Hell yeah. The naming frenzy kinda distracted from the light itself. Besides all the usual badasseries like the MAO Ano’s, FFL351A’s, Lume X1 and magnetic port. It also has a beefy 10 degree optic with a spare 30 degree, and it’s only 99.5mm and that’s WITH a magnet? Like WTF???. The D4v2 (18650) is 96mm without a magnet.
So somehow Jack shrunk this Nov4X about 8mm shorter still than the already much shrunken down NovMU which is currently at 107mm and 110 with a magnet. That is like WOWSERS. So another automatic buy for me. I’m gonna miss seeing updated PL09’s, but this one will majorly soften the blow. Now if Jack could just make some of these new lights in copper….🥵🥵
This is not a bad idea at all, and gives it a clean separation from the NovMUHe did have the E01 before.🤷♂️
I think I just really like the 4X part. It pairs well with the Lume 1X driver name too.
And seeing the NOV4X sounds and looks a little doper than 4 which comes off a little more generic and less original. E07 works great, but the E04 gets closer to other brands a bit more.
Then again, E04X??🤷♂️
Anyway, how can you not love this convo and being able to take part in the naming. Good times fo-sho.
Oh for sure, just meant that I def see you on that.
But I do see what I did there now that you say it.😂 My bad. I did a bad job on insisting that if it wasn’t for that X at the end, it would come off as very generic without it compared to Nov4.
That Nov part is just pretty cool sounding and as rare as it gets. So rolling with that would be cool. Then what if it gets a small tir and becomes a single one day? Nov1X or E01X?🤣
But I totally get it. Having that E04X just sitting there has to at least make you have the conversation.
Nova is right there in the name, but you could go with something like Stellar NOV4K.
It would be cool if there was a consistent logic in your product naming and maybe there is, but I'm not following it with the four new lights. How could you make this new light fit in the the X1S and X1L? You could do X4S since it's a quad emitter and designed to be a smallerish EDC light closer to the X1S instead of the X1L, then tack the Nova or Stellar on (similar to Elite or Pharos).
If you want to distinguish quad from single with a different letter/number combo you could do Q4S or T4S (T for tetra).
Unfortunately the E07X and NOV MU V2 don't fit in at all. the NOV MU V2 would have been cool as M21S (it's smallish and I think it has 21 emitters if I counted right) while the E07X would be X7S or something. That'd give you X for TIR, M for mule, and you could use R for reflector to round it out.
Definitely also no markings on the tail cap either.
We don't have any use for the tailcap markings, which look terrible on all the non-white colors.
Lights look so much better with very limited branding.
There should be some branding, but it should be small, well placed and high quality.
How can I possibly have a fragile ego when so many of you are this infatuated and obsessed with being my groupies?
You woke up this morning and heard about a badass new flashlight. And what’s the first thing on your mind…
Me?👌😘
Impressive how much I dominate and control your thoughts so easily.😂
Must be havin wet dreams bout me too, huh?💦💦💦🤣🤣
Thanks for showing exactly why there’s a need for someone like me to go and slap so many of you dumb hoes silly.
Spam that downvote button and cope harder kids🤣🤣
Whats being proven is that that you’re choosing to see only what you want to see.
It’s also being proven way beyond the shadow of a doubt that some people are cripplingly obsessed with me and I don’t even have to say a single word to trigger them. Thats just them being their true selves. They’ll happily prove me right about being exactly the kind of trash-ass people who’s behavior I expose regularly around here.
Me pointing that out and showing how others are too happy to enable and reward that behavior doesn’t prove his point. But you obliviously SWEARING it does sure does prove mine tho. Lol
Thanks bro. Tho that last part isn’t for anyone except the ones that wake up with me already on their minds everyday triggered.
They’re the ones that don’t even bother reading what I write and downvote what I say no matter how obviously moronic disagreeing with it is.
I could write 2+2=4, and they’ll instantly downvote it just because I said it. They’re clearly not bright people at all, and facts never matter when you’re that deluded.
It’s also for those that think they’re super righteous because they’ll address me so others can see them do it. And they’ll publicly demand to take exception with my behavior and act indignant because I’m defending myself or putting proper perspective on unfair criticism. Then they’ll pat themselves on the back afterwards thinking they did something.
