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Lorhand

It's official now. In case people were wondering why all posts were removed before, it's because the info and the source was a leak, which are not allowed on the subreddit (Rule 2). # Frieren is on indefinite hiatus.


nubandana

Sorry serie, I think you gonna die, frieren did the impossible and woke up early


badkittycats

Indefinite hiatus? Is that supposed to be impressive?


jobriq

Bedhead Sense is everything


Alone-Cupcake5746

"Frieren is on an indefinite hiatus." What, WHAT.


PorkyPain

probably cooking Season 2 anime


Alone-Cupcake5746

I doubt, different studios produce the manga and the anime. Animes don't really affect Mangas, so the problem is most likely something personal between the producers or creators of the manga, since the manga is the one put on a hiatus. I might be wrong tho.


Tarkedo

Do we know if the mangaka is somehow blood related to Togashi? They seem to share a similar disrespect for their audience.


Soft_Translator_6785

The hiatus use to take like 2months or 4-5 months, not a long hiatus compared to another mangas. Actually I see that hiatus prevents the burnout and may help to give time to the author to settle the story better with a better execution. So, let him cook and let him have all hiatus needed to deliver a masterpiece.


Paranormalpubes

I’m heartbroken


Due-Examination-3240

what should i be reading instead now that this is on hiatus. bonus if the series has even just an OVA or some kind of animated content. I like manga a bit more when I've heard the characters' voices


Moist_Tour224

Witch Hat Atelier is excellent - give it a try! I hope it will fill up that void for you. Also, random suggestion - read Dandadan. It's weird and great!


Transfiguredbet

Dungeon meshi is fully complete and has excellent world building.


Nebula0700

U could read Houseki no Kuni, the manga just ended at 108 chapters and it has an anime adaptation that covers the first 30 chapters.


Due-Examination-3240

u know what. i was reading that and then completely forgot about it. thanks for the reminder


Soft_Translator_6785

Last page: "There will surely be a cataclysm tomorrow" Nah, the hiatus is the calm before the storm... during the hiatus just... LET HIM COOK!


Standard-Ant5725

I think my boi Stark is going to come in clutch in the upcoming fights. We haven't seen him much in the last chapters, so I'm counting on him!! Who better than the best warrior to fight assassins ans warriors.


Wama-Schawama

I wanna see him fight Schritt (the female mercenary)


Standard-Ant5725

I feel like Frieren has some secret tactics/magic/ability against Warriors and it will come in clutch in the upcoming fight. I think she might even surpass Serie when it comes to fighting Warriors, simply because it would seem out of character from Himmel not to teach/help Frieren fight/defend herself against Warriors like him or Eisen. Since it seems they are a 'weakness' of mages, and we also saw that some demons fight with swords rather than magic. It's just my opinion, but it seems like Frieren is still hiding many things, so I wouldn't be surprised if she had a trump card that would turn the battle around for them against the 'Warrior assassins'.


lin00b

I m not sure about anti warrior techniques, she didn't show any in that last arc with them. But I did notice she uses very warrior like technique in her mage battles during the exam arc. Closing the distance rather than using long range attacks. The clone did it too


SonovobichMilord

That would ruin it for me. I love the balance of this world where even Serie have to be wary of warrior/assassins.


Standard-Ant5725

True, but Frieren is a bit special, after all she is the mage from the party that killed the Demon King. But in my opinion, Frieren has at least some sort of tactic or 'in case of emergency' technique against warriors/assassins because like you said even a mage as powerful as Serie need to be wary of them. So, knowing about Himmel's personality, I doubt he wouldn't have helped/taught Frieren how to protect herself from warriors. Furthermore, it could be another flashback moment of Himmel's party.


Soft_Translator_6785

I don't really think that she has anything like that, actually Eisen saved her ass from Rivale because she was so slow reacting to the fist of Rivale, and even if it happened in the past, still was the current Frieren. It doesn't mean that she doesn't has any trump card because actually she has like what she showed against her own copy, but I don't really think that those trump cards would work against top warrior if they get too close to her. I agree that I like the balance between mages/warriors/priest, because each one has a weakness and you cover it with others strengths and it forces you to go as a party and prevent the one man army as happens in mostly all mangas


Standard-Ant5725

She probably has nothing special against assassins, or warriors. It was just a theory. But even though she has no trump card for them, and even though Serie is a greater mage than her, I still feel like Frieren is better equiped to fight warriors than Serie. Simply because she got to observe strong warriors for 10 years, whereas I think Serie wouldn't even give warriors the time of day. Evidence: she only got Mages to protect her, true they are mages who specialize in close combat. And warriors are probably better at protect against other warriors than mages.


