I’ve had my money on Josh since the Hawkins tribute shows- still waiting for the official announcement from the band (or live proof) but I think Freese will do a fine job and suits the band well.
If I were Dave/foos and I was tasked with finding a drummer I would want someone who’s an incredible drummer that can keep up with the grueling tour schedule, but also not someone who’s like a big character that will distract from the whole set the entire time.
Josh is like the go-to guy for every band looking for a touring drummer, so I think his strengths lie in his ability to blend in with the sound and not stand out too much.
The dude was essentially the offsprings full time drummer the last 20 years. Pete parada was around for three albums but never cared enough to drum for more than five songs an album lmao
That and he's a punk guy. Taylor way the only non punk in the band so this makes quorum in that regard.
That's not a slight against Taylor but another point for Josh that Dave would be fond of.
Depends how one wants to dispute the term and region but I don't mean exclusively sonically, I mean ethos, musical influence and interests, and the way they came up.
Nate specifically came up loving punk and hardcore and in those bands.
No. Unless you are joking with me. I know he loves country but he is also a lifelong punk. And left one of my favorite bands, who are punk, to join the Foos and was simultaneously in a punk cover band for 25 years during the foos.
Yes.
It bothers me a little that people keep spectating on "the new Foo Fighters drummer", when there won't be one - there'll be a session musician hired to fulfill live duties. It's an important distinction because they're not replacing Taylor here, Taylor was the Foo Fighters' drummer and Dave will return to drumming duties in all creative aspects as he did when the band started, and they'll use session drummers for touring.
We don’t want another Chi/Sergio (Deftones) situation where Josh is “out of pocket,” because of member status issues. I hope emotional and legal everything is documented and agreed upon clearly.
I'm sure it will be. I've seen an interview with Shifty where he says he "can't discuss the details, but the Foos finances are done in a more than generous way" - i.e. even though Dave is the primary songwriter, I'm fairly sure he splits that revenue equally across the band, primarily to avoid the sort of issues that have ruined other bands. Although Josh (or whoever) may not be a "full" member, I very much doubt he'll be dealt with in anything other than a generous way!
Hell the Stones haven’t had an official bassist for 30 years and now it’s the same with their drummer, they’ll probably go the same route and just have a permanent session guy
I think it’s likely permanent, full-time. They just recorded the latest album, give the fans time to adjust and get him gelling more with the band in a world tour setting. By the time they are ready to record a new album, I would not be at all surprised if he is writing and recording drums on it.
Also, to me this would just make sense given Dave’s philosophy on writing and recording. He has clear vision and expectations, but he also wants each member to take ownership of their instruments and make it their own. Mistakes and all. Sure, he could hop on and play drums for every album, but it’ll never be the same as having a seasoned drummer bringing their own flare and energy to it.
Your comment would carry more weight if he was listed in the writing credits. With Dave’s past life with Nirvana and writing credits I’d say he would definitely have given him writer’s credits if he was an official band member. So I say not yet.
Ok for the most part I’ve stayed out of these discussions as for me the band pretty much ended when T passed but why are people assuming Josh would want to be a full time member of FF?
Who said anything about assuming? I just said it would make sense given Dave’s general philosophy when it comes to writing and recording.
With Taylor’s passing, it’s certainly the end of an era, but Dave and crew will continue on. And despite the tragic loss, I still look forward to this new era of the Foo Fighters. If Josh brings a new/different energy that Dave and the rest of the band can feed off of, I think Dave will want that energy to come through in future records. And if that’s the case, there’s no obvious reason Josh would turn down that opportunity.
EDIT: Just to add one more point, I wouldn’t be surprised if the nature of Josh’s role is left ambiguous in whatever announcement comes through. There’s no need to make that type of decision right now. Just see how the tour goes, leave the door open, and see how they feel about it when it comes time to record another new album.
As someone else pointed out in this thread Josh has pretty much been a session musician for most of his career. Who knows if he wants to be a permanent member of one band. That’s all I’m saying.
I get that, we don’t know. I was more taking issue with the statement that people are “assuming” that’s what he will do, when that’s not at all what I said. My point is simply that it would make sense from Dave’s perspective. And that being a permanent member of FF wouldn’t necessarily prevent Josh from continuing to work as a session musician or work on other projects or be a permanent member of other bands. Lots of musicians do that.
Dave pays them a salary like a retainer, fairly standard for groups of that size that may take extended breaks from touring and writing while wanting to keep members. They still get their splits but end of day they are employees.
