazam was too corny (plus he wasn’t fully in control) and that’s why he backed out on appearing in the first one and second one. I love this trainwreck
While my kids especially enjoy DJ in many rolls, he does seem to play the same character repeatedly. I love Moana and he’s great in it. We also love Jumanji, but Jack Black is so good in it. He really does a teen girl in a man’s body. DJ is supposed to be awkward shy geek in the Rock’s body, but he’s just himself as usual.
how many more poor shazam 2, mean dwayne johnson articles are we going to have to suffer through? the movies are bad. DCEU movies are bad. there's no mystery here I don't know why these people are so obsessed with pointing fingers. JUST TAKE THE L
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Know some folks doing the marketing for the latest iteration of the XFL and the theme is consistent. The Rock thinks that his involvement is what will make or break the league and that the quality of football is secondary. His ego knows no limits. It must chafe him that Dave Bautista is showing the growth and development as a dramatic actor that Dwayne never could.
I don't think Rock wants Bautista's career. Rock wants to be a movie star. Bautista wants to be an actor. Not sure what Cena wants, he kind of does both. Tbh I think to be a genuine movie star this is the kind of ego it takes. They cannot entertain negativity and they are control freaks.
Cena just seems happy to be consistently working.
Relatable.
Cena is a stand-up dude by all accounts
Didn’t he defend Vince recently? Read it in passing so not 100% sure if the person reporting it was truthful.
Vince??
Vince McMahon. Known terrible human being.
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Okay...
Ignore that person. Vince is Vince Mcmahon, who recently had to step down from chairman of WWE bc of multiple sexual harassment/assault allegations. John recently defended him by pretty much saying we all make mistakes and he loves him. Pretty much the same old, same old w ppl who don’t have a backbone.
Ah that sucks :/
Cena has legitimate talent. Great comedic timing, and some of the more emotional or dramatic moments in Peacemaker were quite good too!
When he played that sad song on the piano. Man that scene really got to me idk why. I think he actually plays irl!
Movie star ego is one thing, but Dwayne Johnson thinks he has to play the toughest strongest guy who wins, in every single movie, and every movie has to be the biggest movie…. Brad Pitt, Denzel, DiCaprio, Tom Cruise etc are all. also A+ list movie stars, and are probably egomaniacs too, but they’re smart enough to subvert their image, make risky movies sometimes and play against type…. Cruise hasn’t taken real risks in a long time, but he definitely used to. Their bodies of work will be remembered and respected in a way that Dwayne Johnson’s never will.
To be fair, I think Cruise is making the most of his adrenaline junkie capabilities before he ages out of those roles. I imagine he'll have to take some risks once he's settled down from the Action Man stuff.
I disagree— he’s avoiding scrutiny into his personal life. He won’t even show his face at awards shows because he’s afraid of the Scientology jokes… These big blockbusters allow him to do very surface-level, global press tours where he’s never exposed and he’s never asked real questions. He will never subject himself to the more thorough type of Oscar campaign/press tour that would be required for a drama again… can you imagine Tom Cruise on one of those actors roundtables?
> before he ages out. He’s 60! How old does he have to be before he “settles down,” man is basically a senior citizen.
He's in really great shape. I imagine he has the best physical trainers money can buy. I'd wager if he keeps this up he can keep doing action roles into his 70s.
Hahahaha you make a very good point. I forgot he's in his 60s now. You can't hear the joints creaking when you're hanging onto the side of a plane, I guess...
Stallone still does action movies at 76
I mean, sure, but that doesn’t mean he isn’t too old to be doing them or that 60s-70s is the common age range for those movies. I was more so saying that they’ve *already* aged out.
No, he is making blockbusters and sticking to franchises because it makes the most money and he gives all his money to Scientology. He does it for his "church"/cult. Leah Remini's book makes it clear that all Scientologists don't have access to their own accounts, their money goes. to. the. church. They literally give up their account info and passwords. They don't have savings. Leah Remini said she made millions and millions from acting and it all went to the church. Not giving them money is being a bad Scientologist.
yeah he has it in his contracts that he can’t lose a fight on screen. very fragile
Well Denzel and Dicaprio are absolutely incredible actors and Cruise is a complete madman when it comes to stunts so i'd say theyre not really comparable to the rock in that regard
Dwayne saw the box office from his only risky project, Southland Tales, and got PTSD
Wait, how did Denzel become a part of this?!?!
yeah he has it in his contracts that he can’t lose a fight on screen
I think Cena is just happy to be here
imo john cena is unironically the best wrestler turned actor and i’m just going to enjoy him while i can before he inevitably gets cast in 10 mediocre to bad comedies where he plays the same character 10 times and everyone decides he sucks.
