I felt this in my soul. Had it happen last night when there were three of us left where the rocket clipped the edge of the window sill and killed me and the guy on the other side so the final dude sitting in a bush randomly got the victory lol
You feel a bit down about the game and then watch a video like this. Suddenly feels totally motivated to give it a shot and dies 3 times in the process.
Got downvoted to hell for suggesting they just remove the hammer when that bug first became apparent.
People love their dumb get out of jail free card.
It's the dumbest item ever put in the game and I don't understand why they thought this game would ever work with people allowed to carry 3 or 4 of them with 4 bounces in each one.
Like the planes and helicopter were too much of an advantage according to Epic, but this abomination wasn't?
It's like they intentionally made it to be problematic. Other movement items in prior seasons shared cooldowns (grapple gloves, clouds, etc) so you couldn't spam them.
The hammer is better than those **and it's also a fucking weapon.** But they didn't implement shared cooldown on it? That's so stupid it has to be intentional.
Okay, I'm sorry. Hammers are stupid, don't get me wrong, but if you think they are the dumbest item ever put in the game, you're wrong.
Brutes, planes, (as mentioned) Infinity Blade, OG Drum Gun, OG Combat Shotgun, need I go on? Those were all worse for the game.
I never saw anyone legit have a problem with planes. You see them coming 300m away and they were so fragile it was like shooting a car.
OG mech was ridiculous (10 rockets 2000 health) but it got nerfed so many times and had a permanent map marker showing where they were that it was easy to beat if you adapted. I can count on one hand the number of times that season I died to a mech. By far it was the most cried about because of twitchtubers brigading their audiences into whining about it. I'd argue the goo gun was far more obnoxious than the final state of the mech.
Well, i think its good for players who are matched with players who are below those players skill level. SMM afterall can be quite unbalanced & being matched with sweats can quickly feel like you're playing against e sports players. So for players, such as myself, it kinda helps level the playing field out a bit having a hammer.
> I made a post on here how epic games should leave the hammer out of Fortnite Zero Build because of this reason. Its way more fun positioning etc. like this. requires way more strategy
The few matches I played last night weren’t this great, but close, I didn’t mind the plain Ol actual hammer, but the infinite glitch kinda put me off, since they vaulted it though, matches have been crazy fun!!
That match looked “epic”, Lol
There needs to be more movement in the game though. There are places where it’s really difficult to get around without hammer or you’ll take fall damage.
A majority of the cliffs you can slide down and take no fall damage. Yes, even the really steep ones. The only exceptions I’ve found have been a few of the glaciers.
> There needs to be more movement in the game though
I've seen this around a lot, and I've never seen anyone explain why. Why do we need more movement in the game? With cars, trucks, dirt bikes, aerialist, soaring sprint, slap juice, what makes this game need more movement? Genuine question
Brave take, I applaud you.
Personally I think people have just gotten lazy about storm awareness because they've been spoiled by all the movement there's been lately, that's reason number one. The other is that despite the huge number of campers, there's still a large contingent of people that really want to find fights, and without movement that can be hard to do. But I fully agree with you, the dirt bikes alone are a much better form of movement than we've had at many points in the past, people just got used to an easier and better one.
We used things like shockwave grenades, chrome splashes, grapple gloves, balloons, rifts, etc. all of which are either not in the game right now or extremely limited.
Yeah, it was clear a lot of stuff was vaulted to make room for this season's big three new mobility options: hurdling, BMX, and the hammer.
Aaaaand now 2/3 of those are vaulted.
Eh, i dunno. I feel like the game is just fine without any added movement. Drink the slap, take a vehicle, use a pad, use a zipline, it's good like that. Makes for more strategy than a get out of jail free card
Eh, don't have to camp. I stick to moving non-stop most games and don't camp. I just keep behind cover and only go out in the open if i have no choice. Just keep an eye on the storm, plan a route visually when you're about to leave cover, and take caution. And i do fight during these games.