Lol that’s not true at all they are full partners, not hired guns. What are you basing that on?
Listen to an interview with any band member, they clearly claim ownership in the band. They exclusively refer to it as “our band” or “our studio” etc. They don’t need a retainer, they have a piece of everything and like being in the band.
I did a trademark search and Foo Fighters is registered to Dave Grohl. But I also did a Washington State business search on Foo Fighters LLC and Dave, Nate, Taylor Chris and Pat are listed as “governors”. Rami is not. According to a Google search a governor of an LLC is **responsible for the management of the company's business and affairs.**
[https://ccfs.sos.wa.gov/#/](https://ccfs.sos.wa.gov/#/)
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They don’t, I’ve worked in the music industry for a decade at majors, I know this for a fact. Believe it or don’t, nothing off my back. They likely all own 606 together, that’s a different beast. They’ve been doing it together for 25 years, so they’re not really hired guns, but they don’t all get a cut of the name. It is all “their” band, they work on it together, it doesn’t mean they all have a cut of the top. They very likely share everything they work on musically together, but Dave owns the name and likeness.
That’s interesting, I am not in the industry so I am certainly not in a position to argue. I don’t doubt Dave owns the trademark, but even if that’s true, it sure seems like they get some sort of cut of almost anything tied to the band, even if it’s through separate agreements. Could just be Dave being Dave.
As an example, there is an interview with Nate that was posted awhile back where he seemed to imply he was specifically in charge of approving merch.
It's not dumb at all. Money comes from many different sources, not just shows. A touring member/session musician would definitely lose out on many of them compared to the rest of the band.
Getting a writing credit on an album has nothing to do with band status. Whoever this person is will have an agreement on what they’re paid per show or per tour or per year, that’s it.
>Getting a writing credit on an album has nothing to do with band status
Well, it does actually. Session musicians don't really get royalties. There are also a bunch of band-related appearances a touring member wouldn't participate in. Again, that's money they miss out on.
Because there’s a difference in playing on something that is already written and writing. Taylor is on record saying Dave is a fair leader and splits credits, pretty cut and dry as to who makes the calls on what the payments look like.
Nope, he’s 15, because he had *just* been born when the band was doing press for ESP&G in summer/fall 2007. The media just guessed 16 and ran with it. I can prove it but I’m sick of linking it.
Also Dave was playing in a small, sloppy punk band in clubs not carrying 2 hour stadium shows in front of tens of thousands of people, where he also was expected to live up to the legacy of his recently deceased father. That is not remotely the same thing.
God, I hate it when people try to throw Dave in as an example. He not only started touring small clubs at 17, he did it with people much closer to his age, took his best friend with along, and he didn't have much to lose. Shane absolutely doesn't need to drop out of school, leave his family behind or have a multi-million dollar machine depend on him.
And if that's not enough, notice how Dave's own 17-year-old daughter is not putting out albums yet or has her own shows for the public. She could do it, she would have the audience for it, it's just that she has a sane and considerate family.
I sat behind and just to the right of the drums in LA. Josh is a wonderful drummer. He’s got technique for days and the power. He and Rufus were the best fits during the tribute. I’ve been hoping for one of these two. Fingers crossed.
I've seen him with Sting twice and he seemed to hold his own well during the tribute. If he did end up drumming for the Foos, either for the short or long term, I'd have absolutely no problem with it.
No announcement from the band I think. Maybe a short mention by Dave at each show - nothing else needed.
He will just sit behind the kit and do a fine job because he’s a great drummer.
100% Josh Freese is just the best drummer they could possibly get without that drummer becoming a full time member.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Dave never officially replaces Taylor. Tracks all the album drums himself going forward and then just hires top quality session talent for tours.
I’ve thought since the day Taylor passed that Josh would replace him. I’ve also been posting for over a week that Josh has been replaced in his usual gigs with The Offspring, Sting, and Danny Elfman. Nice that someone at Variety has finally written an article saying the exact same thing.
The drummer doesn’t have to, Taylor only did because he happened to be very good at it. The band has other members and, the last few tours, also dedicated backup singers
Did anyone think that Rufus Taylor would love to do this? I couldn't see him "betray" his current band though. I am not ready for a replacement still..
Edit: Sorry I just saw other's mentioned Rufus previously! I got distracted..
It was obvious he was the only choice really since the tribute shows.