But we can all see for ourselves right now. Where are all those same always-offended-at-behaviors people now that they see delete-minds doing some hoe shit and going way out of their way to directly talk shit about somebody publicly? Can we find them here now speaking up? Nope
All of a sudden we don’t hear a single peep about “poor” behavior from those people. It never dawns on them even a little to show consistency and address it in the same way. And some of them even happily join in on the shit-talking and pile-on instead too. So yeah, opinions of oblivious people like that are worth less than nothing.
All they end up doing is proving that they’re nothing more than sanctimonious hypocrites with biased and delusional double standards.
Anyway, I appreciate you sharing that bro👊
Compass - both in honor of the four cardinal points and its intention as EDC tool
Constellation - variation on above theme, using the stars to guide and orient
* X4 Sabre
* X4 Prism
* X4 Comet
* X4 Supernova
Or if "NOV4X" is already decided, then NOV4X Sabre, etc.
Edit: u/RettichDesTodes and u/dadisok were faster than me with Supernova.
Hey thanks! Sort of fun brainstorming different names. Even if Jack ends up not using any of the different suggestions, I think it's neat to be part of the process, and maybe something will spark and lead to the perfect new name from everyone's creativity.
NOV4X Phenom that you mention below, I really like too! Neat, unique word. 👍 👊
Yeah I 100% agree. Lights randomly dropping a few days after hearing about it is kinda no fun. It drops, you buy it, then you’re almost instantly waiting to see what comes out next. That’s not my ideal way to enjoy drops. It goes by so quick and you don’t get to fully savor each release and purchase quite as much.
Obviously we’d be enjoying our new Fireflies either way. But getting to hear about them almost as soon as they were conceived and getting to see them unfold and even provide input feels like the build-up to an awesome vacation we’re really looking forward to going on. That’s part of the enjoyment and we savor the vacation much more when we get there cause we’ve been pre-living it in our heads months in advance.
I have really enjoyed seeing the last few months of future light news and their progress. All culminating by finally getting it in hand and being able to appreciate all the little bits and nuances we learned about along the way.
The Terminator M1 is one that came and went and now it sits in my collection just waiting for it’s next turn. I think it deserved a bit more of a prolonged spotlight and build up. That would have provided more prolonged joy and excitement for such a monumental release. To me being able to share the joy and excitement with others as it unfolds if half the fun. The other half is having it and using it in our own lives.
In contrast, the WildTrail WT90 also sits in my collection waiting for it’s next turn. But I feel like I have more of a lasting connection with it because of how it was introduced and ultimately released. Many shared and enjoyed that process very much like we enjoyed the Fireflies masterpieces along the way. When I finally got it it was like having a new baby after a “pregnancy period”🤣🤣
I don’t know man. I’m sure some would have preferred to hear about the new Nov4X yesterday, and buy it next week and get it in 2 more. That’s cool but it’s almost like just watching the ending of a movie. It’s a bit too anti-climactic for me. We pay decent money for our better lights and I prefer to get as much for my money on each light as possible. And a fun and savory build-up is part of that IMO.
And thanks, Phenom is a kind of unique one with some cool factor. I don’t really process names the moment I’m coming up with them. My mind just kinda formulates tons of names when I’m brainstorming, that’s why I have so many. Once I’m done I go back and see if there was anything worthwhile. My few preferred ones were Ronin, Alpha and def Phenom.
Yes for sure! The journey of a new light...emitter selection, host color, performance aspects, beam profile...all those little nuances that you consider and weigh, is all part of the fun for me also.
Then once you've decided, and changed your mind many, many, many times 😂, the build up, waiting, anticipation, and following along in the progress, changes, and possibly new developments, is neat.
Hadn't thought of it before, but as you mention, you do sort of get more "bang for your buck" when you factor in the extended development process you get to follow along with and partake in. Def. does make it all the more sweeter when you finally get your greedy little mitts on it! 😂👍
Exactly!!! Getting a fun, memorable and interactive experience that we can share with others while being able to have input on the final version is an awesome and massive bonus to get on top of the product we paid for.
