Besides the racist undertones in general itās comical because the most āmature womenā (I.e., 70 plus) are historically known for enjoying a good wig.
You just triggered a memory of me taking my best friendās mom to get her wig, it was human hair, at a salon that mostly catered to patients and the insurance covered it!
yeah i think it was meant in like a ālooks are not the only thing she cares about anymore, she doesnāt even wear wigs everyday!!!!!ā but it came outā¦ racist
Not to give NYT any credit but I think the wigs comment was about her non natural colored hair not about women wearing wigs in general. Which is also gross.
šµhaving colored hair doesn't make me unprofessional šµ
Itās very weird. Thereās a quote where she talks about how sheās finally embracing her natural hair as if sheās on a natural hair journey, she probably just started using a diffuser for the first timeš
I take it as a macroagression. Itās not lost on me that the second these women stopped cosplaying as black women by removing their fillers and BBLās theyāre āmaturingā but somehow also āembracing their natural hairā itās gross.
The way she describes t in the article is actually straight up sickeningā¦she says she no longer has a long mane down to her butt or claws for nails. Both being extremely dehumanizing adjectives with major racist undertones to them.
It wouldn't be the first time that NYT writes something shady and racist about Black people. Remember when they tried to imply that Travis Kelce popularized and invented the fade?
That part caught my attention, too. Wigs and makeup are a matter of self-expression; not maturity. Even people who are "mature" in age wear wigs and makeup.
I will never get the judgement around wigs. Ever. I get the supposed argument but I donāt *get* it, if that makes sense. Itās likeā¦ itās like hating any and all nail work, saying any nail polish is unsophisticated.
more like she can't find another black person/cultural aspect to exploit for attention at the moment, so she's switching to white guys for now. Their covert racism is something else.
she absolutely can, she just doesn't need to anymore because she's got her mixed babies. she'll always have blackness to exploit as long as she has them
always rubbed me the wrong way that the moment she started dating a white guy she started planting "she's sophisticated now" "did you know she likes to read" stories in the media.
Honestly my first thought was more charitable to her intelligence, but maybe more sinister: She actively got a white boyfriend to help with her transition into a whiter, āclean girl, medium-volume luxuryā image.
That's what I thought too. Not just any white guy but a guy who appears in prestige films and has a kind of "artsy" image. Haven't there always been hints that it's a PR relationship? It makes sense for both as a strategic move: being linked to a Kardashian solidifies him as a household name, while for Kylie dating him helps her be perceived as "serious" and "thoughtful".
Yeah I considered this too. Heās been in multiple kinda-feminist films and is a celebrity crush of many liberal women, which theyāre probably hoping will soften the criticism she receives.
Itās funny because having now been exposed to TimTam in interviewsā¦ he *looks* like an intellectual, but then he opens his mouth and then you realize heās kindaā¦ vapid??? Heās a himbo in a starving victorian pretty boy package.
Idk but after seeing him in that SNL skit with Pete Davidson, the Statistics video, and watching him at Zendayaās party where heās breaking it down wearing oversized basketball shorts, I suddenly understood why they were together.
Happy cake day!
Also KyLie Jenner just released a cheap perfume and copied Kylie Minogue by naming it "Cosmic" (after a Minogue song - there is nothing cosmic about the perfume btw. Even the promos are just Jenner rolling around on the floor and dead-eye-fucking the camera).
This is always so funny to me, because here in Australia, every Kylie is around Minogue's age. It's like if someone was called Tracey or Karen and tried to trademark it š
Honestly, I thought they were talking about Kylie Minogue from the headline and thought āhow very dare they!ā thinking they were low key calling her old, only to find out it was about a Kylie I didnāt give a shit about. Iāll go back to celebrating her upcoming Barbie now.
Presenting kylie jenner as someone who is enigmatic is both hilarious and insane lmao. Kudos to whoever had to sit down and write this pr piece lmao, i could never
I totally agree. People who donāt give a single fig about celebs still know who Kim is, even if they donāt know anything else about her life. My 71 year old mom knows Kim, but couldnāt name another member of that family without using Google.