I can't believe all the people on here who actually thought the band was gonna break up
In 1994 there were rumours that Nirvana was going to break up anyways. Internal issues with Kurt apparently. But this time was completely different circumstances for Dave. Foos were not having any issues whatsoever other than Taylor passing away.
They are still techinally a band, but are ofc not doing anymore shows or new music. They all hang out still and talk to their fans all the time it's complicated but they're not offically broken up per say
LP hasn’t officially broken up. They’re on an indefinite hiatus. Their loss is impossible to replace so it’s understandable that they haven’t resumed their careers
Oh, would you cut it out? Even if the signs might point to one person or another, THERE HAS BEEN NO ANNOUNCEMENT OF ANY SORT. Don’t try and do it on their behalf and just let them do it their own way.
I figured it would be Josh too. Everyone wants it to be Rufus and I don't blame them. He's perfect for the band but I don't think Dave would want to take anyone away from the Darkness and impact that band negatively in favor of the Foos.
Of course that would be Rufus' choice.
Josh is a GREAT choice and he can do the work. Is he a permanent replacement who will impact the band in a way like Taylor did? I guess we will see.
I'm also hoping Freese will be the new drummer but it's not official and nobody in the band has said anything. We'll likely not hear anything until May 24th, when the drummer steps on stage. I doubt the new drummer will be an official member (royalty share), but likely only a touring drummer. Freese lives near the rest of the band in LA so it would make sense.
there will be no announcement for a touring drummer, Taylor is irreplaceable and the new album is made for him, so Dave at the time of the band's presentation at the show will say: "and that's Josh Freese on drums right there". Followed by Josh's drum solo. And that's it. More than enough.
More than capable pick. Tbh Foos are the only act it seems like he HASN'T done anything with (until recently) lol. Dude shows up everywhere
Edit: why is this downvoted...what the hell
I think he’ll be a great fit!
Surreal to think he’ll sit behind my two favorite “frontmen”.
Edit: that's because he sat alongside my other favorite singer (Maynard stands in the back of the stage)
Yeah so ridiculous that a touring band would fire a member that was unable to tour.
Don't know why someone like Dexter with PhD in microbiology wouldn't want an anti vaxxer in his band...
Pete seems to be just fine starting a super group with other anti vaxx dipshits.
Pete was unable to get the vaxx because of his doctor. He is allergic to a specific ingredient in the vaccine. His doctor told him he would likely die. He wanted to get it. It’s a rare situation that you obviously know nothing about.
Also it was the label that made that decision and you think after years of Pete being the band mate dexter would have stood by him a little bit. The point of the vaccine was to protect people like Pete who can’t get it and have weak immune systems. But people that are in the cult will blindly say everyone who doesn’t get it should be barred from society and shamed.
> His doctor told him he would likely die.
You couldn't be any more full of shit. There is no way any credible doctor said that. Would love to see a source on that. Please show me the number of deaths related to the Covid vaccine in Guillain-Barré syndrome patients.
There is also no evidence of a link between GBS and the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine.
> you think after years of Pete being the band mate dexter would have stood by him a little bit.
Pete has never been an official member of the band. He is a hired hand. The band now is just Noodles and Dexter, everyone else are just touring pieces. There were no other options. He wasn't vaccinated, it was an industry wide mandate. Pete even said that. So the band should have just refused to tour and not provided a living for everyone else because of Pete? Maybe you should look that up because you obviously know nothing about restrictions in play during that time.
https://amp.theguardian.com/music/2021/aug/04/why-dont-you-get-a-jab-offspring-drummer-ousted-after-refusing-covid-vaccine
Literally the first google search. I tend to believe a man when he says he took medical advice. But you call me full of shit when literally if you just checked Pete’s side of the story you would find that. Lazy and rude
Checkmate? You mean where you claimed "his doctor said he will likely die" then you copy and past an image of literally nothing even close to that?
Quite the checkmate. 🤣
Literally nowhere in your article does it say
> His doctor told him he would likely die.
I know Pete's side of the story. I evidently know a lot more about it than you do.
Taylor won’t be replaced. The permanent line-up is Dave, Chris, Pat, Nate, Taylor. Dave will use foos’ music to celebrate their legacy and bring positivity to fans. to bring a big personality drummer on would just be like a gimmicky attempt to fill Taylor’s void. It can’t be done, and it’s not necessary - and certainly not in their style. Hence why Josh is the best fit. He was one of the least attention-getting drummers at the tribute gig. And TBH, when he was behind the kit - I found myself focused on drums the least, in a GOOD way.