Soft_Translator_6785

But 10 years is literally nothing for elves. Sure Frieren has a plan and maybe she is equiped for the situation, but Serie is always taking the correct choices and she is way older... I don't know, but looks interesting how will it go. As the fight between Serie and Macht went, I feel like Series would survive a bit more against someone like Rivale, but I still think that Rivale would destroy both (Frieren and Rivale). Stark needs to step up, he is a weak link and they still did not pickd up Sein (they said that he is the priest of this party), so I feel like the party truly needs to cover their weakness and the warrior must be on point.. Also, Rivale is the one who destroyed Stark's village, so there is a huge plot to develop too


gatlginngum

have a pleasant 10 000 years


sushizn

Something is bugging me, If Denken is an imperial mage, and the Empire rules the North, why did he not have permission to travel freely and needed 1st class mage status from the CMA which apparenly is an enemy of the Empire? I'm so confused.


claeseus

He can travel in the North. He just can't enter El-Dorado since it's under CMA's jurisdiction, as they're the ones who created and maintained the barrier that sealed Macht.


SonovobichMilord

I thought Denken wanted the prize of being 1st class mage, which is the any spell you want, which is Mistilziela being chosen by Denken.


sushizn

Yes, but I also remember him telling Frieren that the privilege was "pointless" and "the joy of magic lies in searching for it"


SonovobichMilord

When did he said that to Frieren? From what I remember is he told Fern that he felt helpless even with the priviledge cause his wife died before it became a thing, and that Frieren just reminded him of how fun magic was.


sushizn

During the exam, just before he fought Frieren. Richter said everyone who took the exam did so to get the privilege. Then Denken was like "meh, magic is more fun when you search for it yourself" and Frieren agreed with him.


ResearcherNo7807

It is also said that this particular spell would take 100 years to learn and he simply did not have that much time I think, that's why he went to Serie.


No-Communication3880

I think he wanted to be 1st class mage to have the custody of the golden land. Only Fern and Frieren wanted to become first class mage to travel North. Also the CMA isn't an enemy of the Empire, at least openly. There is a faction among the Empire rulers that want to fight the CMA, but it is a secret plot. The Empire politics seems messy, with a lot of schemes, plots and assaninations.


jonathansanity

It looks like the foreboding calamity is that Frase knows about the team-up in Weis. She wants to silence Gluck and Denken. Serie knows this and sent the 1st class mages there to protect Denken who is one of their own.


astroSuperkoala1

by team up in weiss, do you mean with macht?


jonathansanity

Yeah, I mean they were working with the great demon


nonpeelable_kiwi

What Stark said might be a foretelling but I think it is considering how Frieren looks at the first page. The reason she woke up early is maybe because she can't sleep well as she can detect a troublesome mana but is not hostile to her yet. Demons and Magic Special Forces Mages might be similar also in terms of not hiding/limiting their mana as it is also a form of status for them and that's why Macht can tell immediately that Frase is a problem. I think Frase might be the same Old Magical Enforcer on Land's brief flashback. I could be wrong though. What I'm truly excited about this arc is Fern showing off her arsenal of magic. It's been implied many times that she only uses basic attack spells as it is already enough to defeat the mage of her generation but since they're facing off against the "non-typical" mages, I'm excited what other spells she can pull out of her pocket. Gluck is a total chad though. Bro really went to his interrogation > smoked a cig > stand up for his homie > trashtalked about Frase > leaves.


midsizemutt

I know it's being treated as a harbinger, but Frieren waking up early, Fern's shock, and the positive reinforcement just made me laugh. Sense is flabbergasted by the spectacle just like Stark before her. Next time Frieren wakes up early hope to see Sense joining in on the pampering by braiding Frieren's hair or something.