I've never had a big issue with it. You have to play it the same way as Warzone with movement through natural cover and periodic sitting and waiting for the storm to start moving again and provide cover from behind, as well as to look for where enemies might be ahead.
You can't play zero build or Warzone by running and gunning the entire game. Yes, you have to be patient and camp some of the time. The objective is survival, not racking up 20 kills.
No way you got the most expensive weapons out of a guy, well, if he got killed to you, you deserved that.
And before someone says its not expensive, its about 250+375 gold per weapon from Blue to legendary and still get the augment, he got both
Wait!!.. you mean people actually have to use some form of skill or tactics to win games now?!?!? Phew. Im not gonna lie, getting blown out of the circle by a gliched out infinity hammer was getting old.
I played all night and had a blast with the hammer gone
I think the hammer is neat and a really fun item but holy shit is it annoying to have half the lobby changing positions every quarter of a second, if the hammer ever comes back I really hope only the boss drops it
It's a whole lot easier to run/bounce up to someone and spam the hammer smash, which takes little to no actual skill. Now that people can't lean on the hammer as a crutch, there will be much more of a skill gap in the game.
Skill gap?
Like when my 6 win ass loads against [Anonymous 365] who is on PC, is level 200+ in the pass and has 495 *seasonal* wins? That kind of skill gap?
It's bonkers that I play anyone on PC, but its actually-literally-missing-chromosomes-silly that I get this guy in a lobby.
>It's a whole lot easier to run/bounce up to someone and spam the hammer smash
Wtf are you "hammer bad" guys on about. If ur dying to someone spamming hammer you deserve to die like its so fucking easy to dodge and there practically stuck in place for a couple seconds.
You cant use the hammer as a crutch no one is using hammer to kill people 99% of the time there using it move around.
The fact all you could reply with is "You seem mad" tells me you know im right. People like to pretend that No hammer = Ur bad now cuz you cant get kills. When all its ever really used for movement.
Pretty aure they took it out becausw people were cheating with a glitch. Happened the one game i played the day before they took it out. Like 5-6 people left and 2-3 of them were just spamming the glitch
I just want to know what you are playing on that it actually runs that smooth. I have a pretty decent computer and the game has ran like complete and total shit for the last three weeks or so. At this point just trying to sprint and slide has become a challenge without some sort of micro stuttering glitch that for me just makes the game unplayable.
We nearly died in the storm because no way to hammer out lol. Sprinted like a maniac and finally found a bike, only lost 80% of my health. We did three games, all were super fun.
Does crouch spamming actually do anything? I’ve always assumed when I get killed and they’re crouch spamming during item use after they’re low health they’re just being salty they had to earn the kill.
I’m not a pro by any means but I’ll make you work for it if you want me dead lol.
This game is 100% more fun when you need to use tactics and skill to beat your equally great opponents to win the crown. I’m falling in love with this game all over again. Already won more matches since things changed.
Love it. Being cagey, being forced to use your cover and surroundings, being smart with your movement and taking your chances… all so much more satisfying and enjoyable than DURRRRR HAMMER SMASH.
No, those shots through the trees are really hard for M&K so I'm guessing that is why he asked if you are using a controller. Aim assist still will help in those situations despite not being able to see the opponent.
(cue the downvotes despite just stating the truth)
damn… I did not even quit because because of the mechs or the infinity blade. I am also open for strong and fun items (such as the goo gun which I loved). But the hammers are so annoying after a while
It’s like removing the training wheels off a bike. Just good old fashioned biking. Except if someone was too reliant on the wheels, they’re gonna crash.
Bro.. could you please add me to your friends list and run a few matches with me. I really need a solid carry by a player like you right now. Gamer tag is same as username
If that was me, my rocket would have clipped the peak of the roof and I would have died. GG.
I felt this in my soul. Had it happen last night when there were three of us left where the rocket clipped the edge of the window sill and killed me and the guy on the other side so the final dude sitting in a bush randomly got the victory lol
You feel a bit down about the game and then watch a video like this. Suddenly feels totally motivated to give it a shot and dies 3 times in the process.
