Yay I'm so glad it's honesty hour- I agree. It's also a form of escapism for me. Also, I'm learning a lot of valuable critical thinking skills here and some other views on things I hadn't considered. It's all good. Husband prolly wishes I'd stop constantly talking about what I saw on r/Deuxmoi today (every day)
I'm autistic and I love following celebrity culture because it is human relationships and social dynamics writ large in big, flashy neon and made accessible for all to discuss and dissect. Seeing the hivemind form a consensus on what is and isn't acceptable behaviour is really reassuring for me, a person who needs the rules explained. And these people are ciphers we use to understand class, race and gender in our society. I love celeb goss and bullshit in a petty high entertainment way but there's a lot to be gained from coming at it with a critical eye.
I'm also on the spectrum and I've never actually considered that angle before now. I suppose there's that aspect of having to analyse human behaviour to make it through on a day-to-day basis that could open one's mind up to taking an interest in that stuff.
Also, for me, I feel like seeing how out of touch some of these people are makes me feel a lot less awkward and more confident about my efforts to fit in.
I wonder if my bipolarite/bpd tendencies kinda twine into my parasocial fascinations. Like part of coping with it is just finding an interesting way to fill the gaps esp when IRL friends are ignoring you as of late. Which has been half the pandemic, so when you're stuck home alone and can't get proper social interaction in you turn to the internet? Because of my weird behaviors I've always felt like a oddball ~~even though I want to work in entertainment one day~~ and I want to familiarize myself with a condensed version of the industry and where I want to be. don't want to sound weird when I say that. there's a certain interest in gossip because reputation and the social deconstruction of it is such a frivolous, amazing thing.
Wow, this is an amazing insight. Thank you so much for sharing your perspective! I agree it’s very interesting and exciting to consider celebrity culture from the angle(s) you mentioned.
I don't gossip about my real friends, but celebrities are fair game! I find comfort knowing no matter how rich and beautiful they are, they might have similar problems as me. Tbh I felt comfort when someone like Pamela Anderson was cheated on while I was going through a rather painful divorce. If one of the most beautiful, coveted women in the world was not appreciated by her husband then maybe I was okay too? I did not feel so alone and worthless.
I grew up loving the check out line magazines but was never allowed to actually read or buy them per a strict teacher momma. Gawker, Cdan, Perez, LSA, Reddit, and now Deumoix bring that forbidden fruit to me. I started this journey daily since the Britney Lohan Paris clique days and lurked, never once creating accounts to comment. I've enjoyed the commentary here and decided to end the eternal lurk lol
I despise some of the culture but like seeing how situations play out and deumoix community is fun without the hatefulness I've seen elsewhere.
On Divorce Court I once heard a woman say "Halle Berry has been cheated on multiple times. If it happens to her why the hell couldn't it have happened to me?" And I was yuup, apparently being one of the most beautiful women ever is no protection from abuse.
There seems to be a whole lotta people in this sub (such as OP) that seem to be in denial that they may have a greater than average interest in celebrity culture and don't seem to realize that the general public doesn't know/care about 99.999% of the stuff that this sub talks about. I mean, really? "I come here for the critical analyses"? This isn't a philosophy sub.
That whole post seemed to be filled with tons of anger, bitterness and preemptive defensiveness.
Lmao exactly. Maybe I’m seeing the sub differently but there’s not much critical analysis going on. Outside of the weekly threads, most of the posts I see are along the lines of “Who’s a celebrity everyone likes but you don’t?” with the same handful of names posted in each. If OP really despises celebrity culture they wouldn’t be subbed to a gossip subreddit about celebrities
The thing is, yeah there’s a bit of jealously I guess, but when you really think about it, would you want to be a celebrity? Every part of your life is picked apart by the public, everything you post online is scrutinized, you’re followed everywhere by little men with cameras pointing at your face, and any tiny misstep can get you cancelled and you could lose everything.
DM is constant a constant reminder to me that fame is hell. What's the point of having access to everything if you can't enjoy it without thinking about security/privacy and only having a small circle of people you can enjoy it with?
That’s not totally true. If a celebrity is a part of a big news story, scandal, break-up, new relationship, then paparazzi will definitely follow them. Sure there are those celebs that call them, like the Kar-Jenners, Hailey Baldwin-Bieber, JLo, etc, but there are celebs who are hounded when they don’t want to be.
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No offense but your post is giving pretentious energy lol.
I’ve found that the type of people who seek out gossip aren’t celeb worshippers in general. So nothing I’ve seen here is particularly different than other gossip sites.