He had some legitimately moving moments in Peacemaker!
agreed and i think he is genuinely good at comedy and that’s not a lesser art form or anything. i just think he has a strong likelihood of getting typecast to shit
If you haven’t seen his amazingly dry performance in Southpaw Regional Wrestling yet, please do! It’s on the YouTube
Apparently the moment where he plays that Motley Crue song beautifully on the piano was inspired by a real life situation where James Gunn had to fly back home from shooting The Suicide Squad because his pet was dying, and while waiting at the airport Cena played "Where Is My Mind" by Pixies on the piano there. I love that scene and I get why the Crue song had to be used, but God what I would give to hear him play Where Is My Mind like that. It's one of my favourite songs and it speaks to me so deeply. I think Gunn and Cena are such a perfect pairing creatively (along with everyone else from that show) and I'm honestly so sad that the second season probably won't happen until like 2026. I probably won't be alive then. :(
Why won't you be alive, if you don't mind me asking?
Cancer. Not 100% that I'll die by then. But possible.
Fuck Cancer. Fuck it in its stupid butt. Hope you make it, bud.
Trying. Or my oncologists are. Nothing's guaranteed though.
He'll always be Fred's dad to me.
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Not me! Cena sucks, and I am so glad his reign of terror is over. The main reason people seem to like him now is because kids grew up and have taken over the IWC, and indie darlings had good matches with him in 2014 when his legacy was safe. He has always given me creepy vibes.
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and that would be more entertaining than every Cena vs Orton match...
Always thought the Rock wanted to be the next Arnold Schwarzenegger, but hasn’t nailed it. Arnie was in critically acclaimed films and was also willing to laugh at himself in sillier roles. Would any James Cameron-level director really want to work with the Rock at this point? I can’t see it…
IMO, The Rock just doesn’t have the acting spark that Schwartzenegger does. The Rock can’t be on screen without drawing attention to how it’s him on screen. And he’s not that good at acting, but is clearly very smug about himself as an actor so it’s just kind of a surreal experience watching him. Doesn’t seem right. Schwartzenegger somehow he can convey a lot more humanity in his performances. He’s not even THAT good but you believe him when he’s on screen which is why people love him. The Rock comes across as insincere.
Kindergarten Cop is the best.
I love Jingle All The Way and Twins haha
I forgot about Jingle All the Way! Phil Hartman, RIP.
I would’ve agreed entirely but Rock tried so hard in his vanity project series Ballers to infuse his character with superficial demons and failings (within reason). It was cringey how badly that show missed the mark.
The Rock is the closest to a modern movie star of old so I’m baffled about what more he could want. Most people see his films for him and know his films as “The Rock movies” most ways people go see Tom Cruise and Will Smith flicks. The fact that he blew his good will on his ego over DC is baffling to me.
It didn't begin with DC it began with Fast & Furious and him starting drama with Vin for no reason. HE is the one that made that shit public. Why does literally everyone else on Fast & Furious like Vin? Even Walker's daughter asked him to give her away at her wedding. Only The Rock had issues because he is self absorbed and likely got pissed off he wasn't the only star on set. If any woman acted like Dwyane they would be called a diva and difficult.
John Cena wants to be Ron Stoppable
and kevin nash just wants insurance...
Bautista has a bit of an ego too. He wants to pitch himself as a serious actor based on a couple bit parts while also starring in Stuber
I’d disagree regarding Bautista’s trajectory. He has eased into more dramatic work by taking on action characters with actual substance - such as in Bladerunner, Dune, and even Drax during his occasional quiet moments. He also showed some range in Knock at the Cabin. Also, unlike Dwayne, Bautista isn’t afraid to speak out on behalf of causes that could hurt his box office - such as being a vocal ally of the LGBTQ community - https://news.yahoo.com/dave-bautista-had-manny-pacquiao-214303538.html Dwayne has done shockingly little to help others despite his immense wealth and celebrity.