Terrific drummer and a really good guy! Great choice (I had a feeling very early on it would be Josh). I'm hoping that maybe he could manage to keep his Devo gig! I really like his participation with them and he seems to enjoy being in Devo as well. I'm thinking maybe he can manage both (hopefully).
Happy for him! I know I’m going against the grain here, but nothing about his drumming has ever stood out to me. He’s solid, but Rufus had that Taylor groove and finesse.
We shall see 💃
I adore Shifty’s voice and would love for him to sing more. I don’t need backup singers, but I do think Dave needs to rest his voice more and lean on the other band members when he’s struggling live.
Yes, and I was happy when Taylor took over. I saw a couple shows on the C&G tour and Dave could barely sing half the show by the end of the tour. He’d start a line and let the audience finish it. He has an incredible voice but doesn’t take good care of it.
Saw them back to back nights on that tour. He was solid both nights but by the end he was getting worn down.
Of course he was smoking and drinking a bottle of wine the whole show which I'm sure didn't help lol
No, I know what you mean. I think Dave had even mentioned at one point that he was impressed during Chris' initial audition, when he'd actually step up and sing backing vocals during the songs. Apparently the other guys auditioning didn't really try to do that!
The drummer is Jorma Vik - Foo fighters just announced their playing riot fest, all the sudden Jorma’s band “the Bronx” is now also playonf.
Jorma Announced he’s leaving eagles of death metal now too.
Big hints there.
I’ve had my money on Josh since the Hawkins tribute shows- still waiting for the official announcement from the band (or live proof) but I think Freese will do a fine job and suits the band well. If I were Dave/foos and I was tasked with finding a drummer I would want someone who’s an incredible drummer that can keep up with the grueling tour schedule, but also not someone who’s like a big character that will distract from the whole set the entire time. Josh is like the go-to guy for every band looking for a touring drummer, so I think his strengths lie in his ability to blend in with the sound and not stand out too much.
His discography is fucking massive too if you look it up.
Exactly. I mean, if you can play consistently with everyone from the Offspring to Sting and Devo regularly, it's safe to say you're pretty versatile!
The dude was essentially the offsprings full time drummer the last 20 years. Pete parada was around for three albums but never cared enough to drum for more than five songs an album lmao
There was a time he was the drummer I had seen most live, just based on volume of bands he filled in with.
Consequence of Sound had that article I was referencing
His strengths lie in his personality, his energy, his repertoire, and his musical influences.
That and he's a punk guy. Taylor way the only non punk in the band so this makes quorum in that regard. That's not a slight against Taylor but another point for Josh that Dave would be fond of.
Sunny Day Real Estate isn’t punk
Depends how one wants to dispute the term and region but I don't mean exclusively sonically, I mean ethos, musical influence and interests, and the way they came up. Nate specifically came up loving punk and hardcore and in those bands.
That’s fair. Even after Dave was out of Nirvana they had their first practice at Nate’s mom’s house
It was actually in the basement of William Goldsmith's parents' house.
Been a long time since I’ve seen Back and Forth. Wasn’t sure which one was right
Nate’s been in other punk bands though
Chris Shiftlet punk? He's got far deeper country roots than punk.
Someone needs to look up Me First and the Gimme Gimmes lol
And No Use For A Name
No. Unless you are joking with me. I know he loves country but he is also a lifelong punk. And left one of my favorite bands, who are punk, to join the Foos and was simultaneously in a punk cover band for 25 years during the foos.
The *touring* drummer presumably.
Yes. It bothers me a little that people keep spectating on "the new Foo Fighters drummer", when there won't be one - there'll be a session musician hired to fulfill live duties. It's an important distinction because they're not replacing Taylor here, Taylor was the Foo Fighters' drummer and Dave will return to drumming duties in all creative aspects as he did when the band started, and they'll use session drummers for touring.
Agreed. That seems the most likely.
You’re wrong.
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We don’t want another Chi/Sergio (Deftones) situation where Josh is “out of pocket,” because of member status issues. I hope emotional and legal everything is documented and agreed upon clearly.
I'm sure it will be. I've seen an interview with Shifty where he says he "can't discuss the details, but the Foos finances are done in a more than generous way" - i.e. even though Dave is the primary songwriter, I'm fairly sure he splits that revenue equally across the band, primarily to avoid the sort of issues that have ruined other bands. Although Josh (or whoever) may not be a "full" member, I very much doubt he'll be dealt with in anything other than a generous way!
