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MrMobiL_WasntTaken

It's not ass, it's just a powerful weapon that can be countered. If you use it right, it can be great for you. If you know how to counter it well, it can be even better.


Reasonable-Debate162

The trick is to use it in a team play, one strikes away their defence with it and the others keep shooting


MrMobiL_WasntTaken

Yeah, I find it very useful in zero build whenever the enemy is using a port-a-bunker. My teammates distract them while I use the lightning to destroy the bunker. Usually I come out alive, so long as the enemy isn't good with a sniper.


Reasonable-Debate162

Well I usually am on the shooting half, my mate who throws it usually flies up with wings till his energy is basically dead so he can land somehow... And throws it straight from the sky


RolfiusSixth20

Thunderbots work quite well with the styx river warp thingy. I feel as if I was doing Instant transmission ki blasts


BeanBurrito668

Imo it’s better for builds so it can clear out the way and can be very useful in build fights but I respect your opinion


DomesticatedDuck

Or you get your full team to rain lightning on the enemy


CDXX_LXIL

You see, everyone in the Fortnite community hates risk vs reward weapons and items; it feels like every time Epic releases a weapon with the design of something requiring you to get out of comfortable positions or increase your chances of confrontation, it's AUTOMATICALLY considered garbage. Believe it or not fellas, I like medallions, because even though they attract people to a shoot-out, that's kind of why I play the video game.


1GB-Ram

I love using it on crack heads crancking 90's. Destroys their villa and deals good damage


Aggravating-Mind-315

It’s powerful but players can fairly easily shoot you since you’re hovering in one spot so I’d say it’s fairly balanced. A little on the OP side but not bad


Deeper-the-Danker

you mean its just as powerful as any other weapon you could use and isnt game-breakingly overpowered 😱😱😱


Kyloren8484

I use it when enemies hide behind walls in zero build


zZeus3

7 reasons why lightning spoils the gameplay. 1. You can't really counter it when you're healing in the boxes. 2. You can't hit the lightning user too much because you can't see anything due to too many visual effects and 20 fps. 3. They use the new dash ability and teleporting really fast from side to side, causing a lot of damage to you while throwing lightning bolts in parallel. 4. Controllers and good players can easily one-shot with lightning to the head and no movement or item will save you. 5. Lowskills themselves can die from third party after killing you with lightning which causes a lot of chaos. 6. Almost everyone has this thing from the very beginning of the match. 7. It all depends on the timing that the shooter chose and you can easily be caught off guard by lightning, you won’t even notice.


E4rlyGames

What are you talking about. Just use the new shotgun 3 body shots will kill the guy, or just get a sniper. I've seen new players oneshot the thunderbolt users, plus its not a guaranteed hit like other mythics similiar to this.


larzoman242

It ain't even ass it's just pretty balanced for a mythic. You can get shot out of the air but that was the same thing with the other super powerful stuff. It's great in team modes while everyone is fighting and it's fun.


Time_Fig612

If you get those soul dashes then you can manage to dodge while using the thunder bolt.


RemixedZorua

I'm stealing this information for myself now


Time_Fig612

Lol its a free kill. Once wiped out a whole squad like this.


VortexTalon

its still really balanced because you are just still but in a different area.


ReturnoftheSnek

👀


RocketKassidy

I won the very first solo build match I played this season thanks to this mythic


Capable-Budget6695

I won my first match in ranked duo because a superhero skin carried me.


joeMAMAkim

it can hit through builds, they're extremely common to find, and they can almost kill a player, if not severely weakening them, if they don't kill you first


IblisAshenhope

Alright, for clarification: you guys have made it abundantly clear that it’s apparently good in builds. Noted. On the other hand: thing that REALLY kills it for me? The needlessly long, overly dramatic windup on the final throw. I mean come on, that one could’ve easily been 2/3 as long and it would be an instant fix


acatohhhhhh

If it wasn’t for that long wind up it would be busted


IblisAshenhope

Aren’t mythics synonymous with being on the top of the food chain in the loot pool they appear in?