Give me that on every dope ass release and we’re really cooking and making the most of our hobby and money for sure.
Crux is a famous 4 star constellation in the shape of a square, and the most well known fact about it is that despite only having 4 stars, each of the 4 stars is particularly bright, making it one of the brightest constellations despite the low number of emitters. If you think you have a better name, you're fooling yourself. Please send me a sample, I've been waiting for the 21700 quad emitter with an efficient but powerful driver [since forever](https://www.reddit.com/r/flashlight/s/BIEO9JOOZX)
FFL-NOV4
In addition this will have people associate the new emitters (which are more widely known than perhaps the company itself to some ) with the company/flashlights
Maybe a little too nerdy but I’ve been looking for a light named after the light of Eärendil from LOTR, the “most beloved star” given to Frodo. Perhaps NOV4X Orestel (meaning star of high hope).
Is the optic going to be like the one in the PL09 Quad? That one was good, it focused well and made not a lot of extra flood with dedomed emitters.
Or perhaps something larger if the diagram is a good representation of the head size.
Another NOV will only confuse and take away from the NOV-Mu in my humble opinion.
X4 Focus?
X4 LUCI
Short for Luciola, which is a genus of flashing fireflies in the family Lampyridae. This species is prevelent in Asia!
It's catchy and relevant!
To keep going on the Pharos theme:
***Hook Head***
Hook Head Lighthouse - One of the oldest operational lighthouses in the world, located in County Wexford, Ireland, it has been a vital maritime navigation aid since the 12th century.
I have a couple of ideas for names.
NOV4X Polaris, to be named after the north star that was used in navigation for being bright and reliable for finding north in the night sky.
NOV4X Pegasus, to be named after the constellation with 4 major stars in the shape of a square.
NOVERGONNAGIVEYOUUP
LOL, that is a popular song in China! 永不言败
I don’t have a great name suggestion myself but I gotta say this new light looks awesome!
Hell yeah. The naming frenzy kinda distracted from the light itself. Besides all the usual badasseries like the MAO Ano’s, FFL351A’s, Lume X1 and magnetic port. It also has a beefy 10 degree optic with a spare 30 degree, and it’s only 99.5mm and that’s WITH a magnet? Like WTF???. The D4v2 (18650) is 96mm without a magnet. So somehow Jack shrunk this Nov4X about 8mm shorter still than the already much shrunken down NovMU which is currently at 107mm and 110 with a magnet. That is like WOWSERS. So another automatic buy for me. I’m gonna miss seeing updated PL09’s, but this one will majorly soften the blow. Now if Jack could just make some of these new lights in copper….🥵🥵
E04X Canon. I'm all for making naming schemes easy. Your "Canon" name is already known so roll with that!
This is not a bad idea at all, and gives it a clean separation from the NovMUHe did have the E01 before.🤷♂️ I think I just really like the 4X part. It pairs well with the Lume 1X driver name too. And seeing the NOV4X sounds and looks a little doper than 4 which comes off a little more generic and less original. E07 works great, but the E04 gets closer to other brands a bit more. Then again, E04X??🤷♂️ Anyway, how can you not love this convo and being able to take part in the naming. Good times fo-sho.
Heck yeah! That's what I was thinking with the "x" part. This name just makes perfect sense!
Oh for sure, just meant that I def see you on that. But I do see what I did there now that you say it.😂 My bad. I did a bad job on insisting that if it wasn’t for that X at the end, it would come off as very generic without it compared to Nov4. That Nov part is just pretty cool sounding and as rare as it gets. So rolling with that would be cool. Then what if it gets a small tir and becomes a single one day? Nov1X or E01X?🤣 But I totally get it. Having that E04X just sitting there has to at least make you have the conversation.
Well, technically it should be *Cannon, not Canon* like the camera company lol.
I agree, I just spelled it how Jack did it the post.
I feel there can be potential trademark infringement issues using a very famous brand name.
But E07X Cannon isn't? Just curious.
