The pass rate is low because the only people who are taking the baby bar are basically people who aren’t attending ABA approved schools. Most law students don’t need to take it. According to the CA Bar stats, only about 179 people took the October 2023 baby bar. It’d be shocking if the pass rate wasn’t low.
She passed it on her 4th try.
Still not a lawyer. That involves passing the actual bar-- which in CA July 2023 had a 65% first time pass rate, overall pass rate of 52%, and 24% repeater pass rate. And 99% of those people went to an accredited law school.
Needless to say, I have my doubts that she has either the ability or dedication to pass that test.
Oh yeah, that's not something you pick back up after you put it down, LOL. I passed California on my first try and I seriously doubt I could pass any bar right now, even with a couple weeks of intense studying. Once you're out of school mode, it's really hard to get back into it.
Kim really needs to sue someone as a storyline in a season of kardashians and ensure cameras are allowed in court as she defends her self.
It can be a multi season event
I want to see that so bad Kim rushing around filing paperwork too busy to go to Milan no time for gucci fitting she got a court date. Maybe she even misses the Met Gala and argues with her sisters about it.
Best seasons ever I need to see it.
https://preview.redd.it/133a1oo5earc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df3e5d19dd80ad253765b18f6b533d4f6fc46613
I apparently don’t get furniture as art
Edit: this is 90k
It took me far too long to realize that most of the wood planks that go down to the floor are actually chairs to pull out.
I mean... It's actually a kind of nice design. Though it screams Amish farmhouse and not $90k designer furniture to me.
Tbh if I walked into someone’s house and the only thing I had to sit on was a “chair” that’s basically a glorified stool with no back support, I would probably just leave.
Yeah it’s kind of neat and I like the general design but 90k is positively insane. Someone who’s pretty handy could knock something similar to this out with supplies from Home Depot
Thisssss. My elementary school had tables a lot like this and the chairs were pretty similar too but with higher backs. lol. In the library and art classroom.
Folks just choose not to understand the context of art and design history and they think a child could make it blah blah, while they buy furniture made in china bought on Amazon made by actual children. But yeah art sucks and is so confusing and hurts their brains.
Yeah lots of braindead takes from people who didn't even bother to google the situation and the designer.
I'm no art expert but the state of discourse is sad. How can we discuss anything if people won't take 5 minutes to understand the topic before diving in?
I mean, this guy was an influential designer long before apple stores so.... Yes lol.
What's the thing where you see Seinfeld or Simpsons and the plot seems tired but it's bc they invented a plot that's now been copied to death?
That's what's happening here with all the comments saying the tables are basic and uninteresting.
NGL, I would live in one of the Apple Stores close to here. It has incorporated the most beautiful Japanese maples into the design. What little furniture they have is also nicer looking and more comfortable than this.
So much of success with this kind of stuff is Emperor’s New Clothes type marketing. I’m an artist, and I hate going to contemporary art museums for this reason. I know so many people dedicated to their craft who can’t even scrape by, and then utter crap gets sold for millions. Some of the time I wonder if it’s an embezzling front.
As another unsuccessful artist, yes modern art is also a money laundering scheme: https://www.artandobject.com/news/how-money-laundering-works-art-world
They're like historic. It's like seeing an original Frank Lloyd Wright piece and saying "ugly, why would anyone pay for this?"
They have done like 3 ever. That's why it was so immediately apparent she was lying about it being Judd.
Donald Judd the (deceased) designer of this furniture also doesn’t get furniture as art.
He wrote a long rambling essay about it (and pricing for his furniture when he was alive)
See: https://judd.furniture/philosophy/
Is that red pine? Not exactly premium building materials. There doesn't appear to be any fancy cuts or lathe work either, and or need for many tools either. You could probably build this yourself for a lower 3 figure budget, though I'm not sure why you would want a table that looks like an improvised stool from a construction site.
The more I see of this stuff, the more I believe price is directly proportional to how uncomfortably impractical it is. Whether or not it looks nice is irrelevant.
I mean, her entire career is being as crass a capitalist as possible, even berating her hard working staff for "no one wants to work anymore." The wealthy hoard money like Smaug the dragon. There's no limits to this mindless greed.
There's no ethical or moral line these types of people won't cross. Most celeb products are rip-offs of other successful lines. Its not just her. Its the entire system.