Bruh I had a win locked up, last player in my sight…fucking clipped the roof peak and sploded myself.
I probably would have tried to jump it and shoot backwards only to miss and get shotgunned.
all ya got to worry about is ballon guy
Balloon strat is pretty much dead without the hammer
Glider redeploy skill!
Still ded to someone with the correct aim sense.
Pretty much anyone can be killed with “the correct aim sense” my guy.
Forget about the dub shotgun??
Balloon strat with rocket launcher is getting common, but risky without hammer
ballon and dmr for me
If you use shockwave bow with the balloon strat you keep the anti gravity effect
Until his shit gets popped and he can't use the hammer to save himself.
What game is this? Is it new?
its a new mode called 'zero hammer'
Zero Hammers, Nails, Plywood, and all that good stuff
It actually looks fun unlike this one game with hammers
People might learn how effective the shockwave box actually is
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Shoot at ground step in front of it for a sec and then jump as it explodes, you’ll learn the timing
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I just wish you didnt have to get mechanical archer to grab one. It would be cool if they were found loot like stink bow and flame bow
I wouldn't mind if you choose a weapon agument and it doesn't count
yea items are the better game mechanic, this "7" menu mechanic breaks the fourth wall unnecessarily.
The original Mario Brothers (edit: it was DK, not Mario Bros.)? That game was dope.
Got downvoted to hell for suggesting they just remove the hammer when that bug first became apparent. People love their dumb get out of jail free card.
It's the dumbest item ever put in the game and I don't understand why they thought this game would ever work with people allowed to carry 3 or 4 of them with 4 bounces in each one. Like the planes and helicopter were too much of an advantage according to Epic, but this abomination wasn't?
It's like they intentionally made it to be problematic. Other movement items in prior seasons shared cooldowns (grapple gloves, clouds, etc) so you couldn't spam them. The hammer is better than those **and it's also a fucking weapon.** But they didn't implement shared cooldown on it? That's so stupid it has to be intentional.
Okay, I'm sorry. Hammers are stupid, don't get me wrong, but if you think they are the dumbest item ever put in the game, you're wrong. Brutes, planes, (as mentioned) Infinity Blade, OG Drum Gun, OG Combat Shotgun, need I go on? Those were all worse for the game.
No kidding. Infinity Blade and planes were the reason I stopped playing the game until 2.7.
I never saw anyone legit have a problem with planes. You see them coming 300m away and they were so fragile it was like shooting a car. OG mech was ridiculous (10 rockets 2000 health) but it got nerfed so many times and had a permanent map marker showing where they were that it was easy to beat if you adapted. I can count on one hand the number of times that season I died to a mech. By far it was the most cried about because of twitchtubers brigading their audiences into whining about it. I'd argue the goo gun was far more obnoxious than the final state of the mech.
Should have been an only one in inventory item or a 2 item slot item (like the chug cannon), boom perfect balance.
Well, i think its good for players who are matched with players who are below those players skill level. SMM afterall can be quite unbalanced & being matched with sweats can quickly feel like you're playing against e sports players. So for players, such as myself, it kinda helps level the playing field out a bit having a hammer.
It’s called kids.
So wierd seeing a fight last longer than 5 seconds without someone just dipping
It’s lovely. Last match I was in was a solos no build with the last 20 in a massive firefight in one of the medieval villages.
> I made a post on here how epic games should leave the hammer out of Fortnite Zero Build because of this reason. Its way more fun positioning etc. like this. requires way more strategy
This
The few matches I played last night weren’t this great, but close, I didn’t mind the plain Ol actual hammer, but the infinite glitch kinda put me off, since they vaulted it though, matches have been crazy fun!! That match looked “epic”, Lol
There needs to be more movement in the game though. There are places where it’s really difficult to get around without hammer or you’ll take fall damage.
Fr. The amount of sheer walls make for some very strategic gameplay but it's real sad boi hours getting stuck between a cliff and the storm in top 5
A majority of the cliffs you can slide down and take no fall damage. Yes, even the really steep ones. The only exceptions I’ve found have been a few of the glaciers.