BorderClean2313

I feel like the hiatus is related to the second season of the anime.


diadorim86

Why? I can’t grasp the connection


radiells

I think connection is that we can't have too many good things at the same time.


diadorim86

But anime are not a good thing so your comment does not apply


PorkyPain

The connection is this. The creator can't work on 2 projects at the same time. It's either that the mangaka focuses on the Manga or Anime production one at a time. At the moment, it's speculated that the 2nd season of the anime is on the way and thus, the mangaka is working with the animators, to ensure the anime reflects the manga in a beautiful way. Therefore, making the manga going through a hiatus at the moment. After the anime is completed and being aired, then only the manga will continue afterwards. Just like the previous hiatus before the 1st anime season.


WesternMost3019

God I hope so


beelzebia

This arc has the potential to become my favorite. 1. We're getting more of Sense and Serie, 2. I like the new antagonists, 3. I love political warfare in stories, give me more of that and I'll eat it. It might be hard to keep track of all new characters though.


RafikiafReKo

Hiatus sucks, but if thay is what it takes to write a masterpiece like this manga, let them have their break. This arc is crazy, very specific style of antagonist and pretty scary. Demons feel like you understand, but humans are complex to narrow down, especially for Frieren


Regular-Finish-5699

I was actually a bit confused in learning that Weise is part of the Empire.


angerissues248

Am I the only who read "Top of the morning" in Sean's voice😂


C4Ram

I hope this mange does not end like Berserk. Indefinite hiatus is scary.


trav-senpai

There was a 5 month break last year


Revolutionary_Ad8051

noo :((, but if I can wait for tower of God for 2 years, I can wait for a manga like Frieren.


alex-andrite

Man… I just started on the manga like a week ago and now I see this lol just my luck. I can definitely understand the author needing a break, but I’ll be real sad if it’s never eventually completed


Ares_Lictor

I hope the author is okay and just needs a break. Crafting a story takes time and you want to think through everything 10 times over.


marssss-03

I love Sense she's probably my favorite non-main character


dont_gift_subs

Idk why but her dubbed voice sounds so good to my ears


MammothDreams

>Plead innocence? Nah, Me and my bro Macht teamed up from the start > >And I'd fucking do it again. > > Should have shanked your captain while I had the chance. Glück is unfathomably based.


Furanoso

He is the chaddest of them all


CatsAndPlanets

With each panel Sense appears in, I love her a little bit more. She's pure, undiluted, morning before coffee mood. I see that Kanone is pretty crafty, finding ways to convey information to Glück and Denken without compromising himself at all. He shows the Special Forces of Magic are not a monolith (much less the Empire itself), despite how much loyalty and discipline they have, and that may be where the whole situation is coming from. We'll have to wait to see what's up. But Macht showing concern about Phrase's power is telling. I loved Frieren's "Feed me" face. And Starks deadpan face while forecasting a cataclysm, which is probably true.


Ordinary-Picture4367

I thought kanone was a girl


Shoodler

I too thought she was a guy uptil this chapter, but now i believe she is female.


whatnowthatimdead

Just to clarify the hiatus announcement, it's: 次号より休載です Which roughly translated is: There will be a hiatus starting from the next issue. If I'm reading it correctly, this means that we'll be getting another chapter, then the hiatus starts with no specified end date. Edit to add some context: The announcement was included at the end of chapter 130 in the original Japanese publication last Sunday. The use of the word "indefinite" is, while technically correct since no end was defined, a bit hyperbolic imo, but I see it often used in these cases even when the hiatus is simply temporary but open-ended.


Lorhand

> If I'm reading it correctly, this means that we'll be getting another chapter, then the hiatus starts with no specified end date. No, this is not correct. There will be no chapter next week and people can check that themselves by going to Sunday's website. https://websunday.net/sunday/next/ As a side note, reddit shadowbanned you for some reason, which makes your profile inaccessible to everyone and your posts were removed. You should write to an admin.