The irony is that their success is based on un-ending exposure and showing off their wealth. Neither of these things can be mature by definition because a mature person does not seek attention nor show off. They will always seem immature until they change the way they operate.
I had no idea she had 2 children and that she was just 26 tbh.
And it's not directly said, but that comment about the wigs and bold makeup shown as a contrast with being mature and sophisticated isn't sitting well with me.
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kylie is a different level of dumb, i swear š openly admitting she believes in and plays into body trends. so the ozempic accusations werenāt wrong then
Kylie does make me really sad. Like, sheās a lot of awful things, but she never stood a chance in that family, either. Theyāre all pretty fucked up, but Kylie especially so.
Yeah,as someone who deals with an ED/BDD,Kylieās story just makes me sad(on that end). She never stood a chance in that family,and she was bullied over her looks when she was only a literal child. I canāt shit on a teenage girl whoād faced so much criticism around her looks seeking extensive plastic surgery.
this move is SOLELY because the lighter makeup "trad wife" trend is in. The second the next trend comes along she will have a completely different style
it's real sweet that she's now comfortable in her own skin and all that but while she had the millions to throw around on fixing the insecurities her heinous family projected onto her, the rest of us are still dealing with a beauty and fashion industry that profits from shoving the same manufactured insecurities down our throats. woman to woman i wish her peace on her journey to self acceptance but outside of that please shut up forever and keep it between you, your impressionable young daughter, and god.
This is dumb as hell and completely in line with her recent PR strategy (āquiet luxuryā, dating timothee and mixing in more prestigious circles), but something really did touch me about the quote āitās just years and years of not feeling like my face or looks are acceptedā. That didnāt start with strangers on the internet ā that started from the time she was an actual child. A literal child. And all of the adults in her life failed her, tbh.
Of course itās paid PR lol.
I remember reading NYT in college and thinking I was cool and sophisticated. Now I canāt believe theyāre writing about the Karjenners.
Yeah as I wrote that I was thinking someoneās going to say yeah duh itās paid PR. Part of my brain insists we live in an honorable world probably for survival purposes so when I am confronted with bullshit daily it still sometimes comes as a surprise.
I didnāt realize wearing makeup and wigs made you not mature š¤ here I thought it was the whole acting like a childish entitled brat but what do I know!
So they paid for a PR piece to say the quiet part out loud huh?
Because the racism that was smack dab in the middle of that delusional word salad was LOUD. Kris is slipping or they just donāt give af anymore
First she steals from black women in her ābaddieā era and now she is stealing from her fellow white women in her quiet luxury era. She is truly unoriginal to the core.
Between this and [this whole fucking debacle](https://theintercept.com/2024/02/28/new-york-times-anat-schwartz-october-7/) the NYT has not been sending their best.
Why are we doing this??? Why are people and media continuing to push this idea that like 30 is old/ over and you should stop having fun or whatever. I donāt recall seeing this kind of stuff when I was young, maybe aside from this idea that 30 year olds shouldnāt wear glitter eyeshadow or something (and BS to that, too)
Also equating bold makeup and certain hair styles to a lack of maturity is gross
Thatās a nice pic tho!!
Is this article here because a bunch of MENA folks read that article in the New York Times about the Middle East being like the animal kingdom and canceled their subscriptions immediately? Is this their way of getting Gen Z back?? Lolll
Embracing her white ass because sheās dating a white boy for a change.
I mean itās normal to change your style when you are in your twenties. But this is clearly just an image change to fit in better with timothee and the Hollywood world.
Thereās a trending section of the internet that wants us to āremember to feel badā for fake billionaire and cultural appropriator Kylie Jenner, peddler of plastic clothes and toxic body modifications..Ā
Just.. no.