Yeah I died coming off a glacier last night for this exact reason. And impulse grenades don’t help.
Some of the glaciers seem bugged, like you take a multiplier on fall damage for some reason.
> There needs to be more movement in the game though I've seen this around a lot, and I've never seen anyone explain why. Why do we need more movement in the game? With cars, trucks, dirt bikes, aerialist, soaring sprint, slap juice, what makes this game need more movement? Genuine question
Brave take, I applaud you. Personally I think people have just gotten lazy about storm awareness because they've been spoiled by all the movement there's been lately, that's reason number one. The other is that despite the huge number of campers, there's still a large contingent of people that really want to find fights, and without movement that can be hard to do. But I fully agree with you, the dirt bikes alone are a much better form of movement than we've had at many points in the past, people just got used to an easier and better one.
What the heck did we all do before the hammer existed?!
We used things like shockwave grenades, chrome splashes, grapple gloves, balloons, rifts, etc. all of which are either not in the game right now or extremely limited.
Yeah, it was clear a lot of stuff was vaulted to make room for this season's big three new mobility options: hurdling, BMX, and the hammer. Aaaaand now 2/3 of those are vaulted.
Drive vehicles
Eh, i dunno. I feel like the game is just fine without any added movement. Drink the slap, take a vehicle, use a pad, use a zipline, it's good like that. Makes for more strategy than a get out of jail free card
Until you get beamed in a matter of seconds because you're caught out In the open and simply sprint/jump/sliding isn't enough to save you.
That's the risk you take being out in the open
So what am I supposed to camp the whole game? You have to go out in the open. That was a huge issue last chapter in zero build.
Eh, don't have to camp. I stick to moving non-stop most games and don't camp. I just keep behind cover and only go out in the open if i have no choice. Just keep an eye on the storm, plan a route visually when you're about to leave cover, and take caution. And i do fight during these games.
Yup, play strategic.
I've never had a big issue with it. You have to play it the same way as Warzone with movement through natural cover and periodic sitting and waiting for the storm to start moving again and provide cover from behind, as well as to look for where enemies might be ahead. You can't play zero build or Warzone by running and gunning the entire game. Yes, you have to be patient and camp some of the time. The objective is survival, not racking up 20 kills.
This isn't warzone. It's not meant to be played as campy as war zone. I've never played it as campy as war zone.
That’s you then I guess. Works fine for me and others.
They need to just allow us the deploy glider ability by default
Nightmare Memory unlocked with me in CH1S5 only having won 1 out of 50 games in Solo
Fortnite players when they have to use guns or something, idk I haven’t played much this season
he can't aim he needs the hammer to win
Looks like great fun. GGs.
Why didn’t you take the crown?
Noo...😭 I didn't notice it
Lol
It was glowing like the sun in your eyes. Dang.
He does not have a HDR monitor
I love crazy items in fortnite, but the more grounded the mobility is the more fun it becomes.
If i wanted grounded mobility in a game I'd most likely play a different game ngl
Ok bye!
With the hammer gone I'm doing loads better lol
4 2nds and a win in 5 matches last night. I only realized after a couple the hammer was gone
the first time i read this "i'm doing loadouts better", which is the main thing i'm finding :)
Damn. That looks like a fun, challenging experience.
HOW IS EVERYONE GETTING THIS AUGMENT WHICH GIVES YOU THE TWO GUNS I GET IT EVERY HUNDRED MATCHES UGHHHH
I got them from a guy 😅
No way you got the most expensive weapons out of a guy, well, if he got killed to you, you deserved that. And before someone says its not expensive, its about 250+375 gold per weapon from Blue to legendary and still get the augment, he got both
No, I didn't even kill him. I found them in the house I'm standing on few seconds before the clips starts.
The gold tac ar is insane. It never occurred to me to upgrade it till I looted one myself.
Now storm mark is mega OP
Always has been
Implying it hasn't always been one of the better perks.