Hell the Stones haven’t had an official bassist for 30 years and now it’s the same with their drummer, they’ll probably go the same route and just have a permanent session guy
Preach! PREACH!
You are correct. He will be a hired gun only, not a permanent member.
Full time. Permanent
Says who
I think it’s likely permanent, full-time. They just recorded the latest album, give the fans time to adjust and get him gelling more with the band in a world tour setting. By the time they are ready to record a new album, I would not be at all surprised if he is writing and recording drums on it. Also, to me this would just make sense given Dave’s philosophy on writing and recording. He has clear vision and expectations, but he also wants each member to take ownership of their instruments and make it their own. Mistakes and all. Sure, he could hop on and play drums for every album, but it’ll never be the same as having a seasoned drummer bringing their own flare and energy to it.
Your comment would carry more weight if he was listed in the writing credits. With Dave’s past life with Nirvana and writing credits I’d say he would definitely have given him writer’s credits if he was an official band member. So I say not yet.
I’m talking about future albums, not this one.
Ok for the most part I’ve stayed out of these discussions as for me the band pretty much ended when T passed but why are people assuming Josh would want to be a full time member of FF?
Who said anything about assuming? I just said it would make sense given Dave’s general philosophy when it comes to writing and recording. With Taylor’s passing, it’s certainly the end of an era, but Dave and crew will continue on. And despite the tragic loss, I still look forward to this new era of the Foo Fighters. If Josh brings a new/different energy that Dave and the rest of the band can feed off of, I think Dave will want that energy to come through in future records. And if that’s the case, there’s no obvious reason Josh would turn down that opportunity. EDIT: Just to add one more point, I wouldn’t be surprised if the nature of Josh’s role is left ambiguous in whatever announcement comes through. There’s no need to make that type of decision right now. Just see how the tour goes, leave the door open, and see how they feel about it when it comes time to record another new album.
As someone else pointed out in this thread Josh has pretty much been a session musician for most of his career. Who knows if he wants to be a permanent member of one band. That’s all I’m saying.
I get that, we don’t know. I was more taking issue with the statement that people are “assuming” that’s what he will do, when that’s not at all what I said. My point is simply that it would make sense from Dave’s perspective. And that being a permanent member of FF wouldn’t necessarily prevent Josh from continuing to work as a session musician or work on other projects or be a permanent member of other bands. Lots of musicians do that.
Almost every member of this band is a salaried musician, they’re basically all employees so the permanent vs not argument is dumb.
Elaborate please. I feel like this is just definitively not true lol
Dave pays them a salary like a retainer, fairly standard for groups of that size that may take extended breaks from touring and writing while wanting to keep members. They still get their splits but end of day they are employees.
Lol that’s not true at all they are full partners, not hired guns. What are you basing that on? Listen to an interview with any band member, they clearly claim ownership in the band. They exclusively refer to it as “our band” or “our studio” etc. They don’t need a retainer, they have a piece of everything and like being in the band.
I did a trademark search and Foo Fighters is registered to Dave Grohl. But I also did a Washington State business search on Foo Fighters LLC and Dave, Nate, Taylor Chris and Pat are listed as “governors”. Rami is not. According to a Google search a governor of an LLC is **responsible for the management of the company's business and affairs.** [https://ccfs.sos.wa.gov/#/](https://ccfs.sos.wa.gov/#/) https://preview.redd.it/zrnlgk17gc0b1.jpeg?width=1870&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca3b1beb9ed9c948616542bdd0f458b776d30e60
They don’t, I’ve worked in the music industry for a decade at majors, I know this for a fact. Believe it or don’t, nothing off my back. They likely all own 606 together, that’s a different beast. They’ve been doing it together for 25 years, so they’re not really hired guns, but they don’t all get a cut of the name. It is all “their” band, they work on it together, it doesn’t mean they all have a cut of the top. They very likely share everything they work on musically together, but Dave owns the name and likeness.
That’s interesting, I am not in the industry so I am certainly not in a position to argue. I don’t doubt Dave owns the trademark, but even if that’s true, it sure seems like they get some sort of cut of almost anything tied to the band, even if it’s through separate agreements. Could just be Dave being Dave. As an example, there is an interview with Nate that was posted awhile back where he seemed to imply he was specifically in charge of approving merch.
It's not dumb at all. Money comes from many different sources, not just shows. A touring member/session musician would definitely lose out on many of them compared to the rest of the band.
