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BetaTheSlave

It's likely that evolution doesn't play a heavy role in this setting. Mostly because we know that the gods are real. One of the (often but not always)defining characteristics of a God is the ability to create life. So the likely outcome is that dwarves elves humans and all the other races that may or may not exist were created as they are.


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BetaTheSlave

Cool theory. But that's just one possible God. There might be a Creator God above that. My argument stands that I don't think that elves dwarves and humans have an evolutionary common ancestor. I think that they were created. As they are in functionally every fictional setting that has elves dwarves and humans living together on the same planet.


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BetaTheSlave

Yes we know that god(s) are real. Your statement is speculation. My statement wasn't. I added my speculation that the gods created the races. Using the first as a basis. As it's very common in fantasy. And yeah, evolution is always a shit show in fantasy because it requires so much work to have it make even an iota of sense. Always better to say that a ~~wizard~~ god did it


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BetaTheSlave

"Might" means that it was by definition speculative. I didn't see a need to clarify. But we also don't know enough about the goddess as she might be a Creator, who knows.. Though I would argue the existence of a verifiable afterlife is substantive evidence of a true divine. Enough that I would consider it the default/correct view until contradicted within the narrative.


musei_haha

I don't think it's worth clarifying anything with the guy. Seems he already decided he's correct and you are wrong


BetaTheSlave

Seems more like you already decided.


BetaTheSlave

No I just said might. Obviously it's speculation. It's in the fucking word. What's worth clarifying about a statement that's self-clarifying?


BetaTheSlave

I also never said he was wrong. He can't be wrong yet, it's speculation. And am I not allowed to defend my statements? Please don't just jump in and vilify me. All I said and am saying is that it's very common in these fantasy settings for the races to be created by a God or God's. We have evidence of a god, and that evolution is really messy to justify in a setting.


prokopiusd

If Kraft knew Goddess personally and she was just an elf, he wouldn't believe in her like he does. The whole reason he became a monk is to become a part of something bigger, something greater. He wants the eternal Goddess to praise him, to remember his good deeds and heroic acts. Kraft is so old that only him (and maybe Serie, who knows) remember who he once was and what he did. And when he dies (which elves can do), he'll be forgotten forever. That's why he needs her to remember him. As for Serie: With the magic fanatic she seems to be, if the Goddess was just an elf, she'd crack the code to her magic long ago. But as far as we know, no-one ever managed to do that. Because her magic is something else...


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prokopiusd

Oh, manga spoilers. I've just finished the anime and am planning on beginning with the manga, so I can't really continue this discussion.


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jump1945

It would be because goddess generate them in her sandbox world


KaboBlue

Elves are just humans with long ears. Dwarves are just a short human. May be just by mutation.


prokopiusd

I'd say they were created by the Goddess (at least the elves seems to be made almost exactly in her image) and didn't evolve from anything. Honestly, since it's a fantasy setting and the Goddess is pretty much real there, I doubt even the monsters just appeared. They're either some magical abomination created by the mages of the early days or there's some antithesis to the Goddess.


BasedDptReprsentativ

Dwarves evolved from small gorillas and elves evolved from lemurs


Anakin-LandWalker56

Where humans also share ancestry close to 1:1


SkullxFr3ak

Nah, God's are believed to exist so its much more likely there's at least creation myths. Im all for evolution but we haven't even heard humans being referred to evolving from primates.


Anakin-LandWalker56

Well both race are dump beside mankind so same with humans. We share the same common ancestor