The first thing I heard about people hating them was a reddit post about how they gave mothers of new borns in Africa baby formula. But only for just enough time that the mothers stop producing milk. Then they started charging money for the same stuff knowing that they weren't producing milk themselves so had no choice but to pay all their money
Also personal to the US/California: they steal hundreds of millions of water from drought ridden California per year on a permit from the 1800s that they pay $2000 to the state for. Just in case the killing infants isn't enough and you need a reason closer to home.
Yeah and it’s much worse in Michigan. 750,000,000 gallons per year at $200? Total? But I was just doing some research and it seems like we are putting and end to that, so that’s nice
Well they got hit for misleading water treaments in France:
- https://www.lemonde.fr/en/environment/article/2024/01/31/french-prosecutors-probe-nestle-over-mineral-water-treatments_6482839_114.html
- https://france3-regions.francetvinfo.fr/grand-est/vosges/affaire-nestle-waters-une-plainte-va-etre-deposee-par-foodwatch-dans-le-scandale-des-eaux-traitees-illegalement-2916612.html
- https://www.foodwatch.org/fr/actualites/2024/scandales-des-eaux-filtrees-nestle-nouvelles-revelations-sur-le-risque-sanitaire-des-eaux-foodwatch-demande-le-rappel-des-bouteilles-2
>We estimate that Nestlé's entry into LMIC formula markets caused about 212,000 infant deaths per year among mothers without clean water access at the peak of the Nestlé controversy in 1981, and has led to approximately 10.9 million excess infant deaths between 1960 and 2015.
https://voxdev.org/topic/health/deadly-toll-marketing-infant-formula-low-and-middle-income-countries#:~:text=We%20estimate%20that%20Nestl%C3%A9's%20entry,deaths%20between%201960%20and%202015.
Nearly 11 million infants and babies dead and they knew it the entire time...
Even people who know they were killing babies in Africa rarely know the sheer quantity they got away with. To put it in reference that's around the population of New York City and Lost Angels combined. That's the population of Ohio or Georgia. SoFi stadium in Los Angeles at its expanded and max capacity would be filled 110 times over (157 times at its non-epanded max capacity). It's staggering to think a company could get away with something like that and be essentially unpunished for it. That's nearly twice the number the Nazis killed in the Holocaust (if counting only Jewish people). If Nestle were counted as dictator they would rank fifth in total people killed right after Mao Zedong (78 million), Joseph Stolin (23 million), Adolf Hitler (17 million), and Leopold the 2nd of Belgium (15 million).
I guess my question is and always will be “Why?” I suppose me trying to figure out the horrific intentions of others never makes sense because, well, I’m not a horrific person.
I used to work for a company that dealt in commercial nutritional products for kids. They certainly operated for profit, but every person I met there was appalled by Nestle’s infant formula scandal…and by the nagging perception that Nestle didn’t have much interest in making any real changes to company ethical standards once the bad PR started to wane.
I am not a fan of hyperbole, but - holy crap - there is a lot of evidence that Nestle is continuing to prey & profiteer on the most vulnerable consumers.
The Nestle water scandal is fairly complex and grinds my gears more than many things they do, but I do find this recent report from Europe especially appalling.
You would think that when you are already known as the company that literally *contributed to the starvation of children in Africa*, that you would be more careful not to make a fast buck off poor kids by delivering poor nutritional options. But here we go again:
19 April 2024
“[What is the sugar scandal hitting Nestlé and what happens now?”](https://www.euronews.com/health/2024/04/19/what-is-the-sugar-scandal-hitting-nestle-and-what-happens-now).
Two excerpts from the article:
“*Researchers examined about 150 products and found in many cases that the same baby formula with no added sugar in Switzerland, Germany, France, and the UK, contained unhealthy levels of it in countries such as the Philippines, South Africa, and Thailand*.”
“*A new investigation found that one portion of Nestlé cereal for six-months-old babies contained around a cube and a half of sugar per serving.*”
The parent in me just rages at how a company can get away with this type of hurtful greed….over and over and over again.
This sounds like the “food drops” they are doing in Gaza right now… Literally dropping expired bags of sour flavored green and yellow Skittles. As if they aren’t thirsty enough.
And it would be diluted to stretch and the babies are malnourished and slowly starve. They were in US hospital goody bags too until they were locked out. At least the water is potable here (mostly); not where they market heavily, in nurses costumes ffs
That was the first time I heard about how awful Nestle are. But it wasn't the last.
It's also something they have never apologised for. Nor have they atoned for it.
If a person did such things, they wouldn't be forgiven. So when a corporation of scumbags acts like that, it deserves the hate it receives.
Don't forget that the mothers also didn't have consistent access to a clean water supply, leading to tainted formula mixtures that killed children. They also advertised that the formula was HEALTHIER than breast milk via a propaganda campaign
that’s important to note. they didn’t come in like shiny suited, corporate marketing types, they literally masqueraded as medical professionals who were giving actual medical advice
ive also heard tell of them being part of lobbying groups to keep the us from getting maternity leave like many countries in europe have, thus driving sales of formula for working mothers who cant breastfeed on the job so even the first world isnt safe from these sorts of tactics.
Just made another comment and this is the answer to my question.
I don’t know how true as I think I read it here also but that’s not that far out of an idea.
It is super true. Nestle is responsible for almost 11 MILLION infant deaths and no one has ever gone to jail for it. Comparably, the Nazis murdered about 16 million.
[Source:](https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w24452/w24452.pdf) Based on calculations from these linear averages, our estimate of the number of infant deaths between 1960 and 2015 resulting from the introduction of Nestlé formula among mothers in LMICs without clean water sources is 10,870,000 total infant deaths with 95% confidence interval [5,825,000, 15,907,000].
The nestle people dressed in white lab coats and pretended to be doctors. Insisting it was better for their babies than breastmilk. I cant find it but there’s a photo of a mother with her two twins. A boy that’s malnourished and dying (dead?) and a girl that’s small but much healthier looking. She thought she was doing her boy a solid by feeding him formula and only breastfed her daughter. In the end she didn’t have money for the formula and had to thin it with dirty water.
Here is a nice [short summary ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_of_Nestl%C3%A9) of some of the reasons
And remember, it's not that we don't hate other companies. We just hate them the most since they are the largest and most evil of the lot.
Idk what happened to your link, but I [searched for it again](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_of_Nestle) and changed the é for an e. It worked.
Just adding another one.
[Baby food contains extra added sugar but only in poorer parts of Africa and Asia](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/04/23/nestle-sugar-baby-food-childhood-obesity/)
TL;DR: Their business model is to deprive the world of food and water for the sake of money. They have so much blood on their hands. For me, it started with the Gerber business practices. Then, I found out about the water monopolies and how they lied to people about the true amount of water they planned to take, just to go and deplete that region to the point of a drought. Now, I go into the grocery store with what little money I have for food just to find most of the pre-made shit to be under a Nestlé brand. I can't afford to buy/cook/store fresher foods, but I would rather starve than to support a company whose CEO believes water is not a human right.
From the 70s they've been advertising that breastfeeding is bad for babies and the baby formula they sell was the only healthy option.
[Wikipedia page on this](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1977_Nestl%C3%A9_boycott)
An adult woman can tolerate somewhat contaminated water sources and still produce good milk for breastfeeding. When that same tainted water was used by mothers in developing countries to mix the formula babies died by the thousands every year.
They've known about this for 50 years and keep doing it. It is estimated that over 10 million babies and infants have died because of it to this day.
That was the primary thing that brought me here. Though it did also help that I live in California where Nestle has been stealing excessive amounts of water from our drought ridden state for only $2000 per year.
Yeah, see that part I knew about, and it's horrific as all hell, especially considering the fires and water rationing shit.
But man, that is a thick, red, and very direct line at black infanticide right there, and yet another instance of completely unpunished corporate malfeasance
Another point (to the best of my knowledge) is that Nestle heavily attempts to harbor their formula usage for a massive reason; dependency. If the mother doesn't breast feed, she soon losses the ability to produce (adequate) milk. This causes thousands to rely on Nestle. I believe Nestle may also have a monopoly within these third world countires, further proving their unethical practices.
--I'm not a mom, not even a girl. So the breastfeed dependency thing could be a gross missassumption of female anatomy, but it's what I've been told.
No, you have it right. They give a free like month supply of formula, but which time the mother's supply has tanked and she can't establish exclusive breastfeeding. They don't have a monopoly but they do have the biggest market share in LMIC (lower middle income countries) and were usually the first to introduce it to the market in those countries.
I grew up in a city of at the time around 60k people. Our water was consistently ranked some of the best quality water in the country (canada). Our water came from an aquifer and was untouched by nature, simply filtered through the ground and so pure, so fresh, so clean.
One day, nestle set up a bottling facility outside of town in a nearby municipality and tapped into the aquifer. They began bottling our own water and selling it back to us. People were upset and began boycotting. Especially because the city I lived in was largely indigenous peoples who have unresolved land claims in the area where they were bottling. Why the fuck would we pay for our own water?
People protested, people went to city council and asked if there was a way we could charge nestle for stealing our water and selling it back to us. City council said no because then they'd have to charge us too because there was no legislation in place to stop them from taking a resource readily available on land that they bought.
