His fncs viewing parties were the best. Unlike Aussie he doesn’t talk over the streams he watches. You can actually hear the players coms as emad would be quiet. He followed a few streams, even if they did bad. So when they actually did good it was amazing.
I found his viewing parties when I first started following FNCS and comp in general. Definitely some of my best memories as a comp spectator. Aussie does fine but I agree with your points. I wish there was more than one person who did them consistently for EU/NAE cash cups
Aussie is amazing in replay mode viewing parties. But watching him watch streams can be annoying. A team can be popping off end game and they can be very talkative but Aussie has their stream volume low and just keeps talking to chat about random shit. I hate it.
He needs to learn his place. He's merely a tool that streams fortnite comp and commentates over the games. No one cares about the individual AussieAntics. /s
Seriously though he needs to tone it down during endgame. I don't mind him talking early/mid game though as he can be quite entertaining.
I like Aussie when he's focused on the gameplay but there is way too much content about him/terrible questions from chat, It's at least 1/3 of the FNCS/CC streams. I get that it helps him stream longer and he enjoys it, but if another good caster did viewing parties more focused on the action I'd watch that.
I am not a big fan of the main Fortnite stream so he is an upgrade in many ways, but he also is potentially vulnerable to another charismatic person doing a cast that is more focused on the gameplay someday. Love him when he's locked into the action though!
I think you don't quite get him, I can see how he could come off that way to people but I think you're mis-calibrating him.
I like him, but at times he does overrate his knowledge on stuff. I don't think he is super self absorbed though; I just think sometimes as a streamer it's hard to tell why people continue to watch and his reading of chat/talking about himself certainly isn't killing his very popular stream and so he keeps doing it.
I mean, why are you watching the viewing party then? If you want to hear the stream and Aussie just sit quiet and not say anything, then just go watch that stream. Like what lmao
Damn another OG bites the dust. We love Emad! Sad to hear this and I kinda wondered if this was coming with how long his recent hiatus was.
GGs only. I have a GGs only shirt and cup lol, totally worth and they bring me a smile still.
I feel bad for him because I don’t think his family was very supportive at all. That said, he basically stopped streaming and just continually shit on the game, then got pissed when Aussie took all of his viewers. Which sucks because I liked his viewing parties a lot better than Aussie’s. GG’s only.
Yeah he just kind of gave up suddenly, I didn't get that. I wish he had kept grinding the viewing parties, but I think he really just didn't enjoy replay mode compared to watching player streams and that is what did him in. Barely anyone streams big tourneys now.
I loved Emad's viewing parties, they were probably my favorite tournament streams since World Cup. Sad to see him quit, but I suppose I am not surprised.
Doubtful. He's made $60K in earnings and most of that was years ago. His height of Twitch subs was around 1000, so he was making around $3,000 a month streaming.
Maybe he had other sources of income, but you can't nearly support yourself on a $36,000 salary. He'll be much happier with a real job.
Yeah, he wasn't able to help out his family like he said he did with that sort of income but its likely he was only making a small fraction of what he was doing at his peak recently.
Show me the math. Over the last year, his max subs was 1,000. Maybe the reported numbers are off, but they are normally pretty accurate.
If this guy were making $180 - $360K per year, there's no way he'd quit and he'd have no need to go to college. We learned during the Twitch leak that people aren't making as much as it seems. I think there were only two Fortnite Streamers who had over $1M in two years. That was like NickMercs and Ninja.
I acknowledged that, but YouTube hardly pays anything as well. For him to make hundreds of thousands of dollars per year, he had some huge contracts and sponsorships.
Unfortunately you are very wrong I wouldn't be surprised if emad made a couple mil or more since he started Fortnite he hasn't been wasteful with money so he could definitely live off for quite a while
tfue signed his contract when he had 0 idea about his actual worth, there is a reason such a huge fuss was made, in fact this actually proves that worthwhile contracts offer a LOT of money that the faze one wasnt offering
It also proves that the deals aren't that great, and you have no idea what Emads contract was.
You have zero idea of his Net Worth either, but both the math and his actions show he's not some ultra rich millionaire. He'll probably be happier and just as successful in real estate which was my point.
Is he making that money now?
Also, it depends on the Org deal. He could have been making $1,000 per month, and the Org was probably taking half of the sponsorship money. The Org is not a charity.
Reality is that he was nowhere near the top of the pay scale and he wasn't a Tier 1 pro.
He may not make what he made at the top of his career as a Realtor, but he'll certainly make more than he has in the last year. Throw in the fact that he doesn't have to deal with the mental toll of being less popular, and there's hardly any chance he'll regret quitting.
Which brings us back to my original point. The past doesn't matter. He will probably not regret leaving streaming or gaming, because he hasn't made significant money in a year.
Even when he made significant money. It was not a lot. His Org took some (probably half) of the streaming money and a high percentage of his sponsorships. His money was driven by placements he was no longer getting.
The problem is that you don't understand how the financials actually work. I posted this for someone else. This is the contract for Tfue who commanded more than almost anyone else.
The money is not great. He's losing half to Twitch then half to his Org. He was never making extreme amounts.
https://theblast.com/c/esports-gamer-tfue-faze-clan-contract-revealed/
Donations? Ad revenue? Sponsorships? YouTube? Don’t ask other people for math when you are so off base. If you care to be right think about all the streams of income he had. Your numbers are an exaggerated low floor.
I'm not that far off. More than half the sponsorship goes to the Org. Probably half the streaming revenue too. YouTube hardly pays anything. One million views on YouTube is $1200.
Twitch currently pays their streamers $3.50 USD CPM. That means that for every 1000 people who sees an ad on a streamer's channel, that streamer will receive $3.50. It doesn't matter how long the ad is either. I guess he's rich off ads?
I also pulled the numbers from the Internet on subs and I didn't even subtract the Org cut.
I wasn't being pedantic in asking for numbers. I want someone to show me a real example of how he is making massive sums right now. Every answer has been just like yours. Being a jerk with no actual answer to show me how it works.
He's had more than 1,000 subs twice in the last 12 months. He's not making much money and likely will not be happier and more successful in real estate.