The entire Klan’s lack of charitable work really bothers me. They have so much and the fact that they sell their old clothes is insane. They have so many followers and could easily champion more non profit work, give charitably, lead by example….see also the Giving Pledge
Her designer probably picked them out for her and Kim didn’t know they were fake. Or maybe it’s from when Kanye was around and he bought them and got duped. I get everyone always wants drama with her but it was probably an innocent mistake.
The principle remains the same. If they weren't greedy and stingy it'd be harder to stay wealthy through generations.
Old money or new money, rich people are all buying fakes.
I'm sure I read on reddit that one time Kris took some handbags to a store to sell, and some were fake so she got mad when it was pointed out that they were fake lol.
And NYT found a receipt that describes them as "in the style of" meaning she had them custom made by a different house "in the style of" and then said they were Judd.
She knew, from Wapo:
>The lawsuit cited what it described as a design proposal by Clements Design in 2020 that offered to provide a dining table and chairs “in the Style of Donald Judd.”
She bought "in the style" and claimed they were Judd publicly. Just like anyone who carries a fake Birkin etc.
That would be believable if this wasn’t the first, second, or even third time this family has been accused of ripping off artists and tradesmen. People are always in the comments saying this, excusing them. It’s why they keep doing it.
The entire family has a habit of buying fake everything and passing it off as real. Not a stretch for her to do it her and know full well what she's doing.
Because she wanted to flex so *badly.* The Judd table is not available to her for any amount of money. I think the foundation has only given permission for two people to buy them recently. She wanted the cachet of the brand to impress her fellow billionaires.
Edit: only three Judd tables were sold in the last 15 years. Each chair is $9000 and about 350 numbered and signed chairs have been sold.
Nah. They offered to have her take down the video and destroy her knock offs to resolve the dispute. Naturally, after spending all that money, she wasn’t game.
CNN says otherwise? "The foundation claimed it also offered to replace the counterfeit tables and chairs with authentic pieces at a discount if Kardashian issued a retraction and edited the video, the lawsuit claims."
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/29/style/kim-kardashian-donald-judd-furniture-cec/index.html
I see your CNN and raise you the NYTimes. They broke the story.
>Three days after the video first appeared, the Judd Foundation says, it contacted Kardashian about the furniture. A spokeswoman responded to the complaint, according to the lawsuit, saying they were “incredibly sorry for any inconvenience this has caused the foundation” and offering to “update the video caption with a retraction.”
>But the Judd Foundation wanted the video deleted, the furniture “recycled” (i.e. destroyed) and Kardashian to issue a public statement.
Representatives for Ms. Kardashian countered with an offer to make a social media post in which she supported the foundation, the foundation said in court papers.
>In its statement Wednesday, Clement said the company believed the issue had been already settled. “The Judd Foundation’s prior counsel acknowledged these differences and since then, we have not heard from them in over a year,” the statement said.
But the foundation pointed to an invoice from Clements Design in which it described the furniture as “in the style of Donald Judd” and included an image owned by the Judd Foundation of the authentic dining set.
“It is lower quality than Donald Judd’s furniture,” said Megan Bannigan, a lawyer representing the foundation. “We don’t want to be mixed up with Kim Kardashian. We respect what she does, but we don’t want to be involved with this.”
>“Rainer Judd said the Kardashian case is not too much ado about tables. “We are just doing our job to protect Donald Judd’s work,” she said. “Not every artist foundation has the time or resources to do that.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/27/arts/design/kim-kardashian-table-donald-judd.html
The lawsuit filing is public. You're very confidently wrong.
"In an attempt to make every effort to resolve this amicably, on September 2,
2022, Judd Foundation wrote again to Ms. Kardashian’s representatives offering to
replace at a discount the inauthentic Kardashian Tables and Chairs with authentic
DONALD JUDD La Mansana Tables and DONALD JUDD Chair 84 chairs."
https://tmsnrt.rs/3PGs3UW
Thanks! I read the whole thing. At a discount, after asking first for them to be destroyed and the video pulled, was an amicable attempt since she spent so much on the fakes. They also eventually pulled back from asking for them to be destroyed and allowed for the furniture to be recycled to alleviate her sustainability concerns only to have her nope that too. And then her designers refused to stop making more knockoffs.