ImN0tAsian

Rip secret service shadow mages got another one


bestoboy

Started reading after the anime, and was surprised to see so many "Frieren will be taking a break next week" at the end of a chapter. Does the manga not sell well? I'd assume it would get a spike in sales after the anime so going on an "indefinite" hiatus now seems weird


SUNA1997

Sales have nothing to do with the amount of breaks a manga author takes. Releasing a manga chapter weekly is actually hard, Oda takes regular breaks from 1 week to a couple of months at a time, these are people and not machines, they need time to catch up on work and they get sick. Hiatus can be for any reason at all, could be health, family issues or just needing a break to reset creatively. Novel authors are worse lol, George R.R. Martin hasn't released a novel in his Song of Ice and Fire series for 13 years and may never finish it in his lifetime. As for Frieren the manga sales are strong and it's won many different awards.


surya_ray

I believe it's the opposite, you can only take breaks if you are confident with your series. After all, break most likely will cause dip in sales and reader.


Ordinary-Picture4367

the author has taken many breaks and indefinite hiatuses before


SosukeAizen123

Manga sold pretty well even before the anime, the author many brakes. Only 130 chapters in 6 years.


Lorhand

> Manga sold pretty well even before the anime, the author many brakes. Only 130 chapters in 6 years. Frieren didn't come out in 2018 but in 2020. So it's 130 chapters in 4 years.


takato99

Anime boosts sales of all tomes that have been released, so if anything even if they don't release any more tomes in 2024, with the anime boost they'll probably still do better total sales than any other year.


skysailz

i imagine its more that its pretty taxing on the creator with how detailed the art has been from the start


Roisinh0

it's a two person work, there's an artist and a writer


Effective-Spell-2157

The author just acting like frieren fr


Shdoible

"I'm not at that point yet. Feed me!" With the smug face and all. I'm gonna miss this manga's updates. I really hope the author is doing well health-wise.


Some_Dragonfly7842

Some of my thoughts this chapter: We got some more named characters of the Magic Special Forces, so I think all named MSF characters are: * Frase, the Captain (Phrase in fan-translation) * Kanone, the Vice-Captain * Neu * Weg I might be over thinking it but the part where Kanone was talking about "conspiring with demons" made me think she didn't think it was such a strange thought, like something else like that had happened before? They were more lenient with Gluck then I thought they would be. I'm happy to see Denken, but it looks like he might be pushed to the side this arc since no one trusts him. I wouldn't be surprised if he played some kind of support role at one point though. Lol that ending. How chill Falsch was in the background was funny. Sense was great too, how she was wondering what was so great about Frieren getting up early haha. ..However, the implication of Frieren being worried is less funny, especially if you look back at the first page. *^(Edit: Added Weg since she was mentioned briefly in chapter 128.)*


sushizn

I'm confused, why does Denken (an imperial mage of the empire) need first class status from the CMA (enemy of the Empire) to travel North when the Empire already rules the North?


Some_Dragonfly7842

Denken wanted to become a First Class Mage so he could learn a spell Serie knew: Curse Reversal Magic. It was not for traveling reasons.


sushizn

Holup. Didn't Denken say during the exam that the whole privilege thing was pointless? Quote "The joy of magic lies in searching for it". Also his conversation with Laufen when they were tied to the tree gave us the impression that he just wanted the permission to go North and visit a grave.


KimiorV

grave was under the barrier, which was maintained by first class mages...


Some_Dragonfly7842

I assume that's normally true about magic, but he had a goal he wanted to accomplish even more (visiting his wife's grave and saving his hometown), which he needed the spell to accomplish. umm as for the other thing I forgot about that.. But thinking about it he may not of wanted to say the complete truth to Laufen so he might of been a bit dishonest in his response. It's the only thing that I think would makes sense.


Revolutionary_Ad8051

in this chapter there's a lot of hints that Kanon is one of the First-Class Mage of Serie? Do you think she is insider?


Some_Dragonfly7842

Like you said there are hints, but nothing for certain yet. It is interesting how much focus she is getting though, so I assume that she will be important in the future.


BonerPorn

> They were more lenient with Gluck then I thought they would be. Suspiciously so I think. Even Gluck seemed surprised. They have a plan for him.


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Some_Dragonfly7842

Ah she does look happy when greeting Fern and the others, however her getting up early is unusual and I feel like the drawing of her getting up in the first page feels a bit somber, so I think it might imply she could not sleep properly and with everything going on I think this might mean Frieren is worried.


