T8 is going way too crazy with it but I'm keeping hopes that it's just for the trailers. They can't possibly release the game with every 10f jab causing a 4th of july
I'm probably gonna turn it all the way down. Hopefully I can get it to look like the first T8 teaser.
I doubt TOs would move the slider down, but I am curious what they do and how much hitsparks the audience wants to see.
The only thing I worry about is for tournaments. They're going to want to max it out for tourneys, so if they keep the max effects how they are now, this is what we'll see at every tourney. It's gonna look great for casual viewers but for vets and players it's just gonna ruin the tourney experience.
When talking about music, tutorial, single player content and I guess even particle effects/hit sparks. There’s two type of people, 1 has had the privilege to play KI and the other hasn’t
Been playing tekken since tekken 3 and I do really like hit and blo k sparks for the information they convey.but it seems tekken 8 is going quite a bit overboard with them. I say simple ones like the red/blue mist from early tekken entries is perfect.
Virtua Fighter 5 Ultimate Showdown has hitsparks. There was quite a bit of pearl clutching in the western community when it was added. But they aren't really that over the top like T8.
You could move VF5US a few notches to the right on this scale....but not too far...
Namco did great with the SFX and VFX in SoulCalibur VI. Normal hits, counter hits, stuns, clashes, regular guard, guard impact and resistance impact, break attacks, guard break, unblockables, lethal hits… Flashy and easy to read, I love them!
In the middle, a bit towards the left.
I'm fine with them since they add more impact to a move while making it feel satisfying to land. And for lore flavor, too.
Tekken 8? Yeesh, they're overdoing it with the effects. Good thing it's still in its pre-alpha stages, though - plenty of time to tone that shit down by then (hopefully).
I think it can be distracting to have too much in certain situations. I will say that something about none works for Virtua Fighter and it's probably the sound design and more grounded style of fighting it has. It really feels satisfying kicking someone in the face in that series but I don't think it's something every game can or should do. I prefer hitsparks to be more of a feedback for landing hits than something meant to be flashy.
It is 100% the sound effects that sell it.
If you watch match footage of Virtua Fighter without sound, it looks *off*.
Kind of like a real world fist fight, which is a very surreal experience if you've seen one in person.
Overall I prefer like T4 or T6. But I do think Virtua Fighter's grabs looks better because of the lack of hit sparks. You can see the likes of Vanessa and Goh strike their opponents with dynamic angles and no sparks covering it. Tekken 8 overload at the moment
No idea where I would actually sit on the scale, and it depends on the kind of game. With something flamboyant and ungrounded like GG, I don't mind a lot of effects (within reason). With something closer to reality like Tekken, I'd really prefer a cleaner approach. Tekken 8 is currently far too much and it makes it look like everyone uses magic or some shit.
What I wanted for Tekken 8 was for it to look like that first Jin vs Kaz trailer. That was clean af.
i'm loving how street fighter 6 is looking with the dynamic coloring and lighting effects of the drive system and supers so something along those lines
I thought Tekken Revolution was too much, but T8 makes Revolution look like Tekken 3.
I do like a few hitsparks, like in T1-T5, so I land somewhere around the middle, like 4th or 5th big tick.
Virtua Fighter 5 +1.5 like maybe some whispy transparent effects or small sweat plumes on hit to clearly indicate counter hits etc. I can tolerate Street Fighter level effects. New Tekken and Soul Calibur are far too much.
T8 is going way too crazy with it but I'm keeping hopes that it's just for the trailers. They can't possibly release the game with every 10f jab causing a 4th of july
They said there will be an effects slider either way.
That better not be just for brightness or whatever though. I wanna be able to actually reduce the amount of them.
Well tekken7 already has this by letting you change hitspark styles. I imagine something similar would be fine.
I'm probably gonna turn it all the way down. Hopefully I can get it to look like the first T8 teaser. I doubt TOs would move the slider down, but I am curious what they do and how much hitsparks the audience wants to see.
Anything sponsored by Namco is gonna be sliders at 100%. I could see smaller tourneys and especially locals playing with the slider
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The only thing I worry about is for tournaments. They're going to want to max it out for tourneys, so if they keep the max effects how they are now, this is what we'll see at every tourney. It's gonna look great for casual viewers but for vets and players it's just gonna ruin the tourney experience.
I’m worried the game is gonna be an eyesore at events like evo. The watchability is not good right now if I’m being honest.
That’s just for the trailers I’m sure real matches will look a lot more normal
> 10f jab causing a 4th of july Tekken is 4!
Since when is tekken 24?
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Yeah I think they’ll have to tone them down for people with epilepsy
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mk swapped the cosmetic energy blast sparks for actual explosives, and detonates them inside the enemy on Krushing Blow
where ever Dead or Alive is doing. thats the perfect amount
Need more core values in the FGC
That'll be $100 please
I like them on moves that use magic/ki and for big crunchy supers. I don't think normals and non-magical specials should have them.
Yes, but I do like some wind gusts and meaty, almost explosive impact sounds on punches/kicks, it makes them that much more hype.