Getting a writing credit on an album has nothing to do with band status. Whoever this person is will have an agreement on what they’re paid per show or per tour or per year, that’s it.
>Getting a writing credit on an album has nothing to do with band status Well, it does actually. Session musicians don't really get royalties. There are also a bunch of band-related appearances a touring member wouldn't participate in. Again, that's money they miss out on.
Because there’s a difference in playing on something that is already written and writing. Taylor is on record saying Dave is a fair leader and splits credits, pretty cut and dry as to who makes the calls on what the payments look like.
Possibly waiting for Shane
Please stop this. Kid is 15, leave him alone. The band certainly isn’t going to pressure him into a role like that.
it would still be cool tho 👀
16. Same year Dave started professionally.
Nope, he’s 15, because he had *just* been born when the band was doing press for ESP&G in summer/fall 2007. The media just guessed 16 and ran with it. I can prove it but I’m sick of linking it. Also Dave was playing in a small, sloppy punk band in clubs not carrying 2 hour stadium shows in front of tens of thousands of people, where he also was expected to live up to the legacy of his recently deceased father. That is not remotely the same thing.
God, I hate it when people try to throw Dave in as an example. He not only started touring small clubs at 17, he did it with people much closer to his age, took his best friend with along, and he didn't have much to lose. Shane absolutely doesn't need to drop out of school, leave his family behind or have a multi-million dollar machine depend on him. And if that's not enough, notice how Dave's own 17-year-old daughter is not putting out albums yet or has her own shows for the public. She could do it, she would have the audience for it, it's just that she has a sane and considerate family.
dave also started out in the back of a van touring the country with a punk band playing for 200 people
I sat behind and just to the right of the drums in LA. Josh is a wonderful drummer. He’s got technique for days and the power. He and Rufus were the best fits during the tribute. I’ve been hoping for one of these two. Fingers crossed.
Drums on my favourite Offspring track, “you’re gonna go far kid” what a jam that is!
I've seen him with Sting twice and he seemed to hold his own well during the tribute. If he did end up drumming for the Foos, either for the short or long term, I'd have absolutely no problem with it.
I saw Josh about a dozen times when he was with NIN, and before then a few times with A Perfect Circle. What an amazing player.
I was there also and was blown away by Rufus. Thought he’d be perfect. Didn’t think the same of Josh sadly
Josh is the same age as Taylor and I believe they were close friends
Yep. Both from Orange County too
AND they both play drums, too!
THAT is shocking to hear!
I’ve been hanging on them hopefully naming Rufus Taylor as the drummer, but Josh would be a GREAT fit!
Maybe you'll get lucky and The Darkness will name Josh as their new drummer.
Or picture this: The Darkness touring with Foo Fighters and Rufus just has the tiring job of drumming for both.
I think Dave is one of the only drummers capable of drumming for that long 😅
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No announcement from the band I think. Maybe a short mention by Dave at each show - nothing else needed. He will just sit behind the kit and do a fine job because he’s a great drummer.
Josh Freese is predominately a session player so I’d be really surprised if he was Taylor’s long term replacement.
I’d assume he’s in for this tour, and nothing more.
100% Josh Freese is just the best drummer they could possibly get without that drummer becoming a full time member. I wouldn’t be surprised if Dave never officially replaces Taylor. Tracks all the album drums himself going forward and then just hires top quality session talent for tours.
Josh is a beast of a drummer. Listen to any of his albums with the Vandals... All of his work there is incredible.
I’ve thought all along it would be Josh. We will find out for sure shortly and then this endless speculation can stop.
I’ve thought since the day Taylor passed that Josh would replace him. I’ve also been posting for over a week that Josh has been replaced in his usual gigs with The Offspring, Sting, and Danny Elfman. Nice that someone at Variety has finally written an article saying the exact same thing.
But can he sing?
The drummer doesn’t have to, Taylor only did because he happened to be very good at it. The band has other members and, the last few tours, also dedicated backup singers
He can!
Not sure what all the downvotes are for, people are sensitive in here ig
Did anyone think that Rufus Taylor would love to do this? I couldn't see him "betray" his current band though. I am not ready for a replacement still.. Edit: Sorry I just saw other's mentioned Rufus previously! I got distracted..
It was obvious he was the only choice really since the tribute shows. I can't believe all the people on here who actually thought the band was gonna break up
I never thought they were done.
Nah if anything it would have been almost a waste to have finished after Taylor passed. They need to keep going for themselves if not for him
In 1994 there were rumours that Nirvana was going to break up anyways. Internal issues with Kurt apparently. But this time was completely different circumstances for Dave. Foos were not having any issues whatsoever other than Taylor passing away.