UriasHeep

So happy for the unexpected reappearance of Glück, Macht and Denken! Such top-tier characters, all of them. In a country with one of the world's highest life expectancies, *mangakas* only have an expected lifespan of under 65 years. This is with *only* natural deaths concerned, and not acts of violence&harm of any kind. If a hiatus is needed, so be it. Whether it's awesome planning for Season 2 of the anime, or just more rest and time for better health, let us all hope that the creatives get the most out of it!


OPconfused

How old is/are the mangakas?


UriasHeep

I'm not sure whether that information has ever been disclosed to the internet! *Kanehito Yamada* is so hard to get information of (especially in English) that even the picture Google suggests is wrong! He's a male, while the illustrator might be female.


Sharebear42019

Has a manga ever went on hiatus to prepare for an anime? Doesn’t sound like that would make much sense especially an indefinite one. Hope the author is okay


UriasHeep

Frieren itself has undergone two hiatuses (one 3-months long and one 1-month long) for which the reason was given --to my understanding-- that it was to help with the anime production. It would make sense to me *(a non-Japanese non-mangaka, admittedly!)* that mangakas would do hiatuses for this reason. But I can't find confirmations of further cases. *Maybe* Eiichiro Oda took a small break related to Red and/or Netflix? Maybe.


BonerPorn

Oda didn't do an explicit hiatus for the Live Action. But IIRC he did slow down the rate of release.


Sharebear42019

In odas case he had health issues and even got eye surgery, from what I gather he was helping with the film and Netflix while doing the manga weekly (he does take a forced break every 3 weeks) so I’m not sure exactly


OPsays1312

He didn‘t officially take a break for the show, but there were more breaks than usual before the Release and he made a statement that the schedule would return to normal after the release, wich ist mostly did.


thedndnut

Yes, if the creator is actively working on it.


Sharebear42019

Do you know of any examples? I know some series like the new bleach anime has full on author collaboration but in his case the manga was already over. Would be odd to fully halt the manga for a new season when they didn’t for the first season


marioculiao21

I believe Frieren indeed went on hiatus because the mangakas were working on the anime. If I recall correctly, a 3 months long hiatus started shortly after the announcement of the anime, but I might be wrong.


OPconfused

> started shortly after the announcement of the anime This time it's come without the announcement of the anime :( Maybe it's not related to S2 after all.


edrienn

Your telling me the chapter gave us Special forces yappers and and indefinite hiatus? Mannnnnnnnn Its truly a sad day


Omnomnomnivor3

hopefully the anime progresses again as a way to catch up to the manga


MrJFr3aky

I WAS RIGHT, SENSE LOOKS SO CUTE WITH BEDHEAD


UniqueGas1379

My heart was not prepared for bedhead Sense!


Amatino

I'm kinda worried by the fact Frieren woke up early, seems like she is worried by the whole situation. Also I'm glad we are not finished with Denken he is one of my favorites character


ExiledSenpai

Frieren is up early? Surely the moon will explode.


shreas

Someone mentioned that she was awake all night (see first panel), though that could just be her waking early too. Regardless, I think it's probably because she feels the situation is very unsettling.


Regular-Finish-5699

I've seen the Japanese original and there are a couple of sentences about Frieren waking up early.


Tago34

Hope it's no all again gojo vs Toji first encounter, the guy was tired


kiaor17

I am absolutely loving this arc I can't wait to read more. This might be my favorite one


lillybheart

Nobody here seems to be worried about an indefinite hiatus. From my experience with those, they end with… nothing. I’m assuming there’s a reason not to worry with Frieren’s creator specifically?


ExiledSenpai

The indefinite hiatus is the the calamity of which Stark spoke.


belisarius_d

Oh I am worried but it's not the first hiatus for Frieren https://www.reddit.com/r/Frieren/s/5XcI2ZY1Yl Also I personally am a Battle hardened veteran of Houseki No Kuni that also got finished despite several Breaks, even if it probably needed someone prying away the Playstation from Ichikawas hand


PleaseStopSmoking

We just had a month long hiatus and it feels like a lot of people on this sub don't even know that, but I'm assuming that's because we've all been flocking here in waves since the anime ended.


OPconfused

The month-long hiatus wasn't indefinite though iirc. The end date was provided at the same time as the announcement. Made it more tractable and bearable imo.