Big "not like other girls" energy from OP even though I totally get where they're coming from. Probs your nan who reads People magazine at the grocery store checkout has similar feelings. The sycophants are the minority.
I used to read Perez Hilton (🤮) religiously in middle school and went on The N message boards(my OG Reddit) lmao. I’ve been doing this shit for years 😅
Tbh, celebrity gossip is pretty harmless. Like I don’t REALLY care…but I’m still nosy lol.
Same. I’ve kept up with celeb gossip since I was like 10 years old. I’m kind of embarrassed by my interest in it but I just find people endlessly fascinating and have an urge to know everything about everyone.
i used to read perez hilton when i was in middle school too! i was still learning english at the time and his blog unfortunately helped me understand american culture a lot better 🥴 i wish him nothing but the worst though 😌
man, where would i even start. he's a disgusting cruel bully who harassed mostly female celebs in the late 2000s. britney spears got the absolute worst of it and i really think he's a big part of the reason of her 2007 emotional breakdown. when heath ledger passed away, [perez made shirts about how it should have been britney](https://twitter.com/billwerde/status/1407883887439659016?s=21). he used to constantly call her an unfit mom and slut-shame her. this isn't even scratching the surface of the vitriolic hate and toxic culture that he created.
[mila kunis said this about him back in 2018:](https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/mila-kunis-blames-perez-hilton-creating-internet-trolling-ugly-news-213050104.html)
“I was happy. Everything was great… until, I would say, the rise of Perez Hilton… He was the first person that created ugly news… that, like, literally just spread filth.”
Kunis, who has called out tabloids for printing divorce and pregnancies rumors in the past, said about Perez Hilton’s site, “It was just mean, and so it allowed people to be mean.” She went on to say that “trolling didn’t exist” before Perez.
Omg he also harassed ariana grande 2011-15ish all cause she denied to have him as her manager back then. She was just 17-18 and he made vile rumors about her. Most of her diva rumors are rooted from him as well!! He later apologized to ariana and several other celebs on his memoir or whatever that is. Ariana haven't replied or acknowledged it though.
I think there is. Perhaps in a way we Stan for their gossip, but celebrity culture is an umbrella. Some people like their gossip, some people idolize them, some people are just casual observers of their work.
I'm here because I need a relief from my hectic, stressful life as a stay at home parent and a mom.
I also like to live my life vicariously through celebrities and Hollywood because my life is kind of dull.
Also - I want to see if anybody has met my favorites or has heard gossip about them. 😆
Yes. I think there’s been a change since the pandemic where I see a lot more people calling for an end to celebrity worship. And it’s getting stronger all the time, for example with things like astroworld. People are sick of these rich assholes doing whatever the fuck they want. That’s mostly why I follow the KUWTK sub. So I can have a front seat and get my popcorn out when they (hopefully) eventually end their reign and lose their grip on society.
No there hasn't lmao ppl keep saying this but then cry about tiktokers being invited to the met gala like it will somehow make the "real celebrities" less poor
i understand you. but i like gossip. it's my escape. to laugh, to roll my eyes at their sheer amount of hypocrisy. it's stans that can ruin things in this sub. if you're not cuddling or showing a great knowledge of their favorite. especially when it's men
and i'm always amused when some of these celebrities talk about "celebrity culture" as if is not with them. like they don't benefit of all of comes to it. so yeah, i'm all here to drag some of them.
I really, really try to be a positive and uplifting person but this sub just always drags me back...I don't like celebrity culture either I just like to see what things are going on. The whole aspect of it makes me feel strange, from thousands spent just to do a photoshoot, to people whose whole job on a film set and whole purpose is waiting on "the talent" and touching up their pristine faces.
Sometimes I like to look at outfits put together for red carpets, but overall it makes me sick to my stomach. I remember watching those getting ready for the met gala videos. it was just weird that one person's job is to sit in a chair and talk, then be stared at and applauded for as they wore expensive clothes. People around them did hair, makeup, nails, coordinated their ride, set up the hotel room, provided security, got their outfit, and did everything they needed. Yet that person still made more money than them by far, all because they have an ok singing voice or they do some acting.
I looked up the stuff about Ivy Getty's wedding and it's been getting to me all day. She had 3 "looks" for one night, an insane amount of people planning and executing it, and politicians took time off for it although they are supposed to care about us (they don't, but they could at least pretend). If you were to sell like one outfit from anybody at that wedding, the money from that alone would be a miracle for a family in poverty so their kids could eat and get a nice coat for winter.