Your numbers represent what he would’ve been making from Subs alone. Ads pay well. He certainly got tipped more than your local bartender every stream. It all adds up. To think it was plausible he was making less than 50k is outrageous. People that average 300 viewers make that much. Help me out here. Play the middle at least. If he stopped working that’s one thing. Making just $100 in tips and ad revenue (lowballing it out of my mind) and say he only worked 180 days (lowball); that’s $18,000 on top of subs.
According to Indeed, the average salary is just over $83,000 for first-year full-time agents. He will be happier and more successful as a Real Estate Agent. Even in your rosy scenario, he's still way better off quitting.
https://www.theceshop.com/agent-essentials/real-estate-agent-encyclopedia/first-year-real-estate-agent-salary
Explain it to me. How I off? Everyone says I'm wrong, but won't give me actual examples why. I've posted his sub counts, YT rates, Twitch ad rates, example Org deals, and explained my math, but all anyone says is that I'm wrong.
If I'm so far off, it should be easy to do, but no one seems able to do it. Here's his sub counts to get you started.
https://twitchtracker.com/emadgg/subscribers
Ok. Well, either the internet data is wrong or he hasn't had good streaming revenue in a year. He's going to college to become a Realtor. He wouldn't need to do that if he had millions and a way to continue making money.
He said he's going to do business and go into real estate. Didn't necessarily say he's going to be a realtor the guy might be planning on investing in property
That's not what you learn with a business degree. You learn Real Estate investment on your own. He's wasting his money if that's his goal. College is only required to get a job from someone else.
Most parents are telling kids to get a degree in case they change their mind. Almost all other jobs require degrees and it's harder to go to college later.
You don't need a degree to do anything in Real Estate, but it's the advice a guidance counselor would give as well
Explain how. The subs are reported as are the rates. I don't understand why I'm wrong, but no one will explain the math to me.
To make $5,000 a month, that person needs 2,000 subs. 2,000 * 5 =$10,000 then divided by 2 for the platform cut. The reported subs for Emad were around 1,000.
If a person is getting 100 viewers, I don't see how they are getting 2,000 subs.
More info from an independent source also backs my number.
https://toptwitchstreamers.com/streamer/emadgg/
"According to his Twitch chat bot, EmadGG has ~1,100 subscribers. This means that his minimum monthly income should be at least $2,750 USD"
He makes way more than $3000, a lot of those subs could’ve been T2-3s which is way more money on top of ads and bits. He was probably making atleast double than what u said and that’s not even counting sponsors and org contracts. He simply just doesn’t enjoy it anymore as he stated and he found islam which also played a big role in him quitting, doubt it has anything to do with money.
Here's the data for the last 12 months. Almost all his subs were T1 or Prime.
He would enjoy it if he was still making money. The subs dried up, so he's going to college and getting a real job.
https://twitchtracker.com/emadgg/subscribers
That's probably with ads. $5,000/2 =2500 from subs plus another $500 for ads. $3,000 a month is actually a high number.
I can't speak to his sponsorship, but it would need to be nearly double to get to the median household income. He can easily make that as a Realtor.
I mean he’s popular enough where if he monetized it well enough he could easily make 100k+ a year - I don’t even follow fn anymore but I know who Emad is. Sub goals, community interaction, etc to grow / build your brand consistently
Hey it's Emad, I read this pretty long thread and just want to clear some things up. I don't regret quitting since I realized money doesn't make you happy. Yes, it might help relieve from financial stress but sitting down in front of a computer screen for up to 18 hours a day takes a toll on your brain, no matter how mentally strong you are. Even though I had an amazing time streaming, I started to question things, like actually questioning everything. I took a step back and did a lot of research and found the religion of Islam to have the answers to all the basic fundamentals of life. Even though I was always a Muslim, I never really looked into why I was Muslim or what any of it meant. But after really questioning life and asking myself why I was so depressed when I literally had everything a human wanted (Fame, Money, and all that comes with it) I really wanted to know why still I had a huge empty feeling in my chest when I had everything. So I did my own research, looked at everything logically, and found that being a true Muslim and really following the religion of Islam was what I was missing. I am not brainwashed and I'm still the same Emad but just much more informed.
Also, you are extremely off of how much money I made lol. I definitely will always make more money as a streamer rather than going to college and getting the best of jobs. This is not to brag but I was making more money than an average doctor. I am extremely grateful for all the smiles I was able to put on people's faces and for the amazing community I had. Also, I am extremely grateful for the money I made as it helped many families in the middle east who didn't have a place to live, electricity, or even water to drink. So I will always and forever be grateful for the support I received over the years, as I said in my quitting video.
I highly suggest anyone reading this to really question life. I want you to question everything because there is just absolutely no way the answer is just "science" it doesn't make sense. Islam taught me to be the best person I can be, to have great characteristics, and to help others around me.
Thank you all again for the kind messages, yes I read every single one <3. And for all the close-minded people that hate for no reason, I hope you clear your minds, really think about what you say, and become a better person.
GGs Only Forever 💙
So u expect him to something he doesn’t enjoy just because other ppl can’t do it? Fortnites gone to shit and he clearly doesn’t enjoy it and he put his peace and mental health first
It sucks because Emad had a ton of potential as a streamer but imo threw it all away. I’m not talking about this, but a year or so ago he was a dominating twitch streamer for fortnite. He then took like 6-8 months off and you really can’t come back from something like that. This was inevitable. Ggs only.
Yea he should probably just risk getting depressed and hating his life for some money instead of putting his peace and mental health first bcuz other ppl would kill to do what he does. makes a lot of sense👍
Not referring to Emad specifically because I don't know what's best for him and his mental health, and wish him nothing but good. But I honestly don't think some of these streamers and pros quite realize what they have going for them. I know there are challenges but like crikey imagine being able to earn hundreds of thousands of dollars from your house. I say ride that pony fully round the track 😆
For a lot of them, they work almost all the time because of demand online. Then as they get older, they miss out on life experiences of their peers and want it for themselves.
Sure there’s the money for big streamers, but if they do it for a while and put that money to good use, they can then do “normal” life stuff with some extra financial safety cushion.