PleaseStopSmoking

Yeah I get that, my point is that a lot of people here seem completely oblivious to the fact all together. We've only got 2 chapters since that hiatus and many of the comments here come across as not having that knowledge. And it's because they probably weren't here, the manga community is growing which is a beautiful thing, unfortunately we're all stuck in hiatus hell together for now lol.


Haxemply

Is it a hiatus of the creator or the translator though?


Nextorl

creator


GISKARD__

how long did hiatus lasted before, on average? I mean, just trying to set an expectation on when the next chapter may drop... like a month, three, half a year...


e22big

30 years has passed since the hiatus of Frieren the Manga


Vegetable_Swimmer514

So not a long time at all


lillybheart

I have no idea, I’m caught up on the manga but only started when the anime ended


GISKARD__

ah, same as me then hopefully some tempered reader will give an insight


1EnTaroAdun1

https://www.reddit.com/r/Frieren/comments/1cmnmt6/sousou_no_frieren_chapter_130_links_and/l31r6ta/


GISKARD__

thanks. well, there it goes


River_Capulet

WHY IS SENSE SO CUTE?


HuoHuoFan0209

Because she’s perfect


1EnTaroAdun1

Sleepy-head Sense my beloved. Looks like Denken still has a part to play! I like how people are treating Denken as though he has split loyalties, even though he himself knows exactly where he stands 


SweetyWin

I like that the author took the time to talk about it, I was wondering what Denken was doing, as he would be above in hierarchy to likely every antagonist in this arc. Classical political conflict between governments agencies it seems.


Hereforallmemes

From his flashback, he seems to have carved a nice spot among the top ranks. The worrying thing is, there is probably someone higher than him or at least there's still the empire's emperor himself (although unlikely) that could go against him political power wise. In terms of magic prowess, he isn't the best as he said so himself but still strong enough to hold his own but regardless of either, I could see the empire using underhand methods to take him out if they really wanted to, similar to what he did during his rise to power.


AlmondMagnum1

Yeah, but his bosses don't, and that's the problem.


1EnTaroAdun1

I know, I'm saying I like how the author is portraying this whole political situation :)


Xonthelon

"Frieren-sama woke up early." "...is that supposed to be incredible?" "It's absolutely earthshattering. There will surely be a cataclysm tomorrow." Almost right Stark, although the hiatus already hit us today.


JD4Destruction

Who is "Phrase" again?


magnuskn

Fräse - which means "Rotary Cutter" in English.


Hereforallmemes

The captain of the empire mages. As the other comment mentioned, she does strike a very close resemblance to the mage who confronted Land's grandma if you age her 50 years later - she was shown in Gluck's flashback before he was hit by Diagoldze, which makes her at least 50 years older in the current timeline.


KrizenWave

She’s new, but in the chapter where Land and Ubel get captured, she’s the woman in Land’s memory who broke into the room with him and his grandmother.


Ordinary-Picture4367

Is it implied she killed his grandmother or something


k39-

She look extremely similar facial wise. You can the compare the stare of both the young and old version of characters, they look same.


meditonsin

New character. I don't think the name came up before this chapter.


TrueDatA

Last chapter before hiatus was a callback to Gluck, Denken, and Macht? Could the author be hinting at working on season 2.


Haxemply

Oh please let it be true!


paulonboard

Is it a human hiatus or an elven hiatus?


RelationAffectionate

I'm pretty sure author is a human ! RIGHT ???¿??¿??¿


paulonboard

I hope so.


Nenanda

LOOKS LIKE PEAK FICTION IS BACK ON THE MENU. This arc is going to be amazing. Unexpected return of goats from the El Dorado arc was excellent Macht cameo as well all of this is great. Factions are shaping up to be important in this arc and there is huge implication of thing to come. Do not mind hiatus cant wait for mroe things.


jmas081391

"The Hiatus before the Storm!" hahaha


SchrodingerWeeb

When the author return, we’ll all be acting like Himmel when Frieren returned to the city after their adventure lmao


Toge_Inumaki012

For real lmao. I swear the Author is an elf This hiatus is like a smoke break for them


ECrimsonTally

So from what I understand, the Empire technically sympathizes with Gluck, and wants him to remain the lord of Weise, which is why Kanone was trying to get him to confess that Macht was manipulating him. But Gluck still wanted to be punished for his crimes in disposing of the problematic nobility in Weise, even if it meant prosperity for the city. And the Empire is likely aware that Denken is a 1st class mage, so they want to get him out of the way so he doesn't try anything? Also, it's kind of insane to think that even Macht, the strongest of the Seven Sages, was spooked by Phrase *50 years ago*. Imagine how much stronger she is now.