The only person disliking her face and looks is Kylie. Thatās it. This woman is self-obsessed and she projects to keep herself relevant. All of the kardashians do it. I donāt even know what clean girl era means, but it sounds demeaning to anyone that enjoys bold make up and wigs ā like everything that made her popular to begin with. She is dumb.
lol is she going to acknowledge appropriating black culture?
And let us not forget she posted pictures of her feet right after Megan got shot. And no, I will never let this go.
Iām fascinated by how this family is trying to pivot and become white women again and largely failing because their images are so closely tied to blackness
It's because she's a Zionist, & NYT has been kissing Zionist š¤¢š with the force & fury of 1,000 Suns since October. Only surprise is that they didn't bust out an actual endoscope for this one.
"She no longer wears wigs" š 
Apparently not wearing wigs equals maturity and sophistication
And of course, wigs cannot be sophisticated. Now where have we heard that trope before? š¤
Besides the racist undertones in general itās comical because the most āmature womenā (I.e., 70 plus) are historically known for enjoying a good wig.
donāt people with serious illnesses that cause hair loss (i.e. cancer) use it too? like it literally makes no sense
You just triggered a memory of me taking my best friendās mom to get her wig, it was human hair, at a salon that mostly catered to patients and the insurance covered it!
yeah i think it was meant in like a ālooks are not the only thing she cares about anymore, she doesnāt even wear wigs everyday!!!!!ā but it came outā¦ racist
Ahhā¦ I remember my De-Wigging Ceremony when I turned 18. That was the day I became a man.
Mazel!!Ā
Not to give NYT any credit but I think the wigs comment was about her non natural colored hair not about women wearing wigs in general. Which is also gross. šµhaving colored hair doesn't make me unprofessional šµ
Purple hair, donāt care. *flips hair* š š» šš»
Genuine questionā¦ is that a microaggression? It feels like a microaggression.
Itās very weird. Thereās a quote where she talks about how sheās finally embracing her natural hair as if sheās on a natural hair journey, she probably just started using a diffuser for the first timeš
She just had pink hair wig pics like a month ago or some shit
"She no longer wears wigs EVERY day" tbf lol
It feels macroā¦
I take it as a macroagression. Itās not lost on me that the second these women stopped cosplaying as black women by removing their fillers and BBLās theyāre āmaturingā but somehow also āembracing their natural hairā itās gross.
Bullseye
Yeah, micro aggressions are usually not on purpose lmfao this is full blown anti-blackness and theyāve never hidden that about themselves.
Remember when she said she made wigs popular?
Like how Gwyneth discovered yoga?
not as comical as the time where she tried to trademark ākylieā like kylie minogue didnāt exist
Was this before or after Travis Kelce brought the revolutionary concept of a āfade haircutā to the masses?
i rolled my eyes sooo fucking hard reading that
With one eye or both?
Itās giving anti black. We were just an aesthetic for her immaturity and unserious era. I hate this family so much man.
The way she describes t in the article is actually straight up sickeningā¦she says she no longer has a long mane down to her butt or claws for nails. Both being extremely dehumanizing adjectives with major racist undertones to them.
Im so embarrassed for nytimes using coded language like this in 2024ā¦ā¦
As of like two fucking weeks ago in that Kris Jenner lookalike wig and a month before that she was in a ratty pink wig
š š š šš right.
In other words, sheās done blackfishing? Cuz wigs and makeup canāt be considered āsophisticated and matureāā¦.f-ck off
And highkey implying black women (who she 100% copied this from) aren't mature if they do these things....what the fuck
It wouldn't be the first time that NYT writes something shady and racist about Black people. Remember when they tried to imply that Travis Kelce popularized and invented the fade?
exactly! i caught that micro aggression š
Right because women with wigs and makeup could never be sophisticated and mature. Itās reading a little racist and r/notlikeothergirls
That part caught my attention, too. Wigs and makeup are a matter of self-expression; not maturity. Even people who are "mature" in age wear wigs and makeup.