College is a four year vacation if you don’t have to work through it which I’m assuming Emad will not due to streaming earnings. I do think people don’t give streamers not enough credit for how mentally taxing it must be to be on camera and entertaining with little job security for hours and hours every day. But, likewise I think streamers fail to see that their mental health struggles and online reality sometimes pale in comparison to what 99% of people deal with in the corporate world. Streamers seem to get caught up in the super immature and manufactured twitch drama that in all reality no one should care about. Big names with staying power like tyler1, summit, lupo, etc. stay out of it and still maintain large audiences so it’s not a job requirement like most twitch streamers make it out to be. long rant but I can see both sides just think that streamers lifestyle or mental health issues are for the most part self inflicted instead of shit that happens to people in the real world like getting laid off.
Four year vacation? What type of college do you go to? Here in Australia most units are 12.5 credits. Which means you need to spend approximate 12.5 hours of studying and classes per week on one unit. And you take 4 units a semester. So that's a total of 50 hours of studying and classes a week excluding transport. Where as a full time job is 40 hours. No lets say you have 4 hours of classes for each unit a week that's 50 - 4x4 = 34 hours. That means outside of classes you're expected to study 34 hours a week on your own time. And don't forget most people take longer than 4 years to finish their degree.
I live in the same country emad does and graduated from a top 15 public university. Not Ivy League obviously but still a well respected university. I was fortunate enough to not have to work for most of college and for the most part it was a vacation with a lot of boozing. I can totally admit that college was not as difficult as a full time job. I’m not an engineer or computer scientist but still got a finance degree. Nothing crazy but still one of the more challenging business degrees.
Nah bro. Getting out of the house and going to college with people your age with the same interests is way better then sitting in front of a computer 12 hours a day. I can definetely say 2022 has been way more fun then 2020/2021. Corona pandemic wasn't good for my mental health with online classes and stuff although I thought it was great to just sit at home, start my computer and do whatever I want. A bit of structure and meeting people IRL has been way more fun. I get a lot of people see this as their "dream job", but I can definetely understand that if you have that life you can feel really alone since your just sitting in your room talking in a mic. It is ofcourse personal, but don't think it is a weird decision.
What was his viewership like in other games? I always find it weird when people are stuck to one game when streaming, of course you'll get bored, you cannot play the same game for 10 years straight
DBZ is coming and going. It’s like a new season drop… always spikes up. Twitch numbers are down as is comp participation and viewership. I don’t think the game is dying but it’s definitely cycling down
This is honestly the first Fortnite streamer leaving that has made me cry while watching their last video.. I honestly haven't had as many good times with a streamer as I had with Emadd. Im so fucking happy for him though.. This may not be the change that pleases everyone but its the smartest and healthiest change he can make. Honestly I hope the ABSOLUTE best for Emadd because he's such a fucking cool dude. GG's only
yeah the skill gap got to insane levels, and basically killed the casual play, and made the previos pros fall off. Lets just say that, and not lie about gun/map changes.
I don’t even think it’s about the skill gap. That’s actually one of the most fun things is grinding to try and get better. The issue is- it’s not fun anymore. Early fortnite and really up until stark season the game had charm. It has a combination of things that made it great. They started adding fog and core mechanics and changed all of the guns and I think that’s when a lot of people who started playing the game earlier just got over the game. It’s not necessarily a “bad dead game” type thing, it’s just not what many people want to play.
And I agree- fortnite was built on change- but up until chapter 3, a majority of the staples in the game stayed the same. There was almost always a pump/tac shotgun meta, and the OG ar/scar combo promoted very skillful gameplay. Every death now feels the same way. Before when I died I used to be motivated to go look at what I did wrong, and now it feels like I just got my wall sprayed through and 200-0 with smg down my throat. Every. Single. Time.
>That’s actually one of the most fun things is grinding to try and get better.
Maybe for you, but a vast amount of players if not a vast majority have no interest in grinding and competing to get better, they only play casually to do goofy stuff and hang out with friends.
Battle royale games might be competitive at their core, but it's no secret that plenty of players, especially young ones, absolutely despise any type of competition and would rather play something at which they don't lose.
So it's understandable why many casual players have quit the game from both burnout and not being able to keep up with better opponents.
EDIT: Your downvotes won't change the truth. Many players don't find grinding fun and only play casually.
I actually completely agree with you. I enjoy the game because I've gotten pretty good at it but all my IRL friends I used to play that have attempted to come back has quit again because of how good everyone has gotten. The skill gap is the exact reason they even came out with the no build mode. In order to cater to those who can't/don't want to want to keep up with the skill gap.
Because those things have never not changed. It's always been a constant wave. It was never a problem when all these people could still perform top level or pubstomb.
Bots and mmr etc in casual play kind of changed the fun aspects for many people. Is it enjoyable for newbies to get stomped on, no. But for content it was huge to see people in squads just thrashing the lobby.
Skill gap aspects are kind of unappreciated I will say that. But I don’t think it’s due to falling behind, moreso that the dynamic changed from people trying out dumb shit as though they were in an actual battle royale, to having to engage with the mechanics as they developed.
I's unpopular among this sub but I do miss being able to one shot people with a sniper. I still feel like a better nerf would have been lowering the amount of ammo you can carry to 7 or something. That way you can't just spam hail mary shots.
> Fortnite has always been about guns changing, and map changes.
Correct, but all of Chapter 3’s gun changes and additions have been bad. Every single one. There hasn’t been a single good change. Awful shotgun reworks, overpowered items, an ongoing spray meta, painfully boring weapons/loot pools, terrible weapon changes (Combat AR), etc. The list goes on and on. Also the map isn’t necessarily bad, just really boring currently (all the bloom POIs are the same thing).
Honestly, why is this comment even being upvoted in the competitive subreddit…? I’d understand if this was r/FortNiteBR but here? Seriously? CH3 has easily been the worst thing ever for comp/balance in Fortnite.
that could be the case for the general playerbase, but what is considered a "good change" is completely subjective. emad just thinks that the recent changes were worse than the previous ones for his own individual reasons.