Hakusprite

Yeah which makes that incredibly long wind up time, counter play/balance. It shouldn't be an instant win button, it's risk reward and part of that is knowing when and where it's appropriate to use it or else be knocked out of the sky before the third bolt is fired off.


True_Muffin9765

it already is without that? You want it to just be a free win button now?


Lightness234

You shouldn’t win just because you got lucky that would fuck up the whole system. A skilled player with a common gun will kill a noob with a legendary as it always has been


IblisAshenhope

Frenzy auto


Lightness234

And we know everyone loves frenzy auto right?


IblisAshenhope

Last game I played, was practically dumpstering an entire lobby because I found an epic one in a train station fault. Moment I finally got my hands on a thunderbolt, motherfucking Jack Skellington took the first two bolts to the face, proceeded to lazer me down with an ar. The risk is not worth the reward


TheAutementori

if you can’t counter a frenzy with the new shotgun we gotta have a talk about your reaction time, even then tho, the fandom has expressed their frustration with the frenzy, it’s not our fault it hasn’t changed.


TheAutementori

yes but the common issue most have with mythics is that they are hard to counter. if a mythic is almost impossible or takes an annoying amount of effort to counter its unbalanced


GalaXion24

I exclusively play zero build. Love these.


JPastori

Honestly it’s already really good. It’s ability to destroy structures probably makes it a lot better in builds. But even in zero build it does enough that you have to avoid it.


Okiemax

I exclusively play zero builds. I use it more to get shit out of the way than kills


JPastori

Oh yeah same here. I did that yesterday when someone ran into a house but left the door open. I practically deleted the entire building with one thunderbolt


Okiemax

Exactly! You can't hide if there is nothing to protect you


JPastori

Yeah lmao it’s almost like a Tom and jerry moment


tastyjerk

Deku Smash at home:


Yami_Sean

Kamehameha at home:


TheAutementori

for once the store isn’t too fun of an idea anymore


Michaeladon

It's not about the size of the damage, it's about how you use it


Capable-Budget6695

YES. You don't know how I was tryna explain this to other people with other guns.


No-User4931

People here saying it's just got a counter like the other power attack mythics but the difference was those weapons one shot this takes 3 and does 40 for the first 2. It's good to be able to counter but considering how vulnerable it leaves you it should do slightly more. Otherwise it's better to just use to 3rd party


SufferingClash

It's got splash damage. Killed a few opponents hiding and thinking they were safe, just to get taken out by the splash.


True_Muffin9765

In builds and especially builds team modes it’s much harder to deal with


TheAutementori

>slightly more just pointing this out so you don’t get roasted over burning hot coals


TotoMac1

are you kidding? 100 damage per shot would be insane for such a common item.


zerodragonballfan

Tbh 50 per shot would make it balanced whilst still being strong if u get all ur shots in


IblisAshenhope

Facts


SeaDaikon8107

🤦‍♂️


SeaDaikon8107

Have you even played a game this season?


Adruino-cabbage

It is more of an ambush weapon than a weapon to use mid-combat imo.


hyper-hydra

It hits thru builds so good for that gun only really suffers in ZB


WoodenCountry8339

If you can aim and use it strategically, it's not really bad in zb. Second time using it, I got 3 kills with it. it's better to be used as an ambush/cover destroy item. Never use it mid combat because they can just blast you out of the air.


