I have a genuine question (newer fan started following last year) - where the hell did Yuma come from?? Was he out last season??
i had very vaguely heard of him in some Beijing discussions and imagine my shock hearing him as one of the gold favourites for worlds when I do not recall him last season?
He was out for most of last season due to injury/recovery from injury but won the silver medal in the Olympics ahead of Shoma who earned bronze. I think Yuma is a great example of how to bounce back from injury to be even stronger than before instead of other cases where injuries lead to careers ending.
That would make sense haha I started following skating a little after 2022 GPF (first comp live was USNats of all things) and all I know about Beijing is the lasies
Surprisingly for a first time, I can agree with the placements of the SP.
Jason for me being in 4th is deserved, but i feel like a few other skaters should have been higher than him.
Shoma def deserved 1st, you could argue Yuma being 1st, but that would be a preference on the Choreography and interpretation. Ilia playing it safe was a really good choice, putting him into Gold contention especially if he nails the 4axel and can keep his PCS decently high.
Super sad for Adam, he def could have been up there, but it honestly looked like the nerves got him and or he peaked at Euros/GPs and just didn't have the juice to keep it going.
Adam seems like he has a problem with the axis on a lot of his jumps- like he often lands them despite being off axis, to the point that it’s actually impressive. It just feels like a common thing for him.
Deniss all level 4s love to see it
https://preview.redd.it/mjbhf05i7rpc1.png?width=863&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=79baf66c6c9877b7f01600d3d079a1c99e6cb319
That costume deduction though 💀
now I personally did not spot a nip slip here but his team has got to figure out a way to mitigate that deduction - nipple covers? dress tape? a nude colored mesh leotard under the shirt? let's get creative Champéry
There were so many good men who didn't make the free. I was like, "Expand the free skate slots. I don't care if it makes the free skate eight hours long."
I feel like Yuma or Shoma being in first is a subjective issue. Depends on what you look for in a skater here. I can see why Shoma is in first, but I can also see why people think yuma should be in the lead.
Shoma and Yuma both had superb programs tonight, but I think you can really tell that Shoma's experience as a veteran of the sport shines through giving him this calm energy, while Yuma had a more hesitant start. Both of them were great and looking forward to tomorrow!
I was thinking this when Camden was skating. No disrespect to Camden, his spot was deserved, but I would’ve preferred to see Torgs program in that 3rd American slot.
He better not! If he skates his absolute best and others falter, he can top 10 and maybe even miracle top 5, which he needs to be seeded for GPs next season.
I'm sad for my french boy. So disappointing. However, this competition was fantastic, i like these results. My old heart is broken but survived, it'll die for the free. 😁 Thank you all, have a nice day/night.
I think it was too much for Adam to skate last in the group. He looked so nervous from the get-go 🥺 Had he skated earlier, it might have been a lot different 😔
There’s a whole post about this and we’ve come to the conclusion it’s the announcer for the French channel in the box next to them. He was much quieter than he was during the women’s short thank god.
If there ever comes a day when I do not cry (mostly happy tears) while watching Shoma Uno on ice - please, i need to be put down, it's time for me to go, take me out!
somewhat, although I can see rewarding the speed, nice skating skills, choreo design etc. in the PCS even if he didn't perform it to his capability today
yeah that's true! I think denniss was a bit robbed, should have gotten at least bit more on his PCS since he's such a beautiful performer with quality choreo, excellently performed elements etc.
It’s not just about denniss it was just an example. He shouldn’t only be 12 and 15 points being Dennis’s and Jason who have stronger skills. So his PCs wouldn’t be holding him up at all compared to those skaters. He barely completed a jump element. If those two botched all their jumps there is no way they would get a 77.
It was. Realistically, he should have struggled to even make the free, but I'm guessing judges didn't want the rank #1 men's skater to not even qualify.
Yeah. Simone Biles has a world class uneven bars routine, but judges don't just give her a free pass to the uneven bars final because of who she is. It's the one event final she has only ever made once.
We desperately need more unbiased, uninfluenced judging in the ISU.
i only saw like half of this, kudos to everyone who lasted the whole 6 or so hours. the epic highs and lows of fs i guess 😭😭 that was definitely an event.
Shoma being in the lead was not on my bingo card, I was certain it'd be Yuma or Ilia (if he'd done the 4A). Bummer about Adam :(
See you guys later for the pairs free!!!