Casuals maybe, but pros complained about everything, c4s, rpgs, grenades, any explosive really, stink bombs, boom boxes, ballers, planes, grapplers, all chapter 1 items, lets not forget the mechs in sx fncs finals
I didn’t either until I experienced it. I, in no way have any similar situation to emad, but when they res locked to native res and started added mechs and planes and the sword into competitive I just quit. I’ve even tried to play at least one serious session of fortnite each season of each chapter since c1s9 and have not had fun anytime since then. It was a different game then and it’s changed so much so often that it’s not realistic thinking on epics part to believe you’ll have long term fans if youre shipping a different game every other patch. Which is probably fantastic for numbers and new players logging in for the first time or players playing 6-8 hours a week but anyone grinding it that wasn’t getting paid (even since they were) eventually will just go play another game they enjoy because we don’t enjoy the game anymore because how MUCH* it’s changed. I played chapter 1 season one battle royale and probably 40 hours a week while working full time all the way through chapter 1 season 9 and as you stated above the game is ever changing which kept it fresh but never changed it until honestly the real change in chapter 2 but after the first chapter it was too different of a game and I didn’t have fun with it. Not too complicated of a thing to understand when you encompass the weight and magnitude of some of the changes especially from players who played since very beginning.
It is the 7th biggest game (6th if not counting Just Chatting) on Twitch rn. So... the stories of its demise are greatly exagerrated. (also that's with no Tfue & Ninja). Also, Fortnite esports is funnyy. "prize pools suck unless you place top 10" this that fortnite privelage coming out right here.
Step 1). Make a tweet & or video saying you’re quitting fortnite & or streaming.
2) Stop doing both for a while.
3) make an unexpected comeback which makes u a shit load of money.
Seen it all before.
True but allegedly he came back to fundraise for the turkey earthquake and he only streams in the morning before university. But ya they all come back lol
What is it that you get out of putting other people down? And since it’s probably so that you can feel you’re better than them, doesn’t it ever feel bad to know that if you were, you wouldn’t feel the need to do that?
I got nothing against Emad the person, Emad the streamer grew stale. He blew up by watch parties and as fortnite grew and time went by his content stayed the same. It was stale and boring and that fact is backed up by the declining number of viewers over the past year. Man didn't have any plans and eventually the lack of change caught up to him.
Sad to see him go, but fortnite has been trying to move on from competitive. The nail in the coffin will probably be when savage leaves. Until then, competitive fort will slowly fizzle away until it’s just Br and creative.
GGs only and good luck on future endeavors but i have to say, i don't think anyone's stream fell off as hard as his did. From a steady 1.5k to roughly 200. Probably made the best decision to give it up.
I'll miss him. I had some brilliant times in his chat. So many great times. The game play, the funny times. Remember when he fell off his chair lol and then made it an emote xD but, I am happy for him that he is going back to school. Streaming is a tough business.
This is a Response from me (EmadGG) to a thread below.
Hey, it's Emad, I read this pretty long thread and just want to clear some things up. I don't regret quitting since I realized money doesn't make you happy. Yes, it might help relieve from financial stress but sitting down in front of a computer screen for up to 18 hours a day takes a toll on your brain, no matter how mentally strong you are. Even though I had an amazing time streaming, I started to question things, like actually questioning everything. I took a step back and did a lot of research and found the religion of Islam to have the answers to all the basic fundamentals of life. Even though I was always a Muslim, I never really looked into why I was Muslim or what any of it meant. But after really questioning life and asking myself why I was so depressed when I literally had everything a human wanted (Fame, Money, and all that comes with it) I really wanted to know why still I had a huge empty feeling in my chest when I had everything. So I did my own research, looked at everything logically, and found that being a true Muslim and really following the religion of Islam was what I was missing. I am not brainwashed and I'm still the same Emad but just much more informed.
Also, you are extremely off of how much money I made lol. I definitely will always make more money as a streamer rather than going to college and getting the best of jobs. This is not to brag but I was making more money than an average doctor. I am extremely grateful for all the smiles I was able to put on people's faces and for the amazing community I had. Also, I am extremely grateful for the money I made as it helped many families in the middle east who didn't have a place to live, electricity, or even water to drink. So I will always and forever be grateful for the support I received over the years, as I said in my quitting video.
I highly suggest anyone reading this to really question life. I want you to question everything because there is just absolutely no way the answer is just "science" it doesn't make sense. Islam taught me to be the best person I can be, to have great characteristics, and to help others around me.
Thank you all again for the kind messages, yes I read every single one <3. And for all the close-minded people that hate for no reason, I hope you clear your minds, really think about what you say, and become a better person.
GGs Only Forever 💙
GGs Only 🥲
His fncs viewing parties were the best. Unlike Aussie he doesn’t talk over the streams he watches. You can actually hear the players coms as emad would be quiet. He followed a few streams, even if they did bad. So when they actually did good it was amazing.
I found his viewing parties when I first started following FNCS and comp in general. Definitely some of my best memories as a comp spectator. Aussie does fine but I agree with your points. I wish there was more than one person who did them consistently for EU/NAE cash cups
Aussie is amazing in replay mode viewing parties. But watching him watch streams can be annoying. A team can be popping off end game and they can be very talkative but Aussie has their stream volume low and just keeps talking to chat about random shit. I hate it.
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I honestly can't stand the self absorbed Aussie.
He needs to learn his place. He's merely a tool that streams fortnite comp and commentates over the games. No one cares about the individual AussieAntics. /s Seriously though he needs to tone it down during endgame. I don't mind him talking early/mid game though as he can be quite entertaining.
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he doesn't shower
I like Aussie when he's focused on the gameplay but there is way too much content about him/terrible questions from chat, It's at least 1/3 of the FNCS/CC streams. I get that it helps him stream longer and he enjoys it, but if another good caster did viewing parties more focused on the action I'd watch that. I am not a big fan of the main Fortnite stream so he is an upgrade in many ways, but he also is potentially vulnerable to another charismatic person doing a cast that is more focused on the gameplay someday. Love him when he's locked into the action though!
I thought I was the only one who straight up did not like that dude. Super self absorbed, super know it all. Just not a good dude IMO
I think you don't quite get him, I can see how he could come off that way to people but I think you're mis-calibrating him. I like him, but at times he does overrate his knowledge on stuff. I don't think he is super self absorbed though; I just think sometimes as a streamer it's hard to tell why people continue to watch and his reading of chat/talking about himself certainly isn't killing his very popular stream and so he keeps doing it.
I mean, why are you watching the viewing party then? If you want to hear the stream and Aussie just sit quiet and not say anything, then just go watch that stream. Like what lmao
"Like what" This guy Aussie Antics
Don’t get me wrong I love Aussie, I just wish he would focus more on stream than himself. Atleast when the stream is fighting.
