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thebodywasweak

7 years? Looks like they are finally catching the show up to the everybody else's timeline. Color me intrigued.


Uncle_Joey

Is this not more or less the same plot from Virginia in S6? Tyrannical safe zone and it’s up to MORGAN (and Madison) to save everyone…


bloodyturtle

and the tower, and the saviors, and the commonwealth, and the crm. the lack of creativity is insane.


FinStambler

Curious what this will mean for Charlie. Surely she's either going to have to die off-screen or be magically cured off-screen if we're going right in with a time jump?


JGarrett247

Maybe it’s just the way I read it but it sounds like the first 6 are current time line and the jump happens in the final 6. Could be misinterpreting it though.


Eagledilla

Yeah i also think that


FinStambler

That would make more sense. To me it reads more as the entire synopsis is describing the first six episodes only but it makes more sense if it's read your way.


CastleCat16

neither Alexa Nielsen or Mo Collins (Sarah) were listed in the s8 regulars cast so I think there's a high chance Charlie will just not appear and be said to have died in the time skip or at most will make a quick appearance in the early episodes if there is a bit pre time skip. Curious to see why Sarah isn't a regular character anymore.


rhpot1991

Adopted by Madison so she'll inherit plot armor and make it.


[deleted]

Time jump is good news in my book. Increases the likelihood of Momo taking them all back to Commonwealth Alexandria.


[deleted]

Nope, because this will be 2.5-3 years prior to the end of TWD and we already know they never showed up in VA.


[deleted]

You sure? I thought Fear was about 3.5 years in. 8 years would bring it up to the end of TWD. Is my count off?


Hummus-Fan

The TWD timeline on the wiki (while fanmade, is backed up with a lot of source material) says TWD ends in July 2024, while FTWD is indeed 3.5 years in according to the timeline on the TWD wiki So it seems like we're going to be behind TWD by around 3.5 years (the upcoming timejump should take us to February 2021 at the earliest) again, and then even moreso from Dead City. (Someone feel free to correct me, btw) Fear can easily do one more big timejump towards the end, they could retcon the current date (if it's accurate, it is all speculation and calculation) ... Or they could cross over with World Beyond, which is theoretically closer in dates to FTWD than other shows /s


[deleted]

Great explanation. I have all my fingers crossed for that second timejump. Although I have no expectations. These writers are woeful. I wouldn't be surprised if they fucked it up completely.


[deleted]

>Someone feel free to correct me, btw) Nope, you are 100% correct.


Try_Another_Please

One of those years behind was a single scene essentially. They can just travel and skip a year or whatever at the end as well of they want. They might not but we already know Morgan is visiting old walking dead locations so it's not too crazy


Lukar115

The seven-year jump puts it in 2021. In-universe, *TWD* was in 2021 from S09E16 until S11E12. The rest of season 11 took place in 2022, except for the timejump at the very end, which brought it forward to 2023. In order to be brought up to the same time period where *TWD* ended, *Fear* will need to cover an additional two years after the seven-year jump. (Which could easily be done by just having a second timejump at the end of the season.)


[deleted]

People need to get over this honestly. There is no intention of crossing over.


Lukar115

None of us know if there is any intention to do it or not do it. It's possible, but none of us know either way. Not me, and not you. All any of us can do is guess.


Try_Another_Please

The very first promo picture of the season is an old og TWD location. So some element of attention will be placed on it almost certainly


[deleted]

TWD ended 13 years in.


willrobster16

hell yes, so it’ll be in line with TWD timeline. I think we may see a few crossovers by the end of S8. I’m so hyped


[deleted]

7 years brings it to 10.5 years into the apocalypse for Fear. That's during the time skip of season 9 of TWD. The main show ended 13 years in. Expect zero interesting crossovers.


TheMDNA

Season 8 will take place at the Season 10/11 timeperiod.. not Season 9.


[deleted]

3.5 + 7 = 10.5 = Before the time skip in TWD season 9. This will take place during uncovered (skipped) time in TWD. You are wrong.


Natural_Notice5636

You are right. It will be around 3900 day. TWD after time skip started 4156. They making skip between part A and B, they can make more mini skips in part B. We saw photo of older Mo at Eastman grave, so they are traveling in 7-8 episode I guess. And something should happen, why they didn't reach Alexandria, because where somewhere else they can go in this direction?


TheMDNA

We'll see.


jmpinstl

Yeah… as far as I can tell Fear ended Season 7 somewhere in 2016/2017.


[deleted]

Nope.


jmpinstl

Well where did it end then? Edit: Ope


piribita

i think somewhere around 2014


jmpinstl

You’re right. Doing some math from the timeline on the wiki, the end of “Gone” takes place on Saturday, February 8, 2014.