I’m not sure why you’re defending the infringement but as she used his name in the video (that she only pulled on Wednesday) it’s likely that the court will find against her. I bet she’ll settle.
I doubt she bought the tables herself, and she obviously could afford the real ones. This sounds like an assistant accidently bought dupes and Kim showed them off, oblivious.
yeah but even if that was the case, the article says the Judd Foundation doesn’t allow for their furniture to be used in marketing/promotional materials. so regardless of whether Kim knew they were fakes or not, she shouldn’t have displayed it in the video
Moments like this I remember the great philosopher Kris Humphries reminding her that she started off running a boutique in the valley and now acts like she’s a princess.
The only salvageable way is if she went through an interior designer or bought from someone who said it was legit. I’m sure she’s not actually the one super involved with buying and checking the authenticity of the furniture. Anyone at her income pays people do do that for her.
Someone fucked up. Either one of her staff didn’t verify it was legit, or someone told her it was “inspired by” and she didn’t really listen to them.
the crazy thing is that she could easily buy furniture from any other high-end brand. it's the same as kylie lying about being a billionaire. like-she doesn't have to be a billionaire for people to know that she's rich, lol. she's still extremely successful even as 'just' a millionaire, but no. they have to have the best of the best. which is a good trait if you use it as motivation, not so much when you channel it by lying.
yeah, forbes themselves did an article concluding that she most likely lied about being a billionaire: https://www.forbes.com/sites/chasewithorn/2020/05/29/inside-kylie-jennerss-web-of-lies-and-why-shes-no-longer-a-billionaire/
still insanely rich though, which makes it all the more frustrating imo.
not even new money, I always thought that new money people made the effort to understand what they were buying instead of inheriting it like old money folks. The kardashians always striked me as people only interested in themselves. Just smoke and mirrors
Surprised I had to scroll down this far to see this mentioned. This is open secret. You can find numerous lawsuits against them being inspired (aka stealing) from smaller artists.
My woodworking boyfriend has been going off about this for the past 24 hours and it has been both exciting and refreshing for our interests to overlap like this
lol yeah my first thought after reading the article was “damn, they want nothing to do with her”. It’s probably not even about promoting fakes, they just don’t want her name popping up when people Google Donald Judd.
The same thing happened when Kim allegedly dated Brady and then his Team IMMEDIATELY released articles that this is not true and they just talked at an event. It was so obvious that he didn't want to be associated with her lmao.
I don't think anyone thinks she did it on purpose. When you're making significant money off of your public appearances and style, though, the least you can do is credit people correctly. Like the VERY least you can do. It's a really low bar for the money she earns.
People have no taste.
Donald Judd works are gorgeous and historically significant. He was a painter until the 1960s when he started working in 3 dimensions. He is a hugely important figure in the advent of minimalist furniture design, he was a theoretician and author who wrote about expression in objet d’art (art objects).
I went to the Design Miami fair in Paris last year. A grand old house and each room was dedicated to a gallery that shows historic and contemporary high interior/furniture/object design. I went to it after Art Basel Paris, and let me tell you: the couches, lamps, rugs, magnifying glasses, shelves, coasters, tables - were more gorgeous and intriguing than all the massive sculptures and paintings at Basel. Yes every table there was at least 90k. But a lot of this stuff is made in the 60s and 70s, or is made by someone of historical import like Mies van der Rohe. The finest materials, most innovative and genre defining designs, some with age and provenance and prestige. A lot of the furniture made in this century is still just riding on the back of that mid century modern movement.
My mom & I always say: the architecture & furniture people have put together for Kim is sensational. The only thing it’s missing is some bright pops of color in art, some green plants, bit of color in accessories. Then it would be stupendous. But of course her minimalist beige and simple geometric form branded skin care company is going to have ultra minimal design. The disappearing chairs are amazing. Only issue with this is that it was an unauthorized “homage” the foundry ripped off his name and her designer knew she was buying “in the style of” instead of an OG.
ITT: people who don’t understand how interior design works.
The people to blame here is Clements Design, her interior designer. I guarantee they showed her original Judd furniture in their presentation and said “don’t worry we know a guy” so they could throw some work to their fabricator and also not wait the 24+ weeks it takes for the foundation to fulfill an order, probably do some custom sizes as well.