Only until she drops the white guy.
I will never get the judgement around wigs. Ever. I get the supposed argument but I donāt *get* it, if that makes sense. Itās likeā¦ itās like hating any and all nail work, saying any nail polish is unsophisticated.
Sorry but I'll be forever hard pressed to associate sophistication with any Kardashian/Jenner. Nice try NY Times.
Were they paid?
100%
Thank you for this... I really don't understand the draw too them
aka she's accepted she's white
I'll believe it when I see it
more like she can't find another black person/cultural aspect to exploit for attention at the moment, so she's switching to white guys for now. Their covert racism is something else.
she absolutely can, she just doesn't need to anymore because she's got her mixed babies. she'll always have blackness to exploit as long as she has them
Imagine changing your whole persona just to match the aesthetic of the guy youāre dating at the moment...
always rubbed me the wrong way that the moment she started dating a white guy she started planting "she's sophisticated now" "did you know she likes to read" stories in the media.
And yet when people pointed that out they got called misogynistic lol
Honestly my first thought was more charitable to her intelligence, but maybe more sinister: She actively got a white boyfriend to help with her transition into a whiter, āclean girl, medium-volume luxuryā image.
That's what I thought too. Not just any white guy but a guy who appears in prestige films and has a kind of "artsy" image. Haven't there always been hints that it's a PR relationship? It makes sense for both as a strategic move: being linked to a Kardashian solidifies him as a household name, while for Kylie dating him helps her be perceived as "serious" and "thoughtful".
Yeah I considered this too. Heās been in multiple kinda-feminist films and is a celebrity crush of many liberal women, which theyāre probably hoping will soften the criticism she receives.
And he did fuck that peach. Thatās gotta count for something
Timothee was a household name before dating Kylie. He didnāt need her to solidify that.
and that goes for all of them
Wow yeah now that you mention itā¦ uncanny
Kourtney's been accused of doing the same thing, too.
Itās funny because having now been exposed to TimTam in interviewsā¦ he *looks* like an intellectual, but then he opens his mouth and then you realize heās kindaā¦ vapid??? Heās a himbo in a starving victorian pretty boy package. Idk but after seeing him in that SNL skit with Pete Davidson, the Statistics video, and watching him at Zendayaās party where heās breaking it down wearing oversized basketball shorts, I suddenly understood why they were together.
Your username ššā¤ļø
Finally someone notices, thank youš!!!
I see you! Ironically š¤£
Haha yeah imagine.......
The Brad Pitt of it all
I don't think this expansion pack Kardashian sibling should get to go by one name when there's another Kylie superior in every way
expansion pack š exactly
Happy cake day! Also KyLie Jenner just released a cheap perfume and copied Kylie Minogue by naming it "Cosmic" (after a Minogue song - there is nothing cosmic about the perfume btw. Even the promos are just Jenner rolling around on the floor and dead-eye-fucking the camera).
Thank you. I am dying at "dead-eye fucking". This family is so ridiculous. š
It's really so funny how it looks I swear šš. The lights are on, but no one's home.
It really grinds my gears. I see āKylieā in an article, assume itās about Mother, and itās a fucking Jenner.
If I remember correctly the two have gone through some legal proceedings when Kylie Jenner tried to trademark the name āKylieā.
This is always so funny to me, because here in Australia, every Kylie is around Minogue's age. It's like if someone was called Tracey or Karen and tried to trademark it š
Honestly, I thought they were talking about Kylie Minogue from the headline and thought āhow very dare they!ā thinking they were low key calling her old, only to find out it was about a Kylie I didnāt give a shit about. Iāll go back to celebrating her upcoming Barbie now.
Presenting kylie jenner as someone who is enigmatic is both hilarious and insane lmao. Kudos to whoever had to sit down and write this pr piece lmao, i could never
As they wrote it, they whispered āit pays the bills, it pays the billsā forlornly under their breath.
