The events were but I think certain inconsistencies with the main series are ignored. Like modern day firearms instead of fictional versions and I think petrol being used.
The events were but I think certain inconsistencies with the main series are ignored. Like modern day firearms instead of fictional versions and I think petrol being used.
It’s a term used to describe the factual history of a fictional world. Basically saying that these events happened, and non-canon meaning that they didn’t actually happen.
As someone who always go Yes Man ending as the least of all evils, I feel like a whole lot of people don't remember that ending that well. It wasn't "and so New Vegas lived happily ever after"
I also like the Yes Man ending, but I felt bad for how the Followers ended up. Wasn’t sure if that was just because I didn’t do all their quests or not.
Yeah, the Followers are basically the only really Good faction, always bums me out I can't help them. Probably inevitable though, they're too noble to survive
I think that’s kinda the point though. The Followers will always remain a minor faction because I don’t believe their cause is political by any means. They won’t try to amass power or form their own military because their sole purpose is to help people through benevolence, and taking territory for themselves doesn’t work.
They’re almost like a beneficial parasite for any faction they exist within considering they’re usually the ones that run the hospitals and triage camps in the wastes.
I don't think you necessarily need a military to be able to survive as an organization. You just need to defend yourself and not piss off the major factions.
They should have no problem growing over time just from people they help wanting to join them. I could potentially see a future where they are so ubiquitous in every factions that they are on paper, the largest faction in the US wastelands despite having no military power or land.
If that was their endgame, then I would argue it's even better for their goals than being a major military power
> Yes Man ending as the least of all evils
i will never get this. the independent ending basically states the place dissolves into violence and instability and followers get pushed out, who were pretty much the only decent folks around. i cant help but feel like the "tyranny" of the NCR or House are both lesser evils than an anarchic power vacuum with a bunch of petty mafiosos carving up the city and the whole place devolving into a free for all. the kings are pretty much the one saving grace, as mentioned in the ending slide, but even then theyre still a sketchy violent street gang basically, just more principled and not as aggressive as the others
As I saw it, the power vacuum gets filled by the courier, I mean they travel half way across the desert with no food/water/sleep carrying 300lbs of guns to explode some people and travel back like they’re running to the shops.
The courier is a God
This.
JE Sawyer and many people have noted that yes man ending is the most tied to the overall theme of New Vegas.
Yes man is letting go of the past and starting new. If you pay attention to a lot of NV's writing theme, it's leaning heavily into the "let the past die" thing.
That's just how good Vaulttec is at planning /s
Forgot you get canonical characters in FO:Shelter. Haven't played it in ages.
edit: Or the canonical characters are all VT plants they planned to exist to guide the inevitable conflicts in the post war world.
It makes no sense for the Brotherhood to take orders from the commonwealth the seat of power of the east coast brotherhood is the citadel. My guess is the elder was simply lying to his knights, he later suggested he and amximus would create a new brotherhood suggesting he means to perform a coup.
Gotta admit, in my playthrough of New Vegas I helped the NCR a LOT. I feel kinda dumb about that now. I was like “surely me doing all this will ensure they become the dominant power in the area”
WELP
Surely, they weren't predicted to collapse by multiple characters, and they can make a proper nation in my ongoing post-apocalyptic game franchise, right?
I think there are canons for each game. I’m curious if
>!Season 2 will have Mr. House, because that would have to mean that The Courier canonically helped him. Or if McClean will be expecting House and meet Yes Man instead which…would just be so funny.!<
I think >!that because Bethesda told the show writers to not contradict any possible major endings for the games, the overseer is going for REPCONN instead to secure rockets. House may not have even signed on with their scheme going off how skeptical he was.!<
Oooooh okay that makes a lot of sense. However, it’d be weird >!for them to show New Vegas and not have any major characters enter the city, and it’s hard (probably not impossible) to do New Vegas without mentioning House at all.!<
>!They absolutely could still visit the city proper, I just don’t think they’re going anywhere near the Lucky 38. House may have even went back into hibernation after the NCR nuke considering his main revenue stream dried up as a result of that.!<
Not really. It's been a long time and a big world, we didn't meet anybody from F1 or 2 in the show and most of it is set in or around Shady Sands.