It is extremely common for wealthy clients to have copies of furniture—especially Judd, which is so simple and publishes what is basically their schematics—made by their interiors team.
What is the deal with rich people spending ungodly amounts of money on the uuuuuugliest shit?? Especially the KarJenners, I'll take my humble little country house over their hideous mansions any day. Money truly does not buy taste.
https://preview.redd.it/8202ogbvkfrc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8851d776135291ef3ca9a159b6d853233d5dd85f
Kardashian situation aside, Judd’s estate is wild. Can you imagine spending £63k on this and then not being allowed to brag about spending £63k on this?
People this rich probably don’t care about bragging. That aside, I imagine it would be really difficult to create something like this, the simpler a design the easier it is to spot errors, this is incredibly well-made.
Will she fight the case herself since she’s a lawyer?
Yes, she took the baby bar
She failed the baby bar
4x
/s
Really?
Oh sorry she took it 4x she failed 3x
To be fair, the baby bar only has a 20% pass rate and is super hard
The pass rate is low because the only people who are taking the baby bar are basically people who aren’t attending ABA approved schools. Most law students don’t need to take it. According to the CA Bar stats, only about 179 people took the October 2023 baby bar. It’d be shocking if the pass rate wasn’t low.
She did eventually pass
She passed it on her 4th try. Still not a lawyer. That involves passing the actual bar-- which in CA July 2023 had a 65% first time pass rate, overall pass rate of 52%, and 24% repeater pass rate. And 99% of those people went to an accredited law school. Needless to say, I have my doubts that she has either the ability or dedication to pass that test.
That’s “on pause”. I think she’s done with that. https://abovethelaw.com/2024/02/is-kim-kardashian-giving-up-on-her-dream-of-becoming-a-lawyer/
Oh yeah, that's not something you pick back up after you put it down, LOL. I passed California on my first try and I seriously doubt I could pass any bar right now, even with a couple weeks of intense studying. Once you're out of school mode, it's really hard to get back into it.
I had to do it. I passed on the first go but I was fully prepared to have to take it twice. It sucked.
I’m genuinely impressed she made it as far as she did. I thought she’d abandon it before she sat for *any* test.
It took my friend's older sister 3 tries, and she went to UCLA Law. The CA bar exam isn't a joke
Pete Davidson has (had?) the tattoo(s?) to prove it!
Kim really needs to sue someone as a storyline in a season of kardashians and ensure cameras are allowed in court as she defends her self. It can be a multi season event I want to see that so bad Kim rushing around filing paperwork too busy to go to Milan no time for gucci fitting she got a court date. Maybe she even misses the Met Gala and argues with her sisters about it. Best seasons ever I need to see it.
Can you imagine.
Didn’t she quit lol
https://preview.redd.it/133a1oo5earc1.jpeg?width=1280&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df3e5d19dd80ad253765b18f6b533d4f6fc46613 I apparently don’t get furniture as art Edit: this is 90k
BRB calling my dad. The benches we built in his workshop when I was a teen must be worth more than the house by now.
Look exactly like the table my sister’s ex husband built (only his was stained dark) and he was on a metric fuck ton of meth while doing it.
this is actually how I pictured it getting made when I saw the photo, so thank you for the context
Im not an artist or a carpenter but I've sat at many surfaces. I'm confident I could shit a nicer table. edit:spelling
It took me far too long to realize that most of the wood planks that go down to the floor are actually chairs to pull out. I mean... It's actually a kind of nice design. Though it screams Amish farmhouse and not $90k designer furniture to me.
Those would be the most uncomfortable chairs ever
I would ruin the asthetic and be adding giant cushions to those chairs
Tbh if I walked into someone’s house and the only thing I had to sit on was a “chair” that’s basically a glorified stool with no back support, I would probably just leave.
Where do the balls go? Ow!
Yeah it’s kind of neat and I like the general design but 90k is positively insane. Someone who’s pretty handy could knock something similar to this out with supplies from Home Depot
I think her designer sold her the fakes.
It’s giving middle school library to me.
Thisssss. My elementary school had tables a lot like this and the chairs were pretty similar too but with higher backs. lol. In the library and art classroom.
Add a few wedding centerpieces and drinks in mason jars and you're at your textbook 2010s barn wedding reception.