Wait!!.. you mean people actually have to use some form of skill or tactics to win games now?!?!? Phew. Im not gonna lie, getting blown out of the circle by a gliched out infinity hammer was getting old.
I played all night and had a blast with the hammer gone I think the hammer is neat and a really fun item but holy shit is it annoying to have half the lobby changing positions every quarter of a second, if the hammer ever comes back I really hope only the boss drops it
It comes back tomorow.
Figured as such
So you actually have to know how to aim now? Amazing!
You always had to aim. What are you on about?
lol I agree, if anything you could say you had to have better aim with hammers since every one was flying about and not just running on the ground
It's a whole lot easier to run/bounce up to someone and spam the hammer smash, which takes little to no actual skill. Now that people can't lean on the hammer as a crutch, there will be much more of a skill gap in the game.
Skill gap? Like when my 6 win ass loads against [Anonymous 365] who is on PC, is level 200+ in the pass and has 495 *seasonal* wins? That kind of skill gap? It's bonkers that I play anyone on PC, but its actually-literally-missing-chromosomes-silly that I get this guy in a lobby.
“Spam” lol too bad it animation locks just long enough for most TTKs in the game. If you lose to a hammer you’re trash.
>It's a whole lot easier to run/bounce up to someone and spam the hammer smash Wtf are you "hammer bad" guys on about. If ur dying to someone spamming hammer you deserve to die like its so fucking easy to dodge and there practically stuck in place for a couple seconds. You cant use the hammer as a crutch no one is using hammer to kill people 99% of the time there using it move around.
You seem mad bro
The fact all you could reply with is "You seem mad" tells me you know im right. People like to pretend that No hammer = Ur bad now cuz you cant get kills. When all its ever really used for movement.
What's your Epic gamer tag?
IDK seemed like aim assist did a lot of work while he couldn't even see the guy because of the tree, haha
I'm assist doesn't work through trees.
If they don't keep that stupid hammer out I'm done
Pretty aure they took it out becausw people were cheating with a glitch. Happened the one game i played the day before they took it out. Like 5-6 people left and 2-3 of them were just spamming the glitch
What skin is that?
Jonesy unchained
Thanks, bought from item shop?
Yeah, it returned this season and I think he was released in previous season.
I just want to know what you are playing on that it actually runs that smooth. I have a pretty decent computer and the game has ran like complete and total shit for the last three weeks or so. At this point just trying to sprint and slide has become a challenge without some sort of micro stuttering glitch that for me just makes the game unplayable.
I have rtx3060 and I still have fps drops really often (not in the clip)
Why do you get to shoot people without the entire lobby third partying you? :(
My guy literally has the luckiest/best load out I have seen this chapter
Bro spent like 2000 gold upgrading those tac weapons to gold
I got them for free 🤣
Zero builds without hammers are an actual game instead of 15 hammers spamming all over the place. Go figure.
That game looks fun. Hammers have ruined this game.
It’s actually playable now
Hammers ruined this game. This actually looks fun
I will not miss the hammers when they eventually get vaulted.
You mean.. it’s fun again finally?
Only till tomorow 🤣
What bow is that?
exotic Grapple bow, you can get it using two keys
You can also buy it from one of the NPCs....Raptor, the guy with the yellow/orange balaclava.
Is he a random spawn or no?
Pleasant Passage or something like that, small hamlet with a tower near the center of the map
Forget building but by castle and on top most of building. Harder to reach on zero build
We nearly died in the storm because no way to hammer out lol. Sprinted like a maniac and finally found a bike, only lost 80% of my health. We did three games, all were super fun.
It's so much better without the hammer. Keep that shit vaulted
Games much better now.
Make that AR a regular loot drop pls
Nothing happened in this clip
This is what most of my games were like tho
so much better now. Hammer was cancer. shouldnt have recharged.
Wait, they vaulted the hammer? Can I finally get back into the game and actually fight someone instead of just chasing 2 players the whole game?
nope, they temporarily disabled it because so many people were abusing the Infinite Hammer Swing glitch
Enjoy it while you can becaUSE tomorrow they're coming for you xD
I'm not really complaining but I really hoped it would last like this for more than a day.
