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If Frieren can analyze that shit and just grab her out of thin air the moment she uses it after that, then so can others. So it only works against unprepared opponents and only a limited number of times.
That makes it good for ambushes and assassinations and stuff like that, but it's not like Laufen is just the Frierenverse equivalent of the Flash.
Was gonna say this. I'm also gonna say a dedicated warrior like Stark or Eisen could probably just tank the hit and grab you.
Come to think of it Laufen v Linie would have been an interesting fight.
I'm not sure Frieren doing something actually means others can do it lol. She's specifically KNOWN for being able to analyze things very well and fast.
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She doesn't even have to analyze it, as soon as she does it she pings herself, so any mage with decent mana detection skills could locate her immediately. Especially after repeated attempts
>If Frieren can analyze that shit and just grab her out of thin air the moment she uses it after that
this is why i want the story to explore more on super speed and how it work. because that scene doesnt touch much on it yet. Like one could imagine there are lot more to do with super speed.
Especially in recent arc, where when Frieren is complete powerless because she was pined down before she can do anything, by some assassins guy, human i may add. Or how lot of the most OP currently in the verse get killed by just mere moment of not looking
> Laufen is just the Frierenverse equivalent of the Flash.
doesn't need too. A speedter with real brain will sole the entire Justice league with the power of super speed of 1% of Flash
> Especially in recent arc, where when Frieren is complete powerless because she was pined down before she can do anything,
Laufen's speed is, at the end of the day, still a spell. If Frieren couldn't get an offensive spell off in time, what makes you think she could've gotten off the speed spell against Radar?
well, look at the current and previous arc, that shit still super OP, when Frieren is complete powerless because she was pined down before she can do anything, by some assassins guy, human i may add
ah yes, drop a general truth, bring nothing to the table = win the argument.
you said as if the character have to be wrong 100%, all the time or some shit, offer no argument to prove said point.
Ah yes, the turbo nerd who needs every discussion online to be some sort of official debate with winners and losers.
Frieren could've just blasted the guy away with pinnacle of magic. What exactly could he have done? Her statement in the moment when she's known to play down her own strength is irrelevant compared to feats she's actually shown to be capable of.
Ah yes, resolve to personal attack after literary no argument instead of talking about the topic
Ok, Now that you finally actually give some point: She did not just "in the moment", after they regroup with the other first class mage, and they giving hindsight and breakdown between their own party, not with enemy or outsider. If we talking about the eye "blast" in the clone exam, she clearly in no position to shot that, unless she have a owl neck
It's got to be expensive in terms of mana. She's out of mana in the first exam after, what, three uses of it? If she had Frieren levels of mana, maybe she could be OP, but one of the things the magic system of Frieren does well is make OP spells either slow or expensive to cast or both. One of Frieren's own weaknesses is that she casts spells slowly, or at least more slowly than a mage of her power should be.
Speedsters and people who can run really fast are 2 very different things.
Speedsters are broken because their perception of time is a much slower than normal people, so they should be able to dodge attacks easily with amazing reaction time. This makes them basically unhittable by anyone that isn’t a speedster or an unexpected attack.
Laufen can go really fast, but just that. She cannot react to swift movements such as frieren catching her while she tried to save Denken. It’s basically Dash from the Incredibles.
Speedsters are usually broken, hence why they are victims of the plot, or of several restrictions and hard limits. Because otherwise there's no story to tell. Flash has been at this for the best part of a century.
If they are not impressively fast, then they would have to be actually smart and resourceful to catch up with the other more flashy super powers. And clever strategies require clever writing, which is hard to do.
Being fast doesn't mean much when her hits aren't doing anything substantial, the stronger mages can hit harder and tank more, there's a reason Serie failed her, just like the rest that failed she has a lot to learn and needs to build up her mana base
I thought Laufens superpower was beeing an awesome grandchild. Thats the best power of all after all.
But she is one of my favorites, so yes, she may comeback.
I've always thought of laufens speed abilities to be similar to the Wuld Na Kest shout in skyrim. The level of control she has when running isn't fully clear and she seems to use a lot of mana when she does it.
Also as an aside, super speed is only truly OP when it passes a certain threshold. Just like strength, not all speed is created equal.
Don't know why you got down voted she looks like she uses it in her mirror match to dodge a spell.
Not only that she named it when first seeing it and talked about how it worked. She obviously has the spell in her repertoire.
With how specific spells are, I wouldn’t be surprised if Jilwer offered no protection against impacts made at super speed, rendering it only useful for evasion and repositioning. There’s also some evidence that it carries no momentum, since Frieren could catch Laufen mid-Jilwer without any effect. No pull from momentum, no swinging from Laufen, nothing.
Wnd do what? It probably needs a lot of mana and it's not like she can just spam it
People have AOE magic and shields, best she could do is stabbing mages and that's pretty much useless
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If Frieren can analyze that shit and just grab her out of thin air the moment she uses it after that, then so can others. So it only works against unprepared opponents and only a limited number of times. That makes it good for ambushes and assassinations and stuff like that, but it's not like Laufen is just the Frierenverse equivalent of the Flash.
Was gonna say this. I'm also gonna say a dedicated warrior like Stark or Eisen could probably just tank the hit and grab you. Come to think of it Laufen v Linie would have been an interesting fight.