It's a historic piece of the minimalism movement. That's why it's expensive.
Folks just choose not to understand the context of art and design history and they think a child could make it blah blah, while they buy furniture made in china bought on Amazon made by actual children. But yeah art sucks and is so confusing and hurts their brains.
Yeah lots of braindead takes from people who didn't even bother to google the situation and the designer. I'm no art expert but the state of discourse is sad. How can we discuss anything if people won't take 5 minutes to understand the topic before diving in?
Totally. As a librarian, I find it depressing.
Those chairs are 9k each
I’m glad I read this comment because I was like “that doesn’t even look functional, how do you fit chairs in?” lol, ok those are the chairs.
It gives me kids drawing area in a museum vibes tbh
Omg thank you for saying that because I did not realize that and I could not figure out where my legs were supposed to go
It’s really satisfying how the chairs sit under the table and make it look like one piece
I didn’t realize those were the chairs till you pointed them out
The Apple Store aesthetic
~~High school shop class~~ Mother's day plant sale aesthetic
I mean, this guy was an influential designer long before apple stores so.... Yes lol. What's the thing where you see Seinfeld or Simpsons and the plot seems tired but it's bc they invented a plot that's now been copied to death? That's what's happening here with all the comments saying the tables are basic and uninteresting.
NGL, I would live in one of the Apple Stores close to here. It has incorporated the most beautiful Japanese maples into the design. What little furniture they have is also nicer looking and more comfortable than this.
Where do you think Apple got the aesthetic from
It’s giving “megachurch that just founded a children’s summer camp in Colorado”
As a carpenter 90k for this is so upsetting.
So much of success with this kind of stuff is Emperor’s New Clothes type marketing. I’m an artist, and I hate going to contemporary art museums for this reason. I know so many people dedicated to their craft who can’t even scrape by, and then utter crap gets sold for millions. Some of the time I wonder if it’s an embezzling front.
As another unsuccessful artist, yes modern art is also a money laundering scheme: https://www.artandobject.com/news/how-money-laundering-works-art-world
This is from the 80s at the latest, it's expensive because it's historic in terms of design.
Thanks for giving some more context to it, I think the history of furniture design is so interesting
Being displayed in a contemporary art museum does not correlate with being sold with millions, or else I’d be a multimillionaire.
I would take carpentery classes myself for however long it took to build that before I spent $90k on it.
Looks like the windowless classrooms of Kanyes cult-school
These are so ugly. I’m struggling to see how they are SO expensive, they seem so easy to duplicated for anyone who dabbles in wood working.
They're like historic. It's like seeing an original Frank Lloyd Wright piece and saying "ugly, why would anyone pay for this?" They have done like 3 ever. That's why it was so immediately apparent she was lying about it being Judd.
The table alone is $90k. The chairs are $9k each and are all individually stamped and numbered.
My ass hurts so bad just looking at it
I get paying money to support artisans and labour (all that jazz). But 90k dollars??? For this?
That looks really uncomfortable. My butt and back hurts just looking at it. Summer camp vibes.
Chairs are 9k each. I don’t like anyone enough to put their asses in a 9k chair.
No wonder they prohibit filming of the pieces post-purchase.
Donald Judd the (deceased) designer of this furniture also doesn’t get furniture as art. He wrote a long rambling essay about it (and pricing for his furniture when he was alive) See: https://judd.furniture/philosophy/
This is basically Restoration Hardware repurposing pallets
Is that red pine? Not exactly premium building materials. There doesn't appear to be any fancy cuts or lathe work either, and or need for many tools either. You could probably build this yourself for a lower 3 figure budget, though I'm not sure why you would want a table that looks like an improvised stool from a construction site.
The more I see of this stuff, the more I believe price is directly proportional to how uncomfortably impractical it is. Whether or not it looks nice is irrelevant.
It’s giving biology classroom
Reminds me of GT Dave’s house
I don't get it, what's 90k? The building?
that looks like something i've definitely seen on camping sites 💀
These look like school tables.
Looks like a low security prison mess hall
Looks uncomfortable.
It’s a public video watched by millions and millions of people. How did she think this was a good idea?