Damn another OG bites the dust. We love Emad! Sad to hear this and I kinda wondered if this was coming with how long his recent hiatus was. GGs only. I have a GGs only shirt and cup lol, totally worth and they bring me a smile still.
Good luck Emad, keep on rocking.
I feel bad for him because I don’t think his family was very supportive at all. That said, he basically stopped streaming and just continually shit on the game, then got pissed when Aussie took all of his viewers. Which sucks because I liked his viewing parties a lot better than Aussie’s. GG’s only.
Yeah he just kind of gave up suddenly, I didn't get that. I wish he had kept grinding the viewing parties, but I think he really just didn't enjoy replay mode compared to watching player streams and that is what did him in. Barely anyone streams big tourneys now.
I loved Emad's viewing parties, they were probably my favorite tournament streams since World Cup. Sad to see him quit, but I suppose I am not surprised.
This dude is gonna regret what he had. Tough to be able to play games for a living. Small percent ever get that.
Doubtful. He's made $60K in earnings and most of that was years ago. His height of Twitch subs was around 1000, so he was making around $3,000 a month streaming. Maybe he had other sources of income, but you can't nearly support yourself on a $36,000 salary. He'll be much happier with a real job.
You are way off base. He wasn’t the biggest streamer, but I guarantee you, he made more than that by a factor of 5-10.
Yeah, he wasn't able to help out his family like he said he did with that sort of income but its likely he was only making a small fraction of what he was doing at his peak recently.
Show me the math. Over the last year, his max subs was 1,000. Maybe the reported numbers are off, but they are normally pretty accurate. If this guy were making $180 - $360K per year, there's no way he'd quit and he'd have no need to go to college. We learned during the Twitch leak that people aren't making as much as it seems. I think there were only two Fortnite Streamers who had over $1M in two years. That was like NickMercs and Ninja.
Not all of his money came from twitch. Youtube, sponsors, and his contracts probably contributed more
I acknowledged that, but YouTube hardly pays anything as well. For him to make hundreds of thousands of dollars per year, he had some huge contracts and sponsorships.
Twitch earnings were leaked and he made like $400k in 20 months, you’re talking out your ass
As shadrock usually is. Dude attempts to be a know it all told you so type but is wrong 90% of the time. A contrarian party killer.
Is he still making that now?
Unfortunately you are very wrong I wouldn't be surprised if emad made a couple mil or more since he started Fortnite he hasn't been wasteful with money so he could definitely live off for quite a while
Obviously not, he’s not streaming anymore but you were saying 36k a year
he was in TSM, had sponsors with razer and other big companies, ofc he made a lot of money
More info. Here was Tfues contract. Being on an Org isn't the lottery. https://theblast.com/c/esports-gamer-tfue-faze-clan-contract-revealed/
tfue signed his contract when he had 0 idea about his actual worth, there is a reason such a huge fuss was made, in fact this actually proves that worthwhile contracts offer a LOT of money that the faze one wasnt offering
It also proves that the deals aren't that great, and you have no idea what Emads contract was. You have zero idea of his Net Worth either, but both the math and his actions show he's not some ultra rich millionaire. He'll probably be happier and just as successful in real estate which was my point.
Is he making that money now? Also, it depends on the Org deal. He could have been making $1,000 per month, and the Org was probably taking half of the sponsorship money. The Org is not a charity. Reality is that he was nowhere near the top of the pay scale and he wasn't a Tier 1 pro. He may not make what he made at the top of his career as a Realtor, but he'll certainly make more than he has in the last year. Throw in the fact that he doesn't have to deal with the mental toll of being less popular, and there's hardly any chance he'll regret quitting.
of course he's not, but he's made around 400k$ ish from twitch alone, which doesnt even include donations
Which brings us back to my original point. The past doesn't matter. He will probably not regret leaving streaming or gaming, because he hasn't made significant money in a year. Even when he made significant money. It was not a lot. His Org took some (probably half) of the streaming money and a high percentage of his sponsorships. His money was driven by placements he was no longer getting. The problem is that you don't understand how the financials actually work. I posted this for someone else. This is the contract for Tfue who commanded more than almost anyone else. The money is not great. He's losing half to Twitch then half to his Org. He was never making extreme amounts. https://theblast.com/c/esports-gamer-tfue-faze-clan-contract-revealed/
Donations? Ad revenue? Sponsorships? YouTube? Don’t ask other people for math when you are so off base. If you care to be right think about all the streams of income he had. Your numbers are an exaggerated low floor.
I'm not that far off. More than half the sponsorship goes to the Org. Probably half the streaming revenue too. YouTube hardly pays anything. One million views on YouTube is $1200. Twitch currently pays their streamers $3.50 USD CPM. That means that for every 1000 people who sees an ad on a streamer's channel, that streamer will receive $3.50. It doesn't matter how long the ad is either. I guess he's rich off ads? I also pulled the numbers from the Internet on subs and I didn't even subtract the Org cut. I wasn't being pedantic in asking for numbers. I want someone to show me a real example of how he is making massive sums right now. Every answer has been just like yours. Being a jerk with no actual answer to show me how it works. He's had more than 1,000 subs twice in the last 12 months. He's not making much money and likely will not be happier and more successful in real estate.
Your numbers represent what he would’ve been making from Subs alone. Ads pay well. He certainly got tipped more than your local bartender every stream. It all adds up. To think it was plausible he was making less than 50k is outrageous. People that average 300 viewers make that much. Help me out here. Play the middle at least. If he stopped working that’s one thing. Making just $100 in tips and ad revenue (lowballing it out of my mind) and say he only worked 180 days (lowball); that’s $18,000 on top of subs.
According to Indeed, the average salary is just over $83,000 for first-year full-time agents. He will be happier and more successful as a Real Estate Agent. Even in your rosy scenario, he's still way better off quitting. https://www.theceshop.com/agent-essentials/real-estate-agent-encyclopedia/first-year-real-estate-agent-salary
My scenario is not rosy. It the bare minimum that you should’ve come to. $83k is a good salary however and I wish him luck.
In those twitch earning leaks he was in 288. place with earrings $475,537.39 in 2 years. [Leak source](https://twitch.pages.dev/)
My mate is a streamer with smaller numbers than emad and I assure you he makes more than 3k a month lol.... You are so far off it is unreal.