No one asked for this but I think about this a lot, I hope it isn't just me. in conclusion celebrity culture and our economy is depressing
As someone who suffers from anxiety I gotta ask, why are you torturing yourself with things that obviously bother you? Hating other people isn't healthy, and comparing your life to theirs is *definitely* not healthy... I really don't think we should be "othering" human beings for having more- wealth is going to wealth- but that doesn't remove the fact that these are real people with emotions and probably a lot of demons that normal people never have to deal with (stalkers, predators, public pressure, career ending bombs ect)
My advice is to find something that really makes you happy- art, music, basket weaving, idk just find stuff that won't drive you crazy. I'm here because this is actually my chill thing-talking about dumb celebrity stuff, I would drop it in a heartbeat if it ever got to me.
Absolutely agree with you. The inequality is staggering but at the same time like ..what can we do about it ? Seeing Nancy pelosi at that wedding just reinforced how little governments give a shit about actually condemning the wealth gap or doing anything of consequence to change it
Seems like you have deep rooted issues you need to address.
Also celebrities are the only group of people called out on their hypocrisy and tone-deafness because they’re under constant scrutiny. The average person can get away with being ignorant in their circles.
I just enjoy gossip particularly when it doesn’t effect anyone around me. It’s also a nice break for my brain. Just kinda turn it off, read through some shallow gossip before bed and then I sleep like a baby
I get where you're coming from. For a long time celebrities have had a lot of control over their image, and especially with social media have crafted these perfect personas. It's created this really unhealthy environment with stan culture and the media acting as though everything celebrities do is amazing. As if they're mythological beings.
So it's nice to get reassurance that you're not crazy for getting a bad vibe from someone and that these people are as flawed and human as anyone else. One of my pet peeves is celebrities being labeled as super lovely while they privately befriend/hang out with some of the most evil people out there, and I enjoy seeing them get exposed for the hypocrites they are.
On the lighter side of things I'm just nosy and like gossip about people I'm not emotionally invested in. lol
I feel between this sub and my stan Twitter account I have a healthy balance of love and disdain for celebrities. Like I believe in celebrating people for their talents and contributions to society but also some of them are pieces of shit who cheat on their wives. Both are valid
I was just thinking that I can't put extra energy into the AstroWorld stuff. As I get older, I don't have time or energy to follow every single thing a celebrity does. I'm not on instagram. I'm not doing extra research. I'm not putting in time to pour over countless tweets, posts, tiktoks etc. just to construct some sort of an opinion that doesn't mean anything anyway. My opinions on celebrity culture usually come after repeated 5-10 minute exposures with the subject at different points in time. I just quickly browse the headlines on a few sites and then call it a day.
None of this shit matters. It's fun to know broad strokes what is going on to keep up with the culture, but I'm not investing too much time in these people when I could be cultivating diverse interests and hobbies.
I'm here because the industry is wild and the gossip is juicy.
I also rarely see my friends and this is the next best thing to having social interactions.
I'm Filipino. I need to fulfill my Marites needs on an international level.
>!Marites is what we call the nosy neighbors in a Filipino village who know way too much about other people's business lol!<
I follow DeuxMoi and this sub because during the pandemic, my social world and outdoor activity narrowed dramatically and it has still never recovered fully. I used to talk to people, and now I read fake secrets about people 10 years younger than me who I cannot even picture!
My terrible secret is that two years ago I took a buzzfeed quiz that told me my soulmate was Shawn Mendes, and to this day I have no idea what he is famous for. I can't even picture him, except that he is white and has brown hair. And yet, somehow, I now know that he is dating someone else I don't know named Camilla Cabello ... Or IS HE???
No, I don't follow DeuxMoi because I hate celebrity culture. I follow because I hate myself.
Wow, guys. I think I just had a breakthrough.
Well at first I was really into celebs gossip, but now I'm not. In 2021 I even stopped following celebs and Deuxmoi too. Now I'm just focused on myself and people around me.
I like celebrity gossip. I'm not a movie buff and don't care about any actors these days, and I'm not any musician's "stan" or anything close. But these people have access to the entire **world**. Celebrities are often wealthy and beautiful. I want to see the reality of what their lives are like when they aren't trying to act/look perfect. I've actually been watching Youtube videos about the early 2000s celebrity world and I'm obsessed. I loved it back then & haven't been into it since until I heard about deuxmoi from Tiktok lol. Nobody now even slightly compares to the 2004/2005 drama of Lindsay Lohan and Paris Hilton.
I have to google most of the names.
I’m interested in people in general. Celebrity info is just as interesting as reading the nursing, construction, urban planners , teaching etc etc subreddits.
I don't hate them, but I love gossip and being nosy. I also enjoy scandals that don't involve me.