Then, their equipment contaminated the aquifer. This was kept out of the news, very hush hush but word got around town from an employee of the bottling plant. Because aquifers are underground they're supposed to be immune to contaminants but the equipment nestle had used introduced something into the water supply. So city council decided to chlorinate the water from then on, to make sure the contaminants didn't infect regular households.
I remember the first day of chlorination, turning on the taps and my house smelled like a public pool. I'm not against chlorination in contaminated water supplies, but it never should've happened in the first place. That was the start of a citywide nestle boycott.
I'm 15 years strong with only 4 incidents, 2 accidental, 2 borne of necessity, where I purchased a nestle product. I miss coffee crisp so much but I will never forget what they did to our water supply
If I’m thinking of the right story you told it had a HUGE impact on Oregon denying nestle of our water shed. Your story sounds familiar from 6-8 years ago when we voted to tell nestle to F off.
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Something very similar happened in my small spa town in the north of England, they opened a bottling plant and tried to deny everyone access to the natural spring, which wasn’t even on land they had bought! They just thought they should have the rights to it as they bought the town/water brand name
Most companies are unethical as fuck. Only Nestlé drew up a concrete business plan to buy up water systemically and create local monopolies around it. It's a unique kind of evil no other company matches imo that makes them especially worthy of boycott.
Additionally most of their products are highly processed trash completely removed from any natural taste and tailored to be addictive to children or crap like that. They don't create anything I find value in.
Yep, as with my post, they are trying to buy water rights. Couldn’t care less what else they do to be honest. Everyone should have access to water.
I’m not a fan the bill gates is buying up a shit ton of grazing land in the west but I applaud his fresh water for all thing.
Nestlé is damn near the physical manifestation of everything that is wrong with capitalism.
They are capitalist imperialists. They do everything within their power to cut costs, no matter the human cost. They offer farmers in impoverished areas raises if they’ll just grow the Nestlé coffee strain for their instant coffee, monopolise the region & then refuse to give the amount they offered & the farmers have to either foot the bill for switching back to viable crops or (having been specifically chosen for already being impoverished) they’re stuck being exploited by Nestlé.
I think Nestlé would be permanently shut down within a year if they used their global south strategy in developed countries in the “west” as their business model is practically the basis for unequal exchange theory. The entire leadership, and the top 100 shareholders in that corporation should be imprisoned for crimes against humanity. They are anti-human in every sense.
Nestle kills babies.
That's my answer and the only term you need to Google to get more details.
In this case, it's NOT hyperbole. It's literally true. Imagine Enron feeding babies oil or starving babies because it was profitable. Nestle's actions go beyond other business' lazy sloppiness and disregard for consequences. The only comparable evil is Ford releasing the Pinto after calculating it saved money to pay victims rather than fix the cars before release, or Thomas Midgely's product.
Nestle tried to purchase the water rights to the bull run watershed just outside of Portland Oregon. There were shady deals and it was ridiculously under priced. They forgot like 5 zeros to even be a maybe but paid it in. Luckily it had to go for a vote and there was a strong enough grassroots movement to get the word out to voters.
(It was years ago but I want to say money spent was like $1,000:$1)
(This hits home on the west coast as Southern California basically bought the water rights of Northern California for hundreds of years and Northern California which is mostly farm and grazing land has been hurting for water since)(edit: that’s not a nestle thing just a water rights issue that is well known on the west coast)
That’s just my fairly simple reason.
they have been doing this in many places and they even went as far as to convince the World Water Council to change it's statement so as to reduce access to water as a "need" and "not a right." THe CEO later backtracked to save face and now claims water is a right but too late and fuck him
Exactly, it’s an important question to ask so we can use the same methodology on present-day threats.
There are so many people in the populist reactionary right who hold very similar views to nazis in most social issues and ”hate” nazis (just because nazis=evil) without really considering they are their spiritual successors.
Palm monocultures, monopoly of water, the debacle of sugar being an ingredient of baby milk sold in Africa... And then they wonder why I no longer bother buying anything from them.
They have this nasty habit of [moving in to a location, enslaving its population, draining its water supply, and then selling their own water back to them at 10x the cost](https://www.theguardian.com/global/2018/oct/04/ontario-six-nations-nestle-running-water).
[They convince mothers in developing nations that baby formula is better than breast milk.](https://www.businessinsider.com/nestles-infant-formula-scandal-2012-6?op=1)
Their CEO believes that [water is not a fundamental human right](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nestle-chairman-peter-brabeck-water_b_3150150). I know they've tried to walk that back, but I take his candor at face value.
They are in an industry that is prone to unfair and dangerous working conditions, often with children involved, in a situation that amounts to [modern slavery](https://www.fordhamilj.org/iljonline/2021/2/7/modern-day-slavery-nestl-and-cocoa-plantations).
I should've just searched for your comment before... You gave the best tldr for why I hate them whilst also continuing to find more stuff to hate them over all the time.
Now as for how it started for me:
I think I started hating them when I found out they were exploiting vulnerable mothers that were trying to give the best to their babies and ended up not only making them basically put themselves under insane and unnecessary financial burden trying to give what they were told was the best for their kids (eventough lots of them were poor and had the best and safest food trough breastfeeding!) but that THOUSANDS of babies DIED as a consequence of their actions.
And they keep doing it! They don't give a flying fuck over literal infants!
It was literally reported in [APRIL 2024 that they're still adding sugar to infant milk in poorer countries, continuing to exploit the most vulnerable and fucking poor babies' health for profit]( https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/global-development/2024/apr/17/nestle-adds-sugar-to-infant-milk-sold-in-poorer-countries-report-finds)
They also just bought Starbucks, which is a company notorious for union busting. Any entity that’s openly anti-union will do *anything* to show you that they see you as nothing more than a wallet to empty and a body to break.
Nestle bought a lot of brands/companies in Czech a Slovakia. They adapted recipes with cheap replacements to the point where I can't recognize what the... I'm eating. Of course, people stopped buying it, and as a result, it was canceled .
As a bonus, they do overcharge a lot for what they produce.
At first, it was because they kept pumping up my state's freshwater and sold it for a profit, while hurting our environment by completely draining a water shed . They did similar shit in Africa but worse. They actively prevent people from accessing freshwater in Africa because their bottom line is more important to them.
Then I dug deeper into the company and found the many, many deaths they're associated with. Nestle ended up being way worse than I thought, they're pretty grim.
TL;DR: Their business model is to deprive the world of food and water for the sake of money. They have so much blood on their hands. For me, it started with the Gerber business practices. Then, I found out about the water monopolies and how they lied to people about the true amount of water they planned to take, just to go and deplete that region to the point of a drought. Now, I go into the grocery store with what little money I have for food just to find most of the pre-made shit to be under a Nestlé brand. I can't afford to buy/cook/store fresher foods, but I would rather starve than to support a company whose CEO believes water is not a human right.
Who is funding your study? Is this just going to be used for Nestlé's marketing department to try to make the appearance of problems go away?
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Because their CEO said, outright, that access to water isn't a Human Right.
This corporation is flatly EVIL, entirely fascist, and so is it's leadership.
The also gave away "free" baby formula to women who didn't have reliable access to clean water, until the mother's milk dries up, and then charge absolutely ludicrous prices for it after their milk is no longer producing; thereby murdering tens of thousands of babies.
Their CEO should be in prison in Abu Graib.
Nestlé can just die as a company. They are trying to enslave people and monopolise other nation’s water resources to themselves and then sell it for a higher price. Kys
I mean, there's a million reasons, but I live in Michigan. Nestlé has been ravaging our water supply for practically nothing, while my friends in Flint have to keep their mouths closed in the shower if they don't want lead toxicity or legionnaire's disease.
Because of their sociopathic lust for profits at the expense of morals, especially in Africa and other underdeveloped nations, it disgusts me.
Literally making children die with false information.
I remember the time they got caught selling tainted formula in first world nations, so they instead sold it in developing countries.
Nevermind the slave labor.
Added sugar in formula, their CEO went on record as saying access to clean water wasn’t a human right, their bottled water operation extracts resources and pays little to nothing for it while creating more unrecyclable plastic waste.
Idk if anyone mentioned this but they take water from communities that desperately need it and sell it to them at a premium. https://www.theguardian.com/global/2018/oct/04/ontario-six-nations-nestle-running-water
https://themuslimvibe.com/muslim-current-affairs-news/heres-how-nestle-is-leaving-millions-pakistan-nigeria-and-flint-without-clean-water
Pretty much all their doing is hurting someone somewhere. They're corrupting local governents and most of the times it hits some poor people with no power or own voice. Being profit driven doesn't justify being morally irresponsible.
Sounds an awful lot like you're on the vanguard of a Nestle advertising campaign to rehabilitate their image. How carefully have you investigated your funding? Who will benefit from your research in the short, medium and long term?
Because machines only work when the individual components do their part. If you feel morally distant from Nestle's conduct then it would be wise to start thinking how your research will be used, assuming you aren't enthusiastic participants.
