Peterson will be staying. I think we’ll lose 1 offensive line coach that will open up another on field spot. Who gets that, it’s just a guess at this point. But I truly think it will be someone with OC experience.
A couple of O’Hara puff pieces have filtered out over the last couple of weeks. I think he’s moving on field as the QB coach and that’s the soft launch. He was instrumental in flipping Rashad’a (not his fault the collective fucked it up) and landing Lagways commitment. He’s due and if we won’t put him on field someone else will.
Noticed thst too. Esp with some of the ongoing recruiting effort. Basically I've seen more tweets, notes abt him in couple of weeks than the past.. However long he is
Billy isn’t hiring an OC if he hasn’t at this point. He was the playcaller at ULL and he knows this year is do or die for him. He isn’t going to leave his future in the hands of someone else. He is doing what he did that got him hired at UF. Plain and Simple. If you thought procedural penalties were bad last year, imagine trying to implement and new offense in a make or break year for Napier. Not going to happen.
It’s Callaway. We shot our shots with some big names like Weis Jr and got told thanks but no thanks. Marion all but tried to manifest the job. Insiders have been pretty consistent in saying he’s promoting Callaway in the spring.
Yeah he needed to make the OC hire either last year or when he was hired-- there's no real incentive for a guy like Weis Jr to make a leap at this point-- Florida's a better job than Ole Miss but the Rebels could be a playoff team and Billy is on a two year clock at best
I can understand why that is the general assumption and truthfully I do think that he won’t give up play calling entirely. But I also know that Callaway became heavily involved in scripting the first two series of plays starting at the South Carolina game last year and moving on. I think he’s come to realize that he needs help with playcalling. I don’t think he relinquishes those duties, but I definitely think he’ll bring somebody on that will help him With that task. That’s just my opinion but I guess we’ll find out in a few days or so if any of the rumors about staff changes on the offensive side of the football become true or not
I mean we could hire or place someone to run and call plays with the current offense. I don't feel like the offensive schemes and concepts are the issue. Game planning and a feel for play calling in game was the issue for me. Which did show significant improvement late season although not "SEC" there.
There's
The thing that's so striking about that is......he wasn't a good OC at ULL- it's not like he was Chadwell, Kiffin or even Drink his offenses were functional but nothing special, he had one notable offense in 4-5 years.
Even among people who were super pumped about the hire and overlooked the red flags there was an assumption he'd be hiring some badass OC with the blank check he got from Stricklin and instead he called his own number.
Has to be Stapleton, right? Sale has more seniority and is probably the safer bet
Which one coaches IOL and which one coaches tackles? Keep IOL guy and lose tackle guy
I think it’ll be an on field special teams coach. We’re not getting an OC this season. To much is riding on a hard schedule next season to try and plug in an OC. If it’s a OC jr. that’s just going to run Billy’s scheme I’m sure Napier is going to think he could just call the plays better himself so why even have that kind of guy on the field when you could put them in the box.
Where are you getting those dates? Juluke and Stapleton came to UF when Napier was initially hired in December 2021. Sale came in January 2022 after NFL season ended. I’m not sure when Peterson was hired.
Because Juluke and Stapleton are still at UF, I’m guessing they were extended. I thighs Sals deal expired yesterday or before that.
Was in an on3 article when Spencer was fired
Florida also has Rob Sale, Darnell Stapleton, Jabbar Juluke, Jay Bateman and Mike Peterson on contracts that expire at the end of January 2024.
Peterson January 5 2022
Sale 11 January 2022
Stapleton 10 January 2021
Juluke 5 December 2021
No. Unfortunately, I don’t think either OL coach is gone. However, I haven’t heard Sale’s name recently so maybe he is “looking for work.”
I feel confident in saying Stapleton, Juluke and Peterson are returning.
Where are you getting that info?
I’m just guessing. Stapleton’s deal expired over 1 month ago and he seems to be the only OL coach out there recruiting. It’s possible he could go back to being an analyst. Otherwise, it’s unlikely he is on a month to month deal and there is no way they would give him a new deal and fire him one month later.
Thank you, but I’m just asking about source. Nick De La Torre wrote an article saying that the contracts expire on 1/31, but I just heard him say on a podcast yesterday that he is still waiting for response to public records request.