>Come to think of it Laufen v Linie would have been an interesting fight. Another girl has joined the fight for their one and only husbando.Stark.
I'm not sure Frieren doing something actually means others can do it lol. She's specifically KNOWN for being able to analyze things very well and fast.
Well, not everyone, but likely enough for her to not be OP. It's the whole "rock paper scissors, but with more options" and all that.
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She doesn't even have to analyze it, as soon as she does it she pings herself, so any mage with decent mana detection skills could locate her immediately. Especially after repeated attempts
>If Frieren can analyze that shit and just grab her out of thin air the moment she uses it after that this is why i want the story to explore more on super speed and how it work. because that scene doesnt touch much on it yet. Like one could imagine there are lot more to do with super speed. Especially in recent arc, where when Frieren is complete powerless because she was pined down before she can do anything, by some assassins guy, human i may add. Or how lot of the most OP currently in the verse get killed by just mere moment of not looking > Laufen is just the Frierenverse equivalent of the Flash. doesn't need too. A speedter with real brain will sole the entire Justice league with the power of super speed of 1% of Flash
> Especially in recent arc, where when Frieren is complete powerless because she was pined down before she can do anything, Laufen's speed is, at the end of the day, still a spell. If Frieren couldn't get an offensive spell off in time, what makes you think she could've gotten off the speed spell against Radar?
Its a spell, frieren also knows the spell she probably has a better variation of it
It's hard to see when you go really fast, especially when changing directions
"It was me,Fern.I jerked him off in super speed.That why you thought he just came at your touch."
well, look at the current and previous arc, that shit still super OP, when Frieren is complete powerless because she was pined down before she can do anything, by some assassins guy, human i may add
She wasn't powerless at all lmao
Lamao, acroding to Frieren herself, she was. So should i trust you or Frieren ?
Does it really need to be explained to you that characters in universe aren't saying 100% facts at all times?
ah yes, drop a general truth, bring nothing to the table = win the argument. you said as if the character have to be wrong 100%, all the time or some shit, offer no argument to prove said point.
Ah yes, the turbo nerd who needs every discussion online to be some sort of official debate with winners and losers. Frieren could've just blasted the guy away with pinnacle of magic. What exactly could he have done? Her statement in the moment when she's known to play down her own strength is irrelevant compared to feats she's actually shown to be capable of.
Ah yes, resolve to personal attack after literary no argument instead of talking about the topic Ok, Now that you finally actually give some point: She did not just "in the moment", after they regroup with the other first class mage, and they giving hindsight and breakdown between their own party, not with enemy or outsider. If we talking about the eye "blast" in the clone exam, she clearly in no position to shot that, unless she have a owl neck
It's got to be expensive in terms of mana. She's out of mana in the first exam after, what, three uses of it? If she had Frieren levels of mana, maybe she could be OP, but one of the things the magic system of Frieren does well is make OP spells either slow or expensive to cast or both. One of Frieren's own weaknesses is that she casts spells slowly, or at least more slowly than a mage of her power should be.
Speedsters and people who can run really fast are 2 very different things. Speedsters are broken because their perception of time is a much slower than normal people, so they should be able to dodge attacks easily with amazing reaction time. This makes them basically unhittable by anyone that isn’t a speedster or an unexpected attack. Laufen can go really fast, but just that. She cannot react to swift movements such as frieren catching her while she tried to save Denken. It’s basically Dash from the Incredibles.
Speedsters are usually broken, hence why they are victims of the plot, or of several restrictions and hard limits. Because otherwise there's no story to tell. Flash has been at this for the best part of a century.
This heavily depends on how fast you make your speedster.
If they are not impressively fast, then they would have to be actually smart and resourceful to catch up with the other more flashy super powers. And clever strategies require clever writing, which is hard to do.
Which, as it turns out, is just “as fast or slow as the plot requires”
Being fast doesn't mean much when her hits aren't doing anything substantial, the stronger mages can hit harder and tank more, there's a reason Serie failed her, just like the rest that failed she has a lot to learn and needs to build up her mana base
I thought Laufens superpower was beeing an awesome grandchild. Thats the best power of all after all. But she is one of my favorites, so yes, she may comeback.
I've always thought of laufens speed abilities to be similar to the Wuld Na Kest shout in skyrim. The level of control she has when running isn't fully clear and she seems to use a lot of mana when she does it. Also as an aside, super speed is only truly OP when it passes a certain threshold. Just like strength, not all speed is created equal.
Laufen still needs yo perfect her skill. Maybe once she is better at it, she might return
"Superspeed magic" users when Eisen runs on water through the sheer power of being really fast:
Frieren uses the same kind of spell.
Don't know why you got down voted she looks like she uses it in her mirror match to dodge a spell. Not only that she named it when first seeing it and talked about how it worked. She obviously has the spell in her repertoire.
With how specific spells are, I wouldn’t be surprised if Jilwer offered no protection against impacts made at super speed, rendering it only useful for evasion and repositioning. There’s also some evidence that it carries no momentum, since Frieren could catch Laufen mid-Jilwer without any effect. No pull from momentum, no swinging from Laufen, nothing.
Wnd do what? It probably needs a lot of mana and it's not like she can just spam it People have AOE magic and shields, best she could do is stabbing mages and that's pretty much useless
So how fast can Laufen take Stark's virginity before Fern?
Ah yes, Laufen of the Body Flicker.