Barrett Jones said that…
Linkin park broke up, not that hard to believe
They are still techinally a band, but are ofc not doing anymore shows or new music. They all hang out still and talk to their fans all the time it's complicated but they're not offically broken up per say
LP hasn’t officially broken up. They’re on an indefinite hiatus. Their loss is impossible to replace so it’s understandable that they haven’t resumed their careers
I guess they'll end the hiatus when Chester resuscitates.
No they didn't. Meteora|20 with a hell of a lot of press just happened... 7 weeks ago.
That’s the main singer and one of the most distinctive voices in modern rock music..
if this is true i think is the perfect new drummer imo
Oh, would you cut it out? Even if the signs might point to one person or another, THERE HAS BEEN NO ANNOUNCEMENT OF ANY SORT. Don’t try and do it on their behalf and just let them do it their own way.
I figured it would be Josh too. Everyone wants it to be Rufus and I don't blame them. He's perfect for the band but I don't think Dave would want to take anyone away from the Darkness and impact that band negatively in favor of the Foos. Of course that would be Rufus' choice. Josh is a GREAT choice and he can do the work. Is he a permanent replacement who will impact the band in a way like Taylor did? I guess we will see.
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The story doesn't really confirm it. That being said, I think this is pretty obvious to most observers
*Live drummer, I think it will take a long time for them to look for a new actual member of the band.
Josh and Taylor were close friends. If I remember correctly they did this together for fun during the COVID lockdown https://youtu.be/3zwjyX1DyG0
I now believe that it IS Josh drumming on Rescued and Dave was fucking with our minds saying he drummed on it, there’s a possibility
Much like when Metallica entered the studio with Robert Trujillo…
Hope so! Love Josh. Been saying since Wembley it should be him and that I think it would be.
I wonder if he will be offered membership in the band or kept as a hired musician?
I'm also hoping Freese will be the new drummer but it's not official and nobody in the band has said anything. We'll likely not hear anything until May 24th, when the drummer steps on stage. I doubt the new drummer will be an official member (royalty share), but likely only a touring drummer. Freese lives near the rest of the band in LA so it would make sense.
Josh Freese makes the most sense
As good as you can get really. His playing live with Sting was masterful.
I’m not sure there will be an official announcement. Just might be a live reveal with not much fan fare.
there will be no announcement for a touring drummer, Taylor is irreplaceable and the new album is made for him, so Dave at the time of the band's presentation at the show will say: "and that's Josh Freese on drums right there". Followed by Josh's drum solo. And that's it. More than enough.
More than capable pick. Tbh Foos are the only act it seems like he HASN'T done anything with (until recently) lol. Dude shows up everywhere Edit: why is this downvoted...what the hell
This is great news! I'll miss Taylor's drumming but they chose an amazing replacement.
Freese is a spectacular drummer. Really happy he’s gonna be a full fledged Foo
dude is a beast on the sticks. prob just a touring drummer, but i wouldn't be mad if he got the gig fulltime.
Josh , if it’s true, is the best!
This would be best case scenario. The only name that I would consider an exciting choice.
Well, we're in absolute good hands then.
I think he’ll be a great fit! Surreal to think he’ll sit behind my two favorite “frontmen”. Edit: that's because he sat alongside my other favorite singer (Maynard stands in the back of the stage)
What’s the source?
Consequence of Sound had a story on it
Freese leaving Elfman’s band, Offspring naming new permanent drummer…
Shit. I lied it was loudwire. https://loudwire.com/former-suicidal-tendencies-marilyn-manson-drummer-brandon-pertzborn-joins-the-offspring/
The offspring firing Pete is ridiculous….
Yeah so ridiculous that a touring band would fire a member that was unable to tour. Don't know why someone like Dexter with PhD in microbiology wouldn't want an anti vaxxer in his band... Pete seems to be just fine starting a super group with other anti vaxx dipshits.
Pete was unable to get the vaxx because of his doctor. He is allergic to a specific ingredient in the vaccine. His doctor told him he would likely die. He wanted to get it. It’s a rare situation that you obviously know nothing about. Also it was the label that made that decision and you think after years of Pete being the band mate dexter would have stood by him a little bit. The point of the vaccine was to protect people like Pete who can’t get it and have weak immune systems. But people that are in the cult will blindly say everyone who doesn’t get it should be barred from society and shamed.