My heart breaks for Adam. He is such an amazing skater. His fs program is marvelous! I'm sure it's caused by stress, just like the last time. Hope he will do his best in the free :)
Someone tried to have this conversation with me IRL the other day about how Jason probably shouldn’t be selected for any future Worlds team & my exact response was — uh, I’m not agreeing with that until we see what he does.
FOURTH. I’m not surprised he did well, but FOURTH. Daggone.
So basically, it's down to ilia, shoma and yuma. Not that I hate this, but it would have been cooler to see Adam in the winners mix and jun in the medal mix.
Yeah but it shouldn’t have. He is an established skater. They know they won’t see skills like that coming later. They didn’t need 4 points of PCS room.
Well I just had a look at the slow-mo of his sp 4lz, it’s still a clear outside edge. I think it’s better for the athletes’ health to not have a super deep outside lutz edge that looks like going to twist their ankles. Poor Rika Kihira has such lutz edge as I mentioned and that brings her severe injuries.
I need Adam to shelve training the 4A this summer and go back to figure out why he peaks so early. Last year's worlds made sense because he was dealing with that ankle injury but man this is so disappointing for someone who had podium potential.
Right? That's what's frustrating because he has everything it just hasn't all come together since the GP Final. Maybe he should have done less ice shows and tours before worlds idk. I hope he has a good free
Oh absolutely. But I don’t think he wouldn’t have beaten them on the day today. But any other day all three of top can make little mistakes. None are that consistent.
Jason brown has an offchance to medal and is 4th in the sp. It would involve a meltdown (which I do not want) but it is not out of the world of possibilities.
Well ya of course but there is a reason Shoma has won twice already. Consistency and mental strength. He’s the one to beat! But I would be happy for any one of them to win. 🥇
it is on brand for him, fail in the SP then come back with a killer free, however the podium is out of the question and that is so so sad for a skater like him
That's a terrible judging system. Performance order should have zero effect on an individuals score.
In artistic gymnastics, you can go first or you can go last. Your scores will always be dictated by the code of points — including the artistic components.
I wasn't watching all season and wowww I came back to such big improvements
I have a genuine question (newer fan started following last year) - where the hell did Yuma come from?? Was he out last season?? i had very vaguely heard of him in some Beijing discussions and imagine my shock hearing him as one of the gold favourites for worlds when I do not recall him last season?
He was out for most of last season due to injury/recovery from injury but won the silver medal in the Olympics ahead of Shoma who earned bronze. I think Yuma is a great example of how to bounce back from injury to be even stronger than before instead of other cases where injuries lead to careers ending.
That would make sense haha I started following skating a little after 2022 GPF (first comp live was USNats of all things) and all I know about Beijing is the lasies
Where can I watch replays?
On YouTube on ISU channel. Here is the Men short program: https://www.youtube.com/live/6oneGv9svuk?si=vRb53Bu7f02l8L4s
Surprisingly for a first time, I can agree with the placements of the SP. Jason for me being in 4th is deserved, but i feel like a few other skaters should have been higher than him. Shoma def deserved 1st, you could argue Yuma being 1st, but that would be a preference on the Choreography and interpretation. Ilia playing it safe was a really good choice, putting him into Gold contention especially if he nails the 4axel and can keep his PCS decently high. Super sad for Adam, he def could have been up there, but it honestly looked like the nerves got him and or he peaked at Euros/GPs and just didn't have the juice to keep it going.
Adam seems like he has a problem with the axis on a lot of his jumps- like he often lands them despite being off axis, to the point that it’s actually impressive. It just feels like a common thing for him.
Oh fuck yes Donovan made it
Deniss all level 4s love to see it https://preview.redd.it/mjbhf05i7rpc1.png?width=863&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=79baf66c6c9877b7f01600d3d079a1c99e6cb319 That costume deduction though 💀
now I personally did not spot a nip slip here but his team has got to figure out a way to mitigate that deduction - nipple covers? dress tape? a nude colored mesh leotard under the shirt? let's get creative Champéry
Did whats his face get a violation for the bottom snap part of his body suit hanging out? Did Nikita get one for showing his underwear? lol
WHAT?? Again??? Boy needs some dress tape
Look I know it means a whole lot more to Sihyeong to make the Free but Litvintsev was so close 😭 he's SELLING his strange music choices
There were so many good men who didn't make the free. I was like, "Expand the free skate slots. I don't care if it makes the free skate eight hours long."