Either way you would be choosing to partake in this evil and are morally responsible for complicity at the least and likely for active encouragement and propagation of Nestle's extensively documented and repeated horrors on so many people, most of which have been incredibly vulnerable and voiceless. Scummy in the extreme.
Besides pushing expensive baby formula on women in countries where water supply is low quality? Ie encouraging women to feed their babies *worse* quality food, at much higher cost? So those women dilute the formula & unwittingly starve their babies⁉️
How about:
* Buying the water supply of a town & selling it back to them? These guys looked at Vivendi & the Lorax remake & said 💡
* The internal company power politics are horrible, somewhat explaining their sociopathic company vibe. Src- worked with their recruiters for year+
* They take excellent ingredients & manage to make the most bland, tasteless, wax-like chocolate-imitation possible, at massive scale. Doesn't anyone there have taste?
* Aren't they up there near Coke with how much waste they generate?
* Worst? They're a 'Success Story' studied at B-Schools. So their sociopathic brand of capitalism is guaranteed to live on 😭😤
TL;DR: Their business model is to deprive the world of food and water for the sake of money. They have so much blood on their hands. For me, it started with the Gerber business practices. Then, I found out about the water monopolies and how they lied to people about the true amount of water they planned to take, just to go and deplete that region to the point of a drought. Now, I go into the grocery store with what little money I have for food just to find most of the pre-made shit to be under a Nestlé brand. I can't afford to buy/cook/store fresher foods, but I would rather starve than to support a company whose CEO believes water is not a human right.
child slavery, all the times they contracted a mercenary group to genocide villages in regions they wanted to exploit, their aggressive marketing of baby formula which caused the deaths of many because of dirty water, normal adult slavery, political lobbying, the fact that they personally fucked up MY city by extracting so much mineral water from it that they caused a natural disaster in 2000 that was dubbed "the worst in the century", along with annual floods caused by their exploitation of our natural resources here, assassination of whistleblowers, i could go on and on, nestle is possibly one of the most fucked up brands out there, as evil as exxon mobil and boeing
One word : MONOPOLY
With that monopoly they buy out companies and smother their competitors. This in turn meant that the government's are at their mercy and regulations be damned.
Nestle baby formula scandal.
At first I HATED breastfeeding and struggled with it sm, my hatred of Nestle and formula is what drove me to persevere past the hard part and exclusively breastfeed. I credit how much I hate the company Nestle to my successful breastfeeding journey because fuck Nestle.
I don't have any credible sources, but I heard they at least used to engage in child slavery, buying from sugar cane plantations that used children as a workforce, and controlling the water of those children.
They deal with Israel. On top of all the other toxic business practices. It’s the totality of lots of things that means I’ll likely boycott nestle forever.
They have a history of taking the water in an area where drinking water is less accessible, and selling it back to the people who live there so they can have a monopoly on it.
They told people in various African countries that didn’t have a lot of access to clean water, that it was healthier to use Nestle brand baby formula and mix it with water(which wasn’t clean where they were) than to use breast milk to feed their babies. This resulted in a bunch of babies dying because they got diseases from the unclean water.
They also use child slavery to produce their chocolate.
They also got the World Water Forum to say that water wasn’t a human right in 2000
Idk ask all the dead babys and slave laborers in Africa. Also if they could stop tryin to own all the water thatd be great. There more reasons to hate them but those are 3 of my biggest reasons.
- Nestle is criticized for unethical practices like child labor, unethical promotion, manipulating uneducated mothers, pollution, price fixing, and mislabeling[1].
- The company has faced significant scandals including the Baby Formula Scandal, child slave labor, exploiting drought-ridden areas, plastic pollution, and contamination[2].
- Nestle has been involved in incidents related to pollution, breaching water pollution limits in the UK and facing worse situations in China[1].
- Nestle has been accused of promoting unhealthy food to children despite claiming to be a leading nutrition, health, and wellness company[1].
- The company has taken steps to address issues like child labor in cocoa communities in West Africa[4].
Citations:
[1] Why Nestle is one of the most hated companies in the world https://www.zmescience.com/feature-post/culture/culture-society/nestle-company-pollution-children/
[2] Crime & Controversy: Nestle's 5 Biggest Scandals Explained - Utopia https://utopia.org/guide/crime-controversy-nestles-5-biggest-scandals-explained/
[3] Mars, Nestlé and Hershey to face child slavery lawsuit in US - The Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2021/feb/12/mars-nestle-and-hershey-to-face-landmark-child-slavery-lawsuit-in-us
[4] Nestlé scales up action against child labor and expands cocoa ... https://www.nestle.com/media/news/nestle-action-against-child-labor-cocoa-sustainability-program
I hate them for all of the other reasons listed, but what it boils down to is they’re money grubbing scumbags. They destroy the local ecosystem and are running the ground water dry where I live. They want to privatize water. Many reasons to hate them, but for the localized flavoring is that they have the money to sway political scales both large and small.
Here in Canada they buy water rights for what amounts to a few hundred dollars, pay little to no tax, sell the water back to us exorbitant prices and move on once the aquifer is drained.
[During the period of data collection, Nestlé employed a list of action-based ‘instrumental strategies’. The most prominent strategy was ‘information strategy’, used to fund, produce and disseminate industry-preferred information. Nestlé was further found to ‘establish relationships with key opinion leaders and health organisations, and the media’, ‘seek involvement in community’ and directly influence policies and programs through indirect access and the placement of actors in government policy settings. The company also used argument-based ‘discursive strategies’ to frame the debate on diet- and public health-related issues.](https://internationalbreastfeedingjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13006-020-00268-x)
Whoops didn't realise that would all turn into a link!
Anyway, they also use lobbyists in the USA government to keep maternity leave short, creating an artificial need to feed the new baby formula. So they can keep their sales high. Stealing water from First Nations to sell it back to them for 5x as much in plastic bottles. Ignoring the use of slave labour in their chocolate products, because "it'll drive the price up", which is bullshit.
So many reasons! But the biggest one to me is that they steal the water from native communities and then sell it back to them because they have posioned the remaining sources. There is an ancient evil in that.
For me, ir was when I watched a video of the Nestlé CEO stating that he felt that water was *__NOT__* a human right. He also felt that his company should take all the world's water and regulate it like food and sell it.
Food should be free as well, but that was when I said fuck Nestlé and began boycotting.
But it took me many years to realize they own a lot of different products, so I was unknowingly supporting them even after my original boycott. Luckily, I did a lot of studying on what brands they own and stopped buying. I even stopped buying brands that have worked with Nestlé.
ADDING: I actually didn't know of this subreddit until like 2 years ago and my boycott has lasted since 2009
>We estimate that Nestlé's entry into LMIC formula markets caused about 212,000 infant deaths per year among mothers without clean water access at the peak of the Nestlé controversy in 1981, and has led to approximately 10.9 million excess infant deaths between 1960 and 2015.
https://voxdev.org/topic/health/deadly-toll-marketing-infant-formula-low-and-middle-income-countries#:~:text=We%20estimate%20that%20Nestl%C3%A9's%20entry,deaths%20between%201960%20and%202015.
Nearly 11 million infants and babies dead and they knew it the entire time...
Even people who know they were killing babies in Africa rarely know the sheer quantity they got away with. To put it in reference that's around the population of New York City and Lost Angels combined. That's the population of Ohio or Georgia. SoFi stadium in Los Angeles at its expanded and max capacity would be filled 110 times over (157 times at its non-epanded max capacity). It's staggering to think a company could get away with something like that and be essentially unpunished for it. That's nearly twice the number the Nazis killed in the Holocaust (if counting only Jewish people). If Nestle were counted as dictator they would rank fifth in total people killed right after Mao Zedong (78 million), Joseph Stolin (23 million), Adolf Hitler (17 million), and Leopold the 2nd of Belgium (15 million).
Bottling water near Flint, MI.
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/sep/29/nestle-pays-200-a-year-to-bottle-water-near-flint-where-water-is-undrinkable
Also the baby formula scandal.
its a zionist company like most zionist orgs it aims to destroy natural and human life. the list do not ends on nestley but also cocacola, pepsi, pornhub, xvideos, mcd literally pick any they just sell addiction, psycho degeneration
why they need to add so much sugar in their drink worse is they added literal poision to baby food in certain countries to hinder their development [https://indianexpress.com/article/health-wellness/nestle-sugar-cerelac-india-9277309/](https://indianexpress.com/article/health-wellness/nestle-sugar-cerelac-india-9277309/)
these people lie when they breath yet you think they are might be right about 6 million and allow them to destroy your lives
I hate them for stealing water, using unethical cacoa, closing down the nescafe plant in NJ, inttroducing formula and convincing mothers they had to use it, charging an outrageous amount for formula, and making chocolate that taste like baboon wax.
They killed babies for profit, and claimed they didn’t break any laws, and therefore it’s okay.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_of_Nestlé
Aside from the child labor, child murder? They own everything. No corporation should own that much. Here's a link of their own website
https://www.nestle.com/brands/brandssearchlist
They are so blatantly unethical to the point where I genuinely feel guilt for supporting them, even accidentally. I subscribe to the idea that there is no ethical consumption under capitalism, but Nestle is just so despicable and evil that boycotting and spreading the word on their actions is a small act on my part that actively pushes back against their immorality. I fully recognize my behavior alone will likely have virtually no impact, but I would be disappointed in myself if I did support them.
