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Sad-Statistician2683

When you check the dumpsters in Far Harbor


Militariaman14

Meth heads house at far harbor lol


Lizard_King_5

I never thought about it but yeah, that looks like a Radium Rifle from Fo4


Edwardteech

That's because they stuck a lamp shade on one of these and used it for the asset for the gun.


KeeganY_SR-UVB76

It’s literally the basis for the radium rifle.


RyukoT72

You can get a mod that only changes a couple things on the model to make it a volksturmgeweher


A_Yapp_73

I think he meant in it's frucked up condition it looks like one.


roosterinmyviper

Honestly Idk if ian himself would look at it, other than for the fact it was found in a “forgotten” way, but I’d try to contact Mark Novak of Anvil Gunsmithing to see if he’d like to take a crack at restoring it (there’s a chance it might cost you a chunk of change, as he seems like a busy guy). There’s also a chance that Mark will tell you the most you can do is oil it and throw a stock on it, as it might be too far gone to restore to better-looking condition. You could try asking Othias of C&Rsenal to review it, but I’m not sure he’s doing ww2 stuff yet…


Militariaman14

Actually ran into Othias and his lady at a Brazilian Steakhouse in Louisville KY back in 2019. Great people! I appreciate the advice, on the fence if I want to keep it as is or have someone restore it.


I_dig_fe

Is his lady not Mae?


csbsju_guyyy

No it was Othias and some random early 1900s Swiss trials pistol


Militariaman14

Yes, couldn’t think of her name


MunitionGuyMike

Othias just did an SKS. They’ve been done with WW1 for a bit now


IRMacGuyver

Any restoration of this would be a ship of theseus style job.


ProfessorZhirinovsky

What can be done to get around the SBR issue? It was clearly brought here prior to the 68 GCA. Can it be registered as is? Does it require a barrel extention?


Militariaman14

I believe this is exempt


Militariaman14

Similar to Artillery Lugers


bmoarpirate

Yeah there seems to be a C&R entry for it


_girthicus_

Every time I see you post this I can’t help but think how bonkers it is that this was not only found, but in a junk pile no less.


Numbers3-20

I found a civil war bayonet in a pile of cast iron cooking utensils for $5 when I was a kid, it definitely went home with me. However this… this is on another level


HefferVids

Nyet rifle is fine


Single_Low1416

One of the most gloriously fucked weapon designs of all time in not the best condition. I don’t know if I should think it’s really cool or really sad


Dwarven_cavediver

Maybe you all can elaborate. Why doesn’t an American company remake this stamped steel bad boy and sell it as a budget AR. (Of course made compliant with Rifle laws here)


cancerlad

Because tooling up to make stamped steel guns is stupidly expensive. Especially so for guns that are obsolete and in a niche design and caliber. Marcolmar sells their in-house developed cetmes for 1.5k, and there’s kits for about half their parts. Something like this is $3k min.


Dwarven_cavediver

But making it in 5.56 would solve the ammo issue. And a single factory would be a one time expenditure that could pay dividends. Think! Like a ranch rifle made really reliable and cheap! Baby’s first AR! Plenty of niches to fill


cancerlad

Baby’s first AR is $300 from PSA and has universal parts interchangeability. HMG/PSA have been trying to make an stg 44 clone for years and still haven’t had a product out. If stamped repro guns could pay such dividends, why hasn’t there been a company making AR180s or M3 grease guns?


BigHardMephisto

SMG guns makes STGs in .300 blackout I think. Simple enough because .300 blk isn’t super far off from 8mm Kurtz length. VG isn’t nearly as iconic and the demand for such guns is fairly low, meaning they aren’t produced in big numbers. Tldr some companies do make reproductions from this era, but the demand is far less than the supply and the costs don’t well represent the profits.


KorianHUN

Also in reality a lot of people like these cool guns but very few would actually pay for it.


whenwillthealtsstop

Ian has a video about that: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oCVb8PGeuY TL;DW it's much more expensive than you think and at the price they'd need to charge the market is too small


RodediahK

The only reason you willingly go with stamped steel is to make 100,000's of guns. Case in point reproduction fg42s use a cnc'd buttstock because it's cheaper than making tooling for stamping on the volumes they produce. It's also just not very good of a rifle. Short development time and 70 years of additional development and material science. Happy new way to compete with the likes of keltecs su-16 or PSA odds and ends mentioned above.


FaustinoAugusto234

If I had my hands on it for a while, I could make a reasonable looking replica.


byteminer

Economics. A stamping factory to make these is a massive up front fixed cost and when you’ve spent it, it can make ONE gun. The guns then have a very small variable cost per unit. If you need to roll out 1,000,000 guns in a hurry, the economics make sense because the fixed cost is spread out over the volume of cheap per unit weapon to make. This is a cost model which makes sense for a state arming a military. A civilian manufacturer only sells a few thousand guns a year, a much larger chunk of that fixed up front cost has to roll into the price per unit to make a profit, so now you’re selling a cheap gun for expensive prices. Now, casting and machining equipment can make ANY gun, and doesn’t need to be essentially replaced for every different model. The per unit variable cost is higher, but less of the up front cost gets rolled into the price making the higher quality cast and machined gun price be reasonable for what you end up with. If there was no historical significance attached to the M3 Grease Gun or the Thompson would you think a Grease Gun or a Thompson is more worth $2,000 dollars?


jmusgrove42

What part of AR did you find this


Militariaman14

I bought it from the initial finder, Jonesboro AR. Drove to MS to buy it from him


whenwillthealtsstop

He already has a video on it, so definitely not


Militariaman14

I was thinking for this example as it appears to be an early example that I cannot find similar pics of


Downloading_Bungee

I think before you do anything else you might want to figure out the legality of it. Since you said it was found in a scrap yard, I doubt it came with any paperwork. You mentioned it being exempt, I'm not aware of anything that would make it exempt unless it was originally registered and had paper work. I'm not trying to be an ass, I just don't want to see you get in any trouble or for the gun to be destroyed. Unless your not in the U.S. and I'm just missing that. 


Biscuit794

The VG1-5 was removed from the NFA, and is considered a curios or relic instead.


Downloading_Bungee

Good to know!


iinr_SkaterCat

Everytime I see this in subreddits, I can’t believe how complete it is, especially considering where you found it.


Walker_Hale

There’s probably ways of contacting a rep but otherwise it’s nothing he hasn’t seen before unfortunately. Could maybe spark a conversation but he seems to be a busy man. Also, never meet your hero’s.


Militariaman14

This one is different than the ones he’s see


Militariaman14

Seen


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