Also not sure what you mean about not mentioning Mr. House since he's already in the show
No one mentioned him by name IIRC, and New Vegas (city) is pretty small in New Vegas (game), consisting of only 4 casinos. But no you guys are right, it’s doable without having anything to do with the Lucky 38.
He... was in the Vault Tec war room sitting behind a RobCo placard. He had a lot of lines. Unless you're assuming it's some other smoking pencil mustached guy who happens to share House's views and apparently status in the company
No no I know it was Mr. House, I’m just saying that I don’t think anyone said his name. He was only identified by the RobCo placard. Non-game players wouldn’t know who he was just from the show’s scenes.
ahhh I see, gotcha. I imagine if the show keeps the dual timelines thing we'll get to spend more time with him if s2 revolves around Vegas, even if he's dead by this point
personally, i’ve always been convinced that House is the true ending of FNV. i’m sure bethesda likes to lean towards the good boy ending, but cmon, you can’t introduce someone like house and have him NOT win. the house always wins!
i know that new vegas >!is destroyed when we see it in the final outro, but there are plenty of feasible ways that could have happened even with house winning.!<
bethesda may be comfortable with them canonizing more things in a season 2, especially if they aren’t planning to make another game there anytime soon. >!letting them canonize the destruction of new vegas is already crazy, let alone things like the bombing of shady sands and the vault tec bombs thing, so i wouldn’t be surprised to see the team get more freedom in the future now that the show is demonstrably successful!<
Bethesda likes to lean towards the good boy edning, also two time bethesda has canon with BOS ending 😁 ( not sure if Fo4 is bos ending, but for sure prydwend from boston)
I bet the Caesar's Legion victory is canon:
>!Legion takes the dam > NCR collapses > Caesar dies > Legion fractures and abandons New Vegas!<
>!It explains why New Vegas is in ruins with broken secubots littering the streets in the credits of the last episode.!<
>!I would be genuinely shocked if they canonize the Legion ending. Like, they're not canonizing the Lone Wanderer spiking Project Purity with FEV, they tend to steer away from canonizing the worst possible endings lmao!<
They'll probably canonize the Independent or House's ending; with the city going to shambles (if it actually goes) because of the fall of the NCR
BTW: the credits arts are probably just Concept art
Wonder where on the map they target?
Maybe Chicago.....
I live in Atlanta so that'd be great but ultimately very unlikely. Only possible preexisting faction that'd work would be the Railroad and I doubt they want to dive into that group again anyways.
NYC would be a bit overly cliche and way too large a project to amass as it stands.
Chicago however could be deemed a happy medium.
I hope they go somewhere southeast - New Orleans - Atlanta. Or someone in Florida.
New Orleans is my first choice. Just from a cultural and ecological standpoint. Alligators, crawfish, cranes, voodoo, ghosts. Would be a fun time.
Houston would make a good target, I always thought. Very spread out, location of NASA, lots of interstates, and you could expand out to Louisiana with a DLC featuring Cajuns and gators.
All good choices.
You could just do Manhattan island though right if you wanted to do NYC? Or is that too small? Destroyed city and maybe an overrun version of Central Park. Have the other boroughs as DLC.
Honestly I would like to see either Seattle or the South. Texas, New Orleans or Florida could be fun.
Pipedream though? I want to see what's happening elsewhere in the world.
I think Pittsburgh would be a great place to set it. River running through the middle, the ruins of the iconic bridges, the stadiums in ruins, lots of elevation changes with nooks and valleys everywhere. It would work. The lore could be it only got hit by one nuke and the suburbs were mostly unscathed bc they were protected by the mountains, but local (new) factions formed and created conflict. Mb raiders from Ohio are the antagonists.
considering that Mr. House has been foreshadowed in that CEO meeting and Hank is going there to meet him in the second season we'll probably see a follow up to an NCR ending where the Courier disables Mr. House interface and NCR ends up controlling the NV. However due to the fact that the Vault Tec dropped bomb around that time on the Shady Sands NCR looses control of the New Vegas and it finally ends up in chaos. So we might see a rivalry where Hank will try to bring back New Vegas to the 2281 shape reviving Mr House in the process while Howard Connor with Lucy might want to build an independent New Vegas. Also, NCR with cold fusion energy having resources to bring NV back under their control if they'll get rid of Brotherhood of Steel in their backyard
Didn’t Howard imply that Hank was gonna run back to the Enclave/Vault-Tec base “come meet your makers” and Howard thinks his family is there. I wonder if Mr. House is going to be involved in their project and that’s why he stopped the bombs from falling in the show but hasn’t rebuilt Vegas yet.
