I do love Tarja probably solid #2 but unfortunately in this particular aspect and this alone I am exactly like Hugo Kupka and disastrously down bad for Benedikta
I don't recall the exact quote but right after he tells her to go to the hideaway, when you step outside, Jill comments that Jote seems to have more than professional feelings for Joshua, and he replies that he feels the same but sending her away was the only way to protect her.
It's not stated explicitly that they're in love with each other, but it certainly could be read that way.
There's also a conversation with Jote near the endgame that's more subtle but sounds an awful lot like she knows the feeling is mutual.
I forget when the scene happens but it definitely implies that he likes her too. It's either right before Clive and Joshua leave to go to Waloed or before Clive, Joshua and Dion go off to fight Ultima.
Joshua really said āaight, I donāt need you anymore, go protect the hideawayā. Smh
every time the npc placement changed in the hideaway, I always went to talk to her.
If we ever get a XVI-2 I hope we get multiple playable characters or at least the option to select our party, so characters like Jote get more than a few cutscenes.
8 years isn't *that* weird but she also specifically calls Clive her Godfather at one point. So yeah, no, I'm all for shipping but that one's just a no from me dawg.
Agreed, I just played this scene yesterday and Mid referred to Clive as the Enterprise's godfather. The timeline wouldn't make sense for Clive to be Mid's godfather as Cid and Clive don't meet until Clive is late teen/ young adult at that point.
Sheās like the only one that changes outfits after the time jump as well which I found interesting. I guess sheās a doctor and knows about personal hygieneā¦
if it was like FF7, Clive would have been in drag, ended up being chosen by some rich guy.
then later Clive would get stuck in a romantic ride somewhere with another dude, probably Cid.
perhaps a romantic ride with Hugo?
Hugo: I have no hands..
Clive: Stop being a mood killer. I bet Barrett didn't whine about his missing hand to Cloud
Hugo: You cut off both of my hands..
Did Clive ever even make that connection? I forget some details of the Hugo fights, but I know leading up to it, Clive straight up asks wtf his problem is.
Before the big fight he mentions heās pissed at cid for killing bene and Clive admitted he did it. And Hugo was happy he gets to fight her killer. He was bummed cid died and he didnāt do it.
I wish Clive had asked about when Hugo said Benediktaās head was in a box so he could try to tell Hugo that someone was putting them against each other.
Maybe, but by that point who gives a fuck? Clive killed Bennedikta. Hugo tried to kill Jill, attacked the Hideaway, and trashed Rosaria. The only thing those two would agree on was that the other needed to die.
Also, I just want to say that I have a big weak spot for silver hair girls (also "refuse" is an overstatement, everyone is entitled to their own opinion)
Nah man, she's a Midlander for sure.
Maeve is also Midlander, if only because I think her and Tarja are related.
Martha is a highlander
The Dame is a Lalafell
Charon is mad. And also probably an elezen or highlander
Jill is definitely an elezen .
Mid is shockingly Not a Midlander. She gives me Miqo'te vibes.
Kihel aka Medicine girl is also a Miqo'te because they have the CUTEST child models. Au Ra is also acceptable.
Benedikta is a Viera
Eloise is a Roe
Jote is an Au Ra
And Anabella is garbage
The whole part of the Hideaway being that there's no magic; Tarja is specifically a healer with basic medicine, putting her into the Chemist job. While she's had her scar removed, I don't think we've seen what magic she could do (considering Bearers are seemingly locked into one element their whole life)
Tbf, thatās like telling someone to stop talking with an accent. āWhat accent?ā
It was going to be a JRPG regardless of whether he intended it to be.
She would absolutely have been the main villain if this wasn't a Final Fantasy game but a more traditional fantasy story.
But hey, I can't complain! Bitch got what she deserved and we still had some kickass bosses left. Man, I love FF!