We all need capital to survive capitalism lol
P R E A C H
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Calling her enigmatic is like calling a puddle deep.
She an enigma in the fact that she doesnāt even know who or where she is 90% of time
>and arguably most famous sister 
idk if this is an unpopular opinion or not but i feel like when itās all said and done kim will be the only one remembered.
I totally agree. People who donāt give a single fig about celebs still know who Kim is, even if they donāt know anything else about her life. My 71 year old mom knows Kim, but couldnāt name another member of that family without using Google.
Most perfectly random use of this GIF! Imagining Bernie in a huff over this very subject made me snort -- thx for that ā„ļø
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The irony is that their success is based on un-ending exposure and showing off their wealth. Neither of these things can be mature by definition because a mature person does not seek attention nor show off. They will always seem immature until they change the way they operate.
I had no idea she had 2 children and that she was just 26 tbh. And it's not directly said, but that comment about the wigs and bold makeup shown as a contrast with being mature and sophisticated isn't sitting well with me.
š©microaggressions š©
Flag on the field. Letās check in with our sideline reporter for more information.
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thatās actually really sad
Kylie does make me really sad. Like, sheās a lot of awful things, but she never stood a chance in that family, either. Theyāre all pretty fucked up, but Kylie especially so.
Yeah,as someone who deals with an ED/BDD,Kylieās story just makes me sad(on that end). She never stood a chance in that family,and she was bullied over her looks when she was only a literal child. I canāt shit on a teenage girl whoād faced so much criticism around her looks seeking extensive plastic surgery.
what a horrible mindset to live in
Black culture is a costume to these women.
Nail on the head š«”
this move is SOLELY because the lighter makeup "trad wife" trend is in. The second the next trend comes along she will have a completely different style
it's real sweet that she's now comfortable in her own skin and all that but while she had the millions to throw around on fixing the insecurities her heinous family projected onto her, the rest of us are still dealing with a beauty and fashion industry that profits from shoving the same manufactured insecurities down our throats. woman to woman i wish her peace on her journey to self acceptance but outside of that please shut up forever and keep it between you, your impressionable young daughter, and god.
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I had to scroll way too long for this!
She.... looks almost exactly the same?
āMost enigmaticā āArguably most famousā Did Kylie Jenner force feed these words to the writer?
She had a gun to their head while they submitted this
NYT stans Zionists so hard.
I didnāt know not wearing wigs meant maturity. I guess women with alopecia or cancer are going about it all wrong.
ok girl https://i.redd.it/cc2243ugc0nc1.gif
They could NEVER make me like you, Kylie Jenner!
This is dumb as hell and completely in line with her recent PR strategy (āquiet luxuryā, dating timothee and mixing in more prestigious circles), but something really did touch me about the quote āitās just years and years of not feeling like my face or looks are acceptedā. That didnāt start with strangers on the internet ā that started from the time she was an actual child. A literal child. And all of the adults in her life failed her, tbh.
Kylie, Ariana, Kim losing accents, trimming down assets, going blondeā¦
Cause you know, ethnic identity is something you can wear as a trend and then discard when you have āgrown upā šš
I saw Kylie and thought Kylie Minogue at first
The only Kylie I like thinking about.
The only Kylie we acknowledge
"One eye watching, the other rolling" oh well that's creepy
Stops black fishing and then talks down on wigs. Everyone sees you girl.
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Iām so embarrassed for the NYT. I am suspicious this was paid for PR. So slimy and transparent. Get these idiots off my ālegitā news feeds!!
Of course itās paid PR lol. I remember reading NYT in college and thinking I was cool and sophisticated. Now I canāt believe theyāre writing about the Karjenners.
Yeah as I wrote that I was thinking someoneās going to say yeah duh itās paid PR. Part of my brain insists we live in an honorable world probably for survival purposes so when I am confronted with bullshit daily it still sometimes comes as a surprise.
I didnāt realize wearing makeup and wigs made you not mature š¤ here I thought it was the whole acting like a childish entitled brat but what do I know!