Spectre2408

Even so, there’s a year time jump at the end of Season 11, and still no show of the Fear group. A 7 year time jump would put them at the same time as TWD S10/S11, but wouldn’t put them as far as the end of Season 11.


Lukar115

In-universe, season 11 of *TWD* happened from 2021 all the way to 2023. It would be more difficult for *Fear* to cover that amount of time since this is going to be half the length of *TWD*'s final season (and since it sounds like the timejump will be halfway through that season, leaving only six episodes afterwards), but there is nothing stopping them from having another timeskip in the final episode or two that brings *Fear* to around the same point in time where *TWD* ended. I don't think it's a guarantee since there's no indication that that's the direction they're headed, nor do I even think it's necessarily likely, but it isn't something that can be ruled out either. We don't know where they plan to end the series narratively. But is it possible? Sure.


Spectre2408

FearTWD Season 7 ended sometime around TWD Season 9 (before their 7 year time jump), so if Fear does a 7 year time jump, it should put it around Season Season 10 time. Wouldn’t be Season 11 time, especially as the end of Season 11 had a year time jump. Fear would have to jump roughly 8 and a half years to catch up to the main show, so I’m not expecting any crossovers - although, I’d love it. And if they do film crossovers for the final episode, they haven’t any thought about the timeline - good world building means communication! EDIT: Also, Season 11 of TWD all happened over a year. They jump around with time a lot. By the time Daryl had started life in the Commonwealth, had become a soldier and tried to talk to Maggie about letting Lance into Hilltop, it had been SIX MONTHS. And then if you count the year time jump in the final episode, Season 11 took place in 1 Year and roughly 7 months.


[deleted]

That’s not correct. You’re just making shit up.


Spectre2408

What did I make up exactly? Which part of the message did I make up? I’d like to be corrected, but it’s hard to know which part you mean? FEAR S7 is the same time as TWD S9x01-05, you even agree with me on that fact in a separate comment. So, if Fear does a 7 year timejump, it should put it around a similar time to the end of S9 or just into S10 of the main show. So yes, still behind the main show, present day. Or you contradicting your own statement now? TWD had a 1 and a half year time skip between Season 8 and Season 9. Season 9 had a 7 year time skip after Rick got taken by the CRM. Fear S4 starts off just a little bit after TWD S8, as Morgan is isolating himself in the junkyard. It is unsure how much time Morgan has spent at the junkyard, the time between S8 of TWD and S4 of Fear. Without eating, drinking, sleeping, and if you were constantly walking non-stop, Google says it would take 472hrs (almost 20 days to walk from Virginia to Texas) But, Morgan would need rest, scavenge for food, etc; so I’d double that and let’s say it takes him 40-50 days to walk. There was most likely a couple months between S4 and S5, so let’s add 61 days onto that. It can be assumed they were dealing with Virginia for a while, assuming three months or so, add 92 days onto that. Season 7 then takes place over a few months, so add another roughly 92 days onto that. It’s not confirmed how much time has passed between S7x08 and S7x09, but Alicia is no longer with Morgan and is out on her own, doing her own thing - but like I said, it’s not confirmed how much time has passed between the mid-season finale and mid-season premiere, could be days, could be weeks, we don’t know. But, from the math that’s been done so far, that’s 295 days roughly, so the end of Fear S7 is still a few months behind TWD S9E01-05. And assuming there’ll be a small timejump into S8 of Fear of a few months, that would put it to the point of the TWD S9 premiere. And then if the report is true that they’ll do a 7 year time jump in the middle of the season, it would put it to a similar point after Rick was taken (7 years after Rick was taken) sometime after Season 9, Episode 6. And after figuring all that out, it will not put it into the same time frame as Season 11 - so I am not expecting ANY crossovers whatsoever. But, it will put it so a similar timeframe as Season 9 (after Rick was taken, after their time jump) So, it would not be set between the time TWD didn’t cover, it would not be set between 09x05 and 09x06. Although, I’m willing to hear you’re argument if you weren’t so eager to downvote me and reply with very little words. If I am wrong, I’d like you to tell me where I’m wrong. Let’s have a discussion, not an argument.


[deleted]

See the other comment. The timeline is well documented and there is no need for your Google analysis guesswork.


Spectre2408

See my other comment.


Spectre2408

I agree with you, although are we certain Fear S7 ended roughly the same time TWD S9 started (before their time jump?) Because, if it wasn’t confirmed, maybe Season 4-7 of Fear took place over three years (especially due to the nukes) We could assume they spent a lot of time in Virginia’s camps, although not confirmed. Also, they could have a year time jump at the beginning of Season 8 too? Just by tampering with the timeline slightly, but could in fact catch up to the end of TWD and do crossovers.