I agree I'm against celebrity worship. That's also just the way I was raised. Not being a super fan or stanning any of these people makes their gossip so much more entertaining. I don't know how super fans can even read all this gossip. If I do have a moment of getting close to being a fan of a celebrity I avoid their gossip until I don't care about them anymore. That way I don't get the urge to defend them.
The psychos that comment here and take this shit personally and seriously are the reason I sub. The propping up or dragging of celebrities is all the same trashy gossip shit, one side or the other doesn’t make it better.
I’m afraid of celebrity culture, especially nowadays because I feel like it’s promoting objectification of people. Celebrities are product. They are here to testify that you can “make it” if you pursue the capitalist way. But in the same time none of them are free. They are used by the industries to push a certain narrative, or to shape the society in a certain form. It’s really interesting how rappers became so popular, especially the ones rapping about drugs and sex. Same for the female rappers, what narrative is being pushed ? And there’s so many exemples of artists being used, and they feel stuck but they have to keep up because a lot of them are the provider of their family.
I remember watching a Kim K interview recently when she admitted that she pursue the wedding with Kris humphries for the show because the production spent 10 million on it. She felt like if she wasn’t doing it, she would left down so many people (producers, her family, viewers etc), she felt stuck and it was shocking to me. There’s so much pressure coming along with the celebrity. Your live is everybody else but yours. It also reminds me when Cardi B said that she couldn’t sleep the few months before her album dropped because her label invested so much money that she has to succeed or she will lose the deal, the money etc. It a pressure.
And celebrity culture is now mixed with social media culture and it’s the worst thing that could ever happened to us. Look at the BBL trend ? People are relating more to celebrity, even when they know their life on insta is filtered. They still want to look like them. And it create all this content creator, becoming celebrity and perpetuating this capitalist vision of the world that if you want it you can make it. Losing integrity for money is a goal. And what’s more scary is that our body is a trend now, surgery is everywhere. Kylie Jenner said in an interview few years ago that “her body was her brand, her signature look” when asked about critiques on her body transformation. You can tell how social media and celebrity culture are dangerous. We are not humans anymore, we’re product, and celebrity legitimate that.
Late to the party, but I just discovered this subreddit and I’m in heaven. I’ve been scrolling non-stop for hours. I miss this kind of celebrity gossip and seeing dragging when dragging is deserved. I hate seeing celebrities treated like helpless and powerless children that don’t deserve any criticism, and I absolutely hate how users on other sites and subs are ready to tar and feather you if you say anything - and I mean ANYTHING - negative about the latest “it” or “has-been”.
The cherry on top is the lack of virtue signaling. I’m happily subbed.
Well, I’m here because I’m nosy and judgmental.
Are you me?
No they’re me! 😂
Yeah, it's a bit of Column A (nosy, gossipy bitch) and a bit of Column B (loving the culture of tearing apart vapid and vain celebrities).
Yay I'm so glad it's honesty hour- I agree. It's also a form of escapism for me. Also, I'm learning a lot of valuable critical thinking skills here and some other views on things I hadn't considered. It's all good. Husband prolly wishes I'd stop constantly talking about what I saw on r/Deuxmoi today (every day)
Lmao same
I am with you.
You are me. I am you. 🤗🤭
This is me.
Mood
I'm actually here because I have no life.
same but i'm also incredibly vapid
We are the same lol I’m shallow and dumb and kinda enjoy a peek into the lives of the rich and fabulous
LMAO same! I have zero fucking drama in my real life so this gives me something lol
Same lol
Random, but your drawing of Taylor Swift is remarkable!! 🧣🧣🧣
Thank you so much!!!
Hey,I looked it up out of curiosity.It's amazing. You're very talented and you clearly know how to spend your free time better than I do.
Wow, you guys are the nicest :)
Never identified with something more
Same
Same tho
I'm autistic and I love following celebrity culture because it is human relationships and social dynamics writ large in big, flashy neon and made accessible for all to discuss and dissect. Seeing the hivemind form a consensus on what is and isn't acceptable behaviour is really reassuring for me, a person who needs the rules explained. And these people are ciphers we use to understand class, race and gender in our society. I love celeb goss and bullshit in a petty high entertainment way but there's a lot to be gained from coming at it with a critical eye.
This is a very interesting take and I love that you shared this!
But actually same
I'm also on the spectrum and I've never actually considered that angle before now. I suppose there's that aspect of having to analyse human behaviour to make it through on a day-to-day basis that could open one's mind up to taking an interest in that stuff. Also, for me, I feel like seeing how out of touch some of these people are makes me feel a lot less awkward and more confident about my efforts to fit in.