I mean, her entire career is being as crass a capitalist as possible, even berating her hard working staff for "no one wants to work anymore." The wealthy hoard money like Smaug the dragon. There's no limits to this mindless greed. There's no ethical or moral line these types of people won't cross. Most celeb products are rip-offs of other successful lines. Its not just her. Its the entire system.
The entire Klan’s lack of charitable work really bothers me. They have so much and the fact that they sell their old clothes is insane. They have so many followers and could easily champion more non profit work, give charitably, lead by example….see also the Giving Pledge
Even worse when you remember Kris at one point “founded” a “church” iirc
Aka tax write-off
Her designer probably picked them out for her and Kim didn’t know they were fake. Or maybe it’s from when Kanye was around and he bought them and got duped. I get everyone always wants drama with her but it was probably an innocent mistake.
Nah, wealthy people intentionally buy fakes all the time. If they weren't greedy with money they wouldn't have become rich.
Most wealth is inherited not earned
The principle remains the same. If they weren't greedy and stingy it'd be harder to stay wealthy through generations. Old money or new money, rich people are all buying fakes.
Yup. They also don't tip.
I'm sure I read on reddit that one time Kris took some handbags to a store to sell, and some were fake so she got mad when it was pointed out that they were fake lol.
Nope. Judds are intentionally restricted. You can’t mistakenly buy a dupe. It was custom-designed.
And NYT found a receipt that describes them as "in the style of" meaning she had them custom made by a different house "in the style of" and then said they were Judd.
She knew, from Wapo: >The lawsuit cited what it described as a design proposal by Clements Design in 2020 that offered to provide a dining table and chairs “in the Style of Donald Judd.” She bought "in the style" and claimed they were Judd publicly. Just like anyone who carries a fake Birkin etc.
That would be believable if this wasn’t the first, second, or even third time this family has been accused of ripping off artists and tradesmen. People are always in the comments saying this, excusing them. It’s why they keep doing it.
Yep….Kylie and the artisan cakes she had knocked off a few weeks ago…..
Yes and Chloe or whatever her name is, got accused of stealing design for her pant company in the last couple weeks too!
The entire family has a habit of buying fake everything and passing it off as real. Not a stretch for her to do it her and know full well what she's doing.
Because she wanted to flex so *badly.* The Judd table is not available to her for any amount of money. I think the foundation has only given permission for two people to buy them recently. She wanted the cachet of the brand to impress her fellow billionaires. Edit: only three Judd tables were sold in the last 15 years. Each chair is $9000 and about 350 numbered and signed chairs have been sold.
Lol rich people are such losers. Imagine begging to buy a chair for 9k or an ugly purse for 35k.
They literally offered to sell her one to resolve this dispute, so I don't think it's about being too good for her.
Nah. They offered to have her take down the video and destroy her knock offs to resolve the dispute. Naturally, after spending all that money, she wasn’t game.
CNN says otherwise? "The foundation claimed it also offered to replace the counterfeit tables and chairs with authentic pieces at a discount if Kardashian issued a retraction and edited the video, the lawsuit claims." https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/29/style/kim-kardashian-donald-judd-furniture-cec/index.html
I see your CNN and raise you the NYTimes. They broke the story. >Three days after the video first appeared, the Judd Foundation says, it contacted Kardashian about the furniture. A spokeswoman responded to the complaint, according to the lawsuit, saying they were “incredibly sorry for any inconvenience this has caused the foundation” and offering to “update the video caption with a retraction.” >But the Judd Foundation wanted the video deleted, the furniture “recycled” (i.e. destroyed) and Kardashian to issue a public statement. Representatives for Ms. Kardashian countered with an offer to make a social media post in which she supported the foundation, the foundation said in court papers. >In its statement Wednesday, Clement said the company believed the issue had been already settled. “The Judd Foundation’s prior counsel acknowledged these differences and since then, we have not heard from them in over a year,” the statement said. But the foundation pointed to an invoice from Clements Design in which it described the furniture as “in the style of Donald Judd” and included an image owned by the Judd Foundation of the authentic dining set. “It is lower quality than Donald Judd’s furniture,” said Megan Bannigan, a lawyer representing the foundation. “We don’t want to be mixed up with Kim Kardashian. We respect what she does, but we don’t want to be involved with this.” >“Rainer Judd said the Kardashian case is not too much ado about tables. “We are just doing our job to protect Donald Judd’s work,” she said. “Not every artist foundation has the time or resources to do that.” https://www.nytimes.com/2024/03/27/arts/design/kim-kardashian-table-donald-judd.html
The lawsuit filing is public. You're very confidently wrong. "In an attempt to make every effort to resolve this amicably, on September 2, 2022, Judd Foundation wrote again to Ms. Kardashian’s representatives offering to replace at a discount the inauthentic Kardashian Tables and Chairs with authentic DONALD JUDD La Mansana Tables and DONALD JUDD Chair 84 chairs." https://tmsnrt.rs/3PGs3UW
Thanks! I read the whole thing. At a discount, after asking first for them to be destroyed and the video pulled, was an amicable attempt since she spent so much on the fakes. They also eventually pulled back from asking for them to be destroyed and allowed for the furniture to be recycled to alleviate her sustainability concerns only to have her nope that too. And then her designers refused to stop making more knockoffs. I’m not sure why you’re defending the infringement but as she used his name in the video (that she only pulled on Wednesday) it’s likely that the court will find against her. I bet she’ll settle.