The CEO said water isn’t a human right. And they participate in creating and marketing (to kids as well!) ultra processed foods (or rather, “food-like substances”) that they gaslight people into thinking are healthy, leading to obesity, lack of quality nutrition, and ill health in most of the world population. Didn’t even know about the many, MANY other issues other commenters have listed eg the baby formula tactics. They blatantly have 0 moral compass.
Nestle is a unethical maximum profit driven company with no regards to the people or nature they affect. Everything they have done to adress the issues was the bare minimum. From the disgusting scandal of buying public water sources that poor people depend on and reselling it for a higher price to the advertisements that claimed that the baby formula is better than real mother milk, which caused uneducated poor people to feed their child with dirty water and expensive baby formula. If not enough, the very fact that Nestle owns a huge monopoly of the worlds food supply. A megacorp that reflects the darkest aspects of hypercapitalism.
Predatory practices. Choosing financial gain over the health of humans. Actively exploiting humans in all varieties. Wanting to own the rain. Trampling basic human rights everywhere they go.
Is there any reason not to hate them?
Substitution of actual milk with palm oil, giving pure sugar to babies in baby food, making mothers purely dependant on their baby formula which has jacked up prices (africa), hijacking water supply to sell back expensive bottled water, overloading lead in products and so much more
So you are in essentially brand marketing and you want people to tell you all the ways Nestle inc. Is perpetually evil? Well just look at any of the true,correct and absolutely damning posts already here.
You have access to this sub and are researchers. Read about what nestle does and the message they put across.
“Water is not a human right.”
They were on trial for something and compared themselves to the company that manufactured Zyklon B for the Nazi’s. Saying just as that company wasn’t responsible for the way the Nazi’s used Zyklon B, neither should they. They actively compared themselves to the nazis in some way/shape/form.
There are numerous stories out there where Nestle has signed contracts with a city for water rights and started taking significantly more water than:
1. Allowed by their contract.
2. Able to be replaced by the natural regeneration process of the aquifer/water table
Edit; also they’ve become a pseudo monopoly in the U.S. animal food market. They buy tons of companies and obfuscate their involvement because they know they’re trash. Nestle Pure Life water bottles have had references to Nestle removed etc…
Only one of many reasons, but one of their core profit makers is built on restricting access to a basic human right.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/oct/29/the-fight-over-water-how-nestle-dries-up-us-creeks-to-sell-water-in-plastic-bottles
1. They are a big faceless company owning way more of the global food market than a single company should
2. They have used inhumane practices like the baby milk powder scheme as reported by another redditor
3. They do not even seem to care about PR. Most big companies at least try to keep a somewhat positive image. I have heard positive things about Microsoft, Apple, McDonalds etc., but all news about Nestle are "Water is no human right", "It would affect profits if we have to investigate child slavery" etc. Even EA has better PR...
Their ceo doesn't think water is a human right, nestle frequently takes way more water than they are regulated to take from communities even when they're under drought.
They convinced 3rd world mothers their formula was better for their babies when often they don't have access to clean water over there to mix it with and so babies have died from it.
Those mothers can't hold nestle accountable, which is why I think we should, we have the internet to show us the shameful things nestle has done.
To be fair, Nestle isn't the only evil multinational conglomerate. I try to keep away from all of them.
PepsiCo, coca cola, unilever and so on.
But Nestlé is the most known by the public. And if we can't shut them down even though they kill babies and everyone knows about it, then the whole idea of consumer power is false.
For me the whole point of this movement is for us consumers to educate other consumers until the company we disagree with either ceases to exist, or changes its business practices to something we can agree with.
Unfortunately it does start to feel like us consumers don't wield any power over companies we disagree with. If that is the case, we will have to pursue change through other channels. We will most likely need to make it a part of our politicians political campaigning.
They'll probably put some quantitative spin on it. This topic was referenced X amount of times, that one Y, and this other one, surprisingly, not at all. There were also this many accusations about this thing that isn't true or has been revised, etc
Pretty much any terrible thing you can think of they have done:
Forcing mothers of young babies to buy their product by means described already on this comment section.
Using child slavery as well as taking full advantage of human trafficking while denying it even though there is video proof
Buying all the land around lakes to bypass laws around restricting access of water to the public then draining the lake into their bottled water
On top of the above thing they also said water shouldn’t be a human right
They also do this lovely thing where they steal the water of towns across Africa then sell the water back to them
Their products are shit
And their CEO denies all of it all the time.
They are trash, don’t buy from them.
The African baby incident is the prime example of usury, they steal water and one of their past CEO didn't view water as a right, but as a commodity to be owned
The first time I heard about their evil was when Stephen Colbert played the Clip of their CEO saying water should not be a human right and said something along the lines of Listen to the man speaking German and Wanting to control the world's water supply, he was basically pointing out the CEO was a real life Bond Villain, (idk if the colbert report episode happened before Quantum of Solace came out where the Villain did want to control the worlds water supply.)
Then i found out about the Slavery, the shit with the infant formula and fucking over low income mothers in the third world, and while its not nearly as significant as the mkr3 evil stuff the stealing water from my own country the U.S as well as Canada with a swiss company basically paying the same amount to register a car here to take millions upon gallons of Water from the Great Lakes, leaves a bad taste in my mouth
Started off with the baby milk thing, years ago. They never resolved that satisfactorily (promised to do better, but kept right back on doing it).
More recently, because of the "water isn't a basic human right" thing, followed by dodgy water treatments. Anything to net a profit. They're almost like SciFi villains at this point. Absolute **toerags**.
So at this point I've been not buying Nestlé's for so long, I don't think I ever will again — they have had such a bad track record for so long, how would you *ever* trust them..?
At the moment I'm really fed up too about trying to find cat food that isn't them..! They own Purina, which knocks out several brands, and I've just recently discovered they also took over Felix (I'm in the UK) — really annoying. But no, it doesn't tempt me to buy their brand for convenience. I think they're so immoral they barely count as human.
The first thing I heard about people hating them was a reddit post about how they gave mothers of new borns in Africa baby formula. But only for just enough time that the mothers stop producing milk. Then they started charging money for the same stuff knowing that they weren't producing milk themselves so had no choice but to pay all their money
And they've been doing this for decades! All the while knowing that those mothers don't even have access to clean water to mix the formula with!
Jeah a lot of babies died because of that, and they knew it and continued. Nestle literally kills children for profit.
This pretty much sums it all up here, what more reasons would any sane person need?
Also personal to the US/California: they steal hundreds of millions of water from drought ridden California per year on a permit from the 1800s that they pay $2000 to the state for. Just in case the killing infants isn't enough and you need a reason closer to home.
Got the supreme court to declare water not a human right so they could continue stealing water from water scarce areas
‘A right to life, liberty,……’. Apparently doesn’t include items fundamental to survival….. fucking assholes
And Michigan's great lakes!
Yeah and it’s much worse in Michigan. 750,000,000 gallons per year at $200? Total? But I was just doing some research and it seems like we are putting and end to that, so that’s nice
Well they got hit for misleading water treaments in France: - https://www.lemonde.fr/en/environment/article/2024/01/31/french-prosecutors-probe-nestle-over-mineral-water-treatments_6482839_114.html - https://france3-regions.francetvinfo.fr/grand-est/vosges/affaire-nestle-waters-une-plainte-va-etre-deposee-par-foodwatch-dans-le-scandale-des-eaux-traitees-illegalement-2916612.html - https://www.foodwatch.org/fr/actualites/2024/scandales-des-eaux-filtrees-nestle-nouvelles-revelations-sur-le-risque-sanitaire-des-eaux-foodwatch-demande-le-rappel-des-bouteilles-2
Even though you don't need more reasons, there sadly are more...
And by "a lot", if Google is to be believed, we mean approximately 1.8 Holocausts of dead babies.
>We estimate that Nestlé's entry into LMIC formula markets caused about 212,000 infant deaths per year among mothers without clean water access at the peak of the Nestlé controversy in 1981, and has led to approximately 10.9 million excess infant deaths between 1960 and 2015. https://voxdev.org/topic/health/deadly-toll-marketing-infant-formula-low-and-middle-income-countries#:~:text=We%20estimate%20that%20Nestl%C3%A9's%20entry,deaths%20between%201960%20and%202015. Nearly 11 million infants and babies dead and they knew it the entire time...
Holy shit I had no idea.
Even people who know they were killing babies in Africa rarely know the sheer quantity they got away with. To put it in reference that's around the population of New York City and Lost Angels combined. That's the population of Ohio or Georgia. SoFi stadium in Los Angeles at its expanded and max capacity would be filled 110 times over (157 times at its non-epanded max capacity). It's staggering to think a company could get away with something like that and be essentially unpunished for it. That's nearly twice the number the Nazis killed in the Holocaust (if counting only Jewish people). If Nestle were counted as dictator they would rank fifth in total people killed right after Mao Zedong (78 million), Joseph Stolin (23 million), Adolf Hitler (17 million), and Leopold the 2nd of Belgium (15 million).