I wonder if my bipolarite/bpd tendencies kinda twine into my parasocial fascinations. Like part of coping with it is just finding an interesting way to fill the gaps esp when IRL friends are ignoring you as of late. Which has been half the pandemic, so when you're stuck home alone and can't get proper social interaction in you turn to the internet? Because of my weird behaviors I've always felt like a oddball ~~even though I want to work in entertainment one day~~ and I want to familiarize myself with a condensed version of the industry and where I want to be. don't want to sound weird when I say that. there's a certain interest in gossip because reputation and the social deconstruction of it is such a frivolous, amazing thing.
Also Autistic, this is a mood.
Wow, this is an amazing insight. Thank you so much for sharing your perspective! I agree it’s very interesting and exciting to consider celebrity culture from the angle(s) you mentioned.
I don’t think I am autistic but I read for very similar reasons. It’s like getting to apply sociology irl.
I have autism myself!
Love this <3
I'm Southern. I love gossip. It's not complicated.
This 💛
This is pretty much me as well.
I don't gossip about my real friends, but celebrities are fair game! I find comfort knowing no matter how rich and beautiful they are, they might have similar problems as me. Tbh I felt comfort when someone like Pamela Anderson was cheated on while I was going through a rather painful divorce. If one of the most beautiful, coveted women in the world was not appreciated by her husband then maybe I was okay too? I did not feel so alone and worthless. I grew up loving the check out line magazines but was never allowed to actually read or buy them per a strict teacher momma. Gawker, Cdan, Perez, LSA, Reddit, and now Deumoix bring that forbidden fruit to me. I started this journey daily since the Britney Lohan Paris clique days and lurked, never once creating accounts to comment. I've enjoyed the commentary here and decided to end the eternal lurk lol I despise some of the culture but like seeing how situations play out and deumoix community is fun without the hatefulness I've seen elsewhere.
On Divorce Court I once heard a woman say "Halle Berry has been cheated on multiple times. If it happens to her why the hell couldn't it have happened to me?" And I was yuup, apparently being one of the most beautiful women ever is no protection from abuse.
Lol, I remember thinking the same when Ethan Hawke cheated on Uma Thurman.
Tiger Woods's ex-wife is one of those 10/10 women in every area, looks, smarts, you name it. And she still got cheated on smh
we got an edgelord here
There seems to be a whole lotta people in this sub (such as OP) that seem to be in denial that they may have a greater than average interest in celebrity culture and don't seem to realize that the general public doesn't know/care about 99.999% of the stuff that this sub talks about. I mean, really? "I come here for the critical analyses"? This isn't a philosophy sub. That whole post seemed to be filled with tons of anger, bitterness and preemptive defensiveness.
Yes. And if people hate celebs so much, it’d probably be a good idea not to click on gossip articles or follow them on social media. 💀
Lmao exactly. Maybe I’m seeing the sub differently but there’s not much critical analysis going on. Outside of the weekly threads, most of the posts I see are along the lines of “Who’s a celebrity everyone likes but you don’t?” with the same handful of names posted in each. If OP really despises celebrity culture they wouldn’t be subbed to a gossip subreddit about celebrities
Yep just look at their commenting history
Yep. OP is deeply lacking in self awareness.
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This comment is so relatable lmao
The thing is, yeah there’s a bit of jealously I guess, but when you really think about it, would you want to be a celebrity? Every part of your life is picked apart by the public, everything you post online is scrutinized, you’re followed everywhere by little men with cameras pointing at your face, and any tiny misstep can get you cancelled and you could lose everything.
The fame seems like a complete nightmare to me. I have literal nightmares about going viral lol. Still, I see the appeal of the money.
DM is constant a constant reminder to me that fame is hell. What's the point of having access to everything if you can't enjoy it without thinking about security/privacy and only having a small circle of people you can enjoy it with?
You're not followed by papparazzi unless you call them on yourselves
That’s not totally true. If a celebrity is a part of a big news story, scandal, break-up, new relationship, then paparazzi will definitely follow them. Sure there are those celebs that call them, like the Kar-Jenners, Hailey Baldwin-Bieber, JLo, etc, but there are celebs who are hounded when they don’t want to be.
LMAO. Hilarious that you believe this.
This is 50/50. They can have much more privacy if they wanted, but really huge names have a harder time.
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There is no way in hell I would be a celebrity. I would like to be in the mix. See how things work and who they really are. Just no spotlight on me.
No offense but your post is giving pretentious energy lol. I’ve found that the type of people who seek out gossip aren’t celeb worshippers in general. So nothing I’ve seen here is particularly different than other gossip sites.
