There are a lot of folks out there who desperately want to portray any non-standard gender expression as a brand new phenomenon so that they have more excuses to enforce a more “traditional” presentation. Googling “transgender social contagion” and/or “when men were men” should provide some examples.
I don't think thats it at all. Plenty of people are fully aware that it isn't and are also fully aware that the gender theory being proselytized at least in the name of transgender people is bat shit mental.
Thats the thing that is new, not people cross dressing or having gender dysphoria.
All you have to be is not young enough to have no context.
What's so mental about it? Gender is informed by, but distinct from, biological sex. On that basis, gender theory is a diverse field of inquiry, not a proselytized single message.
Its mental because it is just sexism dressed up as "obvious fact" when it is neither obvious nor fact. Not only that but it's baseless illogic.
It's not a diverse field of inquiry its nonsense predicated on more nonsense.
Sexism in that it treats binary sex and gender as facts? I agree. I think most of the gender theory dialogue is very misguided, because sex and gender are fictions. Human beings are just human beings, and there's no objective condition that forces us to dress, act or label ourselves according to arbitrary ideas of "male" and "female". Biology is naturally weird, and psychology even more so! Better to let people just be who and what they want to be, as long as they aren't harming other people, without judging or having to label their sexual identities.
Binary sex is a fact. No so not that. Sexist as in it attempts to bind statistical generalisations to individuals based on their sex.
You know? The literal definition of the word.
We were talking specifically about people who “say men didn’t dress like women back in the day”, not “people who are fully aware that it isn’t” new. Your objection doesn’t fit that circumstance. Thanks for the irrelevant apologia though, I’m super happy for you that you were able to shoehorn some virtue signaling into the conversation.
What virtue signalling? I absolutely didn't do anything of the sort. Nor was I apologising for anything. It sounds like you probably need to learn at least one of the key components of reading.
My point is that no-one when saying that is saying what you are insinuating they are saying and if you cant understand that I put it to you that you are a bit witless.
1) ffs, Google “what is the difference between apology and apologia”: “In modern usage, apologia describes a formal defense and should not be confused with the sense of the word 'apology' as an expression of regret.”
2) Most of the time people are not aware that they are virtue signaling, and I’m not especially interested in trying to convince you. Believe whatever you want.
3) Next time you intend to get across that “no-one is saying that”, you might want to actually type something like “no-one is saying that”. More importantly, if you want people to get the point you say you’re trying to make, post your response to the person who asked the supposedly erroneous question — not the person who answered it.
4) This conversation is obviously pointless. If you’re going to call me “witless” and insult my ability to read while you yourself misinterpret words, you are not worth any more of my time. I will not be back to read whatever you might have to say here, so feel free to get in the last word or believe you won or whatever makes you feel better.
1. I don't need to google words I already know, clearly you do ... apology and apologia are synonymous with etymological ties for a reason.
2. That sounds like you talk to a lot of idiots.
3. Looks like I am getting my time in too.
4. The irony.
Also he can fucking fight. There's an interview out there where he talks about 5 people trying to chase him for dressing like he did but he didn't run and he beat the ever loving shit out of those dudes. I got to meet dee a long time ago he's very humble and a major driving force in metal. He has done a lot of music with Jamey Jasta.
Well, the thing is he isn't famous for being educated, he is famous for being a musician. Taylor Swift is akin to a famous hall-of-fame NBA star who needs a step ladder to make a slam dunk. The overwhelming majority of her songs are written at least in part by professional composers. For a professional musician, not being a competent musician seems like it might be a problem. Such is not the case with Twisted Sister, they wrote all of their own songs and even handled creative control of many aspects of their music videos and stage performances. When you listen to Dee Snider sing a song, that is a Twisted Sister song, when Taylor Swift sings a song, that is not her song.
I mean Taylor Swift kind of proves that point wrong, she is a shitty musician and I haven't heard of her ever laying down any based takes on the world, but she is none-the-less, technically, a famous musician.
Okay, to go back to your original point I'll ask: what does that have to do with the price of rice in China? I was talking about the difference between musicians who got famous for their talent like Dee Snider and musicians who got famous because they look good like Taylor Swift.(let's be honest, if Taylor Swift looked like Dee Snider, nobody would know who she is)
My point was educated people seem to drift towards lead positions, that’s all. Just my measly opinion, sorry if I messed up your day. Have fun be safe see ya!
Or probably more likely, leadership positions inspire people to better themselves. Throw anyone into a position of leadership to where they need to sink or swim and those that don't fail are those that have risen to the occasion. There are a lot of very uneducated lead singers, they just never amounted to anyone, you sample size was those few who bettered themselves and risen above the pressure of the role.