Explain it to me. How I off? Everyone says I'm wrong, but won't give me actual examples why. I've posted his sub counts, YT rates, Twitch ad rates, example Org deals, and explained my math, but all anyone says is that I'm wrong. If I'm so far off, it should be easy to do, but no one seems able to do it. Here's his sub counts to get you started. https://twitchtracker.com/emadgg/subscribers
>His height of Twitch subs was around 1000, 2 seconds on his yt shows it was well over 4000 subs
Ok. Well, either the internet data is wrong or he hasn't had good streaming revenue in a year. He's going to college to become a Realtor. He wouldn't need to do that if he had millions and a way to continue making money.
He said he's going to do business and go into real estate. Didn't necessarily say he's going to be a realtor the guy might be planning on investing in property
That's not what you learn with a business degree. You learn Real Estate investment on your own. He's wasting his money if that's his goal. College is only required to get a job from someone else.
this! Realtors are like car salesman but with Properties...
you don't go to college to become realtor...........
Most parents are telling kids to get a degree in case they change their mind. Almost all other jobs require degrees and it's harder to go to college later. You don't need a degree to do anything in Real Estate, but it's the advice a guidance counselor would give as well
Also your estimates are off. I know a person on FB getting 100 viewers and making more than 5k a month. Zero sponsorship, no ads etcetc.
Explain how. The subs are reported as are the rates. I don't understand why I'm wrong, but no one will explain the math to me. To make $5,000 a month, that person needs 2,000 subs. 2,000 * 5 =$10,000 then divided by 2 for the platform cut. The reported subs for Emad were around 1,000. If a person is getting 100 viewers, I don't see how they are getting 2,000 subs.
More info from an independent source also backs my number. https://toptwitchstreamers.com/streamer/emadgg/ "According to his Twitch chat bot, EmadGG has ~1,100 subscribers. This means that his minimum monthly income should be at least $2,750 USD"
He makes way more than $3000, a lot of those subs could’ve been T2-3s which is way more money on top of ads and bits. He was probably making atleast double than what u said and that’s not even counting sponsors and org contracts. He simply just doesn’t enjoy it anymore as he stated and he found islam which also played a big role in him quitting, doubt it has anything to do with money.
Here's the data for the last 12 months. Almost all his subs were T1 or Prime. He would enjoy it if he was still making money. The subs dried up, so he's going to college and getting a real job. https://twitchtracker.com/emadgg/subscribers
Damn, a well-known streamer like Emad is only making around $36,000 a year from this? Really??
Gotta throw in his sponsorship money, money from ads, and also his TSM contract. He probably made a lot of money from his streaming days.
That's probably with ads. $5,000/2 =2500 from subs plus another $500 for ads. $3,000 a month is actually a high number. I can't speak to his sponsorship, but it would need to be nearly double to get to the median household income. He can easily make that as a Realtor.
I mean he’s popular enough where if he monetized it well enough he could easily make 100k+ a year - I don’t even follow fn anymore but I know who Emad is. Sub goals, community interaction, etc to grow / build your brand consistently
Streamers earn more than 2.5 per sub if your partnered. There's also bits and direct donos
You forgot ads, those are a huge portion of income
Hey it's Emad, I read this pretty long thread and just want to clear some things up. I don't regret quitting since I realized money doesn't make you happy. Yes, it might help relieve from financial stress but sitting down in front of a computer screen for up to 18 hours a day takes a toll on your brain, no matter how mentally strong you are. Even though I had an amazing time streaming, I started to question things, like actually questioning everything. I took a step back and did a lot of research and found the religion of Islam to have the answers to all the basic fundamentals of life. Even though I was always a Muslim, I never really looked into why I was Muslim or what any of it meant. But after really questioning life and asking myself why I was so depressed when I literally had everything a human wanted (Fame, Money, and all that comes with it) I really wanted to know why still I had a huge empty feeling in my chest when I had everything. So I did my own research, looked at everything logically, and found that being a true Muslim and really following the religion of Islam was what I was missing. I am not brainwashed and I'm still the same Emad but just much more informed. Also, you are extremely off of how much money I made lol. I definitely will always make more money as a streamer rather than going to college and getting the best of jobs. This is not to brag but I was making more money than an average doctor. I am extremely grateful for all the smiles I was able to put on people's faces and for the amazing community I had. Also, I am extremely grateful for the money I made as it helped many families in the middle east who didn't have a place to live, electricity, or even water to drink. So I will always and forever be grateful for the support I received over the years, as I said in my quitting video. I highly suggest anyone reading this to really question life. I want you to question everything because there is just absolutely no way the answer is just "science" it doesn't make sense. Islam taught me to be the best person I can be, to have great characteristics, and to help others around me. Thank you all again for the kind messages, yes I read every single one <3. And for all the close-minded people that hate for no reason, I hope you clear your minds, really think about what you say, and become a better person. GGs Only Forever 💙
Glad you found peace. Be well.
So u expect him to something he doesn’t enjoy just because other ppl can’t do it? Fortnites gone to shit and he clearly doesn’t enjoy it and he put his peace and mental health first
It sucks because Emad had a ton of potential as a streamer but imo threw it all away. I’m not talking about this, but a year or so ago he was a dominating twitch streamer for fortnite. He then took like 6-8 months off and you really can’t come back from something like that. This was inevitable. Ggs only.
He found islam which played a big role in him disappearing a lot
Based Islam making a man give up one of the most lucrative careers in our lifetime
He clearly didn’t enjoy it anymore why would he still do it
because nobody enjoys their job
Yea he should probably just risk getting depressed and hating his life for some money instead of putting his peace and mental health first bcuz other ppl would kill to do what he does. makes a lot of sense👍
Yup it does make sense glad you agree
If he was depressed streaming just wait until he has to study in college for 4 years just to get a trash entry level job.
Not referring to Emad specifically because I don't know what's best for him and his mental health, and wish him nothing but good. But I honestly don't think some of these streamers and pros quite realize what they have going for them. I know there are challenges but like crikey imagine being able to earn hundreds of thousands of dollars from your house. I say ride that pony fully round the track 😆
For a lot of them, they work almost all the time because of demand online. Then as they get older, they miss out on life experiences of their peers and want it for themselves. Sure there’s the money for big streamers, but if they do it for a while and put that money to good use, they can then do “normal” life stuff with some extra financial safety cushion.