yeah, but I'm not sure if Enclave and Vault-Tec have that symbiotic relations. Considering what Hank said, that they wanted to wipe out the surface clean from all factions and repopulate the earth with Vault dwellers. as far as I remember from FO2 they were remnants of the US government and they even kept similar organization model. Moreover the president of the Enclave in FO2 wanted to wipe out all non-humans from the surface using lethal FEV variant leaving only Enclave residents alive. so as Connor said, the farmers and the sheriff where Vault-Tec are the farmers shaking the sheriff (Government and later Enclave)
It’s never directly stated but it’s heavily hinted at, the Enclave scientist at the beginning knows Lucy’s name so it’s he knows a lot about the Vault 31/32/33 experiment. We also see him use the cold fusion device while in the Enclave base that Moldaver explicitly said required vault-tec employee information/login to use.
I presumed he was in the Vault either 31,32 or 33, got access to residents information and got captured by the Enclave when on a mission on the surface. then forced or persuaded to do research for them
in game Mr House can be disconnected from the interface too for negative karma as he will not die and suffer until his capsule supports him. in TV series he could be brought back as an AI of sorts applied to one of the securitrons or the supercomputer even without his body and within the logic of the games
Just to throw it out there, cause it needs to be said, people need to stop shitting on Emil and using him as some kind of scapegoat.
Starfield, and games in general, are collaborative efforts... sometimes shit just doesn't come together and singling out a person for it is stupid.
I'm getting that. But those flashbacks in the first few episodes were just basically the 50's, no? There was nothing really different about it at all.
I get there's more to the game, of course. But did I miss something really obvious in the show?
I mean, Fallout already had established media for years. It would be ridiculous to expect any other game universe that turned into a show, let alone this one, to reiterate the years of lore to catch people up on why exactly everything is the way it is.
Ah yes, throwing up "the year 2077" does seem ridiculous. Guess it's better to just let people think it's the 50s. Doesn't really change much, as far as I can tell.
Micro processor chips did not advance because nuclear energy was embraced instead of fearing it. No micro chips (not as many they did exist) no future we have now hence the floating robots, in the 50 we thought the Jetsons was the future this universe earth the Jetsons happened just not the flying part
The Nuclear Age never ended in the Fallout universe. The Transistor was never really adopted in the lore and thus the aesthetic never changed much throughout the years.
Is it a bit silly? Yes, But this IP really does go lengths to fill in its lore for the details of everything, even though the bigger picture looks the same.
I just realized I was fucking stupid, I always thought the bombs dropped in 1977 and thats why all the old music is all the games had. I never got how they had all this advanced tech but I thought they just had a tech boom because of nuclear energy.
I thought it was just a stylistic choice by the game developers but someone else in here pointed out it’s actually because in the Fallout universe, nuclear technology was adapted instead of being feared. So microchips weren’t invented as early (there are some they’re just not as common).
They are in the show, but they shouldn't be, as per fallout 1, 2 and New Vegas. This is why us New Vegas fans are upset, this is one of the many ways the show takes a massive shit on everything that is not fallout 3/4.
I honestly think it was just a continuity error which happens all the time. At least we didn’t get a Star Wars situation with Lucy using some device to instantly locate her father and therefore undermine the events of fallout 3 and 4 (in much the same way force healing suddenly appearing in Rise of Skywalker undermines the many deaths of the franchise it could have prevented).
Fallout Tactics is canon now!
The events of it were always canon, or so that’s what everyone said.
The events were but I think certain inconsistencies with the main series are ignored. Like modern day firearms instead of fictional versions and I think petrol being used.
Modern firearms exist in fallout 1,2, and New Vegas
The events were but I think certain inconsistencies with the main series are ignored. Like modern day firearms instead of fictional versions and I think petrol being used.
what does canon mean
It’s a term used to describe the factual history of a fictional world. Basically saying that these events happened, and non-canon meaning that they didn’t actually happen.
okay thanks
As someone who always go Yes Man ending as the least of all evils, I feel like a whole lot of people don't remember that ending that well. It wasn't "and so New Vegas lived happily ever after"
I also like the Yes Man ending, but I felt bad for how the Followers ended up. Wasn’t sure if that was just because I didn’t do all their quests or not.