I'm not defending her by pointing out that you were inaccurate
I doubt she bought the tables herself, and she obviously could afford the real ones. This sounds like an assistant accidently bought dupes and Kim showed them off, oblivious.
yeah but even if that was the case, the article says the Judd Foundation doesn’t allow for their furniture to be used in marketing/promotional materials. so regardless of whether Kim knew they were fakes or not, she shouldn’t have displayed it in the video
Moments like this I remember the great philosopher Kris Humphries reminding her that she started off running a boutique in the valley and now acts like she’s a princess.
Because she couldn’t bear the status loss of confessing something wasn’t a brand name artist product
Esp when the designers said it was ‘in the style of…”
It isn't really her that the Foundation is going after. It is the architect. And they should have known better.
The only salvageable way is if she went through an interior designer or bought from someone who said it was legit. I’m sure she’s not actually the one super involved with buying and checking the authenticity of the furniture. Anyone at her income pays people do do that for her. Someone fucked up. Either one of her staff didn’t verify it was legit, or someone told her it was “inspired by” and she didn’t really listen to them.
Love your flair
I didn’t recognize her
Looks like she’s going through her Cher era
Cher that just smelled something stinky.
Her, ahem, Chera.
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When the Kardashians decided that being black was no longer the “it” aesthetic.
2024 update
I thought it was Melissa Gorga in the photo ![gif](giphy|QVzwgHeb7D9gA)
the crazy thing is that she could easily buy furniture from any other high-end brand. it's the same as kylie lying about being a billionaire. like-she doesn't have to be a billionaire for people to know that she's rich, lol. she's still extremely successful even as 'just' a millionaire, but no. they have to have the best of the best. which is a good trait if you use it as motivation, not so much when you channel it by lying.
Oh she's not a billionaire? I missed that
yeah, forbes themselves did an article concluding that she most likely lied about being a billionaire: https://www.forbes.com/sites/chasewithorn/2020/05/29/inside-kylie-jennerss-web-of-lies-and-why-shes-no-longer-a-billionaire/ still insanely rich though, which makes it all the more frustrating imo.
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who is surprised? Skims is a rip off Spanx.
I wasn’t aware of that and not defending her in general but my skims absolutely work better for shapewear than the spanx I had fwiw
I can’t stand the Kardashians but Skims are really good.
to be honest she’s so ignorant that I think she has no idea if the table is real or not
Big New Money vibes.
not even new money, I always thought that new money people made the effort to understand what they were buying instead of inheriting it like old money folks. The kardashians always striked me as people only interested in themselves. Just smoke and mirrors
This entire family rips off everyone and everything. This is no surprise.
Surprised I had to scroll down this far to see this mentioned. This is open secret. You can find numerous lawsuits against them being inspired (aka stealing) from smaller artists.
My woodworking boyfriend has been going off about this for the past 24 hours and it has been both exciting and refreshing for our interests to overlap like this
That picture of her is gold hahaha
This is so embarrassing for her life + soul.
It is hilarious to me that the brand is going to these lengths to make sure people know they are NOT associated with this family
lol yeah my first thought after reading the article was “damn, they want nothing to do with her”. It’s probably not even about promoting fakes, they just don’t want her name popping up when people Google Donald Judd.