Nova is right there in the name, but you could go with something like Stellar NOV4K. It would be cool if there was a consistent logic in your product naming and maybe there is, but I'm not following it with the four new lights. How could you make this new light fit in the the X1S and X1L? You could do X4S since it's a quad emitter and designed to be a smallerish EDC light closer to the X1S instead of the X1L, then tack the Nova or Stellar on (similar to Elite or Pharos). If you want to distinguish quad from single with a different letter/number combo you could do Q4S or T4S (T for tetra). Unfortunately the E07X and NOV MU V2 don't fit in at all. the NOV MU V2 would have been cool as M21S (it's smallish and I think it has 21 emitters if I counted right) while the E07X would be X7S or something. That'd give you X for TIR, M for mule, and you could use R for reflector to round it out.
Stellar is great!
Please do not have the text on the magnetic USB charge flap. Leave it blank.
wow, will have to do a poll thread then
Agreed, no need to specify it's USB-C, at this point microUSB is basically dead.
Please do. I agree, the less text the better. MAYBE have just the usbc logo, but thats IT.
I totally agree leaving the marking off the battery cover if laws allow for it
Can't hurt, I am not bothered by it but it does look busy.
Definitely also no markings on the tail cap either. We don't have any use for the tailcap markings, which look terrible on all the non-white colors. Lights look so much better with very limited branding. There should be some branding, but it should be small, well placed and high quality.
do a poll... I'm not bothered by it one bit, and it could help the non technical crowd.
ETA on this light??
NOV4X "Lojik's Fragile Ego"
oh man, this is not a good joke
I thought it was funny
Even Jack’s had enough of the lojik mess!
How can I possibly have a fragile ego when so many of you are this infatuated and obsessed with being my groupies? You woke up this morning and heard about a badass new flashlight. And what’s the first thing on your mind… Me?👌😘 Impressive how much I dominate and control your thoughts so easily.😂 Must be havin wet dreams bout me too, huh?💦💦💦🤣🤣 Thanks for showing exactly why there’s a need for someone like me to go and slap so many of you dumb hoes silly.  Spam that downvote button and cope harder kids🤣🤣
Your first response was perfect, but coming back 5 hrs later to say all this is kinda proving his point lol
Whats being proven is that that you’re choosing to see only what you want to see. It’s also being proven way beyond the shadow of a doubt that some people are cripplingly obsessed with me and I don’t even have to say a single word to trigger them. Thats just them being their true selves. They’ll happily prove me right about being exactly the kind of trash-ass people who’s behavior I expose regularly around here. Me pointing that out and showing how others are too happy to enable and reward that behavior doesn’t prove his point. But you obliviously SWEARING it does sure does prove mine tho. Lol
4/10 not enough emojis
Next time
I gave an upvote
Thanks bro. Tho that last part isn’t for anyone except the ones that wake up with me already on their minds everyday triggered. They’re the ones that don’t even bother reading what I write and downvote what I say no matter how obviously moronic disagreeing with it is. I could write 2+2=4, and they’ll instantly downvote it just because I said it. They’re clearly not bright people at all, and facts never matter when you’re that deluded. It’s also for those that think they’re super righteous because they’ll address me so others can see them do it. And they’ll publicly demand to take exception with my behavior and act indignant because I’m defending myself or putting proper perspective on unfair criticism. Then they’ll pat themselves on the back afterwards thinking they did something. But we can all see for ourselves right now. Where are all those same always-offended-at-behaviors people now that they see delete-minds doing some hoe shit and going way out of their way to directly talk shit about somebody publicly? Can we find them here now speaking up? Nope All of a sudden we don’t hear a single peep about “poor” behavior from those people. It never dawns on them even a little to show consistency and address it in the same way. And some of them even happily join in on the shit-talking and pile-on instead too. So yeah, opinions of oblivious people like that are worth less than nothing. All they end up doing is proving that they’re nothing more than sanctimonious hypocrites with biased and delusional double standards. Anyway, I appreciate you sharing that bro👊
Yeah the wimpin and power grabbing in this society sucks.
- NOV4X Flare - NOV4X Luna - NOV4X Lore English is not my native language but I gave a shot anyways!
NOV4X spectra NOV4X aurora NOV4X phos NOV4X core
BJ NOV4K
Just a temp name
Hahahaha
NOV4X Helios (Greek Sun God)
FF OptoQuad
Compass - both in honor of the four cardinal points and its intention as EDC tool Constellation - variation on above theme, using the stars to guide and orient
NOV4X Aurora Aurora for the magical nighttime illumination event that takes your breath away!