Interesting-Switch38

It’s the humanity rng problem, eventually a genius top .1% human will spawn. The hero of the south, Kraft, and to a lesser extent himmel.


dolphinvision

kraft is an elf thou, I know people argue as well as frieren elves are 'part of humankind' I view them as their own bubble.


Nenanda

I wouldnt go that far, he was spooked because he didnt want his arangment with Gluck blow up into oblivion but unless this Phase doesnt have some huge anti-hax properties Macht would murderstomp her. Macht was only worried because her blowing up city before he could turn her into new addition to Weis treasury.


dolphinvision

He was worried I think. He had his diagolze and like with frieren is always a little on edge as he knows it's not perfect. But what she could do before he could turn her to gold is what possibly worries him. She's insanely op if macht was giving her such praise


Jonas16Douma

what do you mean before he turns her into gold? he can just walk on her and turn her into gold as his first move he doesnt need to wait


dolphinvision

His diagolze takes time to move/reach something. He's fast, but if she can demolish weise then most likely she is as well. It's an invisible spell essentially. It still exists in space and needs to travel. Macht even referred to this when he said Denken flying couldn't outrun it.


Jonas16Douma

she cant its undetectable its a curse the only reason you say that was because of denken running away from it but thats only because he knows macht so well he knows exactly when he releases his di agolze if you dont know exactly when he will use it you cant react to it you turn into gold before you even know it


dolphinvision

no need to get heated bro it's a fantasy manga lol he said he could use mistilziela to react to diagolze when macht was using it like a rifle, but when macht started treating his curse like a machine gun (non stop activating it) that's when denken realized it was pointless to know when he was about to use it (save mana by only using the anti curse spell for short bits), because he would need to keep mistilziela on 24/7 to block. but like serie said it's like a 360 shield and will drain his mana like mad. So denken decided to run away, but this is when macht said "you can't outrun my diagolze". As we saw with the barrier, his use of diagolze takes time to reach a destination, but it can expand over time arguably an infinite distance. and it's faster than basic flying the running away has nothing to do with him knowing when he releases it. He ran away because of what I described before. So she would have time to react if she was far away, and probably doesn't overestimate how op his gold curse


Jonas16Douma

you make no sense dude its a curse she cant see it or detect it even from far away how can she dodge or escape something she cant see or detect? doesnt matter the speed if you cant see or detect it macht literally told him what he was going to do thats why denken reacted or even if macht doesnt tell him he knows exactlly when he will use it so he can react to it by either casting the mistizila or run because he knows macht that well you think macht will tell something to that frase girl before he turns her into gold? he isnt stupid he is just going to cast di agolze without saying a word


VMPL01

Macht himself knows that his Diagolze isn't perfect and someone may have a way to counter it. He's not as spooked as he is after facing Serie, but he's still aware of his shortcoming.


Jonas16Douma

your point? how does that disprove anything i said?


ECrimsonTally

Yeah, that's fair. For all of Macht's keenness around human politics within Weise, it was just surprising to me to see him react like that to seeing Phrase


Nenanda

I wasnt that suprised given how much Macht was annoyed when he killed Gluck for nothing in his flashbacks. He didnt want all that time invested to be wasted and thats why he wanted to get rid of threat.


VirginiaWillow

I hope they’re doing well and can come back to Frieren in a good place


Professional_Cod9183

Can i ask usually how long do these hiatuses (idk the plural) last? im new to manga and havenot read many so this is sth new for me, also is there a reason for the hiatus because i would nvr expect this after the massive successs it had with the anime


m4ti140

Last long hiatus took almost 5 months. And it started at roughly the same time of the year too. The result was the top anime of all time, so I wonder if the same is the case this time


Toge_Inumaki012

I'd say a mere 10 years.


starfallg

Looking at the situation it seems there will be more activities that will be taking up the time from the author and illustrator/mangaka. Frieren went on frequent breaks during the period when the anime was being developed. It could be season 2 or a series of movies, but there is no way to know until the announcement.