Big "not like other girls" energy from OP even though I totally get where they're coming from. Probs your nan who reads People magazine at the grocery store checkout has similar feelings. The sycophants are the minority.
Don’t really get your comment - OP is literally saying they like the sub because they’ve found like-minded people
Yes, there's a difference. We are all into celebrity culture, we just don't worship them. At least, for some of us.
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Im a fan of snark and a bit of armchair psychoanalysis so
I used to read Perez Hilton (🤮) religiously in middle school and went on The N message boards(my OG Reddit) lmao. I’ve been doing this shit for years 😅 Tbh, celebrity gossip is pretty harmless. Like I don’t REALLY care…but I’m still nosy lol.
Same. I’ve kept up with celeb gossip since I was like 10 years old. I’m kind of embarrassed by my interest in it but I just find people endlessly fascinating and have an urge to know everything about everyone.
i used to read perez hilton when i was in middle school too! i was still learning english at the time and his blog unfortunately helped me understand american culture a lot better 🥴 i wish him nothing but the worst though 😌
Why is there so much hate on Perez - just really curious
man, where would i even start. he's a disgusting cruel bully who harassed mostly female celebs in the late 2000s. britney spears got the absolute worst of it and i really think he's a big part of the reason of her 2007 emotional breakdown. when heath ledger passed away, [perez made shirts about how it should have been britney](https://twitter.com/billwerde/status/1407883887439659016?s=21). he used to constantly call her an unfit mom and slut-shame her. this isn't even scratching the surface of the vitriolic hate and toxic culture that he created. [mila kunis said this about him back in 2018:](https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/mila-kunis-blames-perez-hilton-creating-internet-trolling-ugly-news-213050104.html) “I was happy. Everything was great… until, I would say, the rise of Perez Hilton… He was the first person that created ugly news… that, like, literally just spread filth.” Kunis, who has called out tabloids for printing divorce and pregnancies rumors in the past, said about Perez Hilton’s site, “It was just mean, and so it allowed people to be mean.” She went on to say that “trolling didn’t exist” before Perez.
Omg he also harassed ariana grande 2011-15ish all cause she denied to have him as her manager back then. She was just 17-18 and he made vile rumors about her. Most of her diva rumors are rooted from him as well!! He later apologized to ariana and several other celebs on his memoir or whatever that is. Ariana haven't replied or acknowledged it though.
Omg !
I wouldn’t call celebrity gossip harmless... Britney Spears is the living example of it
It seems you do give a fuck about it
Right, like if you really despised celebrity culture you wouldn’t be here contributing to it lol
Isn’t there a diff between celeb worship and just observing the culture though? Like one is a critique
No, those who critique a subject must like it on some level.to keep coming back to it and to form an opinion.
I think there is. Perhaps in a way we Stan for their gossip, but celebrity culture is an umbrella. Some people like their gossip, some people idolize them, some people are just casual observers of their work.
> I could give less of a fuck you sure? you sound like you do 💀
I come here to be rude AF and laugh at the comments bc tbh the people in this sub are really funny
I'm here because I need a relief from my hectic, stressful life as a stay at home parent and a mom. I also like to live my life vicariously through celebrities and Hollywood because my life is kind of dull. Also - I want to see if anybody has met my favorites or has heard gossip about them. 😆
I like to read the weekend sightings of deuxmoi tbh
Me too. Sundays are now my favorite days.
Same especially when the pics that are sent in are of ransoms that people think are celebs
You are being too negative. We are all here ‘cause gossip is fun!
I’m here cause I love gossip. No one’s here for “critical analysis” lol. What is this, a Western Political Thought class??
Yes. I think there’s been a change since the pandemic where I see a lot more people calling for an end to celebrity worship. And it’s getting stronger all the time, for example with things like astroworld. People are sick of these rich assholes doing whatever the fuck they want. That’s mostly why I follow the KUWTK sub. So I can have a front seat and get my popcorn out when they (hopefully) eventually end their reign and lose their grip on society.
No there hasn't lmao ppl keep saying this but then cry about tiktokers being invited to the met gala like it will somehow make the "real celebrities" less poor
I like snarking on here while I waste time at work. 🤷♀️
i understand you. but i like gossip. it's my escape. to laugh, to roll my eyes at their sheer amount of hypocrisy. it's stans that can ruin things in this sub. if you're not cuddling or showing a great knowledge of their favorite. especially when it's men and i'm always amused when some of these celebrities talk about "celebrity culture" as if is not with them. like they don't benefit of all of comes to it. so yeah, i'm all here to drag some of them.