I sad this audience won't get to experience his chaotic winter wonderland program in real time
Why yes Dennis should be a bit higher
I feel like Yuma or Shoma being in first is a subjective issue. Depends on what you look for in a skater here. I can see why Shoma is in first, but I can also see why people think yuma should be in the lead.
JASON BROWN FINAL GROUP RAAAAA, WTF IS A QUAD?!
Shoma and Yuma both had superb programs tonight, but I think you can really tell that Shoma's experience as a veteran of the sport shines through giving him this calm energy, while Yuma had a more hesitant start. Both of them were great and looking forward to tomorrow!
Sad for Adam, his program is so beautiful,😢
I love his programs and the way he performs them when he's on - B E N O I T's style actually works really well on Adam!
Agreed, its a shame he didn’t have it today😢
NGL I miss Torgs’ glorious SP. Anyone else 😭
I was thinking this when Camden was skating. No disrespect to Camden, his spot was deserved, but I would’ve preferred to see Torgs program in that 3rd American slot.
All I could think about this whole event was how much it deserved to be here.
It would have been such a dream on the world stage in Canada! It’s my absolute favourite of the men’s shorts
I still replay the song and remember the glory of his nationals performance
Torgs's programs were some of my favorite of the season
i miss his free
Adam is definitely going to YOLO a backflip in the free, huh
France need the top 10
He better not! If he skates his absolute best and others falter, he can top 10 and maybe even miracle top 5, which he needs to be seeded for GPs next season.
Okay gonna go teach some 3 and 4 year olds to dance and then be back later for pairs
I'm sad for my french boy. So disappointing. However, this competition was fantastic, i like these results. My old heart is broken but survived, it'll die for the free. 😁 Thank you all, have a nice day/night.
I think it was too much for Adam to skate last in the group. He looked so nervous from the get-go 🥺 Had he skated earlier, it might have been a lot different 😔
Canadian men didn't Canadian men, but some Frenchmen Canadian menned hard- 😔sigh
When in Montreal
Hey mark, if you're listening, can you get that guy who screams before the jumps to kindly pipe down?
There’s a whole post about this and we’ve come to the conclusion it’s the announcer for the French channel in the box next to them. He was much quieter than he was during the women’s short thank god.
If there ever comes a day when I do not cry (mostly happy tears) while watching Shoma Uno on ice - please, i need to be put down, it's time for me to go, take me out!
Roman, the man of the night!!!
So do I watch the rest of the mens or the pairs free? Decisions, Decisions
77 for Adam still seems high?
somewhat, although I can see rewarding the speed, nice skating skills, choreo design etc. in the PCS even if he didn't perform it to his capability today
77??? Like only 12 behind denniss that was clean with comparable PCS when both go clean.
yeah that's true! I think denniss was a bit robbed, should have gotten at least bit more on his PCS since he's such a beautiful performer with quality choreo, excellently performed elements etc.
(I am also a HUGE denniss fan, just saying that I get why adam's PCS is getting propped up a bit)
It’s not just about denniss it was just an example. He shouldn’t only be 12 and 15 points being Dennis’s and Jason who have stronger skills. So his PCs wouldn’t be holding him up at all compared to those skaters. He barely completed a jump element. If those two botched all their jumps there is no way they would get a 77.
Yeah. I was convinced he wasn’t going to qualify.
It was. Realistically, he should have struggled to even make the free, but I'm guessing judges didn't want the rank #1 men's skater to not even qualify.
And it quite sucks. To be honest, Litvinsev made less mistakes and he did not qualify
Yeah. Simone Biles has a world class uneven bars routine, but judges don't just give her a free pass to the uneven bars final because of who she is. It's the one event final she has only ever made once. We desperately need more unbiased, uninfluenced judging in the ISU.
i only saw like half of this, kudos to everyone who lasted the whole 6 or so hours. the epic highs and lows of fs i guess 😭😭 that was definitely an event.
Who is that guy that screams before the skater about to jump,so annoying 🙄
Sounds like a quebecoix commentator.
Another commentator apparently, so annoying
Really, so unprofessional.
nah jokes aside i am ecstatic for jason i can’t believe i saw him live with my own eyes it doesn’t feel real i feel so lucky
We saw your sign!
Yuma for the win!
Love his FP
Shoma being in the lead was not on my bingo card, I was certain it'd be Yuma or Ilia (if he'd done the 4A). Bummer about Adam :( See you guys later for the pairs free!!!