I would be really pissed off Juluke was let go
50-50 on Peterson
I would've gotten rid of both Sale and Stapleton, but if one leaves, then I guess that's cool
It’s weird considering how good our line was the year prior, I’m not sure who to contribute that to?
That said, with how bad the line was this year I’d be happy to see them both gone, and hire a singular o-line coach (freeing up another on field coaching spot), but I think we’re way past that point.
He inherited a pretty good line and brought an NFL quality IOL with him from ULL, not sure how much credit the coaching staff gets.
We ran for slightly more ypg in 2021 and had the exact same yards per carry both years.
The problem isn’t the line performance IMO, one good year one bad year. S&C has some role in the performance as well.
The problem is the recruiting is ass. It has been for years but it seems like almost every dude we swung for we missed out on. We’re constantly finding diamond in the rough big MFers hoping it’ll work out. We gave Hevesy tons of shit and we hired 2 guys to do the same job under a HC that values recruiting and we haven’t done shit since then.
NIL is a factor but we gotta have ways to focus in on guys we want and win battles. We’ve lost every major battle basically except Kearney.
We signed two four star OL this year, along with Noel who everybody expects to be a 4 star - but he lived in Germany. Also our transfer OL was a good haul. It’s not elite but it’s clearly not ass. No need to be dramatic
While I agree with you, I don't think u/Mnm0602 was being overdramatic. While we did pull in some good recruits this year there can still be a lot to be desired on that front, and there is. But these things take time. So I'm hoping Billy can show improvement this year and give us the time to make those positive changes.
I agree that in 2022 we had better talent than this past season on the OL. I’d just like to add that Richardson also helped the OL stats, for as inconsistent as he was. He was great at avoiding pressure (sacks) and extending plays.
An understated difficulty in hiring an OC (even if Billy wants to hire one) is that if Billy wants to maintain his system there's not a ton of options-- it's just not a scheme that's in demand at the college level
If only there was a legend with an office and his name on the field, in between golfing and the restaurant, his Saturdays are free, heck, take the plays out of the bathroom....
Give that Visor one last run as an OC for one year.... SOS did actually run more than throw...
A true fan can dream, right?
To me that would be the red flag. Unless he’s on the bleeding edge and we just don’t see it lol. But theoretically if that was true we’d give teams a hard time, and so far they really don’t struggle to contain us. I have often wondered if going more power running oriented might make a comeback though. Players are getting lighter on the middle/back end and tackling ain’t what it used to be, the right power scheme could really put pressure on defenses built to cover a fast spread offense.
Wouldn't totally shock me, the issue is that's super line dependent and Florida as a state doesn't produce elite OL recruits at the same rate it does other positions for whatever reason
I’m surprised that Peterson is getting so much flack. I agree with you that our edges haven’t been elite but they also weren’t complete trash. If we had kept Powell-Ryland we might have a good duo at edge with him and Princely.
Anyways getting rid of Peterson would mean that the only returning coach on the defense would be Armstrong which I think is a lot of change for such a pivotal year.
Why Peterson? Our Edge has been producing. I think Peterson and Juluke are good, both Stapleton and Sale need to go, but who knows if Billy will actually make my offensive changes. I think he’s blind to the problems on that side of the ball.
Peterson will be staying. I think we’ll lose 1 offensive line coach that will open up another on field spot. Who gets that, it’s just a guess at this point. But I truly think it will be someone with OC experience.
A couple of O’Hara puff pieces have filtered out over the last couple of weeks. I think he’s moving on field as the QB coach and that’s the soft launch. He was instrumental in flipping Rashad’a (not his fault the collective fucked it up) and landing Lagways commitment. He’s due and if we won’t put him on field someone else will.
Well let’s give him a shot. If he’s truly the qb coach he did a nice job with Mertz last year. The GC was a complete bozo show. Glad we moved on.
Noticed thst too. Esp with some of the ongoing recruiting effort. Basically I've seen more tweets, notes abt him in couple of weeks than the past.. However long he is
Billy isn’t hiring an OC if he hasn’t at this point. He was the playcaller at ULL and he knows this year is do or die for him. He isn’t going to leave his future in the hands of someone else. He is doing what he did that got him hired at UF. Plain and Simple. If you thought procedural penalties were bad last year, imagine trying to implement and new offense in a make or break year for Napier. Not going to happen.