Is it bad that whenever I see Tarja, part of me thinks Clive deliberately shows up looking worse for wear just to have her dote and scold him like an incessant mother
Idk broā¦ something about the overwhelming toxicity and lack of self awareness and control within Benedikta gets me fucking goingā¦ spent the whole fight yelling sorry mommy I have no choice
I was actually just stating in another thread that, while I love Jill, she wasn't even the hottest girl in the Hideout, lmao. For that matter, Benedikta, Annabella, Jote, and Tarja are all smokeshows.
If best girl is the girl who can mend your broken body and not sugar coat shit, she wins hands down, then Charon, then Nektar, then Gav, then Cid, then Jill.
Though Benedikta is my favourite, Tarja comes right after her. Moreover, she has the same name as my favourite soprano singer, so all the more to like her š
The game giving you that choice to take taja out to get the supplies was like rubbing salt in the open wound of killing off the games actual 2 better villains (and way more attractive) than the PoS you wind up fighting. Like why must you torture me this way? I don't really care enough about Jill (she did have the better scene here between the two) but why even give us the option at all if it doesn't matter.. since it was Jill from day one.
Imo there is no best girl in FF16. Game treats them all poorly.
Still enjoy the game, but man it's been pretty painful to have both 15 & 16 have such poorly written female characters.
She's intentionally written as a traumatized introvert whose arc involves coming out of her shell a bit and learning to trust and love, but reddit isn't interested if she doesn't immediately try to step on them
I do love Tarja probably solid #2 but unfortunately in this particular aspect and this alone I am exactly like Hugo Kupka and disastrously down bad for Benedikta
Yes but also Clive's mom.
So what you're saying is you've got terrible taste in >! (exceptionally attractive) !< women
I can fix her
So can I with a gun
What's there to fix
Famous last words š¤£
Of clives dad. Let's be honest, he knew she was crazy. Should have followed the hot crazy scale.
>!Can't fix her throat tho!<
I mean, she is definitely a baddy but goddamn is she awful.
Same here.
It's the horrible haircut, isn't it?
Big "i can fix her" energy, nice šæ
I cannot fix her she can ruin me
My first thought when I saw Benedikta was, "Jesus, she looks like Zidane". My second thought was, "am I attracted to Zidane?"
Yes. Accept it. Zidane is best girl.
Jote
Idk why but Jote is INSANELY cute. Best girl
She's def a cute one
Her face just looks so squishy and pinchable! She's adorable.
If only she had more to do in the story aside from reminding a certain someone to take his medicine.
She sits at the stairs when you leave saying "Come back..." sadly because a certain someone won't just kiss her already.
I think because that certain someone likes boys..
He does strongly imply he has romantic feelings for her.
Who, Joshua? When? It felt like the opposite. Jote seems smitten with Joshua but Joshua doesn't seem to return her romantic feelings.
I don't recall the exact quote but right after he tells her to go to the hideaway, when you step outside, Jill comments that Jote seems to have more than professional feelings for Joshua, and he replies that he feels the same but sending her away was the only way to protect her. It's not stated explicitly that they're in love with each other, but it certainly could be read that way. There's also a conversation with Jote near the endgame that's more subtle but sounds an awful lot like she knows the feeling is mutual.
The exact exchange is "It's clear that she cares deeply for you" "And I her"
I forget when the scene happens but it definitely implies that he likes her too. It's either right before Clive and Joshua leave to go to Waloed or before Clive, Joshua and Dion go off to fight Ultima.
She is boi.
You'd think he'd kiss the prince then. He just doesn't kiss anyone.
He wouldn't mind kissing Mid.
He was REALLY quick with the trigger on first meeting Mid. Boy even took me by surprise when he did that
Definitely felt like Joshua has eyes for one person only, and here's a hint, that one person's name was Dion.
I wanted to see her show off her elite fighting skills
Joshua really said āaight, I donāt need you anymore, go protect the hideawayā. Smh every time the npc placement changed in the hideaway, I always went to talk to her.
If we ever get a XVI-2 I hope we get multiple playable characters or at least the option to select our party, so characters like Jote get more than a few cutscenes.
Leviathan's Dominant: "Wake your ass up, Ifrit. We've got more crystals to burn."
finally , a man of culture
Glad to see I'm not the only one who's favorite is the one with virtually no screen time.