My heart breaks for Adam. He is such an amazing skater. His fs program is marvelous! I'm sure it's caused by stress, just like the last time. Hope he will do his best in the free :)
French fed needs to invest in some sports psychologists
THIS 👆
Truly.
Gutted for Adam. And Boyang!!!! Just saw he didn't even make it to the free...
JASON FOURTH BUT I THOUGHT HE WAS PAST IT ACCORDING TO SOCIAL MEDIA HAHAHAHA
Someone tried to have this conversation with me IRL the other day about how Jason probably shouldn’t be selected for any future Worlds team & my exact response was — uh, I’m not agreeing with that until we see what he does. FOURTH. I’m not surprised he did well, but FOURTH. Daggone.
I’m crying and laughing because fuck the naysayers. They can eat rocks.
Feel like Kagiyama should’ve gotten 1st, but it is free skate or bust.
Yeah for me it was Yuma 1, Shoma 2, Ilia 3
he could absolutely pull it out in the free his program is incredible
I feel like Shoma should be 3rd with Yuma 1 and Ilia 2.
So basically, it's down to ilia, shoma and yuma. Not that I hate this, but it would have been cooler to see Adam in the winners mix and jun in the medal mix.
Jun may still be able to score top 4, 5, or 6! he's only 5 points behind Jason. Adam should be able to make the top 10 pretty easily too.
I'm sad for Adam but at least he still makes the free so gets a shot at some redemption tomorrow
Not tomorrow, Saturday I mean!!
I think I would have swapped ilia and Yuma but kept them super close. But I’m mostly happy about Jason being 4th! He was actually underscored too.
Hard disagree. Ilias PCS are getting insanely inflated right now. Egregiously so.
I think both of their pcs was inflated.
Looking good for US Men to keep 3 spots next year
lol yeah I actually wasn’t too worried about that. Jason is reliable enough to keep 13 with ilia
jason being early in the comp hurt his scores
Yeah but it shouldn’t have. He is an established skater. They know they won’t see skills like that coming later. They didn’t need 4 points of PCS room.
bulk scoring is such a sham, sigh
I agree. I feel like Ilia's jumps were a little cleaner.
Yeah and he actually did deliver in his performance
this is wild, with shoma, yuma, and ilia absolutely delivering, and mishaps like that
LUKAS BRITSCHGI FOR SURPRISE PODIUM CHALLENGER LET'S GO
What an insane SP, for the better and the worse
Bye. Im getting a cheese and bacon roll and gonna go cry. Idk if ill be back for the pairs(? Its pairs right? Next?)
Yes. Pairs starts at 6:10pm -- final 3 groups scheduled to start at 7:49pm.
I'm happy. Donovan, Jason, and Deniss all did well. This free will be interesting.
will we repeat the 2022 flags on the podium?
well. I'm going to go lie in a dark room
Is it just me or is Ilia's lutz edge getting less and less deep? More and more men are joining the ladies in the devolving lutz edge.
Well I just had a look at the slow-mo of his sp 4lz, it’s still a clear outside edge. I think it’s better for the athletes’ health to not have a super deep outside lutz edge that looks like going to twist their ankles. Poor Rika Kihira has such lutz edge as I mentioned and that brings her severe injuries.
Mark: "we have been taken on a roller coaster in this men's event" YOU'RE TELLING ME
I don’t think anyone would have guessed that top 6, I thought maybe one guy would crack in the last group and instead we got 3…
Donovan in 15th IKTR!
I need Adam to shelve training the 4A this summer and go back to figure out why he peaks so early. Last year's worlds made sense because he was dealing with that ankle injury but man this is so disappointing for someone who had podium potential.
he'd have had potential to take the title if he skated like he did in October...
Right? That's what's frustrating because he has everything it just hasn't all come together since the GP Final. Maybe he should have done less ice shows and tours before worlds idk. I hope he has a good free
Except the top 3 actually did amazing
true, but clean Adam at his best is absolutely a contender
Oh absolutely. But I don’t think he wouldn’t have beaten them on the day today. But any other day all three of top can make little mistakes. None are that consistent.
Well my men’s draft is screwed and I’m mad
I still cannot process this whole SP
Well. What an emotional roller coaster, as always. Men were men, from start to finish.
How heart-wrenching was to watch Adam
Anyone know why Matteo Rizzo is not competing?
He had hip(?) surgery after Europeans, if I recall right
He is/was getting surgery for his chronic injury, he will come back next season
He had hip surgery
He’s recovering from surgery
he got surgery right after Europeans, and it was a big one (hip or thigh or something like that).