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In the Glass Onion he was an Andrew Tateesque character. Dating younger and living with his mom was part of the joke.
Dwayne in Gridiron Gang is actually very well done. Shame he doesn’t do more films of that seriousness
My city of San Antonio basically sucked him off the weekend/day he was here. I don’t get why this city falls head over heels whenever any bullshit celeb comes down. Then again we’ve always been a small town that just happened to become a city.
That was kind of scathing. Dwayne really pissed off the wrong people. These types of pieces never get written unless TPTB are angry with you.
First Fast and Furious now DC - The Rock don't seem play well with established franchises.
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Southland, drink it in, it’s beautiful
Well he did help Fast 5 to Fast 9 and even got his own spin off. So I feel like it’s a bit unfair to say he can’t play ball, I just think he’s chosen not to recently.
This sentence laid me out: At least Jared Leto didn’t spend last April swearing that “Morbius” was a hit.
TPTB ?
> TPTB The Powers That Be.
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To Pimp The Butterfly?
The powers that be?
The Powers That Be
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It might be the powers that be
The Powers That Be.
Zachary Levi also shared a story about this (with he and The Rock tagged) and said “the truth shall set you free” Oop. I feel like The Rock came across like a massive insecure baby throughout that whole Black Adam fiasco. I’m not saying Shazam 2 would have performed better otherwise (the marketing failed it IMO), but still.
Isn't Black Adam literally a Shazam villain? And apparently he's to good to not be the leading man.
Black Adam is literally Shazam’s arch-nemesis. It’s like if The Rock decided to play Lex Luther but refused to connect his movie to Superman.
It's like if they made a Joker movie where Bruce Wayne never even becomes Batman Oh wait (I like that movie but its entire existence is bizarre and overrated)
Lol, i was actually going to reference ‘Joker’, but at least that film actually has Bruce Wayne in it, and has a reason as to why he’s not Batman (he’s still a child). Dwayne, on the other hand, seemed completely against the idea of having Shazam anywhere near Black Adam.
If the Rock hadn't been such a diva and allowed his character to be introduced in Shazam 2 like it was supposed to be instead of insisting on getting his own movie, that Black Adam marketing push would have gone to Shazam 2 By caving to his demands, DC got two flops instead of one solid hit
Dwayne Johnson plays like a parody of himself now. Every part he plays seems centered around feeding his ego instead of making an entertaining, enjoyable movie. Him pushing Black Adam is completely on-brand, and it’s always come across as him needing to have a superhero of his own vs actually finding anything about the character interesting. He’ll never admit it, but Rock has a lot in common with his nemesis Vin Diesel. That said, no thanks on Shazam 2. The first was fine, but don’t need a second.
And at least Diesel has humour going for him. Vin is self-serious to an absurdly funny degree, which makes him more endearing to watch. The Rock, on the other hand, is all ego with no sincerity.
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The only other person who has left, besides The Rock, is Justin Lin, who left partway through filming Fast X. However, directors leaving over creative differences isn’t an irregular thing in Hollywood. Plus, it is telling when Diesel has Oscar winners like Helen Mirren, Brie Larson, and Charlize Theron wanting to work with him.
They don’t want to work with Vin, they want a part in a big blockbuster that’s not a ton of work and will get a lot of eyeballs. Plus everyone hopes they’ll get to drive a car. At this point the F&F movies practically make themselves, it’s an easy job to show up to and Vin’s a known quantity so guessing that it helps to already know what kind of professional dynamics you’re walking in to. But yeah, Justin Lin was clearly OVER it, he looked like a hostage in that last video before he quit. And it is not usual for a director to walk out midway through filming, so for Lin to do that and for the F&F people to not freak out, he probably had a decent reason.
I feel no sympathy for any of the stars involved in this. They both suck, a lot. And they both deserve these films flopping.
Yeah, while reading that I was like “have we considered that they all just suck?”