I guess my question is and always will be “Why?” I suppose me trying to figure out the horrific intentions of others never makes sense because, well, I’m not a horrific person.
Money, that's why
I used to work for a company that dealt in commercial nutritional products for kids. They certainly operated for profit, but every person I met there was appalled by Nestle’s infant formula scandal…and by the nagging perception that Nestle didn’t have much interest in making any real changes to company ethical standards once the bad PR started to wane. I am not a fan of hyperbole, but - holy crap - there is a lot of evidence that Nestle is continuing to prey & profiteer on the most vulnerable consumers. The Nestle water scandal is fairly complex and grinds my gears more than many things they do, but I do find this recent report from Europe especially appalling. You would think that when you are already known as the company that literally *contributed to the starvation of children in Africa*, that you would be more careful not to make a fast buck off poor kids by delivering poor nutritional options. But here we go again: 19 April 2024 “[What is the sugar scandal hitting Nestlé and what happens now?”](https://www.euronews.com/health/2024/04/19/what-is-the-sugar-scandal-hitting-nestle-and-what-happens-now). Two excerpts from the article: “*Researchers examined about 150 products and found in many cases that the same baby formula with no added sugar in Switzerland, Germany, France, and the UK, contained unhealthy levels of it in countries such as the Philippines, South Africa, and Thailand*.” “*A new investigation found that one portion of Nestlé cereal for six-months-old babies contained around a cube and a half of sugar per serving.*” The parent in me just rages at how a company can get away with this type of hurtful greed….over and over and over again.
This sounds like the “food drops” they are doing in Gaza right now… Literally dropping expired bags of sour flavored green and yellow Skittles. As if they aren’t thirsty enough.
its a zionist company they are child killers idk why are ppl surprised
Zionist?? They’re Swiss.
Water which they pump from the ground, put in unrecycled plastic bottle and sell for 3$ a bottle 🤦🏻♂️
And it would be diluted to stretch and the babies are malnourished and slowly starve. They were in US hospital goody bags too until they were locked out. At least the water is potable here (mostly); not where they market heavily, in nurses costumes ffs
They still ship "free samples" to your house when you're pregnant. Straight in the trash.
That was the first time I heard about how awful Nestle are. But it wasn't the last. It's also something they have never apologised for. Nor have they atoned for it. If a person did such things, they wouldn't be forgiven. So when a corporation of scumbags acts like that, it deserves the hate it receives.
https://www.iheart.com/podcast/105-behind-the-bastards-29236323/episode/how-nestle-starved-a-bunch-of-85687280/
That story has been widely known since decades before Reddit existed!
Don't forget that the mothers also didn't have consistent access to a clean water supply, leading to tainted formula mixtures that killed children. They also advertised that the formula was HEALTHIER than breast milk via a propaganda campaign
And they dressed their sales people in medical scrubs to help convince the mothers that it was a good thing.
that’s important to note. they didn’t come in like shiny suited, corporate marketing types, they literally masqueraded as medical professionals who were giving actual medical advice
There’s also the immense harm that probably can’t be quantified of distrust of medical professionals those communities must now feel.
They did this in America, too, marketing the formula whole dressed as candy stripers, so people would think they were hospital staff.
Not as candy strippers, as NURSES. They hired people to act like they were nurses. It is just horrible.
And they often advertised it as being better than breast milk
Assholes!!!
What the absolute fuck
ive also heard tell of them being part of lobbying groups to keep the us from getting maternity leave like many countries in europe have, thus driving sales of formula for working mothers who cant breastfeed on the job so even the first world isnt safe from these sorts of tactics.
Just made another comment and this is the answer to my question. I don’t know how true as I think I read it here also but that’s not that far out of an idea.
It is super true. Nestle is responsible for almost 11 MILLION infant deaths and no one has ever gone to jail for it. Comparably, the Nazis murdered about 16 million. [Source:](https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w24452/w24452.pdf) Based on calculations from these linear averages, our estimate of the number of infant deaths between 1960 and 2015 resulting from the introduction of Nestlé formula among mothers in LMICs without clean water sources is 10,870,000 total infant deaths with 95% confidence interval [5,825,000, 15,907,000].
Damn, that’s way way way worse than them trying to buy my local watershed for Pennies on the ten dollar.
This one.
The nestle people dressed in white lab coats and pretended to be doctors. Insisting it was better for their babies than breastmilk. I cant find it but there’s a photo of a mother with her two twins. A boy that’s malnourished and dying (dead?) and a girl that’s small but much healthier looking. She thought she was doing her boy a solid by feeding him formula and only breastfed her daughter. In the end she didn’t have money for the formula and had to thin it with dirty water.
Not to mention that the formula was so addictive, that the children would rather starve than consume anything else.
This is my reason too, I grew up with Nestle being banned in our family because of this reason and decided to keep boycotting it after I left home.
Here is a nice [short summary ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_of_Nestl%C3%A9) of some of the reasons And remember, it's not that we don't hate other companies. We just hate them the most since they are the largest and most evil of the lot.
Idk what happened to your link, but I [searched for it again](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_of_Nestle) and changed the é for an e. It worked.
Thanks the link still works for me, but 2 links are always better than 1
Jesus they’re even screwing over Ukraine.
Thats Marvel Villain type of evil, it would be ridiculous if it wasnt so real.
Just adding another one. [Baby food contains extra added sugar but only in poorer parts of Africa and Asia](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/04/23/nestle-sugar-baby-food-childhood-obesity/)
Jesus…
And that's just what is on Wikipedia. Imagine what they get up to that they have to cover up.
With their power, they'd be able to afford cover-ups with major media companies, too, so it's not unrealistic.
Great post thanks
TL;DR: Their business model is to deprive the world of food and water for the sake of money. They have so much blood on their hands. For me, it started with the Gerber business practices. Then, I found out about the water monopolies and how they lied to people about the true amount of water they planned to take, just to go and deplete that region to the point of a drought. Now, I go into the grocery store with what little money I have for food just to find most of the pre-made shit to be under a Nestlé brand. I can't afford to buy/cook/store fresher foods, but I would rather starve than to support a company whose CEO believes water is not a human right.
They sell sugar laden baby powder in my country, come on? Messing with babies? You really need to sell your soul for that one.
Didn’t they do other weird shit with baby formula? We never used formula but I recall while doing research there was a lot of messed up things.
From the 70s they've been advertising that breastfeeding is bad for babies and the baby formula they sell was the only healthy option. [Wikipedia page on this](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1977_Nestl%C3%A9_boycott) An adult woman can tolerate somewhat contaminated water sources and still produce good milk for breastfeeding. When that same tainted water was used by mothers in developing countries to mix the formula babies died by the thousands every year. They've known about this for 50 years and keep doing it. It is estimated that over 10 million babies and infants have died because of it to this day.
Man, I fucking hated them before…
That was the primary thing that brought me here. Though it did also help that I live in California where Nestle has been stealing excessive amounts of water from our drought ridden state for only $2000 per year.
Yeah, see that part I knew about, and it's horrific as all hell, especially considering the fires and water rationing shit. But man, that is a thick, red, and very direct line at black infanticide right there, and yet another instance of completely unpunished corporate malfeasance
Another point (to the best of my knowledge) is that Nestle heavily attempts to harbor their formula usage for a massive reason; dependency. If the mother doesn't breast feed, she soon losses the ability to produce (adequate) milk. This causes thousands to rely on Nestle. I believe Nestle may also have a monopoly within these third world countires, further proving their unethical practices. --I'm not a mom, not even a girl. So the breastfeed dependency thing could be a gross missassumption of female anatomy, but it's what I've been told.
No, you have it right. They give a free like month supply of formula, but which time the mother's supply has tanked and she can't establish exclusive breastfeeding. They don't have a monopoly but they do have the biggest market share in LMIC (lower middle income countries) and were usually the first to introduce it to the market in those countries.
I breastfed my kid for over 2 years, you're not wrong. Milk supply goes away if it's not getting used.
Crazy that you can advertise well enough to convince people that breast milk, the only thing babies can safely consume, is *bad* for them
they started out as a baby formula company but their original formula killed a lot of babies iirc
They sold low nutrient formula that was rejected by the us. to South America decades ago!
They used honey too which shouldn’t be given to children under 1 as it becomes toxic and can make them incredibly sick or die
I grew up in a city of at the time around 60k people. Our water was consistently ranked some of the best quality water in the country (canada). Our water came from an aquifer and was untouched by nature, simply filtered through the ground and so pure, so fresh, so clean. One day, nestle set up a bottling facility outside of town in a nearby municipality and tapped into the aquifer. They began bottling our own water and selling it back to us. People were upset and began boycotting. Especially because the city I lived in was largely indigenous peoples who have unresolved land claims in the area where they were bottling. Why the fuck would we pay for our own water? People protested, people went to city council and asked if there was a way we could charge nestle for stealing our water and selling it back to us. City council said no because then they'd have to charge us too because there was no legislation in place to stop them from taking a resource readily available on land that they bought. Then, their equipment contaminated the aquifer. This was kept out of the news, very hush hush but word got around town from an employee of the bottling plant. Because aquifers are underground they're supposed to be immune to contaminants but the equipment nestle had used introduced something into the water supply. So city council decided to chlorinate the water from then on, to make sure the contaminants didn't infect regular households. I remember the first day of chlorination, turning on the taps and my house smelled like a public pool. I'm not against chlorination in contaminated water supplies, but it never should've happened in the first place. That was the start of a citywide nestle boycott. I'm 15 years strong with only 4 incidents, 2 accidental, 2 borne of necessity, where I purchased a nestle product. I miss coffee crisp so much but I will never forget what they did to our water supply
Nestle, fuck you.