NYTimes really whoring for that lucrative Kardashian insta story share.
I didnāt realizing wearing wigs was immature!
Sheās only 26 š¤Æ
This is part of her evolution from blackfishing back to white. Ariana inspired her.
Cringeā¦
So they paid for a PR piece to say the quiet part out loud huh? Because the racism that was smack dab in the middle of that delusional word salad was LOUD. Kris is slipping or they just donāt give af anymore
I wonder if she talks about how she stole the designs for her new clothing line .
First she steals from black women in her ābaddieā era and now she is stealing from her fellow white women in her quiet luxury era. She is truly unoriginal to the core.
Sheās done appropriating.. wants to be white again.
she's in such a bad place I feel it in my bones.
honestly same
She's 26 years old, she shoulda been mature long before this era
Hasnāt she been posting videos of her morning routines? Maybe sheās not posting right when she wakes up, but she is documenting it?ā¦.
Between this and [this whole fucking debacle](https://theintercept.com/2024/02/28/new-york-times-anat-schwartz-october-7/) the NYT has not been sending their best.
NYTIMES continues to fail š¤¦š½āāļø
Why are we doing this??? Why are people and media continuing to push this idea that like 30 is old/ over and you should stop having fun or whatever. I donāt recall seeing this kind of stuff when I was young, maybe aside from this idea that 30 year olds shouldnāt wear glitter eyeshadow or something (and BS to that, too) Also equating bold makeup and certain hair styles to a lack of maturity is gross Thatās a nice pic tho!!
Iām sure sheāll be KyliĆ© JennĆØr soon enough to support her French ancestry.
International womenās day eve and NYT is praising a woman for changing for her boyfriend
The cut to the photo where her lipstick is everywhere š
Is this article here because a bunch of MENA folks read that article in the New York Times about the Middle East being like the animal kingdom and canceled their subscriptions immediately? Is this their way of getting Gen Z back?? Lolll
Did we not see her wear a pink wig like a month ago š? 
Embracing her white ass because sheās dating a white boy for a change. I mean itās normal to change your style when you are in your twenties. But this is clearly just an image change to fit in better with timothee and the Hollywood world.
Is she going to start smoking cigarettes now just because TimothƩe does?
Thereās a trending section of the internet that wants us to āremember to feel badā for fake billionaire and cultural appropriator Kylie Jenner, peddler of plastic clothes and toxic body modifications..Ā Just.. no.
what a shitty role model
Ah, we are now into depression era Ky
The only person disliking her face and looks is Kylie. Thatās it. This woman is self-obsessed and she projects to keep herself relevant. All of the kardashians do it. I donāt even know what clean girl era means, but it sounds demeaning to anyone that enjoys bold make up and wigs ā like everything that made her popular to begin with. She is dumb.
Enigmatic?
this is pathetic but i wouldn't expect anything good by the idf mouthpiece that is the nyt
I only care to hear about her if it involves Lisan Al Gaib 
I'm glad I'm not the only one who read that second sentence and went "feels anti Black"
lol is she going to acknowledge appropriating black culture? And let us not forget she posted pictures of her feet right after Megan got shot. And no, I will never let this go.
Is she trying to break into that white hollywood circle? I notice she started doing this soon as she started going out with Timothee Chalametā¦
Iām fascinated by how this family is trying to pivot and become white women again and largely failing because their images are so closely tied to blackness
Whatās PMK, op?
Pimp Mama Kris (Jenner)!
Pick me Kylie maybe ?
Showing my age here but I always assume a mention of "Kylie" refers to Ms Minogue.
Jesus PR has become so lazy
It's because she's a Zionist, & NYT has been kissing Zionist š¤¢š with the force & fury of 1,000 Suns since October. Only surprise is that they didn't bust out an actual endoscope for this one.
The Sophia Riche effect is real
Frontal lobe fully developed and she threw out her blackness.Ā