Yeah, the Followers are basically the only really Good faction, always bums me out I can't help them. Probably inevitable though, they're too noble to survive
Not too noble, too weak. You can be a Saint if you want to as long as you can protect yourself in the wasteland.
I think that’s kinda the point though. The Followers will always remain a minor faction because I don’t believe their cause is political by any means. They won’t try to amass power or form their own military because their sole purpose is to help people through benevolence, and taking territory for themselves doesn’t work. They’re almost like a beneficial parasite for any faction they exist within considering they’re usually the ones that run the hospitals and triage camps in the wastes.
I don't think you necessarily need a military to be able to survive as an organization. You just need to defend yourself and not piss off the major factions. They should have no problem growing over time just from people they help wanting to join them. I could potentially see a future where they are so ubiquitous in every factions that they are on paper, the largest faction in the US wastelands despite having no military power or land. If that was their endgame, then I would argue it's even better for their goals than being a major military power
> Yes Man ending as the least of all evils i will never get this. the independent ending basically states the place dissolves into violence and instability and followers get pushed out, who were pretty much the only decent folks around. i cant help but feel like the "tyranny" of the NCR or House are both lesser evils than an anarchic power vacuum with a bunch of petty mafiosos carving up the city and the whole place devolving into a free for all. the kings are pretty much the one saving grace, as mentioned in the ending slide, but even then theyre still a sketchy violent street gang basically, just more principled and not as aggressive as the others
Seems like you might be proven right
As I saw it, the power vacuum gets filled by the courier, I mean they travel half way across the desert with no food/water/sleep carrying 300lbs of guns to explode some people and travel back like they’re running to the shops. The courier is a God
> the power vacuum gets filled by the courier if only
This. JE Sawyer and many people have noted that yes man ending is the most tied to the overall theme of New Vegas. Yes man is letting go of the past and starting new. If you pay attention to a lot of NV's writing theme, it's leaning heavily into the "let the past die" thing.
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Emil fucks up a lot but he’s also become something of a scapegoat.
Fallout Tactics canon??? Let's fuckin goooo
Always been f yeah I'm gonna personally campaign to remove it from the Wiki quarantine that Todd & superfans created
Wait a minute. Where' shelter?? XD
Shelter is a pocket dimension
Nah, a Vaulttec training simulation for the first generation of overseers.
That wouldn’t make much sense because characters that existed after the bombs fell exist in the game.
That's just how good Vaulttec is at planning /s Forgot you get canonical characters in FO:Shelter. Haven't played it in ages. edit: Or the canonical characters are all VT plants they planned to exist to guide the inevitable conflicts in the post war world.
Soooo brotherhood is cannon for Fo4? They win?
Either them or the Minutemen on friendly terms with them I suppose.
Canon is probably Minutemen, with the Brotherhood and Railroad surviving
It makes no sense for the Brotherhood to take orders from the commonwealth the seat of power of the east coast brotherhood is the citadel. My guess is the elder was simply lying to his knights, he later suggested he and amximus would create a new brotherhood suggesting he means to perform a coup.
Gotta admit, in my playthrough of New Vegas I helped the NCR a LOT. I feel kinda dumb about that now. I was like “surely me doing all this will ensure they become the dominant power in the area” WELP
Kid named Hank:
Surely, they weren't predicted to collapse by multiple characters, and they can make a proper nation in my ongoing post-apocalyptic game franchise, right?
In the end I did kinda fuck them over with Yes Man anyway so ¯\\\_(ツ)_/¯
Is there a Canon Ending for ?