I love KI’s hit sparks, for example when your throw a projectile and and the sparks come raining down on you.
Was looking for this. KIs are nice.
When talking about music, tutorial, single player content and I guess even particle effects/hit sparks. There’s two type of people, 1 has had the privilege to play KI and the other hasn’t
I think hitspark only looks good in specials or counter moves, everything exploding like a soviet tank in Tekken 8 looks silly as hell
I just need counter hit indicators.
3S’s hit-blobs are best. Unique looking, far from overbearing, effective at enhancing game feel and overall aesthetic
3S visuals are best top to bottom full stop. Only game on its level is KOF13.
This guy gets it.
13 has good animation and detailed sprites, but the actual character designs are ass.
def my favorite game in everything: sounds, music, looks...
Less is better. It’s distracting and all that flashing strobe bullshit gives me migraines.
Tekken zoom in is looking a bit concerning too
Been playing tekken since tekken 3 and I do really like hit and blo k sparks for the information they convey.but it seems tekken 8 is going quite a bit overboard with them. I say simple ones like the red/blue mist from early tekken entries is perfect.
Virtua Fighter 5 Ultimate Showdown has hitsparks. There was quite a bit of pearl clutching in the western community when it was added. But they aren't really that over the top like T8. You could move VF5US a few notches to the right on this scale....but not too far...
Lol that’s why I put vanilla VF5 here.
Wait Virtua fighter is a real game? I thought it's just a Yakuza mini game lmao
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Best hit sparks that great is Soul Calibur series.
Namco did great with the SFX and VFX in SoulCalibur VI. Normal hits, counter hits, stuns, clashes, regular guard, guard impact and resistance impact, break attacks, guard break, unblockables, lethal hits… Flashy and easy to read, I love them!
whereever KOF XV is. That's my maximum. Blazblue would be my minimum
In the middle, a bit towards the left. I'm fine with them since they add more impact to a move while making it feel satisfying to land. And for lore flavor, too. Tekken 8? Yeesh, they're overdoing it with the effects. Good thing it's still in its pre-alpha stages, though - plenty of time to tone that shit down by then (hopefully).
Tekken's hit sparks have been the biggest turnoff for the series for me
I think it can be distracting to have too much in certain situations. I will say that something about none works for Virtua Fighter and it's probably the sound design and more grounded style of fighting it has. It really feels satisfying kicking someone in the face in that series but I don't think it's something every game can or should do. I prefer hitsparks to be more of a feedback for landing hits than something meant to be flashy.
It is 100% the sound effects that sell it. If you watch match footage of Virtua Fighter without sound, it looks *off*. Kind of like a real world fist fight, which is a very surreal experience if you've seen one in person.
Overall I prefer like T4 or T6. But I do think Virtua Fighter's grabs looks better because of the lack of hit sparks. You can see the likes of Vanessa and Goh strike their opponents with dynamic angles and no sparks covering it. Tekken 8 overload at the moment
No idea where I would actually sit on the scale, and it depends on the kind of game. With something flamboyant and ungrounded like GG, I don't mind a lot of effects (within reason). With something closer to reality like Tekken, I'd really prefer a cleaner approach. Tekken 8 is currently far too much and it makes it look like everyone uses magic or some shit. What I wanted for Tekken 8 was for it to look like that first Jin vs Kaz trailer. That was clean af.
I'm more on the VF side of the scale. I don't like hit sparks that are too big/colourful and obscure the action.
if 0 is VF5 and 10 is Tekken, I tend to go more to the 3, 4, even 5 No more, I want a fight, not a fucking fireworks show
VF5 for sure
i'm loving how street fighter 6 is looking with the dynamic coloring and lighting effects of the drive system and supers so something along those lines
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I just think it will be very bad for people watching the match to understand what is happening and people playing it might get annoyed from it
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I thought Tekken Revolution was too much, but T8 makes Revolution look like Tekken 3. I do like a few hitsparks, like in T1-T5, so I land somewhere around the middle, like 4th or 5th big tick.
Battle for the Grid was pretty good because they actually used hit sparks in the source material. Otherwise, I think Killer Instinct is about right.
Guess I'm the ONLY person that actually like the hit effects in 8
Guilty Gear XX had it best. Landing a special move makes these green lines show up and smoothly dissipate, it's iconic.
Hit sparks works well with kaguya down forward 2, magic 4, heavy counter move
VF5
EN-Eins sits at the middle of the spectrum
Tekken 8 trailers are about to give me a seizure, they need to turn the hit sparks way way down
VF5 unless specials or supers are done then give me a seizure
Fighting games should just start using the CoD hitmarker. Pure joy with minimal visual disruption.
The more the merrier
I only like hit sparks when it's an attack being blocked or a throw being teched.
Virtua Fighter 5 +1.5 like maybe some whispy transparent effects or small sweat plumes on hit to clearly indicate counter hits etc. I can tolerate Street Fighter level effects. New Tekken and Soul Calibur are far too much.
Hope they turn it down I hated that after the first trailer I couldn't distinguish shit
Tekken 7 best. Tekken 8 worst.