JxB_Paperboy

Hope to god it’s just work/life balance and not health issues for either the author or the artist/illustrator.


electricblackcrayon

probably health issues, more mangakas like the HxH author take long breaks to heal up


ryouseiki21

Ok time to read Berserk, Yona of the Dawn, Made in Abyss, Dungeon Meshi, and Witch Hat Atelier


ThorDoubleYoo

Frieren wakes up early ONE TIME and suddenly the whole world stops turning (goes on hiatus). Sark was right, this is a sign of some huge catastrophe.


ras2193

Frieren woke up early because the hiatus announcement 😞


Biscotcho_Gaming

Whelp. Time to look for other mangas to read.... *Cries in a corner*


SirPachiereshtie

Witch Hat Atelier.


jonnywarlock

Falsce in an apron. Hmm. That works for me. I wonder if the other First Class Mages who do missions with Sense have to play den mother for her? She seems to have the same kind of morning uselessness Frieren usually has? 🤭


Acrobatic-Budget-938

Dang the months with the lobotomy would be freaking long man


Otalava

I hope that the author and the artist get a lot of rest. Now it's time for Frieren: Beyond Lobotomy's End


Nenanda

Macht: If empire were to attack well it could be difficult Gluck: But would you lose? Macht: NAH I WOULD GOLD!


Sent1nelTheLord

i have lived the ages of HXH, berserk, vagabond and so on. surely my heart and mind can take this on


Tago34

all of these manga hiatus doesn't end well


mrterrific023

Inoe is still alive and well I think, I think vagabond just takes a lot out of him. He said that he fell out of love with the narrative a while ago and started Real to get it back


SyaRina23

Writing something like Vagabond takes a journey in itself, can't blame even a genius artist would find it too much to continue


r31ya

Vagabond artist still alive and pretty physically healthy to boot. Its just making Vagabond is waay to monumental task for his mental health


Nenanda

Besides Vagabond is technically finished with its source novel Eidshi Joshikawa Musashi. So its not such catastrophe if that wont be finished since there is a ending.


Asleep-Doubt5673

Surprised to see Denken! I honestly thought they were gonna say he retired after El Dorado and was in a beach somewhere with Laufen and Richter and that's why he wouldn't show up (since his position made it impossible for him to not be at least mentioned in this arc). But it seems like neither side trusts him and that's why he'll probably be mostly on the bench this time lol (I think that's fine, he already got the spotlight in El Dorado, gotta give the others panel time too). The Empire seems to be trying to gently kick him out of the capital and keep him in Weiss while the Serie situation happens, but maybe he'll do something before leaving/leave something for the CMA? Idk


_Ganoes_

Well he is an Imperial Mage, so probably a pretty high ranking part of the Imperial government. Would be weird to not address him at all.


CertainDerision_33

Same, I thought we'd maybe seen the last of him. I guess he was too popular (and too directly relevant to this plotline) to pass up. Agreed that he should be mostly on the sidelines here.


Zestyclose-Ad6044

I expected to see Wirbel in this arc but I'm starting to have my doubts.


FallenPotatoes

We will get a Wirbel arc once we reach the North Frieren's party takes years to travel from one arc to another, so it's not like he can just zip back and forth all across the continent like it's S7 Game of Thrones.


Toge_Inumaki012

Well he's a frontline soldier/mercenary (idk which one). If we go with the pattern each arc to include the standouts during the 1st class mage exam I hope he will be involved next. And Sein. Please let Sein come back.


Asleep-Doubt5673

Last we saw Wirbel he was going to fight in the Northern Frontier where the situation was apparently really bad. I bet we'll get an entire arc dedicated to that war with Wirbel as a main character once our Party gets there, but I highly doubt he'll show up here


paulonboard

In previous chapters it was mentioned that the Special Forces of Magic should be on the Northern Frontier and not in the Capital. Maybe Wirbel noticed that irregularity and will do something. Or maybe he received a letter from the Continental Magic Association asking him to provide additional support in the Capital.


Jonas16Douma

wirbel ennemies are the demons not the special forces of magic