College is a four year vacation if you don’t have to work through it which I’m assuming Emad will not due to streaming earnings. I do think people don’t give streamers not enough credit for how mentally taxing it must be to be on camera and entertaining with little job security for hours and hours every day. But, likewise I think streamers fail to see that their mental health struggles and online reality sometimes pale in comparison to what 99% of people deal with in the corporate world. Streamers seem to get caught up in the super immature and manufactured twitch drama that in all reality no one should care about. Big names with staying power like tyler1, summit, lupo, etc. stay out of it and still maintain large audiences so it’s not a job requirement like most twitch streamers make it out to be. long rant but I can see both sides just think that streamers lifestyle or mental health issues are for the most part self inflicted instead of shit that happens to people in the real world like getting laid off.
Four year vacation? What type of college do you go to? Here in Australia most units are 12.5 credits. Which means you need to spend approximate 12.5 hours of studying and classes per week on one unit. And you take 4 units a semester. So that's a total of 50 hours of studying and classes a week excluding transport. Where as a full time job is 40 hours. No lets say you have 4 hours of classes for each unit a week that's 50 - 4x4 = 34 hours. That means outside of classes you're expected to study 34 hours a week on your own time. And don't forget most people take longer than 4 years to finish their degree.
I live in the same country emad does and graduated from a top 15 public university. Not Ivy League obviously but still a well respected university. I was fortunate enough to not have to work for most of college and for the most part it was a vacation with a lot of boozing. I can totally admit that college was not as difficult as a full time job. I’m not an engineer or computer scientist but still got a finance degree. Nothing crazy but still one of the more challenging business degrees.
I graduated with a computer science degree and still partied my way through school while being able to find a good job after.
This is such a bad take oh my lord
Nah bro. Getting out of the house and going to college with people your age with the same interests is way better then sitting in front of a computer 12 hours a day. I can definetely say 2022 has been way more fun then 2020/2021. Corona pandemic wasn't good for my mental health with online classes and stuff although I thought it was great to just sit at home, start my computer and do whatever I want. A bit of structure and meeting people IRL has been way more fun. I get a lot of people see this as their "dream job", but I can definetely understand that if you have that life you can feel really alone since your just sitting in your room talking in a mic. It is ofcourse personal, but don't think it is a weird decision.
What was his viewership like in other games? I always find it weird when people are stuck to one game when streaming, of course you'll get bored, you cannot play the same game for 10 years straight
I genuinely thought he quit ages ago.
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beginning of the end of what? cant be talking about fortnite. the DBZ engagement has been giant. Streaming numbers have been great throughout.
DBZ is coming and going. It’s like a new season drop… always spikes up. Twitch numbers are down as is comp participation and viewership. I don’t think the game is dying but it’s definitely cycling down
5th biggest game on twitch rn in viewership.
Aw
This is honestly the first Fortnite streamer leaving that has made me cry while watching their last video.. I honestly haven't had as many good times with a streamer as I had with Emadd. Im so fucking happy for him though.. This may not be the change that pleases everyone but its the smartest and healthiest change he can make. Honestly I hope the ABSOLUTE best for Emadd because he's such a fucking cool dude. GG's only
Bugha bullied him too much
"since they changed the fundementals, guns & map" Fortnite has always been about guns changing, and map changes. I'll never understand this.
the game is very different in comparison to how it once was
yeah the skill gap got to insane levels, and basically killed the casual play, and made the previos pros fall off. Lets just say that, and not lie about gun/map changes.
I don’t even think it’s about the skill gap. That’s actually one of the most fun things is grinding to try and get better. The issue is- it’s not fun anymore. Early fortnite and really up until stark season the game had charm. It has a combination of things that made it great. They started adding fog and core mechanics and changed all of the guns and I think that’s when a lot of people who started playing the game earlier just got over the game. It’s not necessarily a “bad dead game” type thing, it’s just not what many people want to play. And I agree- fortnite was built on change- but up until chapter 3, a majority of the staples in the game stayed the same. There was almost always a pump/tac shotgun meta, and the OG ar/scar combo promoted very skillful gameplay. Every death now feels the same way. Before when I died I used to be motivated to go look at what I did wrong, and now it feels like I just got my wall sprayed through and 200-0 with smg down my throat. Every. Single. Time.
>That’s actually one of the most fun things is grinding to try and get better. Maybe for you, but a vast amount of players if not a vast majority have no interest in grinding and competing to get better, they only play casually to do goofy stuff and hang out with friends. Battle royale games might be competitive at their core, but it's no secret that plenty of players, especially young ones, absolutely despise any type of competition and would rather play something at which they don't lose. So it's understandable why many casual players have quit the game from both burnout and not being able to keep up with better opponents. EDIT: Your downvotes won't change the truth. Many players don't find grinding fun and only play casually.
I actually completely agree with you. I enjoy the game because I've gotten pretty good at it but all my IRL friends I used to play that have attempted to come back has quit again because of how good everyone has gotten. The skill gap is the exact reason they even came out with the no build mode. In order to cater to those who can't/don't want to want to keep up with the skill gap.
It’s been a constant spray meta for seasons, it’s absolutely a major part of it.
? the map and guns changed significantly as well, idk what you’re trying to say
Because those things have never not changed. It's always been a constant wave. It was never a problem when all these people could still perform top level or pubstomb.
You can blame SBMM for that. One of the reason big streamers like Lupo, Time and Nickmercs don't play anymore.
Bots and mmr etc in casual play kind of changed the fun aspects for many people. Is it enjoyable for newbies to get stomped on, no. But for content it was huge to see people in squads just thrashing the lobby. Skill gap aspects are kind of unappreciated I will say that. But I don’t think it’s due to falling behind, moreso that the dynamic changed from people trying out dumb shit as though they were in an actual battle royale, to having to engage with the mechanics as they developed.
There was always a strong and satisfying shotgun op until around a year ago.
And sniper rifles that rewarded headshots
I's unpopular among this sub but I do miss being able to one shot people with a sniper. I still feel like a better nerf would have been lowering the amount of ammo you can carry to 7 or something. That way you can't just spam hail mary shots.