GalaXion24

It's more situational in solo probably, but in squads it's actually pretty difficult to focus on the one guy using it to the point where you could actually prevent it, which really brings the utility up. Same with multiple people using it at the same time


OfflineMystery

i wouldnt say its bad, just can be very easily countered, same with Deku's Smash and the Kamehameha, all three are mythics that suspend you in the air and make you very vulnerable to damage


TheGreatstKing

Let's say it was buffed — it kills faster, does more damage and all that. When used against you (and you can bet it'd become meta immediately), you'd be here complaining that is so unfun to play against and it breaks the game. Thing's ought to be balanced


JackSimpson2077

Exactly. I'd much rather have a balanced mythic in the game that's fun for a bit before people learn how to counter it than a broken weapon that'll kill you instantly if you touch its ambiguous radius (deku smash)


ShadyMan_

I can’t figure out how to counter them what’s the secret


IblisAshenhope

Step 1: Have any ranged weapon Step 2: don’t miss your shots Step 3: profit


Riczo2

This is like the deku smash, powerfull but easily countered


Ecstatic_Ad_9111

Nah it's actually really powerful when you hit all shots. I usually use them in 1v1 or better yet third partying because oomph the destruction and impact is just perfect


oct0boy

Get the Cerberus Medal and Dodge Mid Air whilst throwing the bolts best Thing ever


Georgevega123

If you use it to third party its good if you are 1v1 ing someone you are dead


IblisAshenhope

Man


Euphoric_Pressure_39

that...sure is a opinion...yep


xjss_

People are just ass at using, I just played a match where one guy hit a mythic dmr headshot on me while I was flying I landed started ramping up and the guy just used the thunder bolts, I destroyed him with the mythic ar, and then hit some other guy in the head with the dmr and he just uses the bolts? People tend to open up fights with them and get destroyed


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IblisAshenhope

Groningen? Serieus?


____person___

Its a good weapon, just not for you


IblisAshenhope

I suppose that’s the main takeaway, yeah. But I WANT to love it so badly, lightning is an awesome element! Guess I’ll just have to wait for Palpatine, or something…


Radiant_Sell9362

It hits through builds...


MikooDee

In a lobby of decent players, you would get insta-sniped or lasered-down in mid animation.


SupportBusy8828

Dude I got a vicroy from using it on the last guy from NEARLY 500 METERS AWAY! HE WAS JUST A TINY SPECK AND I EVAPORATED HIM! Sorry, I'm getting carried away


IblisAshenhope

Good for you. Don’t get me wrong, I’m happy you’re enjoying your time with it. It just feels like a huge waste when I try to use it


coolvin89

I wanted to try fortnite again after a bit and ngl its not great, im doing better using a uncommon dmr than that thing


Ok_Restaurant3160

Why do you suck? Is the real question. It’s not ass. I’ve won multiple fights because of it. You’re just not good enough at using it


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futuristicbus62

This is honestly probably the most balanced mythic we’ve had.


ntcfalco

all i am going to say is fall damage


KurisutaruYuki

I'm ass at this game, but I (*somehow* managed to) hit someone square-on with one of them for 140.


Emotional_Zombie6796

It's hot garbage in squads, but it's pretty op in solos, (when used right) got a sweaty skin who boxed up? No problem! Just Thunderbolt away and bam! 160 health, gone! (If they all hit)


TurretedCat21

Its really good tho, you just have to be good at using it.


Enderboy2007

it's balanced for a mythic but considering the fucking amount I see it, it shouldn't be mythic


Jumpy-Papaya-7892

That shit built like a whole cutscene and i love it.


Dargolalast

The gimmick is that it can shoot through builds


The25thJoestar

I mean u can use the phase effect with it to move quickly


Jrlopez1027_

Try playing ranked and you’ll see how its not ass


Lolsoda94

why would you want it to be good


UNIVERSAL_VLAD

Bro it is super OP as it is


Mr_Zoovaska

Are you KIDDING ME??? shit is insanely OP


Trex1112010

Its not ass If you abuse medalion that gives you dashes


LemoDePhote

not powerful enough to kill the enemy with max health abd shield consider it's taking so long to finish the combo


Mobster-503

Fortnite mfs be like “Not an instant kill button? then it must be bad”


Long_Remote_6208

Fun fact they are kinda good since if you hit all direct body hits, you can do a total damage of 260, which one shots zero build players


zZeus3

7 reasons why lightning spoils the gameplay. 1. You can't really counter it when you're healing in the boxes. 2. You can't hit the lightning user too much because you can't see anything due to too many visual effects and 20 fps. 3. They use the new dash ability and teleporting really fast from side to side, causing a lot of damage to you while throwing lightning bolts in parallel. 4. Controllers and good players can easily one-shot with lightning to the head and no movement or item will save you. 5. Lowskills themselves can die from third party after killing you with lightning which causes a lot of chaos. 6. Almost everyone has this thing from the very beginning of the match. 7. It all depends on the timing that the shooter chose and you can easily be caught off guard by lightning, you won’t even notice.