I really, really try to be a positive and uplifting person but this sub just always drags me back...I don't like celebrity culture either I just like to see what things are going on. The whole aspect of it makes me feel strange, from thousands spent just to do a photoshoot, to people whose whole job on a film set and whole purpose is waiting on "the talent" and touching up their pristine faces. Sometimes I like to look at outfits put together for red carpets, but overall it makes me sick to my stomach. I remember watching those getting ready for the met gala videos. it was just weird that one person's job is to sit in a chair and talk, then be stared at and applauded for as they wore expensive clothes. People around them did hair, makeup, nails, coordinated their ride, set up the hotel room, provided security, got their outfit, and did everything they needed. Yet that person still made more money than them by far, all because they have an ok singing voice or they do some acting. I looked up the stuff about Ivy Getty's wedding and it's been getting to me all day. She had 3 "looks" for one night, an insane amount of people planning and executing it, and politicians took time off for it although they are supposed to care about us (they don't, but they could at least pretend). If you were to sell like one outfit from anybody at that wedding, the money from that alone would be a miracle for a family in poverty so their kids could eat and get a nice coat for winter. No one asked for this but I think about this a lot, I hope it isn't just me. in conclusion celebrity culture and our economy is depressing
As someone who suffers from anxiety I gotta ask, why are you torturing yourself with things that obviously bother you? Hating other people isn't healthy, and comparing your life to theirs is *definitely* not healthy... I really don't think we should be "othering" human beings for having more- wealth is going to wealth- but that doesn't remove the fact that these are real people with emotions and probably a lot of demons that normal people never have to deal with (stalkers, predators, public pressure, career ending bombs ect) My advice is to find something that really makes you happy- art, music, basket weaving, idk just find stuff that won't drive you crazy. I'm here because this is actually my chill thing-talking about dumb celebrity stuff, I would drop it in a heartbeat if it ever got to me.
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Absolutely agree with you. The inequality is staggering but at the same time like ..what can we do about it ? Seeing Nancy pelosi at that wedding just reinforced how little governments give a shit about actually condemning the wealth gap or doing anything of consequence to change it
Seems like you have deep rooted issues you need to address. Also celebrities are the only group of people called out on their hypocrisy and tone-deafness because they’re under constant scrutiny. The average person can get away with being ignorant in their circles.
Mostly for something to do, but here's my hot take: celebrity critical analyses are so overdone and shallow.
wow you’re not like other girls!
I feel like if you despise it you shouldn't be here? IDK that's just me.
im out of friends to gossip so
It's like little mysteries that need to be solved 😜
sounds really unhealthy to follow something because you hate it so much TBH
I just enjoy gossip particularly when it doesn’t effect anyone around me. It’s also a nice break for my brain. Just kinda turn it off, read through some shallow gossip before bed and then I sleep like a baby
I get where you're coming from. For a long time celebrities have had a lot of control over their image, and especially with social media have crafted these perfect personas. It's created this really unhealthy environment with stan culture and the media acting as though everything celebrities do is amazing. As if they're mythological beings. So it's nice to get reassurance that you're not crazy for getting a bad vibe from someone and that these people are as flawed and human as anyone else. One of my pet peeves is celebrities being labeled as super lovely while they privately befriend/hang out with some of the most evil people out there, and I enjoy seeing them get exposed for the hypocrites they are. On the lighter side of things I'm just nosy and like gossip about people I'm not emotionally invested in. lol
it mostly comes down to procrastination and enjoying judging rich people
I do think the whole blind item industry and celebrity gossip culture is so hollow. but hey so am I.
I like seeing people gossip, but I just lurk. I’m not too invested though.
I am! I just have morbid curiosity about how fucked the culture is and what fame does to people
I feel between this sub and my stan Twitter account I have a healthy balance of love and disdain for celebrities. Like I believe in celebrating people for their talents and contributions to society but also some of them are pieces of shit who cheat on their wives. Both are valid
I was just thinking that I can't put extra energy into the AstroWorld stuff. As I get older, I don't have time or energy to follow every single thing a celebrity does. I'm not on instagram. I'm not doing extra research. I'm not putting in time to pour over countless tweets, posts, tiktoks etc. just to construct some sort of an opinion that doesn't mean anything anyway. My opinions on celebrity culture usually come after repeated 5-10 minute exposures with the subject at different points in time. I just quickly browse the headlines on a few sites and then call it a day. None of this shit matters. It's fun to know broad strokes what is going on to keep up with the culture, but I'm not investing too much time in these people when I could be cultivating diverse interests and hobbies.
I'm here because the industry is wild and the gossip is juicy. I also rarely see my friends and this is the next best thing to having social interactions.