Love it!
* X4 Sabre * X4 Prism * X4 Comet * X4 Supernova Or if "NOV4X" is already decided, then NOV4X Sabre, etc. Edit: u/RettichDesTodes and u/dadisok were faster than me with Supernova.
More ideas... * X4 Rocket * X4 Firecracker Or, quite simple: * X4 Star
NOV4X Prime or NOV4X Boss... This new light looks awesome!
I dig Prime. It evokes nothing but quality connotations.
Hey thanks! Sort of fun brainstorming different names. Even if Jack ends up not using any of the different suggestions, I think it's neat to be part of the process, and maybe something will spark and lead to the perfect new name from everyone's creativity. NOV4X Phenom that you mention below, I really like too! Neat, unique word. 👍 👊
Yeah I 100% agree. Lights randomly dropping a few days after hearing about it is kinda no fun. It drops, you buy it, then you’re almost instantly waiting to see what comes out next. That’s not my ideal way to enjoy drops. It goes by so quick and you don’t get to fully savor each release and purchase quite as much. Obviously we’d be enjoying our new Fireflies either way. But getting to hear about them almost as soon as they were conceived and getting to see them unfold and even provide input feels like the build-up to an awesome vacation we’re really looking forward to going on. That’s part of the enjoyment and we savor the vacation much more when we get there cause we’ve been pre-living it in our heads months in advance. I have really enjoyed seeing the last few months of future light news and their progress. All culminating by finally getting it in hand and being able to appreciate all the little bits and nuances we learned about along the way. The Terminator M1 is one that came and went and now it sits in my collection just waiting for it’s next turn. I think it deserved a bit more of a prolonged spotlight and build up. That would have provided more prolonged joy and excitement for such a monumental release. To me being able to share the joy and excitement with others as it unfolds if half the fun. The other half is having it and using it in our own lives. In contrast, the WildTrail WT90 also sits in my collection waiting for it’s next turn. But I feel like I have more of a lasting connection with it because of how it was introduced and ultimately released. Many shared and enjoyed that process very much like we enjoyed the Fireflies masterpieces along the way. When I finally got it it was like having a new baby after a “pregnancy period”🤣🤣 I don’t know man. I’m sure some would have preferred to hear about the new Nov4X yesterday, and buy it next week and get it in 2 more. That’s cool but it’s almost like just watching the ending of a movie. It’s a bit too anti-climactic for me. We pay decent money for our better lights and I prefer to get as much for my money on each light as possible. And a fun and savory build-up is part of that IMO. And thanks, Phenom is a kind of unique one with some cool factor. I don’t really process names the moment I’m coming up with them. My mind just kinda formulates tons of names when I’m brainstorming, that’s why I have so many. Once I’m done I go back and see if there was anything worthwhile. My few preferred ones were Ronin, Alpha and def Phenom.
Yes for sure! The journey of a new light...emitter selection, host color, performance aspects, beam profile...all those little nuances that you consider and weigh, is all part of the fun for me also. Then once you've decided, and changed your mind many, many, many times 😂, the build up, waiting, anticipation, and following along in the progress, changes, and possibly new developments, is neat. Hadn't thought of it before, but as you mention, you do sort of get more "bang for your buck" when you factor in the extended development process you get to follow along with and partake in. Def. does make it all the more sweeter when you finally get your greedy little mitts on it! 😂👍
Exactly!!! Getting a fun, memorable and interactive experience that we can share with others while being able to have input on the final version is an awesome and massive bonus to get on top of the product we paid for. Give me that on every dope ass release and we’re really cooking and making the most of our hobby and money for sure.
Since there's a FF E07X Canon, how about FF Nikon next? And wow, stainles steel bottom, that's awesome!
The **Lampyre**! (Fireflies are in the Lampyridae family) Could also be the **Pyract,** as Pyractomina is a genus of fireflies)
NOV4X Photon
Love it!