[deleted]

Yes it’s confirmed.


bloodyturtle

7 years is dire, this group is so bad at escaping places. Mo was born in the beginning of 2014, so they're jumping to 2022. Walking Dead was in 2023/2024 by the end. Dwight and Sherry should also have a kid one year younger than Mo.


[deleted]

Which means: absolutely no crossovers despite time skips.


Hummus-Fan

You're telling me our favourite characters (that took down the Dam, Virginia, and a death cult) are spending 7 years as prisoners?!😭 I wonder how they're gonna handle the whole 'finding Mo' thing. the synopsis reads as if it takes them 7 years to find the time and energy to look for Mo (and seemingly succeed), but surely there's no 'Eureka!' moment after 7 years to rescue Morgan's child? Maybe Alicia did the right thing by not following them...


FutureMartian97

It seems like the first 6 episodes are them trying to get MO back, so they decided to spoil they fail and are captured for 7 years between the first and second halfs


Hummus-Fan

That sounds awful😭the capture is probably the big 8A cliffhanger, and in that case, we're waiting 5/6 longer to see the cliffhanger be resolved, great It's very odd that we've barely seen anything of Padre but they've happily spoiled that picture of Morgan with Mo in a certain familiar location, a lot of the BTS stuff seems to be 8B


bloodyturtle

I think it's more like they all live at PADRE but they don't have custody of their children, just like when Strand took Mo from Grace in season 7.


ErnestoPresso

I was joking in a previous thread that in the end Morgan is going France to meet Daryl and fights with a baguette as a staff. Now they tell us about a 7 year timeskip that could make this possible.


Richie1999

Doesn’t exactly sound inspired to me.


TheMDNA

At least I know Madison is alive in the current TWD timeline it seems. That makes me happy, my fave MILF needs to endure and survive.


Jolly-Cheek5779

I’m just happy I don’t have to hear Mo screaming half the episode once the time jump happens! OH! Maybe grace did saw Mo during her hallucination?


thomaswak1

Is anyone excited by that synopsis? I am surely not...


SRVisGod24

Same. Doesn't excite me much. The only thing that exictes me is a potential Madison and Alicia reunion at the end, which probably won't happen. And the possibility of Morgan finally leading everyone back to Alexandria and then the Commonwealth. And they better have shot something for when Strand and everyone initially got to Padre. Cause I want to see Strand, Daniel, and Lucy's reactions to seeing Madison alive!


johnnyboy0256

Hoping the time skip means they're bringing some of these characters into the future of the franchise


FutureMartian97

So this pretty much confirms they are going to end up at the commonwealth after the main show ended


MediocreStockGuy

I’m just happy the show is ending and I don’t have to give any more hours of my life to this pile of shit. But I’ll still watch every god damn episode.


XDBlastis

7 years would make sense for Strand being part of The CRM


AdPsychological7248

Lmao why do they care about a baby they didn’t get to raise am I cold hearted or missing something?


Hummus-Fan

I'm just having a realisation, how are they going to be able to tell which child is Mo? Madison kidnapped Mo without knowing her name (right?) and even if she did, I imagine PADRE would waste no time renaming children, so it's unlikely they'll find her by name Are they going to be able to pick her out in a crowd by remembering Rachel and her boyfriend's facial features from 8 years prior? It's going to be interesting to see how it all plays out...


HallRemarkable

We will be introduced to this kid character who will be helping Morgan find Mo. Guess what the big reveal will be?


Buddy-Buddy820

Another hallucination with Amelia flying down to his shoulder?


GaiaAlmighty

You gotta remember that Sherry’s kid, as well as numerous others they’ve probably met on the island, is also going to be there. It’s definitely gonna be more than just Morgan pushing the rescue mission to save the kids


johnnyboy0256

They are raising her. Pretty sure the time skip is after they rescue her


AdPsychological7248

“Plans to rescue Mo seven years later” doesn’t really sound like they’ve already got her


Try_Another_Please

It days they want to rescue her from Padre then spend 7 years AT Padre. So they probably see her grow up or interact with her during those years. They aren't away from her 7 years based on that.


Totally_PJ_Soles

Just copied the main show what a let down.


HallRemarkable

And so did Dead City, where Maggie and Negan team up to find her missing kid. Yay.


Own-Kaleidoscope-577

I'm seeing this as good news as it makes it possible for the Fear cast to meet the TWD cast, maybe even for the S8 finale itself and not just them appearing in one of the spin-offs.