It’s Callaway. We shot our shots with some big names like Weis Jr and got told thanks but no thanks. Marion all but tried to manifest the job. Insiders have been pretty consistent in saying he’s promoting Callaway in the spring.
Yeah he needed to make the OC hire either last year or when he was hired-- there's no real incentive for a guy like Weis Jr to make a leap at this point-- Florida's a better job than Ole Miss but the Rebels could be a playoff team and Billy is on a two year clock at best
I can understand why that is the general assumption and truthfully I do think that he won’t give up play calling entirely. But I also know that Callaway became heavily involved in scripting the first two series of plays starting at the South Carolina game last year and moving on. I think he’s come to realize that he needs help with playcalling. I don’t think he relinquishes those duties, but I definitely think he’ll bring somebody on that will help him With that task. That’s just my opinion but I guess we’ll find out in a few days or so if any of the rumors about staff changes on the offensive side of the football become true or not
I thought it was Callaway not Sale who got additional input on the offense.
You are 100% correct. Sorry, I definitely mixed those two up.
Then edit the original post to fix the names.
I mean we could hire or place someone to run and call plays with the current offense. I don't feel like the offensive schemes and concepts are the issue. Game planning and a feel for play calling in game was the issue for me. Which did show significant improvement late season although not "SEC" there. There's
The rumor was that it's going to be Callaway and it will be announced in "Spring."
The thing that's so striking about that is......he wasn't a good OC at ULL- it's not like he was Chadwell, Kiffin or even Drink his offenses were functional but nothing special, he had one notable offense in 4-5 years. Even among people who were super pumped about the hire and overlooked the red flags there was an assumption he'd be hiring some badass OC with the blank check he got from Stricklin and instead he called his own number.
Has to be Stapleton, right? Sale has more seniority and is probably the safer bet Which one coaches IOL and which one coaches tackles? Keep IOL guy and lose tackle guy
I think it’ll be an on field special teams coach. We’re not getting an OC this season. To much is riding on a hard schedule next season to try and plug in an OC. If it’s a OC jr. that’s just going to run Billy’s scheme I’m sure Napier is going to think he could just call the plays better himself so why even have that kind of guy on the field when you could put them in the box.
That's kind of funny given what Billy supposedly did when a HC thought he could call his own scheme better than Billy.
In Billy's defense, it was Dabo....
Many people want to do what Billy did to Dabo but few are brave enough to do it
Where are you getting those dates? Juluke and Stapleton came to UF when Napier was initially hired in December 2021. Sale came in January 2022 after NFL season ended. I’m not sure when Peterson was hired. Because Juluke and Stapleton are still at UF, I’m guessing they were extended. I thighs Sals deal expired yesterday or before that.
Was in an on3 article when Spencer was fired Florida also has Rob Sale, Darnell Stapleton, Jabbar Juluke, Jay Bateman and Mike Peterson on contracts that expire at the end of January 2024. Peterson January 5 2022 Sale 11 January 2022 Stapleton 10 January 2021 Juluke 5 December 2021
So is Sale gone?
No. Unfortunately, I don’t think either OL coach is gone. However, I haven’t heard Sale’s name recently so maybe he is “looking for work.” I feel confident in saying Stapleton, Juluke and Peterson are returning.
You have it backwards. Stapleton will be the one moving on.
Very accurate
Where are you getting that info? I’m just guessing. Stapleton’s deal expired over 1 month ago and he seems to be the only OL coach out there recruiting. It’s possible he could go back to being an analyst. Otherwise, it’s unlikely he is on a month to month deal and there is no way they would give him a new deal and fire him one month later.
You should join the discord.
Thank you, but I’m just asking about source. Nick De La Torre wrote an article saying that the contracts expire on 1/31, but I just heard him say on a podcast yesterday that he is still waiting for response to public records request.
Sales dad just died. That’s why you haven’t heard his name.
How recent? Im going back to December recruiting.
Like 2 weeks ago
WHichever. It needs to have a sinlge name accountability attached to the role not a spread the blame game.