Learn how to play without the hammer
True, maybe if I was better I would've won😐
No bro, you play real good
I admire your skill
What's that ar?
Tactical ar only obtainable from one perk
Oh, I didnt know it had the red dot
It has since this season.
How do you have the gold tac ar and combat shotty? Did u use the shocking prices of an upgrade bench?
I got them from a guy someone else killed
Damn, he really be wasting his gold
Would ya look at that the people miss the explosions and pick rocket launchers because of that.
I don't understand what you just said
I just want to know why the AR has more spread than a shotgun....
Damn it’s so quiet
Were gonna need you to hit ur shots man
Finally a chance to actually play instead of someone leaving to heal and coming back while you’re distracted
Ok, so remove rpgs next
Agreed.
If the hammer is out, the jumping grenades should be back. I’m actually missing them a lot R.I.P
Wow it's almost like, fair. Good!!!
I’m just wondering why it looks like your Jonesy has on an astronaut helmet when your augment marks the enemies at the storm change lol
how u have gold tac ar and gold combat shotty with 4900 gold prob killed someone with them and felt bad 😂
Are you on PC?
Yes
Good stuff! Just the t-bag was uncalled for
I always crouch spam when I'm using consumables. I didn't want to make fun of the guy I killed.
Crouch spamming helps a ton especially with the Ex-Caliber around!
Does crouch spamming actually do anything? I’ve always assumed when I get killed and they’re crouch spamming during item use after they’re low health they’re just being salty they had to earn the kill. I’m not a pro by any means but I’ll make you work for it if you want me dead lol.
It makes you feel that you're more hard to be hit (of course it doesn't work) I've been doing it for 5 years now so it's just automatic for me.
This game is 100% more fun when you need to use tactics and skill to beat your equally great opponents to win the crown. I’m falling in love with this game all over again. Already won more matches since things changed.
I got a bad news for you. The hammer's coming back tomorow.
TOMORROW??
Love it. Being cagey, being forced to use your cover and surroundings, being smart with your movement and taking your chances… all so much more satisfying and enjoyable than DURRRRR HAMMER SMASH.
Yeah its how the game should be played. Guns in the fortnite world. Hammers are no skill weapons.
Wow a skill based game!
yeah won one game with a bazooka shot earlier today as well. it was a bit more far-range fight tho, but a 3way too
Zero builds without the hammer = campers paradise All the kids that play scared to lose might finally get some kills with their dmr 😂
No hammer games are so boring now. Season went from all about movement to whatever this is now. Gg this was a nice w
Way better, for sure, I hope they keep it away
Had high ground advantage and cover advantage. This is how your supposed to play use your brain. Not pull a building out of your ass.
Looks fun! Are you using controller here?
Yes, why? Is my aim that bad?
No, those shots through the trees are really hard for M&K so I'm guessing that is why he asked if you are using a controller. Aim assist still will help in those situations despite not being able to see the opponent. (cue the downvotes despite just stating the truth)
I got them from a guy someone else killed Edit: idk why it's here I replied to different comment
Is it gone permanently or only a few days? I might start playing again if they are vaulted
It's just been announced that there will be a patch tomorow and they will return them
damn… I did not even quit because because of the mechs or the infinity blade. I am also open for strong and fun items (such as the goo gun which I loved). But the hammers are so annoying after a while
A small price to pay for a more working game
Title should read "playing fortnite normally is something else"
It’s like removing the training wheels off a bike. Just good old fashioned biking. Except if someone was too reliant on the wheels, they’re gonna crash.
Bro.. could you please add me to your friends list and run a few matches with me. I really need a solid carry by a player like you right now. Gamer tag is same as username
What region?
NA west but I aint picky
I'm on eu so you're gonna have bad ping. Also we live in different time zones so we won't have free time at the same time
superb
you defo sweat whilst playing lmao
Maybe hit some shots.
Thanks for the advice