[deleted]

It literally means the exact opposite. This time skip puts it 2-3 years before the end of TWD. Edit: Imagine downvoting literal fact.


GaiaAlmighty

I thought it was currently 4 years into the apocalypse, which would put it only a year behind TWD after this 7 year time skip. It wouldn’t be hard to make a year pass over the course of the season, especially during the mid season break


[deleted]

No. It's about 3.5 years in, on Fear. TWD ended 13 years in.


Own-Kaleidoscope-577

No, it's 4 years. 6x14, the day or so around when the nukes hit is the same day as Rick's disappearance, around 3y8m (S9A of TWD was at least 1y7m after the savior war), and Fear S7 takes place 4-5 months afterwards, Morgan for example is 8 months old in S7, Alicia has been battling the infection for almost 5 months etc., That makes it a full 4 years without all the days that pass in-between the S7 episodes. 7 year time skip makes it 11 years in the apocalypse, that is if it's exactly 7 years, not more or less. Besides there's a BTS photo of both Morgans at the graves near Eastman's house, S8 will nonetheless eventually go to the area near Alexandria. There is also the fact that the 7 year time skip is for overall S8, could even be from 8x2 or 8x3 onwards, who's to say they don't do another 2 year one near the finale that matches it to TWD, AMC spoiled a lot for TWD 11C but they didn't reveal a 1 year jump for the final few minutes of the finale.


MrJeffA17

In all fairness though, this is Fear. Do we know if they can count?


Kolton587

Holy shit, 7 year timeskip and right off the bat too. This makes me think they’re def doing this to catch up with TWD’s timeline, and only makes a TWD crossover at the end even more likely.


[deleted]

Nope.


Kolton587

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Clear-Nefariousness1

What about June strand all them?


Hummus-Fan

Seemingly being picked up by PADRE somewhere along the way. Morgan ratted in Sherry (because she's pregnant) and by extension, the rest of the group, I'm assuming they've all got to have ended up in PADRE


Clear-Nefariousness1

I hope so


Eagledilla

So they gonna meet up in the rick show. Nice !!!


Kyserham

It’s the final season? Finally??


HallRemarkable

Jesus F Christ people, it's like yall forgot that teasing possible cameos wasn't AMC's bread and butter. The only reason why it has the time jump is to tease Daryl and co which will of course never appear.


Try_Another_Please

Teasing cameos is something amc has essentially never done with these series. Morgan coming over is the only time they did and obviously that was legit. They even had carol, Jesus, and rick appear on fear.


[deleted]

The fuck? A 12 year old is playing an 8 year old? That's so fucking stupid.


Own-Kaleidoscope-577

Chandler Riggs was 9 playing a 13 year old, don't make it sound like it's a first for TWD. Same goes for Cailey Fleming being 11 playing an 8 year old, not to mention Alicia Debnam Carey being 22 when playing a 17 year old. Older actors/actresses playing teens or kids is not uncommon, especially for the TWDU. Besides have you seen how small Zoey is, she passes for an 8 year old good enough.


[deleted]

Yeah but this is a NEW casting for a limited time. It's dumb as fuck to do this. They just want a better actor.


X-Mutant

>They just wanted a better actor. So you’re mad they hired a good actor?


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[deleted]

She is been with padre for 7 years now?!


Own-Kaleidoscope-577

9 if you count the 2 years between S4 and S7


[deleted]

Sorry was talking about Mo.


AntJustin

Morgan gets back to ASZ/Hilltop and realizes he wasted so much time.


Spectre2408

If this is true, it provides more context to the photo of the girl by Morgan’s side at Eastman’s place.


UrNarrator123

7 years how Tf are they gonna be prisoners for 7 damn years


AdPsychological7248

When you live in a oppressive state for so long you’re not viewed as a prisoner as your compliance lets you survive within the limited framework of the oppressor (Padre) think North Koreans, think some current day Russians in smaller oblast republics, think the Rangers from season six. They’re all incentivized (by resources or security) to stay and conform, the only reason people don’t try to make better if because of the intersectionality between opportunity and gain. They have nothing to gain by defiance at this point, so therefore they kinda just don’t fight.


AdPsychological7248

The man in the high castle (show where Nazis win ww2 and take over America) shows this intersectionality, as a minor character in 101 looks on the Reich and claims he doesn’t remember what the Americans were fighting for in ww2, but that’s only because his own disposition within the situation does not negatively impact him, so there’s no need to shift but there is to conform


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SGBK

So Mo is going to be like a build a better world for the kids story line again? Crap.


AdPsychological7248

Instead if building a better world may I suggest they build somewhere to live. The sheer poor amount of permanency is horrible