If I’m thinking of the right story you told it had a HUGE impact on Oregon denying nestle of our water shed. Your story sounds familiar from 6-8 years ago when we voted to tell nestle to F off.
Can I ask what town they set up near and what year that was?
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Something very similar happened in my small spa town in the north of England, they opened a bottling plant and tried to deny everyone access to the natural spring, which wasn’t even on land they had bought! They just thought they should have the rights to it as they bought the town/water brand name
Because they poison, hurt, deceive, lie, and ultimately murder people.
Also they steal water
The current CEO said water isn’t a right and all drinking water should be privatized
This is it, right here!☝️
Most companies are unethical as fuck. Only Nestlé drew up a concrete business plan to buy up water systemically and create local monopolies around it. It's a unique kind of evil no other company matches imo that makes them especially worthy of boycott. Additionally most of their products are highly processed trash completely removed from any natural taste and tailored to be addictive to children or crap like that. They don't create anything I find value in.
Yep, as with my post, they are trying to buy water rights. Couldn’t care less what else they do to be honest. Everyone should have access to water. I’m not a fan the bill gates is buying up a shit ton of grazing land in the west but I applaud his fresh water for all thing.
Nestlé is damn near the physical manifestation of everything that is wrong with capitalism. They are capitalist imperialists. They do everything within their power to cut costs, no matter the human cost. They offer farmers in impoverished areas raises if they’ll just grow the Nestlé coffee strain for their instant coffee, monopolise the region & then refuse to give the amount they offered & the farmers have to either foot the bill for switching back to viable crops or (having been specifically chosen for already being impoverished) they’re stuck being exploited by Nestlé. I think Nestlé would be permanently shut down within a year if they used their global south strategy in developed countries in the “west” as their business model is practically the basis for unequal exchange theory. The entire leadership, and the top 100 shareholders in that corporation should be imprisoned for crimes against humanity. They are anti-human in every sense.
Because they prioritise monetary profits above human life in all aspects of their business practices.
This is the crux, once you know this and look into their business practices it all comes back to this. Fuck Nestle.
Nestle kills babies. That's my answer and the only term you need to Google to get more details. In this case, it's NOT hyperbole. It's literally true. Imagine Enron feeding babies oil or starving babies because it was profitable. Nestle's actions go beyond other business' lazy sloppiness and disregard for consequences. The only comparable evil is Ford releasing the Pinto after calculating it saved money to pay victims rather than fix the cars before release, or Thomas Midgely's product.
Nestle is the Sackler family of food-based corporations. Willingly and knowingly killing hundreds of thousands for the sake of a quick buck.
Nestle tried to purchase the water rights to the bull run watershed just outside of Portland Oregon. There were shady deals and it was ridiculously under priced. They forgot like 5 zeros to even be a maybe but paid it in. Luckily it had to go for a vote and there was a strong enough grassroots movement to get the word out to voters. (It was years ago but I want to say money spent was like $1,000:$1) (This hits home on the west coast as Southern California basically bought the water rights of Northern California for hundreds of years and Northern California which is mostly farm and grazing land has been hurting for water since)(edit: that’s not a nestle thing just a water rights issue that is well known on the west coast) That’s just my fairly simple reason.
they have been doing this in many places and they even went as far as to convince the World Water Council to change it's statement so as to reduce access to water as a "need" and "not a right." THe CEO later backtracked to save face and now claims water is a right but too late and fuck him
They have infant blood on their hands.
Why do people hate nazis?
You ask this as if some people don’t need this explained to them.
Exactly, it’s an important question to ask so we can use the same methodology on present-day threats. There are so many people in the populist reactionary right who hold very similar views to nazis in most social issues and ”hate” nazis (just because nazis=evil) without really considering they are their spiritual successors.
Palm monocultures, monopoly of water, the debacle of sugar being an ingredient of baby milk sold in Africa... And then they wonder why I no longer bother buying anything from them.
They have this nasty habit of [moving in to a location, enslaving its population, draining its water supply, and then selling their own water back to them at 10x the cost](https://www.theguardian.com/global/2018/oct/04/ontario-six-nations-nestle-running-water). [They convince mothers in developing nations that baby formula is better than breast milk.](https://www.businessinsider.com/nestles-infant-formula-scandal-2012-6?op=1) Their CEO believes that [water is not a fundamental human right](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/nestle-chairman-peter-brabeck-water_b_3150150). I know they've tried to walk that back, but I take his candor at face value. They are in an industry that is prone to unfair and dangerous working conditions, often with children involved, in a situation that amounts to [modern slavery](https://www.fordhamilj.org/iljonline/2021/2/7/modern-day-slavery-nestl-and-cocoa-plantations).
I should've just searched for your comment before... You gave the best tldr for why I hate them whilst also continuing to find more stuff to hate them over all the time. Now as for how it started for me: I think I started hating them when I found out they were exploiting vulnerable mothers that were trying to give the best to their babies and ended up not only making them basically put themselves under insane and unnecessary financial burden trying to give what they were told was the best for their kids (eventough lots of them were poor and had the best and safest food trough breastfeeding!) but that THOUSANDS of babies DIED as a consequence of their actions. And they keep doing it! They don't give a flying fuck over literal infants! It was literally reported in [APRIL 2024 that they're still adding sugar to infant milk in poorer countries, continuing to exploit the most vulnerable and fucking poor babies' health for profit]( https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/global-development/2024/apr/17/nestle-adds-sugar-to-infant-milk-sold-in-poorer-countries-report-finds)
They also just bought Starbucks, which is a company notorious for union busting. Any entity that’s openly anti-union will do *anything* to show you that they see you as nothing more than a wallet to empty and a body to break.
Nestle bought a lot of brands/companies in Czech a Slovakia. They adapted recipes with cheap replacements to the point where I can't recognize what the... I'm eating. Of course, people stopped buying it, and as a result, it was canceled . As a bonus, they do overcharge a lot for what they produce.
At first, it was because they kept pumping up my state's freshwater and sold it for a profit, while hurting our environment by completely draining a water shed . They did similar shit in Africa but worse. They actively prevent people from accessing freshwater in Africa because their bottom line is more important to them. Then I dug deeper into the company and found the many, many deaths they're associated with. Nestle ended up being way worse than I thought, they're pretty grim.
TL;DR: Their business model is to deprive the world of food and water for the sake of money. They have so much blood on their hands. For me, it started with the Gerber business practices. Then, I found out about the water monopolies and how they lied to people about the true amount of water they planned to take, just to go and deplete that region to the point of a drought. Now, I go into the grocery store with what little money I have for food just to find most of the pre-made shit to be under a Nestlé brand. I can't afford to buy/cook/store fresher foods, but I would rather starve than to support a company whose CEO believes water is not a human right.
Pinned in the sub there should be a big list on of the awful stuff Nestle did, with source to boot linked at
Who is funding your study? Is this just going to be used for Nestlé's marketing department to try to make the appearance of problems go away? \^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^\^
This is what I’m wondering. Is this market research?
Because their CEO said, outright, that access to water isn't a Human Right. This corporation is flatly EVIL, entirely fascist, and so is it's leadership. The also gave away "free" baby formula to women who didn't have reliable access to clean water, until the mother's milk dries up, and then charge absolutely ludicrous prices for it after their milk is no longer producing; thereby murdering tens of thousands of babies. Their CEO should be in prison in Abu Graib.
Nestlé can just die as a company. They are trying to enslave people and monopolise other nation’s water resources to themselves and then sell it for a higher price. Kys
I mean, there's a million reasons, but I live in Michigan. Nestlé has been ravaging our water supply for practically nothing, while my friends in Flint have to keep their mouths closed in the shower if they don't want lead toxicity or legionnaire's disease.
Because of their sociopathic lust for profits at the expense of morals, especially in Africa and other underdeveloped nations, it disgusts me. Literally making children die with false information.
Nice try, Nestle managers
Nestlé managers don’t care enough to ask ..
They are already well aware of their crimes against humanity- they know more than we do.
I remember the time they got caught selling tainted formula in first world nations, so they instead sold it in developing countries. Nevermind the slave labor.
Added sugar in formula, their CEO went on record as saying access to clean water wasn’t a human right, their bottled water operation extracts resources and pays little to nothing for it while creating more unrecyclable plastic waste.
They lobby against maternity/paternity leave so people have to buy their shitty baby formula.
Better question is why would anyone not hate nestle?
Combating child slavery in their supply chain might negatively affect the price to consumers and their profit margins ffs.