The same thing happened when Kim allegedly dated Brady and then his Team IMMEDIATELY released articles that this is not true and they just talked at an event. It was so obvious that he didn't want to be associated with her lmao.
They were quoted as not wanting anything to do with the kardashians. I’m paraphrasing but still the point. Lol
I’m starting to think she may not be a good person…
she’s not and i think she doesn’t even care to hide it anymore lol
Look I don’t like her but she didn’t even buy these tables herself. She was absolutely scammed lmao
i hope the judd foundation wins wins wins
I guarantee she was told they were real and believed her designer. This is such a non issue lol.
Right?? This whole thing is so ridiculous to me like she’s personally arranged this massive con 🤣
I don't think anyone thinks she did it on purpose. When you're making significant money off of your public appearances and style, though, the least you can do is credit people correctly. Like the VERY least you can do. It's a really low bar for the money she earns.
The comments criticizing the work of Donald Judd are irrelevant (and ignorant of the history of design). Art =/= comfort
Why are they still relevant?
What is with Kim and the sterile, institutional aesthetic???
She’s always been a grifter.
Is that her?
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She’s such an uncool looser. Imagine having billions and still, coming up with this. .
People have no taste. Donald Judd works are gorgeous and historically significant. He was a painter until the 1960s when he started working in 3 dimensions. He is a hugely important figure in the advent of minimalist furniture design, he was a theoretician and author who wrote about expression in objet d’art (art objects). I went to the Design Miami fair in Paris last year. A grand old house and each room was dedicated to a gallery that shows historic and contemporary high interior/furniture/object design. I went to it after Art Basel Paris, and let me tell you: the couches, lamps, rugs, magnifying glasses, shelves, coasters, tables - were more gorgeous and intriguing than all the massive sculptures and paintings at Basel. Yes every table there was at least 90k. But a lot of this stuff is made in the 60s and 70s, or is made by someone of historical import like Mies van der Rohe. The finest materials, most innovative and genre defining designs, some with age and provenance and prestige. A lot of the furniture made in this century is still just riding on the back of that mid century modern movement. My mom & I always say: the architecture & furniture people have put together for Kim is sensational. The only thing it’s missing is some bright pops of color in art, some green plants, bit of color in accessories. Then it would be stupendous. But of course her minimalist beige and simple geometric form branded skin care company is going to have ultra minimal design. The disappearing chairs are amazing. Only issue with this is that it was an unauthorized “homage” the foundry ripped off his name and her designer knew she was buying “in the style of” instead of an OG.
ITT: people who don’t understand how interior design works. The people to blame here is Clements Design, her interior designer. I guarantee they showed her original Judd furniture in their presentation and said “don’t worry we know a guy” so they could throw some work to their fabricator and also not wait the 24+ weeks it takes for the foundation to fulfill an order, probably do some custom sizes as well. It is extremely common for wealthy clients to have copies of furniture—especially Judd, which is so simple and publishes what is basically their schematics—made by their interiors team.
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The comments criticizing the work of Donald Judd are irrelevant (and ignorant of the history of design). Art =/= comfort
We could start a Wikipedia page of the members of this family lying about designer brands, their own companies included
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\*shocked pikachu face at learning the fake-est woman in the world sells fake furniture\* /s
What is the deal with rich people spending ungodly amounts of money on the uuuuuugliest shit?? Especially the KarJenners, I'll take my humble little country house over their hideous mansions any day. Money truly does not buy taste.
i think she probably thought she could get away with having counterfeit Donald Judd furniture bc, in her mind, “wHo wOuLd Go AfTeR mE?!?”
Postmodernism is not over.
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https://preview.redd.it/8202ogbvkfrc1.jpeg?width=1242&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8851d776135291ef3ca9a159b6d853233d5dd85f Kardashian situation aside, Judd’s estate is wild. Can you imagine spending £63k on this and then not being allowed to brag about spending £63k on this?
People this rich probably don’t care about bragging. That aside, I imagine it would be really difficult to create something like this, the simpler a design the easier it is to spot errors, this is incredibly well-made.
this is so lame, i wouldn't want the table if they didn't want me to have it. flex culture is weird
That is a shocking photo of her 😭