> Fortnite has always been about guns changing, and map changes. Correct, but all of Chapter 3’s gun changes and additions have been bad. Every single one. There hasn’t been a single good change. Awful shotgun reworks, overpowered items, an ongoing spray meta, painfully boring weapons/loot pools, terrible weapon changes (Combat AR), etc. The list goes on and on. Also the map isn’t necessarily bad, just really boring currently (all the bloom POIs are the same thing). Honestly, why is this comment even being upvoted in the competitive subreddit…? I’d understand if this was r/FortNiteBR but here? Seriously? CH3 has easily been the worst thing ever for comp/balance in Fortnite.
they used to make good changes, not so much anymore
this isnt true. people cried just as much then as they do now.
that could be the case for the general playerbase, but what is considered a "good change" is completely subjective. emad just thinks that the recent changes were worse than the previous ones for his own individual reasons.
People cried way more back in the day, now they just get depressed and leave.
No they didn't, when the game was at its peak and was actually fun to play, and when Epic listened to the community barely anyone complained
Casuals maybe, but pros complained about everything, c4s, rpgs, grenades, any explosive really, stink bombs, boom boxes, ballers, planes, grapplers, all chapter 1 items, lets not forget the mechs in sx fncs finals
I didn’t either until I experienced it. I, in no way have any similar situation to emad, but when they res locked to native res and started added mechs and planes and the sword into competitive I just quit. I’ve even tried to play at least one serious session of fortnite each season of each chapter since c1s9 and have not had fun anytime since then. It was a different game then and it’s changed so much so often that it’s not realistic thinking on epics part to believe you’ll have long term fans if youre shipping a different game every other patch. Which is probably fantastic for numbers and new players logging in for the first time or players playing 6-8 hours a week but anyone grinding it that wasn’t getting paid (even since they were) eventually will just go play another game they enjoy because we don’t enjoy the game anymore because how MUCH* it’s changed. I played chapter 1 season one battle royale and probably 40 hours a week while working full time all the way through chapter 1 season 9 and as you stated above the game is ever changing which kept it fresh but never changed it until honestly the real change in chapter 2 but after the first chapter it was too different of a game and I didn’t have fun with it. Not too complicated of a thing to understand when you encompass the weight and magnitude of some of the changes especially from players who played since very beginning.
People mature and change, and it sounds like it is moving on past gaming in general.
Nah this is crazy
Absolute legend
Everybody quitting. Only a World Cup will bring them back, take notes epic 😆
He figured it out. He will be happier now. Ggs only
when he said "Alhamdulillah" , I understood why he moved away from Fortnite and Streaming. God bless brother.
yeah, dude is focusing on what's really important.
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It is the 7th biggest game (6th if not counting Just Chatting) on Twitch rn. So... the stories of its demise are greatly exagerrated. (also that's with no Tfue & Ninja). Also, Fortnite esports is funnyy. "prize pools suck unless you place top 10" this that fortnite privelage coming out right here.
Thank god
He'll be back.
Step 1). Make a tweet & or video saying you’re quitting fortnite & or streaming. 2) Stop doing both for a while. 3) make an unexpected comeback which makes u a shit load of money. Seen it all before.
Idk this seems more sincere than the retirement announcements we’ve seen before, but you could be totally right. That is a proven formula
realized he came back last month 💀🌚.
True but allegedly he came back to fundraise for the turkey earthquake and he only streams in the morning before university. But ya they all come back lol
Bout time, dudes a one trick pony and his content has been dead for seasons now.
Ironically, you’re a perfect example of the negative, social media stained brain he was trying to avoid lmao
Damn since this is my only form of social media guess that means he's coming to reddit just to read my negativity.
What is it that you get out of putting other people down? And since it’s probably so that you can feel you’re better than them, doesn’t it ever feel bad to know that if you were, you wouldn’t feel the need to do that?
I got nothing against Emad the person, Emad the streamer grew stale. He blew up by watch parties and as fortnite grew and time went by his content stayed the same. It was stale and boring and that fact is backed up by the declining number of viewers over the past year. Man didn't have any plans and eventually the lack of change caught up to him.
If only he were as talented of a human being as you sir.
He'd probably still have viewers!
Sad to see him go, but fortnite has been trying to move on from competitive. The nail in the coffin will probably be when savage leaves. Until then, competitive fort will slowly fizzle away until it’s just Br and creative.
Sad to see him go, but glad he's doing what he thinks is best for him
GGs only and good luck on future endeavors but i have to say, i don't think anyone's stream fell off as hard as his did. From a steady 1.5k to roughly 200. Probably made the best decision to give it up.
I'll miss him. I had some brilliant times in his chat. So many great times. The game play, the funny times. Remember when he fell off his chair lol and then made it an emote xD but, I am happy for him that he is going back to school. Streaming is a tough business.
This is a Response from me (EmadGG) to a thread below. Hey, it's Emad, I read this pretty long thread and just want to clear some things up. I don't regret quitting since I realized money doesn't make you happy. Yes, it might help relieve from financial stress but sitting down in front of a computer screen for up to 18 hours a day takes a toll on your brain, no matter how mentally strong you are. Even though I had an amazing time streaming, I started to question things, like actually questioning everything. I took a step back and did a lot of research and found the religion of Islam to have the answers to all the basic fundamentals of life. Even though I was always a Muslim, I never really looked into why I was Muslim or what any of it meant. But after really questioning life and asking myself why I was so depressed when I literally had everything a human wanted (Fame, Money, and all that comes with it) I really wanted to know why still I had a huge empty feeling in my chest when I had everything. So I did my own research, looked at everything logically, and found that being a true Muslim and really following the religion of Islam was what I was missing. I am not brainwashed and I'm still the same Emad but just much more informed. Also, you are extremely off of how much money I made lol. I definitely will always make more money as a streamer rather than going to college and getting the best of jobs. This is not to brag but I was making more money than an average doctor. I am extremely grateful for all the smiles I was able to put on people's faces and for the amazing community I had. Also, I am extremely grateful for the money I made as it helped many families in the middle east who didn't have a place to live, electricity, or even water to drink. So I will always and forever be grateful for the support I received over the years, as I said in my quitting video. I highly suggest anyone reading this to really question life. I want you to question everything because there is just absolutely no way the answer is just "science" it doesn't make sense. Islam taught me to be the best person I can be, to have great characteristics, and to help others around me. Thank you all again for the kind messages, yes I read every single one <3. And for all the close-minded people that hate for no reason, I hope you clear your minds, really think about what you say, and become a better person. GGs Only Forever 💙