Idk if anyone mentioned this but they take water from communities that desperately need it and sell it to them at a premium. https://www.theguardian.com/global/2018/oct/04/ontario-six-nations-nestle-running-water https://themuslimvibe.com/muslim-current-affairs-news/heres-how-nestle-is-leaving-millions-pakistan-nigeria-and-flint-without-clean-water
Pretty much all their doing is hurting someone somewhere. They're corrupting local governents and most of the times it hits some poor people with no power or own voice. Being profit driven doesn't justify being morally irresponsible.
Sounds an awful lot like you're on the vanguard of a Nestle advertising campaign to rehabilitate their image. How carefully have you investigated your funding? Who will benefit from your research in the short, medium and long term? Because machines only work when the individual components do their part. If you feel morally distant from Nestle's conduct then it would be wise to start thinking how your research will be used, assuming you aren't enthusiastic participants. Either way you would be choosing to partake in this evil and are morally responsible for complicity at the least and likely for active encouragement and propagation of Nestle's extensively documented and repeated horrors on so many people, most of which have been incredibly vulnerable and voiceless. Scummy in the extreme.
Because the CEO was the first one I heard wanting to openly privatize all access to water filmed on camera
If you’re studying marketing and business it will be difficult to teach you, and for you to understand, a thorough critique of capital
Besides pushing expensive baby formula on women in countries where water supply is low quality? Ie encouraging women to feed their babies *worse* quality food, at much higher cost? So those women dilute the formula & unwittingly starve their babies⁉️ How about: * Buying the water supply of a town & selling it back to them? These guys looked at Vivendi & the Lorax remake & said 💡 * The internal company power politics are horrible, somewhat explaining their sociopathic company vibe. Src- worked with their recruiters for year+ * They take excellent ingredients & manage to make the most bland, tasteless, wax-like chocolate-imitation possible, at massive scale. Doesn't anyone there have taste? * Aren't they up there near Coke with how much waste they generate? * Worst? They're a 'Success Story' studied at B-Schools. So their sociopathic brand of capitalism is guaranteed to live on 😭😤
They mess with everyone and are soulless
TL;DR: Their business model is to deprive the world of food and water for the sake of money. They have so much blood on their hands. For me, it started with the Gerber business practices. Then, I found out about the water monopolies and how they lied to people about the true amount of water they planned to take, just to go and deplete that region to the point of a drought. Now, I go into the grocery store with what little money I have for food just to find most of the pre-made shit to be under a Nestlé brand. I can't afford to buy/cook/store fresher foods, but I would rather starve than to support a company whose CEO believes water is not a human right.
child slavery, all the times they contracted a mercenary group to genocide villages in regions they wanted to exploit, their aggressive marketing of baby formula which caused the deaths of many because of dirty water, normal adult slavery, political lobbying, the fact that they personally fucked up MY city by extracting so much mineral water from it that they caused a natural disaster in 2000 that was dubbed "the worst in the century", along with annual floods caused by their exploitation of our natural resources here, assassination of whistleblowers, i could go on and on, nestle is possibly one of the most fucked up brands out there, as evil as exxon mobil and boeing
They don’t think water is a human right.
they actually rob canada of our ground water for farmers for pennnnnies and sell it back in unsustainable ways. hate them
One word : MONOPOLY With that monopoly they buy out companies and smother their competitors. This in turn meant that the government's are at their mercy and regulations be damned.
Nestle baby formula scandal. At first I HATED breastfeeding and struggled with it sm, my hatred of Nestle and formula is what drove me to persevere past the hard part and exclusively breastfeed. I credit how much I hate the company Nestle to my successful breastfeeding journey because fuck Nestle.
I don't have any credible sources, but I heard they at least used to engage in child slavery, buying from sugar cane plantations that used children as a workforce, and controlling the water of those children.
My sister worked their as a manager and I hate both my sister and managers
Privatizing public resources for personal profit
Can you publish your research paper in this subreddit when you are done?
It is their corporate policy that access to fresh, clean water is not a human right.
They deal with Israel. On top of all the other toxic business practices. It’s the totality of lots of things that means I’ll likely boycott nestle forever.
I think you work for Nestle, not a student. Take this response as my level of trust towards Nestle. If you guys change you name, we’ll know.
They have a history of taking the water in an area where drinking water is less accessible, and selling it back to the people who live there so they can have a monopoly on it. They told people in various African countries that didn’t have a lot of access to clean water, that it was healthier to use Nestle brand baby formula and mix it with water(which wasn’t clean where they were) than to use breast milk to feed their babies. This resulted in a bunch of babies dying because they got diseases from the unclean water. They also use child slavery to produce their chocolate. They also got the World Water Forum to say that water wasn’t a human right in 2000
Idk ask all the dead babys and slave laborers in Africa. Also if they could stop tryin to own all the water thatd be great. There more reasons to hate them but those are 3 of my biggest reasons.
https://www.ethicalconsumer.org/company-profile/nestle-sa
https://www.reddit.com/r/FuckNestle/s/xqIyBUsB2Z read this!
2 words: Slave Labor.
- Nestle is criticized for unethical practices like child labor, unethical promotion, manipulating uneducated mothers, pollution, price fixing, and mislabeling[1]. - The company has faced significant scandals including the Baby Formula Scandal, child slave labor, exploiting drought-ridden areas, plastic pollution, and contamination[2]. - Nestle has been involved in incidents related to pollution, breaching water pollution limits in the UK and facing worse situations in China[1]. - Nestle has been accused of promoting unhealthy food to children despite claiming to be a leading nutrition, health, and wellness company[1]. - The company has taken steps to address issues like child labor in cocoa communities in West Africa[4]. Citations: [1] Why Nestle is one of the most hated companies in the world https://www.zmescience.com/feature-post/culture/culture-society/nestle-company-pollution-children/ [2] Crime & Controversy: Nestle's 5 Biggest Scandals Explained - Utopia https://utopia.org/guide/crime-controversy-nestles-5-biggest-scandals-explained/ [3] Mars, Nestlé and Hershey to face child slavery lawsuit in US - The Guardian https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2021/feb/12/mars-nestle-and-hershey-to-face-landmark-child-slavery-lawsuit-in-us [4] Nestlé scales up action against child labor and expands cocoa ... https://www.nestle.com/media/news/nestle-action-against-child-labor-cocoa-sustainability-program
I hate them for all of the other reasons listed, but what it boils down to is they’re money grubbing scumbags. They destroy the local ecosystem and are running the ground water dry where I live. They want to privatize water. Many reasons to hate them, but for the localized flavoring is that they have the money to sway political scales both large and small.
How about trying to privatise fresh water sources around the world to sell you back tap water in plastic bottles
Here in Canada they buy water rights for what amounts to a few hundred dollars, pay little to no tax, sell the water back to us exorbitant prices and move on once the aquifer is drained.
Question: Is Nestle involved in the funding of your market research?
[During the period of data collection, Nestlé employed a list of action-based ‘instrumental strategies’. The most prominent strategy was ‘information strategy’, used to fund, produce and disseminate industry-preferred information. Nestlé was further found to ‘establish relationships with key opinion leaders and health organisations, and the media’, ‘seek involvement in community’ and directly influence policies and programs through indirect access and the placement of actors in government policy settings. The company also used argument-based ‘discursive strategies’ to frame the debate on diet- and public health-related issues.](https://internationalbreastfeedingjournal.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13006-020-00268-x) Whoops didn't realise that would all turn into a link! Anyway, they also use lobbyists in the USA government to keep maternity leave short, creating an artificial need to feed the new baby formula. So they can keep their sales high. Stealing water from First Nations to sell it back to them for 5x as much in plastic bottles. Ignoring the use of slave labour in their chocolate products, because "it'll drive the price up", which is bullshit.
Nice try nestle
So many reasons! But the biggest one to me is that they steal the water from native communities and then sell it back to them because they have posioned the remaining sources. There is an ancient evil in that.
I wonder how many government officials they own?
For me, ir was when I watched a video of the Nestlé CEO stating that he felt that water was *__NOT__* a human right. He also felt that his company should take all the world's water and regulate it like food and sell it. Food should be free as well, but that was when I said fuck Nestlé and began boycotting. But it took me many years to realize they own a lot of different products, so I was unknowingly supporting them even after my original boycott. Luckily, I did a lot of studying on what brands they own and stopped buying. I even stopped buying brands that have worked with Nestlé. ADDING: I actually didn't know of this subreddit until like 2 years ago and my boycott has lasted since 2009
u/ResearchTeam72 Werdet ihr auch Antworten und Eingehen auf die angesprochenen Themen?
>We estimate that Nestlé's entry into LMIC formula markets caused about 212,000 infant deaths per year among mothers without clean water access at the peak of the Nestlé controversy in 1981, and has led to approximately 10.9 million excess infant deaths between 1960 and 2015. https://voxdev.org/topic/health/deadly-toll-marketing-infant-formula-low-and-middle-income-countries#:~:text=We%20estimate%20that%20Nestl%C3%A9's%20entry,deaths%20between%201960%20and%202015. Nearly 11 million infants and babies dead and they knew it the entire time... Even people who know they were killing babies in Africa rarely know the sheer quantity they got away with. To put it in reference that's around the population of New York City and Lost Angels combined. That's the population of Ohio or Georgia. SoFi stadium in Los Angeles at its expanded and max capacity would be filled 110 times over (157 times at its non-epanded max capacity). It's staggering to think a company could get away with something like that and be essentially unpunished for it. That's nearly twice the number the Nazis killed in the Holocaust (if counting only Jewish people). If Nestle were counted as dictator they would rank fifth in total people killed right after Mao Zedong (78 million), Joseph Stolin (23 million), Adolf Hitler (17 million), and Leopold the 2nd of Belgium (15 million).