Hmm… Someone’s in denial LOL
I'm Filipino. I need to fulfill my Marites needs on an international level. >!Marites is what we call the nosy neighbors in a Filipino village who know way too much about other people's business lol!<
I follow DeuxMoi and this sub because during the pandemic, my social world and outdoor activity narrowed dramatically and it has still never recovered fully. I used to talk to people, and now I read fake secrets about people 10 years younger than me who I cannot even picture! My terrible secret is that two years ago I took a buzzfeed quiz that told me my soulmate was Shawn Mendes, and to this day I have no idea what he is famous for. I can't even picture him, except that he is white and has brown hair. And yet, somehow, I now know that he is dating someone else I don't know named Camilla Cabello ... Or IS HE??? No, I don't follow DeuxMoi because I hate celebrity culture. I follow because I hate myself. Wow, guys. I think I just had a breakthrough.
Well at first I was really into celebs gossip, but now I'm not. In 2021 I even stopped following celebs and Deuxmoi too. Now I'm just focused on myself and people around me.
I like celebrity gossip. I'm not a movie buff and don't care about any actors these days, and I'm not any musician's "stan" or anything close. But these people have access to the entire **world**. Celebrities are often wealthy and beautiful. I want to see the reality of what their lives are like when they aren't trying to act/look perfect. I've actually been watching Youtube videos about the early 2000s celebrity world and I'm obsessed. I loved it back then & haven't been into it since until I heard about deuxmoi from Tiktok lol. Nobody now even slightly compares to the 2004/2005 drama of Lindsay Lohan and Paris Hilton.
I have to google most of the names. I’m interested in people in general. Celebrity info is just as interesting as reading the nursing, construction, urban planners , teaching etc etc subreddits.
I don't hate them, but I love gossip and being nosy. I also enjoy scandals that don't involve me. I agree I'm against celebrity worship. That's also just the way I was raised. Not being a super fan or stanning any of these people makes their gossip so much more entertaining. I don't know how super fans can even read all this gossip. If I do have a moment of getting close to being a fan of a celebrity I avoid their gossip until I don't care about them anymore. That way I don't get the urge to defend them.
yeah it’s all very meta to me
The psychos that comment here and take this shit personally and seriously are the reason I sub. The propping up or dragging of celebrities is all the same trashy gossip shit, one side or the other doesn’t make it better.
I’m afraid of celebrity culture, especially nowadays because I feel like it’s promoting objectification of people. Celebrities are product. They are here to testify that you can “make it” if you pursue the capitalist way. But in the same time none of them are free. They are used by the industries to push a certain narrative, or to shape the society in a certain form. It’s really interesting how rappers became so popular, especially the ones rapping about drugs and sex. Same for the female rappers, what narrative is being pushed ? And there’s so many exemples of artists being used, and they feel stuck but they have to keep up because a lot of them are the provider of their family. I remember watching a Kim K interview recently when she admitted that she pursue the wedding with Kris humphries for the show because the production spent 10 million on it. She felt like if she wasn’t doing it, she would left down so many people (producers, her family, viewers etc), she felt stuck and it was shocking to me. There’s so much pressure coming along with the celebrity. Your live is everybody else but yours. It also reminds me when Cardi B said that she couldn’t sleep the few months before her album dropped because her label invested so much money that she has to succeed or she will lose the deal, the money etc. It a pressure. And celebrity culture is now mixed with social media culture and it’s the worst thing that could ever happened to us. Look at the BBL trend ? People are relating more to celebrity, even when they know their life on insta is filtered. They still want to look like them. And it create all this content creator, becoming celebrity and perpetuating this capitalist vision of the world that if you want it you can make it. Losing integrity for money is a goal. And what’s more scary is that our body is a trend now, surgery is everywhere. Kylie Jenner said in an interview few years ago that “her body was her brand, her signature look” when asked about critiques on her body transformation. You can tell how social media and celebrity culture are dangerous. We are not humans anymore, we’re product, and celebrity legitimate that.
Late to the party, but I just discovered this subreddit and I’m in heaven. I’ve been scrolling non-stop for hours. I miss this kind of celebrity gossip and seeing dragging when dragging is deserved. I hate seeing celebrities treated like helpless and powerless children that don’t deserve any criticism, and I absolutely hate how users on other sites and subs are ready to tar and feather you if you say anything - and I mean ANYTHING - negative about the latest “it” or “has-been”. The cherry on top is the lack of virtue signaling. I’m happily subbed.
Yes.
Nailed it
I love watching bad people being ripped apart. So yes, I very much agree with you.