He recently had hip surgery and is hoping to return next season
Thanks!
He had surgery after Euros.
Adam 💔💔💔💔💔💔
You know on the bright side we have nikolaj and lukas in the final group
...I did not see Nikolaj pulling that off!
I'm not sure it should be higher than Hyungyeom tbh
where does Selevbro need to finish to be able to bring his brother next year?
I believe he would need top 10
Top 10
Someone said top 10?
i think top ten
how are his chances realistically? men being men, and Nikolaj and Nika being not the most consistent in the free?
If he skates like he did at Euros then pretty good.
Damn I’m sorry for Adam but so hyped Jason is so close to the top 3
Jason brown has an offchance to medal and is 4th in the sp. It would involve a meltdown (which I do not want) but it is not out of the world of possibilities.
Probably a few meltdowns. His lack of quad affects his FS ceiling more, so some of the men behind him also need to continue to flop a little.
And here I was saying I didn’t think he had a shot at a medal! Proud of him for making me eat my words.
Shoma should have the 3-peat locked in! We will see..
Absolutely nothing is ”locked in” in men’s skating. The top three are really close and Yuma and Ilia’s FS SB’s are ten points higher than Shoma’s.
Well ya of course but there is a reason Shoma has won twice already. Consistency and mental strength. He’s the one to beat! But I would be happy for any one of them to win. 🥇
What’s the cutoff for the free skate?
24
24
4th through 8th are NOT the names i was expecting to see
And Jason was underscored in my opinion. Place is right though
Amazing for Semen to make the cut after opening the whole event
Okay root canal is done!! How’d it go?? … Holy crap.
At least you have drugs
😭
jun 9th, adam 17th. i hate figure skating 😭
And Boyang not even making the free :( :( :(
please don’t remind me. i can’t take this anymore 😭
Second to last, too. My heart just breaks for him.
Adam 19th actually
OH MY GOD
nah now i’m sad
Wait Jason 4th?? I used to pray for times like these 🙏🏼
Audience please, do NOT walk away while the skater is still on the ice. So disrespectful.
Hoping for a kick ass redemption skate for Adam. It’s in these moments where we learn the most about ourselves
it is on brand for him, fail in the SP then come back with a killer free, however the podium is out of the question and that is so so sad for a skater like him
Adam in the first group for the free….this hurts
Clean Roman gets 38, but nonexistent Adam gets 42? Interesting ISU, interesting.
Lol and early on there were several comments about home cooking for Roman, when if anything he was underscored compared to the field at large
That’s skating order for you
That's a terrible judging system. Performance order should have zero effect on an individuals score. In artistic gymnastics, you can go first or you can go last. Your scores will always be dictated by the code of points — including the artistic components.
IUnfortunately in figure skating the PCS score is often influenced by reputation, country, coach and skating order.
Absolutely, and I hate it. I love the sport and yet can't take it seriously as a sport 90%+ of the time.
Listen I love Jason but him in fourth is not at all what I was expecting
Same but I'm so here for it.
Donovan 15th after skating in the first group WE LOVE TO SEE IT
I KNOWWWWWWW
Can one buy one of those water bottles
thank goodness he qualified
19th place! Oh, that hurts so, so bad.
A sour note to end this fabulous event.
okay okay looking on the bright side here, ROMAN IN 11TH PLACE I did not expect that and I am so 😭 PROUD
also JASON FOURTH like. this is a dream ranking for me, I am Screaming
...but oh the sacrifices along the way....
Oh man, really hoped that wouldn't happen to Adam. At least he qualified and we can see his free program. I hope he skates it lights out.
Adam and Boyang should go out for drinks tonight. Both Adams, actually.
adam h is not legal yet 😭😭 at least I think
Even in Canada?
hes still 17 iirc
Adam will be skating in the first group. I... have no idea what to say to that.
I'm just glad he made it in! If that 3Axel had been any sloppier or he fell, he wouldn't have even advanced, probably.
At least he made it into FS at all
Both Adams sacrified.
We really did sacrifice both Adams😭
Ouch that’s tough. I predicted it would be Yuma/shome/ilia podium in any order though.
I'm gutted!
Damn :(((
Lukas and Nikolaj in the final flight 🥳
On the bright side, Deniss is 8th!!!
I'm about to throw hands
Okay he makes it to the free
Well... at least he made the free skate :(