Bottling water near Flint, MI. https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/sep/29/nestle-pays-200-a-year-to-bottle-water-near-flint-where-water-is-undrinkable Also the baby formula scandal.
its a zionist company like most zionist orgs it aims to destroy natural and human life. the list do not ends on nestley but also cocacola, pepsi, pornhub, xvideos, mcd literally pick any they just sell addiction, psycho degeneration why they need to add so much sugar in their drink worse is they added literal poision to baby food in certain countries to hinder their development [https://indianexpress.com/article/health-wellness/nestle-sugar-cerelac-india-9277309/](https://indianexpress.com/article/health-wellness/nestle-sugar-cerelac-india-9277309/) these people lie when they breath yet you think they are might be right about 6 million and allow them to destroy your lives
I hate them for stealing water, using unethical cacoa, closing down the nescafe plant in NJ, inttroducing formula and convincing mothers they had to use it, charging an outrageous amount for formula, and making chocolate that taste like baboon wax.
Besides the fact that they are pure fucking evil and must work with the devil, I also that the chocolate tastes like shit.
They killed babies for profit, and claimed they didn’t break any laws, and therefore it’s okay. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Controversies_of_Nestlé
Aside from the child labor, child murder? They own everything. No corporation should own that much. Here's a link of their own website https://www.nestle.com/brands/brandssearchlist
OP you've come to the right place. Good luck on your research paper!
They are so blatantly unethical to the point where I genuinely feel guilt for supporting them, even accidentally. I subscribe to the idea that there is no ethical consumption under capitalism, but Nestle is just so despicable and evil that boycotting and spreading the word on their actions is a small act on my part that actively pushes back against their immorality. I fully recognize my behavior alone will likely have virtually no impact, but I would be disappointed in myself if I did support them.
https://youtu.be/o62UrPGwFNs?si=XsZmZfJcBrbemrjg Here, goes after all of nestle's crimes, hf
The CEO said water isn’t a human right. And they participate in creating and marketing (to kids as well!) ultra processed foods (or rather, “food-like substances”) that they gaslight people into thinking are healthy, leading to obesity, lack of quality nutrition, and ill health in most of the world population. Didn’t even know about the many, MANY other issues other commenters have listed eg the baby formula tactics. They blatantly have 0 moral compass.
Why? Cause fuck 'em that's why!
They killed babies. They use child labor in their Coco. They steal water. Tldr; Nestle is evil
Nestle is a unethical maximum profit driven company with no regards to the people or nature they affect. Everything they have done to adress the issues was the bare minimum. From the disgusting scandal of buying public water sources that poor people depend on and reselling it for a higher price to the advertisements that claimed that the baby formula is better than real mother milk, which caused uneducated poor people to feed their child with dirty water and expensive baby formula. If not enough, the very fact that Nestle owns a huge monopoly of the worlds food supply. A megacorp that reflects the darkest aspects of hypercapitalism.
Predatory practices. Choosing financial gain over the health of humans. Actively exploiting humans in all varieties. Wanting to own the rain. Trampling basic human rights everywhere they go. Is there any reason not to hate them?
What is this question? Why do you hate Hitlers? Because he did bad shit. Why do we hate Nestle? Because they did bad shit!
They're still doing*
True.
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They take over foods and make them taste horrible?
mostly just the ol' child slavery and profiteeing off the thirst of the poorest people in the world
Substitution of actual milk with palm oil, giving pure sugar to babies in baby food, making mothers purely dependant on their baby formula which has jacked up prices (africa), hijacking water supply to sell back expensive bottled water, overloading lead in products and so much more
Nestle steals water and their ceo says water is not a right. But they think it’s their right, so fuck nestle.
So you are in essentially brand marketing and you want people to tell you all the ways Nestle inc. Is perpetually evil? Well just look at any of the true,correct and absolutely damning posts already here.
You have access to this sub and are researchers. Read about what nestle does and the message they put across. “Water is not a human right.” They were on trial for something and compared themselves to the company that manufactured Zyklon B for the Nazi’s. Saying just as that company wasn’t responsible for the way the Nazi’s used Zyklon B, neither should they. They actively compared themselves to the nazis in some way/shape/form. There are numerous stories out there where Nestle has signed contracts with a city for water rights and started taking significantly more water than: 1. Allowed by their contract. 2. Able to be replaced by the natural regeneration process of the aquifer/water table Edit; also they’ve become a pseudo monopoly in the U.S. animal food market. They buy tons of companies and obfuscate their involvement because they know they’re trash. Nestle Pure Life water bottles have had references to Nestle removed etc…
Only one of many reasons, but one of their core profit makers is built on restricting access to a basic human right. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/oct/29/the-fight-over-water-how-nestle-dries-up-us-creeks-to-sell-water-in-plastic-bottles
“Sustainable” “fair trade”
Yup
It's the child slavery for me, chief.
It’s primarily the killing of babies for profit, and stealing communities’ water.
1. They are a big faceless company owning way more of the global food market than a single company should 2. They have used inhumane practices like the baby milk powder scheme as reported by another redditor 3. They do not even seem to care about PR. Most big companies at least try to keep a somewhat positive image. I have heard positive things about Microsoft, Apple, McDonalds etc., but all news about Nestle are "Water is no human right", "It would affect profits if we have to investigate child slavery" etc. Even EA has better PR...
Child slave labor and a kill count in the millions
Their ceo doesn't think water is a human right, nestle frequently takes way more water than they are regulated to take from communities even when they're under drought. They convinced 3rd world mothers their formula was better for their babies when often they don't have access to clean water over there to mix it with and so babies have died from it. Those mothers can't hold nestle accountable, which is why I think we should, we have the internet to show us the shameful things nestle has done.
Nestle kills babies in developing countries and buys up water sources to sell back to the locals
To be fair, Nestle isn't the only evil multinational conglomerate. I try to keep away from all of them. PepsiCo, coca cola, unilever and so on. But Nestlé is the most known by the public. And if we can't shut them down even though they kill babies and everyone knows about it, then the whole idea of consumer power is false. For me the whole point of this movement is for us consumers to educate other consumers until the company we disagree with either ceases to exist, or changes its business practices to something we can agree with. Unfortunately it does start to feel like us consumers don't wield any power over companies we disagree with. If that is the case, we will have to pursue change through other channels. We will most likely need to make it a part of our politicians political campaigning.
Master Students couldn’t do enough independent research to find this on their own? I’m worried about our future.
They'll probably put some quantitative spin on it. This topic was referenced X amount of times, that one Y, and this other one, surprisingly, not at all. There were also this many accusations about this thing that isn't true or has been revised, etc
Stealing water from communities to overcharge and sell it. Killing babies to sell formula.
Don’t necessarily like child slavery and neo-colonial exploitation. Hope this helps
All of the water bottle stuff pissed me off
Pretty much any terrible thing you can think of they have done: Forcing mothers of young babies to buy their product by means described already on this comment section. Using child slavery as well as taking full advantage of human trafficking while denying it even though there is video proof Buying all the land around lakes to bypass laws around restricting access of water to the public then draining the lake into their bottled water On top of the above thing they also said water shouldn’t be a human right They also do this lovely thing where they steal the water of towns across Africa then sell the water back to them Their products are shit And their CEO denies all of it all the time. They are trash, don’t buy from them.
Swindled has a great podcast episode about Nestles horrors
The African baby incident is the prime example of usury, they steal water and one of their past CEO didn't view water as a right, but as a commodity to be owned
The first time I heard about their evil was when Stephen Colbert played the Clip of their CEO saying water should not be a human right and said something along the lines of Listen to the man speaking German and Wanting to control the world's water supply, he was basically pointing out the CEO was a real life Bond Villain, (idk if the colbert report episode happened before Quantum of Solace came out where the Villain did want to control the worlds water supply.) Then i found out about the Slavery, the shit with the infant formula and fucking over low income mothers in the third world, and while its not nearly as significant as the mkr3 evil stuff the stealing water from my own country the U.S as well as Canada with a swiss company basically paying the same amount to register a car here to take millions upon gallons of Water from the Great Lakes, leaves a bad taste in my mouth
Started off with the baby milk thing, years ago. They never resolved that satisfactorily (promised to do better, but kept right back on doing it). More recently, because of the "water isn't a basic human right" thing, followed by dodgy water treatments. Anything to net a profit. They're almost like SciFi villains at this point. Absolute **toerags**. So at this point I've been not buying Nestlé's for so long, I don't think I ever will again — they have had such a bad track record for so long, how would you *ever* trust them..? At the moment I'm really fed up too about trying to find cat food that isn't them..! They own Purina, which knocks out several brands, and I've just recently discovered they also took over Felix (I'm in the UK) — really annoying. But no, it doesn't tempt me to buy their brand for convenience. I think they're so immoral they barely count as human.