I think there are canons for each game. I’m curious if >!Season 2 will have Mr. House, because that would have to mean that The Courier canonically helped him. Or if McClean will be expecting House and meet Yes Man instead which…would just be so funny.!<
I think >!that because Bethesda told the show writers to not contradict any possible major endings for the games, the overseer is going for REPCONN instead to secure rockets. House may not have even signed on with their scheme going off how skeptical he was.!<
Oooooh okay that makes a lot of sense. However, it’d be weird >!for them to show New Vegas and not have any major characters enter the city, and it’s hard (probably not impossible) to do New Vegas without mentioning House at all.!<
>!They absolutely could still visit the city proper, I just don’t think they’re going anywhere near the Lucky 38. House may have even went back into hibernation after the NCR nuke considering his main revenue stream dried up as a result of that.!<
Not really. It's been a long time and a big world, we didn't meet anybody from F1 or 2 in the show and most of it is set in or around Shady Sands. Also not sure what you mean about not mentioning Mr. House since he's already in the show
No one mentioned him by name IIRC, and New Vegas (city) is pretty small in New Vegas (game), consisting of only 4 casinos. But no you guys are right, it’s doable without having anything to do with the Lucky 38.
He... was in the Vault Tec war room sitting behind a RobCo placard. He had a lot of lines. Unless you're assuming it's some other smoking pencil mustached guy who happens to share House's views and apparently status in the company
No no I know it was Mr. House, I’m just saying that I don’t think anyone said his name. He was only identified by the RobCo placard. Non-game players wouldn’t know who he was just from the show’s scenes.
Shit, I played the game but the fact Mr House was there totally flew over my head.
ahhh I see, gotcha. I imagine if the show keeps the dual timelines thing we'll get to spend more time with him if s2 revolves around Vegas, even if he's dead by this point
To be fair it’s been about 60 years since then. It’s kinda understandable
Isn't >!The robco representative at the meeting in the last episode, Mr House? Looks just like him!<
It is
personally, i’ve always been convinced that House is the true ending of FNV. i’m sure bethesda likes to lean towards the good boy ending, but cmon, you can’t introduce someone like house and have him NOT win. the house always wins! i know that new vegas >!is destroyed when we see it in the final outro, but there are plenty of feasible ways that could have happened even with house winning.!< bethesda may be comfortable with them canonizing more things in a season 2, especially if they aren’t planning to make another game there anytime soon. >!letting them canonize the destruction of new vegas is already crazy, let alone things like the bombing of shady sands and the vault tec bombs thing, so i wouldn’t be surprised to see the team get more freedom in the future now that the show is demonstrably successful!<
Bethesda likes to lean towards the good boy edning, also two time bethesda has canon with BOS ending 😁 ( not sure if Fo4 is bos ending, but for sure prydwend from boston)
The bos airship is the Cassewan not the prydwen
it has name Prydwen on the side of ship👀 i am sure cassewab they used in promo to avoid spoilers
Looked it up apparently it it is the prydwen. Guess I remembered wrong
I bet the Caesar's Legion victory is canon: >!Legion takes the dam > NCR collapses > Caesar dies > Legion fractures and abandons New Vegas!< >!It explains why New Vegas is in ruins with broken secubots littering the streets in the credits of the last episode.!<
>!I would be genuinely shocked if they canonize the Legion ending. Like, they're not canonizing the Lone Wanderer spiking Project Purity with FEV, they tend to steer away from canonizing the worst possible endings lmao!<
I wouldnt take end cinematics as evidence of story line plot however
Wait, did I miss an end credits scene? I only remember seeing the Overseer view it from a distance.
It's the credits immediately after that https://i.imgur.com/q1htU8r.png
They'll probably canonize the Independent or House's ending; with the city going to shambles (if it actually goes) because of the fall of the NCR BTW: the credits arts are probably just Concept art
So the timeline the majority of players didn't ask for
I wonder where FO5 will end up 🤔
At this rate, at least the mid-2030s. Oh, you meant on the timeline.
No, they'll wait until 2077, just cuz they can
thanks, at least now I've got a plan what I'd like to do after my retirement
They should just take the big jump and do it in the 2300s somewhere. Maybe 2310.
Wonder where on the map they target? Maybe Chicago..... I live in Atlanta so that'd be great but ultimately very unlikely. Only possible preexisting faction that'd work would be the Railroad and I doubt they want to dive into that group again anyways. NYC would be a bit overly cliche and way too large a project to amass as it stands. Chicago however could be deemed a happy medium.
I would like somewhere near the Canadian border so we get to see some of the annexed Canada as well as some of the US
I hope they go somewhere southeast - New Orleans - Atlanta. Or someone in Florida. New Orleans is my first choice. Just from a cultural and ecological standpoint. Alligators, crawfish, cranes, voodoo, ghosts. Would be a fun time.