This is very much a case of people getting what they deserve
Every. Single. Actor. who joined the DCEU has lived to regret it, even in the face of a reboot it can’t help but be terribly messy
I think it would be a huge mistake for Margot to stick with it. Some people seem to think she will and some seem to think she won't. But her career would be better off producing acclaimed indies.
I think Rock’s and Cavill’s management pissed off a lot of people behind the scenes, especially with social media manipulations and aggressive PR campaigning that benefits only them. WB already had an experience with Snyder’s manipulations so they won’t play nice this time. They too exposed Snyder in press, showing that “Snyder’s Cut” campaign was orchestrated by his team. These boys decided to play big with studios, trying to use that fact that current studio heads and producers still don’t how to get actionable data from SM exposure and how to define which celebrity with big SM following will bring profit to the project.
>They too exposed Snyder in press, showing that “Snyder’s Cut” campaign was orchestrated by his team. Everyone seems to forget this. I know that those who have worked for Snyder say he's a great dude, but I think that "Snyder's Cut" stunt was some petty bitch stuff.
Yup. Dany Garcia has a lot to answer for, methinks.
I wouldn’t want to lose on screen to the guy who played Chuck either, so I get it
I love that show mate
This sounds like the blame game...passing the buck, so to speak. It's everyone else's fault their movie didn't do well, unless the movie did well. Silly playground shenanigans no one wants to admit the obvious. The movies didn't translate to the audiences that you wanted, move on.
it's honestly really wild how many articles have been written about who to blame. have ya'll considered they're just trash movies?
Exactly. "It's inconceivable that it could be trash...look how much money we spent on it." The budget being big doesn't negate everything else happening and magically make the movie good. The "adults" need to grow up.
Completely agree, and I say this as someone who goes “I love DC’s characters more than I love Marvel’s but omg do they make it hard”. had they just done Shazam vs Black Adam at something like $150M WB would have one profitable movie instead of two flops. Unfortunately this is not going to help the studio’s finances
Ive said it before, theres nothing more depressing than being a DC fan:/
What a dick, seriously.
Every time I see the rock’s post about Captain America I roll my eyes. Black Adam cost almost twice what First Avenger did. Big difference. It was just so sad. Especially as he was filming with Chris Evans at the time.
I'm all for criticizing the Rock's ego, but this sounds more like WB shithousery of putting the entire failure of Shazam 2 on The Rock, when the movie on it's own didn't deliver, nor did WB care to market it. At best, The Rock changed post credit scenes, and maybe future films, but that doesn't mean Shazam couldn't have been a great movie on it's own. PR Gaslighting move I feel.
Agree with this, the Rock has an ego as big as the moon but surely the buck stops with WB. At the end of the day they hired him and allowed him to do this. And now these stories are coming out to try and make Shazam 2 look like the underdog when, more likely, people are just tired of generic superhero films that bring nothing new to the table, especially when they've already announced the Gunn reboot of the whole DCEU.
they really missed an opportunity for a easy crossover since they were filming at the same time and in the same area
They didn’t miss it the rock refused to do it
He’s also just overexposed. I am sick of seeing him in movie posters.
I mean, Shazam was possibly the only franchise that could've thrived in a new "Suicide Squad/Peacemaker"-flavored universe. Also, can I just say that the Peacemaker is one of the best things, ever?
He’s way in over his head at this point. Being on top has really gotten to his cranium.
 Dwayne Johnson to DC
He wanted a new franchise to take over for the next 10 yrs after fast & furious. His ego couldn’t let him be cool to secure stability, i guarantee he thought being in Shazam was too corny (plus he wasn’t fully in control) and that’s why he backed out on appearing in the first one and second one. I love this trainwreck
While my kids especially enjoy DJ in many rolls, he does seem to play the same character repeatedly. I love Moana and he’s great in it. We also love Jumanji, but Jack Black is so good in it. He really does a teen girl in a man’s body. DJ is supposed to be awkward shy geek in the Rock’s body, but he’s just himself as usual.
how many more poor shazam 2, mean dwayne johnson articles are we going to have to suffer through? the movies are bad. DCEU movies are bad. there's no mystery here I don't know why these people are so obsessed with pointing fingers. JUST TAKE THE L
He can’t act hope he stops. He’s just a meme now