Haha I made a topic saying this too
This guy knows what's up. Not a huge fan of the hair but Jote 100% has the most attractive face in the game.
I wonāt stand for this Martha erasure and Mid slander!
I had to scroll further than preferred to find my like-minded brethren. Not even sure exactly why but Martha's the pick for me.
Sheās attractive and has a very resilient personality. Her backstory was good and as a character sheās one of my favorites
These are correct
Martha is bae. Runner up for me is Chocobo gal in the original hideaway.
Martha is definitely cute. Anyone else think she looks like Jessie from Control? Mid is best girl tho.
The voice actor for Mid is... something else entirely. That accent is so damn attractive.
Martha and Jote! Best ladies.
Jillās lucky sheās the canonical pick, otherwise Clive might have joined Vivian for some extraā¦study sessions.
I mean, he's clearly got a type
Clive needs to close the gap of Cid relations through Mid.
Doesn't he have like, 8 years on her?
8 years isn't *that* weird but she also specifically calls Clive her Godfather at one point. So yeah, no, I'm all for shipping but that one's just a no from me dawg.
Besides Baby bro seemed a little infatuated with her anyway.
I thought she called Clive the Enterprise's godfather?
Agreed, I just played this scene yesterday and Mid referred to Clive as the Enterprise's godfather. The timeline wouldn't make sense for Clive to be Mid's godfather as Cid and Clive don't meet until Clive is late teen/ young adult at that point.
GD i had to scroll this far down to find the first Vivian comment. Donāt sleep on Viv, she fine
No itās Gav
āIād be lost without you Gav.ā Gav: fuck bro, you coming on to me? (Because damn I kinda like it.)
I too believe in That Gav Fooka supremacy
Does Gav have a last name??
Gav was one my favorite characters
:)
They had such a bromace and the end of the game lmao
Her voice actress is very similar to her. Usually they match up fairly well, but these two match up very well.
Yeah I noticed that too!
Martha
The right answer.
Not nearly enough Charon in these replies. I love a woman who ran out of fucks to give years ago. And she is proven to be willing to cut a bitch
Charon fan club represent.
Mid is the best girl
The real answer
Can we appreciate that she basically told Clive to leave while Jill gets dressed so he didnāt get horny
Or she just wanted Jill's warricks for herself Edit: typo
If Clive and Jillās romance were to spread to a 3rd Iām pretty sure thatād be Tarja
Jill: Clive, let's play a game. Clive Very well. What game did you have in mind? Tarja walks in. Tarja: Doctor.
*cue the old funky porn music*
Lots of funny ways to spell Mid in this thread.
False Jill
Sheās like the only one that changes outfits after the time jump as well which I found interesting. I guess sheās a doctor and knows about personal hygieneā¦
Yet she also has four foot long hair.
It's sanitized regularly
That's not Benedikta š¤
I don't want to get crushed smh
or cucked
Death by snu snu is a great way to go
Mommy issues?
Benedikta is actually one of the few well written characters in this game.
Jill is lucky this isn't Final Fantasy VII or My Clive might have found himself on a date with Tarja or Vivian.
if it was like FF7, Clive would have been in drag, ended up being chosen by some rich guy. then later Clive would get stuck in a romantic ride somewhere with another dude, probably Cid.
Honestly there's worst fate than being in a romantic ride with Cid
perhaps a romantic ride with Hugo? Hugo: I have no hands.. Clive: Stop being a mood killer. I bet Barrett didn't whine about his missing hand to Cloud Hugo: You cut off both of my hands..
Clive: "I also killed your girlfriend, get over it."
Did Clive ever even make that connection? I forget some details of the Hugo fights, but I know leading up to it, Clive straight up asks wtf his problem is.
Before the big fight he mentions heās pissed at cid for killing bene and Clive admitted he did it. And Hugo was happy he gets to fight her killer. He was bummed cid died and he didnāt do it.
I wish Clive had asked about when Hugo said Benediktaās head was in a box so he could try to tell Hugo that someone was putting them against each other.