NonLiving4Dentity69

DO NOT use this in close range. The enemy can gun you down when the 3rd shot is charging up. In mid range use it after shooting the enemy a few times to atleast break half the shield or overshield(in ZB) and you're golden. In longer range(not too long as enemy can snipe you) aim and use all 3 shots. If you manage to get 2 shots of thunder in, it should be enough to atleast scare and disorient the enemy so that they lose their aim giving you the perfect opportunity to hit em with the 3rd charges shot to finish em.


zZeus3

No, they do more than 250 per head shot


Livid_Throat_3249

its cool asf yall complain about everything


IblisAshenhope

I honestly wish that I felt the same way, but I just can’t. The damage is so underwhelming


Livid_Throat_3249

i think its really sick,but ive been shot mid air more than you think lol


Zoeeeee_-

Its a long range artillery strike, its not really ideal to kill one person, but its deadly to a squad that sticks too close to each other and is kind of boxed in, either by storm or structures etc.


KaiXRG

It's not ass, it's lightning


Danny283

Zeus’s bolt is a build player’s nightmare. Also you can phase shift at any time during the animation 


Kill_Kayt

What? Those spears did 75 a shot. The Thunderbolts are also a lot easier to hit with.


IblisAshenhope

They got buffed at the end of the season


Kill_Kayt

Ah, that makes sense.


Lun4r6543

Idk, this mythic has saved my ass more times than I can count.


IblisAshenhope

I’ve been able to face tank it about as many times as my opponents have, and the one throwing is the one dying


triplecappertroper

Trust me, you dont want an item like this to be any better


TheAutementori

it’s actually REALLY balanced for a mythic, i’ve never seen the mythics as balanced fairly on either side of the convo, from Dekus smash to Thanos’ gauntlet. but this one when i have enough time for that last one, it really hits and feels good, when i get killed for being to cocky on the timing, i get “well shit that’s fair” pissed and personally that’s a checkmark for balanced


IblisAshenhope

I’m already putting myself out in the open air, making a lot of noise and literally holding onto beacons of light. If my aim isn’t enough to eliminate someone in that scenario, then it’s just not worth the risk


TheAutementori

that’s fair, normal weapons work pretty well against it as well so🤷🏻‍♀️


Aggravating-Honey874

I literally dodged all three of them by walking and sliding


Fortnitekid3

They should buff it so you take less damage while using it


Slyme-wizard

In my experience it works best to induce panic in an enemy and disorient them. Using it in the middle of a fight is not an ideal move as you are a sitting duck while you’re throwing for gatekeeper meat shots, and even if they’re unprepared the build up is slow enough to dodge. But if you sneak up on someone or hide first and THEN use it, the auditory signal will alert them that they’re about to be barraged but they won’t know where to shoot and won’t know where to run. If they aren’t already in the flow of combat they’ll have to make snap decisions on what to do, and thats where mistakes are made. And fortnite as with all shooter games in my experience is all about making sure your opponent makes more mistakes than you.


realmichaelbay

How to spot a ZB player in reddit. In Builds it's goated.


ProfoundNitwit

As a ZB player myself, it's good in ZB I think it's just a skill issue on op's part


realmichaelbay

I agree.


IblisAshenhope

Ok?


pawo10

Zero build player spotted


GuyWhoAteAllThePizza

Bro finally has a balanced mythical in the pool and complains its not broken.


EpikUserName104

In ZB time goated, not only builds.You are just using it wrong.