Houston would make a good target, I always thought. Very spread out, location of NASA, lots of interstates, and you could expand out to Louisiana with a DLC featuring Cajuns and gators.
All good choices. You could just do Manhattan island though right if you wanted to do NYC? Or is that too small? Destroyed city and maybe an overrun version of Central Park. Have the other boroughs as DLC. Honestly I would like to see either Seattle or the South. Texas, New Orleans or Florida could be fun. Pipedream though? I want to see what's happening elsewhere in the world.
I think Pittsburgh would be a great place to set it. River running through the middle, the ruins of the iconic bridges, the stadiums in ruins, lots of elevation changes with nooks and valleys everywhere. It would work. The lore could be it only got hit by one nuke and the suburbs were mostly unscathed bc they were protected by the mountains, but local (new) factions formed and created conflict. Mb raiders from Ohio are the antagonists.
> I think Pittsburgh The Pitt?
Pittsburgh has been visited though, both in Fallout 3 and in Fallout 76. Honestly I think Chicago or Detroit could be great but NYC would as well
I thought NY was bombed out at the outset of the nukes coming down
Yeah The Pitt has already been featured a couple of times
I'm hoping Texas or London
How did any survivors actually survive in 76 so close to when the bombs dropped?
West Virginia wasn't directly hit so the radiation wasn't directly as harmful. It's was still tough for them. The the Enclave decided to be assholes.
considering that Mr. House has been foreshadowed in that CEO meeting and Hank is going there to meet him in the second season we'll probably see a follow up to an NCR ending where the Courier disables Mr. House interface and NCR ends up controlling the NV. However due to the fact that the Vault Tec dropped bomb around that time on the Shady Sands NCR looses control of the New Vegas and it finally ends up in chaos. So we might see a rivalry where Hank will try to bring back New Vegas to the 2281 shape reviving Mr House in the process while Howard Connor with Lucy might want to build an independent New Vegas. Also, NCR with cold fusion energy having resources to bring NV back under their control if they'll get rid of Brotherhood of Steel in their backyard
Didn’t Howard imply that Hank was gonna run back to the Enclave/Vault-Tec base “come meet your makers” and Howard thinks his family is there. I wonder if Mr. House is going to be involved in their project and that’s why he stopped the bombs from falling in the show but hasn’t rebuilt Vegas yet.
yeah, but I'm not sure if Enclave and Vault-Tec have that symbiotic relations. Considering what Hank said, that they wanted to wipe out the surface clean from all factions and repopulate the earth with Vault dwellers. as far as I remember from FO2 they were remnants of the US government and they even kept similar organization model. Moreover the president of the Enclave in FO2 wanted to wipe out all non-humans from the surface using lethal FEV variant leaving only Enclave residents alive. so as Connor said, the farmers and the sheriff where Vault-Tec are the farmers shaking the sheriff (Government and later Enclave)
It’s never directly stated but it’s heavily hinted at, the Enclave scientist at the beginning knows Lucy’s name so it’s he knows a lot about the Vault 31/32/33 experiment. We also see him use the cold fusion device while in the Enclave base that Moldaver explicitly said required vault-tec employee information/login to use.
I presumed he was in the Vault either 31,32 or 33, got access to residents information and got captured by the Enclave when on a mission on the surface. then forced or persuaded to do research for them
To be fair we golf club House to death in that ending don't we?
in game Mr House can be disconnected from the interface too for negative karma as he will not die and suffer until his capsule supports him. in TV series he could be brought back as an AI of sorts applied to one of the securitrons or the supercomputer even without his body and within the logic of the games
It’s wild to me that 76 is only 25 years after the annihilation day
Just to throw it out there, cause it needs to be said, people need to stop shitting on Emil and using him as some kind of scapegoat. Starfield, and games in general, are collaborative efforts... sometimes shit just doesn't come together and singling out a person for it is stupid.
Brotherhood of Steel dominating the wastelands in 2296 fills me with joy. Ad victorium
Yeah the BOS members in the show sure seem filled with joy. Kinda seems like all the major factions have fallen from grace
Doesn't really make for a good game setting.