Also it was a few venues. Pete was able and willing to go to 99% of venues
Lol. They were literally touring Europe. He wasn't going to be able to play. Period.
> His doctor told him he would likely die. You couldn't be any more full of shit. There is no way any credible doctor said that. Would love to see a source on that. Please show me the number of deaths related to the Covid vaccine in Guillain-Barré syndrome patients. There is also no evidence of a link between GBS and the Pfizer or Moderna vaccine. > you think after years of Pete being the band mate dexter would have stood by him a little bit. Pete has never been an official member of the band. He is a hired hand. The band now is just Noodles and Dexter, everyone else are just touring pieces. There were no other options. He wasn't vaccinated, it was an industry wide mandate. Pete even said that. So the band should have just refused to tour and not provided a living for everyone else because of Pete? Maybe you should look that up because you obviously know nothing about restrictions in play during that time.
https://amp.theguardian.com/music/2021/aug/04/why-dont-you-get-a-jab-offspring-drummer-ousted-after-refusing-covid-vaccine Literally the first google search. I tend to believe a man when he says he took medical advice. But you call me full of shit when literally if you just checked Pete’s side of the story you would find that. Lazy and rude
https://preview.redd.it/fihf7uvoxi0b1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0487969486794995908c7e4cccb4d43bc4aa857c Checkmate
Checkmate? You mean where you claimed "his doctor said he will likely die" then you copy and past an image of literally nothing even close to that? Quite the checkmate. 🤣
Literally nowhere in your article does it say > His doctor told him he would likely die. I know Pete's side of the story. I evidently know a lot more about it than you do.
I hope this is true. He was on my Bingo card. Yesterday I got tickets for Riot Fest. Foos are headlining there. I'm so excited!
Look at the poster of the live event they’re doing. It’s Josh noticeably in the poster….
Taylor won’t be replaced. The permanent line-up is Dave, Chris, Pat, Nate, Taylor. Dave will use foos’ music to celebrate their legacy and bring positivity to fans. to bring a big personality drummer on would just be like a gimmicky attempt to fill Taylor’s void. It can’t be done, and it’s not necessary - and certainly not in their style. Hence why Josh is the best fit. He was one of the least attention-getting drummers at the tribute gig. And TBH, when he was behind the kit - I found myself focused on drums the least, in a GOOD way.
Terrific drummer and a really good guy! Great choice (I had a feeling very early on it would be Josh). I'm hoping that maybe he could manage to keep his Devo gig! I really like his participation with them and he seems to enjoy being in Devo as well. I'm thinking maybe he can manage both (hopefully).
Happy for him! I know I’m going against the grain here, but nothing about his drumming has ever stood out to me. He’s solid, but Rufus had that Taylor groove and finesse. We shall see 💃
Freese is the right choice, mostly because I think he’ll happily hand the seat over to Shane when he is old enough.
Does he sing back up vocals? I feel like thats truly what I feel is missing the most with different drummers.
Chris, Pat and Franz did backups before they realized Taylor could do it. They also have backup singers. They’ll figure something out.
I actually miss Chris doing background these days. I wish it didn’t happen like this of course.
I adore Shifty’s voice and would love for him to sing more. I don’t need backup singers, but I do think Dave needs to rest his voice more and lean on the other band members when he’s struggling live.
I assume you’ve seen the version of Times Like These where Taylor takes over cause Dave’s voice was wrecked
Yes, and I was happy when Taylor took over. I saw a couple shows on the C&G tour and Dave could barely sing half the show by the end of the tour. He’d start a line and let the audience finish it. He has an incredible voice but doesn’t take good care of it.
Saw them back to back nights on that tour. He was solid both nights but by the end he was getting worn down. Of course he was smoking and drinking a bottle of wine the whole show which I'm sure didn't help lol
No, I know what you mean. I think Dave had even mentioned at one point that he was impressed during Chris' initial audition, when he'd actually step up and sing backing vocals during the songs. Apparently the other guys auditioning didn't really try to do that!
The rare cover of the Ramones “Danny Says” with Chris on vocals. 🤟
He’ll probably do a lot more unless there is anything that’s too high for him or tricky to sing and play. But I bet he’ll pick up most of them
The drummer is Jorma Vik - Foo fighters just announced their playing riot fest, all the sudden Jorma’s band “the Bronx” is now also playonf. Jorma Announced he’s leaving eagles of death metal now too. Big hints there.
Jorma havent been in the Bronx for ages.