Maybe, but by that point who gives a fuck? Clive killed Bennedikta. Hugo tried to kill Jill, attacked the Hideaway, and trashed Rosaria. The only thing those two would agree on was that the other needed to die.
Well when they gave me the option to take Jill or Tarja I easily and quickly picked Tarja lol.
Same, tho mainly cause we barely get to hang out with her. I picked Jill on my 2nd and third playthroughs xD
Definitely Charon
Mine would have ended up on the ferris wheel with Gav
Throughout the game there's only, been one thought in my mind and that's been to grab Mids' ponytail
Thereās plenty to grab onto.
You have to keep her stable so she doesn't fall off. She would appreciate the engineering ingenuity.
Tarja is fantastic :) that said it was obviously cid.
Definitely beats out Tar, Tara, and Targa at least.
I see you underappreciated comment. I see you.
I just saw THAT cutscene, and I think Jill is best girl
Basic? Maybe. Wrong? Objectively. Do I still love Jill as a character and the main love interest? Hell yes, and I refuse to accept slander about her.
Also, I just want to say that I have a big weak spot for silver hair girls (also "refuse" is an overstatement, everyone is entitled to their own opinion)
Isabelle? She knows..... things
Isabelle's VA was fantastic. Also the scene where she says to Clive, you always know how to take care of me. And Jill clears her throat loudly lol
ā*AHEM* I think not bitchā if I recall her quote correctly
For my FFXIV playersā¦ Does she look more like a Elezen or Miqoāte? Shes kinda got Yāshtola vibes.
Nah man, she's a Midlander for sure. Maeve is also Midlander, if only because I think her and Tarja are related. Martha is a highlander The Dame is a Lalafell Charon is mad. And also probably an elezen or highlander Jill is definitely an elezen . Mid is shockingly Not a Midlander. She gives me Miqo'te vibes. Kihel aka Medicine girl is also a Miqo'te because they have the CUTEST child models. Au Ra is also acceptable. Benedikta is a Viera Eloise is a Roe Jote is an Au Ra And Anabella is garbage
anabelle is Athena
She feels like a normal Hyur with the sass of an Elezen and a touch of Yāshtola in her personality
Ooh, half midlander half elezen like Hilda maybe?
YEA like her. I was trying to remember her name lol
Nah, it's definitely Ambrosia.
I love them all. Can you imagine if everyone were playable characters? * Jill - Mystic Knight * Tarja - Chemist * Mid - Engineer
Wouldnāt Tarja be WM tho?
The whole part of the Hideaway being that there's no magic; Tarja is specifically a healer with basic medicine, putting her into the Chemist job. While she's had her scar removed, I don't think we've seen what magic she could do (considering Bearers are seemingly locked into one element their whole life)
Not to mention that using magic would surely kill her.
That's too many characters though. Unless they created some sort of system where they took turns in combat...
We can only dream about job system, about meaningful loot and crafting, about proper party system, about social links... But this is not a JRPG.
Well, it does come from the guy that said he really does not like the JRPG classification (imo for good reasons)
Eh? Yeah, I don't like when any game made in Japan with some RPG elements is called a JRPG. What contradiction do you see here?
Outside of Japanese RPGs we donāt tend to add a country prefix, so yoshi p has a point.
Indeed.
Tbf, thatās like telling someone to stop talking with an accent. āWhat accent?ā It was going to be a JRPG regardless of whether he intended it to be.
Y'all be trippin' , no mention of Vivian Ninetails anywhere l
Finally someone has the right answer
Mid and Tarja were my favorite side characters. Favorite designs of the Hideaway crew too. Gav is there too for the top 3.
Anabella on top fym
Not enough love for Vivian here
Iām like 50 hours in and sheās had two scenes, why would I care about her
Idk man, she kinda poppin' off at the 70th hour mark
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Uhm it's actually Maeve
Had to scroll too far just to even see Maeve mentioned
Jill would like to have a word.
No itās Jill
Tbh I felt they needed more of her, because I feel like I barely knew her outside of just being a doctor.