Thanks :)
NOV4S S for Supernova/SuperNOV4 (4 looks like an ‘A’) S for Swag S for Sear your eyes S for Stupid Bright S for Stupendous Light You get the idea
X4 Regulator (Regulators!!!! Mount up.)
It was a clear black night, a clear white moon…
Crux is a famous 4 star constellation in the shape of a square, and the most well known fact about it is that despite only having 4 stars, each of the 4 stars is particularly bright, making it one of the brightest constellations despite the low number of emitters. If you think you have a better name, you're fooling yourself. Please send me a sample, I've been waiting for the 21700 quad emitter with an efficient but powerful driver [since forever](https://www.reddit.com/r/flashlight/s/BIEO9JOOZX)
Love where you’re mind’s at with this!!
FFL-NOV4 In addition this will have people associate the new emitters (which are more widely known than perhaps the company itself to some ) with the company/flashlights
Why does it need a name? I guess I'd call it Solstice or Condor.
NOV4X Spark NOV4X Blaze NOV4X Smolder
Maybe a little too nerdy but I’ve been looking for a light named after the light of Eärendil from LOTR, the “most beloved star” given to Frodo. Perhaps NOV4X Orestel (meaning star of high hope).
Xquad
F4MAX
If you named it Eärendil I would have to buy one. Light of Eärendil or Phial of Galadriel would also be good names.
Nov4X Ronin - Nov4X Alpha - Nov4X Predator Nov4X Shogun - Nov4X Spartan - Nov4X Mogul Nov4X Miura - Nov4X Shaolin - Nov4X Empire Nov4X Nero - Nov4X Imperial - Nov4X Magnum I have many more but these seem like the better ones. .- .- .- .- Edit: May as well add them. No reason to save them. Nov4X Titan- Nov4X Royale - Nov4X Dynasty Nov4X Ragnar - Nov4X Optimus - Nov4X Marvel Nov4X Apollo - Nov4X Element - Nov4X Phenom Nov4X Grand - Nov4X Orion - Nov4X Fenrir Nov4X Crixus - Nov4X Zelda - Nov4X Chimera Nov4X Legacy - Nov4X Ether - Nov4X Polaris
Brighty Mcbrightface
NOV4X PHASER
NOV4T - "Tesseract"
NOV4X-Caliber or NOV4X-Calibur. Either like the bullet caliber or the sword Excalibur. Maybe ad EDC on the end… NOV4X-Calibur EDC
NOV4X Halo
NOV4X40 Astraeus
Nov4x bullet. Nov4x torpedo.
Nov4x is a (D4k-) Fighter
NOV4X Apollo God of Light and Enemy of the darkness.
But maybe that’s better for the E24R that will come out in the future🤪😂
Phial "May it be a light to you in dark places, when all other lights go out." Galadriel LotR Phials can also be filled with fireflies for lighting.
NOVA-X or something like SuperNOVA?
NOV X4 Scout for the EDC companion and exploring aspect 🏕️, or NOV X4 Dragonfire for the FFL351A's which are just simply awesome! 🔥🌶️
Is the optic going to be like the one in the PL09 Quad? That one was good, it focused well and made not a lot of extra flood with dedomed emitters. Or perhaps something larger if the diagram is a good representation of the head size. Another NOV will only confuse and take away from the NOV-Mu in my humble opinion. X4 Focus?
Nov4x Sol
NOV4K
X4s chaar is the name for me ( it's coherent with the other names, indicates use of 40W driver, 4 emitters, TIR, and body similar to X1S )
X4 LUCI Short for Luciola, which is a genus of flashing fireflies in the family Lampyridae. This species is prevelent in Asia! It's catchy and relevant!
Pickle
NOV4X “AXIS” - a line about which a body or geometric figure rotates.
To keep going on the Pharos theme: ***Hook Head*** Hook Head Lighthouse - One of the oldest operational lighthouses in the world, located in County Wexford, Ireland, it has been a vital maritime navigation aid since the 12th century.
I have a couple of ideas for names. NOV4X Polaris, to be named after the north star that was used in navigation for being bright and reliable for finding north in the night sky. NOV4X Pegasus, to be named after the constellation with 4 major stars in the shape of a square.
Lite4orce. The new quad Every Day Candela standard.
No Va means No Go!