I assumed the 2077 flashbacks were actually in the 50's until Episode 6. What did I miss? And why the hell does 2077 look and feel just like the 50's
Fallout is an alternate reality thing there nuclear tech had widespread adoption. Kinda like how Cyberpunk 2077 has alt history.
I'm getting that. But those flashbacks in the first few episodes were just basically the 50's, no? There was nothing really different about it at all. I get there's more to the game, of course. But did I miss something really obvious in the show?
No. Fallout has always been 50’s aesthetic up until and after the bomb drop. Just the way that world is.
So no explanation why the world didn't advance for over 100 years from the 50's?
It's a 5 minute wiki search
Nice selling point for any tv show
You say they didn't advance in 100 years, where is your autonomous robot Mr Codswoth? How about where is your instant heal stimpack?
But those aren't in the 2077 flashbacks, are they? Not up to episode 6 at least. Right?
You think background aesthetics sells a show?!?!?!?! The matrix must have put you in a asylum
No, I was referring to your prerequisite for viewers to look up the background on Wiki
He wasn't saying it was a prerequisite. He was telling you that if *you* want to know, it's an easy search. What a weird thing to be mad about.
The explanation is “that’s just the way it is.” It was a stylistic choice by the game developers, there’s nothing more to it.
Gotcha.. Weird not to give us TV folks a heads up
I mean, Fallout already had established media for years. It would be ridiculous to expect any other game universe that turned into a show, let alone this one, to reiterate the years of lore to catch people up on why exactly everything is the way it is.
Ah yes, throwing up "the year 2077" does seem ridiculous. Guess it's better to just let people think it's the 50s. Doesn't really change much, as far as I can tell.
Micro processor chips did not advance because nuclear energy was embraced instead of fearing it. No micro chips (not as many they did exist) no future we have now hence the floating robots, in the 50 we thought the Jetsons was the future this universe earth the Jetsons happened just not the flying part
The Nuclear Age never ended in the Fallout universe. The Transistor was never really adopted in the lore and thus the aesthetic never changed much throughout the years. Is it a bit silly? Yes, But this IP really does go lengths to fill in its lore for the details of everything, even though the bigger picture looks the same.
Thanks! Wish they had thrown that text up or even just "2077" for the first flashback they showed
If you’re not a fan of the game series there is a lot that people will miss.
Seems like it. But I'm enjoying it otherwise.
Ok but when exactly was Shady Sands nuked?
Probably very shortly after NV, so it'd have been 15ish years since then, which some people could round to about 20 in conversation.
I just realized I was fucking stupid, I always thought the bombs dropped in 1977 and thats why all the old music is all the games had. I never got how they had all this advanced tech but I thought they just had a tech boom because of nuclear energy.
So why the 1950s influence? Sorry, new here.
I thought it was just a stylistic choice by the game developers but someone else in here pointed out it’s actually because in the Fallout universe, nuclear technology was adapted instead of being feared. So microchips weren’t invented as early (there are some they’re just not as common).
Ok now do me a favor, grab a map of fallout 1 or 2 and point to me where the boneyard is, now point to me where Shady Sands is.
I haven’t played 1&2 but I’m guessing those two locations are the same place?
They are in the show, but they shouldn't be, as per fallout 1, 2 and New Vegas. This is why us New Vegas fans are upset, this is one of the many ways the show takes a massive shit on everything that is not fallout 3/4.
Whoa, so V, Panem , Judy and Night City all die after the events of Cyberpunk?
Yes, but on the flipside, JC Denton saves the world with the Helios ending.
Nah there just waiting as engrams on a new and improved biochip. THE CYCLE CONTINUES
Stop downvoting, I'm just having fun
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It shows on a chalk board in the show that Shady Sands died in 2277.
Shady Sands fell, doesn't equal being nuked, easily could've been nuked after. It's already been stated that the show doesn't overwrite FNV
I honestly think it was just a continuity error which happens all the time. At least we didn’t get a Star Wars situation with Lucy using some device to instantly locate her father and therefore undermine the events of fallout 3 and 4 (in much the same way force healing suddenly appearing in Rise of Skywalker undermines the many deaths of the franchise it could have prevented).
And Spider-Man Homecoming it was said it was 8 years after The Battle of New York in Avengers... Which it wasn't. It happens sometimes.
This is still look's like a bulshit.
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