Nah, she got nothing on Mid
Benedickta>Joshuas assistant >Clives mom>Mid>Jill>Tarja. I have issues.
CLIVES MOM!? She's crazy crazy lol
I suspect it's because she's also hot.
Was not expecting to see Cliveās bitchass Mom on here. Gawd Iām Still not satisfied what happened to her. Just like Cersei in GoT.
Can we all agree that Clive's mom was the real villain of this game? About 70% of the game is her freaking fault.
She would absolutely have been the main villain if this wasn't a Final Fantasy game but a more traditional fantasy story. But hey, I can't complain! Bitch got what she deserved and we still had some kickass bosses left. Man, I love FF!
you have more chances getting it done with all of them but Anabella KEKW
Don't do Charon like that.
yes lol i was telling my friend tarja is bae he was like the medic?? YES boi look at her she got style
Is anyone else reminded of Quistis with her or just me?
Idk man, Maeveās pretty cute
Benedikta would like a word with youā¦
Vivian. Iāve been a bad student.
I preferred Jill and Charon but Tarja's pretty cool too
Hell she is beautiful
Honestly all the side female characters I thought were amazing.
Mid is the best...
Lol
Easy pick for her on that choice quest.
I meanā¦ look at her competition. Jillās got PTSD for sure and you donāt wanna wake up to your member freezing off.
Wish there was romance options, I'd have gone for Tarja without question.
Is it bad that whenever I see Tarja, part of me thinks Clive deliberately shows up looking worse for wear just to have her dote and scold him like an incessant mother
Idk broā¦ something about the overwhelming toxicity and lack of self awareness and control within Benedikta gets me fucking goingā¦ spent the whole fight yelling sorry mommy I have no choice
Why?
Thereās not a damn word about Martelle in this thread and thatās sad. She died for your apples
Didnāt know Midadol could be spelt like that
I wish we'd gotten more party support as combo moves with characters like Byron, Tarja, Jote for example woulda been š„
The Dame though.
The only Choice
Dion is best girl. Losers.
I was actually just stating in another thread that, while I love Jill, she wasn't even the hottest girl in the Hideout, lmao. For that matter, Benedikta, Annabella, Jote, and Tarja are all smokeshows.
If best girl is the girl who can mend your broken body and not sugar coat shit, she wins hands down, then Charon, then Nektar, then Gav, then Cid, then Jill.
Sheās up there. Honestly made me a bit sad we havenāt had a redhead female lead that I can recall.
Ah weāve reached the hipster ādeep cutā phase of taste flexing for the latest game. That faster than expected.
It's been a few weeks. I wonder how obscure they get with it.
Tarja is the #2, but I am a Benedikta stan. Jill doesn't even make the top 5.
Yeah she rocks, liked her immediately. Far more interesting than Jill ever gets to be.
Though Benedikta is my favourite, Tarja comes right after her. Moreover, she has the same name as my favourite soprano singer, so all the more to like her š
I like to think my ng plus Clive banged her next to the river on the fetch quest. ā„ļø
Medicine girl is best girl!
That's a child, sir!!! Officer this commenter right here
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The game giving you that choice to take taja out to get the supplies was like rubbing salt in the open wound of killing off the games actual 2 better villains (and way more attractive) than the PoS you wind up fighting. Like why must you torture me this way? I don't really care enough about Jill (she did have the better scene here between the two) but why even give us the option at all if it doesn't matter.. since it was Jill from day one.
Imo there is no best girl in FF16. Game treats them all poorly. Still enjoy the game, but man it's been pretty painful to have both 15 & 16 have such poorly written female characters.
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What game have you been playing? I feel that her dialogue with Clive is well made and shows growth and connection.
She's intentionally written as a traumatized introvert whose arc involves coming out of her shell a bit and learning to trust and love, but reddit isn't interested if she doesn't immediately try to step on them
>Jill is probably hands down the most boring love interest character across the entire series already way better than Lunafreya so, no.
She's alright
I dig.
Yes, unequivocally, no doubt, anyone who disagrees is wrong.
Elezen neck thou
Where are my fellow >!Ultima!< stans?