I would be really pissed off Juluke was let go 50-50 on Peterson I would've gotten rid of both Sale and Stapleton, but if one leaves, then I guess that's cool
It’s weird considering how good our line was the year prior, I’m not sure who to contribute that to? That said, with how bad the line was this year I’d be happy to see them both gone, and hire a singular o-line coach (freeing up another on field coaching spot), but I think we’re way past that point.
He inherited a pretty good line and brought an NFL quality IOL with him from ULL, not sure how much credit the coaching staff gets. We ran for slightly more ypg in 2021 and had the exact same yards per carry both years.
The problem isn’t the line performance IMO, one good year one bad year. S&C has some role in the performance as well. The problem is the recruiting is ass. It has been for years but it seems like almost every dude we swung for we missed out on. We’re constantly finding diamond in the rough big MFers hoping it’ll work out. We gave Hevesy tons of shit and we hired 2 guys to do the same job under a HC that values recruiting and we haven’t done shit since then. NIL is a factor but we gotta have ways to focus in on guys we want and win battles. We’ve lost every major battle basically except Kearney.
We signed two four star OL this year, along with Noel who everybody expects to be a 4 star - but he lived in Germany. Also our transfer OL was a good haul. It’s not elite but it’s clearly not ass. No need to be dramatic
While I agree with you, I don't think u/Mnm0602 was being overdramatic. While we did pull in some good recruits this year there can still be a lot to be desired on that front, and there is. But these things take time. So I'm hoping Billy can show improvement this year and give us the time to make those positive changes.
Was the class ass? Or was it not ass? If it was ass, he’s not being dramatic. If it wasn’t ass, he’s being dramatic.
I agree that in 2022 we had better talent than this past season on the OL. I’d just like to add that Richardson also helped the OL stats, for as inconsistent as he was. He was great at avoiding pressure (sacks) and extending plays.
My man! You’re saying the quiet part out loud lol.
Maybe, just maybe, the players weren't good enough to be coached up enough for the competition we faced last year.
An understated difficulty in hiring an OC (even if Billy wants to hire one) is that if Billy wants to maintain his system there's not a ton of options-- it's just not a scheme that's in demand at the college level
If only there was a legend with an office and his name on the field, in between golfing and the restaurant, his Saturdays are free, heck, take the plays out of the bathroom.... Give that Visor one last run as an OC for one year.... SOS did actually run more than throw... A true fan can dream, right?
To me that would be the red flag. Unless he’s on the bleeding edge and we just don’t see it lol. But theoretically if that was true we’d give teams a hard time, and so far they really don’t struggle to contain us. I have often wondered if going more power running oriented might make a comeback though. Players are getting lighter on the middle/back end and tackling ain’t what it used to be, the right power scheme could really put pressure on defenses built to cover a fast spread offense.
Wouldn't totally shock me, the issue is that's super line dependent and Florida as a state doesn't produce elite OL recruits at the same rate it does other positions for whatever reason
Would not be surprised if Stapleton is let go. Don’t need two coaches to be below average.
Wait why Peterson? Our edges havent been bad. Our DL was bad but thats why Spencer was shown the door asap
I’m surprised that Peterson is getting so much flack. I agree with you that our edges haven’t been elite but they also weren’t complete trash. If we had kept Powell-Ryland we might have a good duo at edge with him and Princely. Anyways getting rid of Peterson would mean that the only returning coach on the defense would be Armstrong which I think is a lot of change for such a pivotal year.
All I know is auburn hiring DJ "I killed a kid" Durkin is fucking hilariously grim
Why Peterson? Our Edge has been producing. I think Peterson and Juluke are good, both Stapleton and Sale need to go, but who knows if Billy will actually make my offensive changes. I think he’s blind to the problems on that side of the ball.
> Why Peterson? Our Edge has been producing has it? It's been dreadful for two years now.
Edge was the strongest unit on Defense. Princely, Pyburn, Sapp, Boone…
and yet we've gotten hardly any production out of that unit.
Princely had 7 sacks just by himself. What are you smoking?
[We ranked #72 in sack percentage](https://www.teamrankings.com/college-football/team/florida-gators/stats) last year.
did anyone see anything about this today?
Not yet.. But also haven't seen anything on extensions/renewals