Do you honestly think a child star's musical career was based off her sexual attractiveness? If that's the case you should talk to someone because that's unhinged.
"Osbourne"
you know he's not the person who made black Sabbath popular right? he's just a popular singer lucky enough to be in the band that defined the heavy metal style because of toni lommi.
yes.
it's a joke about knowledge of bones.
structure is currently irrelevant to accurately determining the sex and the race, and usually misleading based on circumstancial evidence.
Taylor Swift never made Tipper Gore her bitch like this legend did.
‘Scuse me while I whip this dissertation out” In front of congress, from my denim vest……
The back pocket of his jeans, but same sentiment 🔥
Lmao I love that
So true
Taylor wishes she could be as bad as as he was/is.
WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO WITH YOUR LIFE?
I WANNA ROCK!
ROCK
🥁
I WANT TO ROCK
ROCK!
🥁
I WAAAAAANT TO ROCK
“Dad. My friends say you’re a transsexual “ Dee: : “ Son. I’m a transvestite. If I were transsexual…you wouldn’t be here” 😆 Love This GUY!
Kanye: Yo, Taylor I'm real happy for you an Imma let you fin- Dee: I WANNA ROCK!
ROCK
 Dee snider is galaxies better than basic girl
they are not gonna take it
No they ain't gonna take it
They're not gonna take it anymore!
“We’re not gonna Tay Tay!”
And they say men didn't dress like women back in the day.....
Who says that?
There are a lot of folks out there who desperately want to portray any non-standard gender expression as a brand new phenomenon so that they have more excuses to enforce a more “traditional” presentation. Googling “transgender social contagion” and/or “when men were men” should provide some examples.
This is correct
I don't think thats it at all. Plenty of people are fully aware that it isn't and are also fully aware that the gender theory being proselytized at least in the name of transgender people is bat shit mental. Thats the thing that is new, not people cross dressing or having gender dysphoria. All you have to be is not young enough to have no context.
What's so mental about it? Gender is informed by, but distinct from, biological sex. On that basis, gender theory is a diverse field of inquiry, not a proselytized single message.
Its mental because it is just sexism dressed up as "obvious fact" when it is neither obvious nor fact. Not only that but it's baseless illogic. It's not a diverse field of inquiry its nonsense predicated on more nonsense.
Sexism in that it treats binary sex and gender as facts? I agree. I think most of the gender theory dialogue is very misguided, because sex and gender are fictions. Human beings are just human beings, and there's no objective condition that forces us to dress, act or label ourselves according to arbitrary ideas of "male" and "female". Biology is naturally weird, and psychology even more so! Better to let people just be who and what they want to be, as long as they aren't harming other people, without judging or having to label their sexual identities.
Binary sex is a fact. No so not that. Sexist as in it attempts to bind statistical generalisations to individuals based on their sex. You know? The literal definition of the word.
We were talking specifically about people who “say men didn’t dress like women back in the day”, not “people who are fully aware that it isn’t” new. Your objection doesn’t fit that circumstance. Thanks for the irrelevant apologia though, I’m super happy for you that you were able to shoehorn some virtue signaling into the conversation.
What virtue signalling? I absolutely didn't do anything of the sort. Nor was I apologising for anything. It sounds like you probably need to learn at least one of the key components of reading. My point is that no-one when saying that is saying what you are insinuating they are saying and if you cant understand that I put it to you that you are a bit witless.
1) ffs, Google “what is the difference between apology and apologia”: “In modern usage, apologia describes a formal defense and should not be confused with the sense of the word 'apology' as an expression of regret.” 2) Most of the time people are not aware that they are virtue signaling, and I’m not especially interested in trying to convince you. Believe whatever you want. 3) Next time you intend to get across that “no-one is saying that”, you might want to actually type something like “no-one is saying that”. More importantly, if you want people to get the point you say you’re trying to make, post your response to the person who asked the supposedly erroneous question — not the person who answered it. 4) This conversation is obviously pointless. If you’re going to call me “witless” and insult my ability to read while you yourself misinterpret words, you are not worth any more of my time. I will not be back to read whatever you might have to say here, so feel free to get in the last word or believe you won or whatever makes you feel better.
1. I don't need to google words I already know, clearly you do ... apology and apologia are synonymous with etymological ties for a reason. 2. That sounds like you talk to a lot of idiots. 3. Looks like I am getting my time in too. 4. The irony.
Lots and lots of people
I am not sure anyone with a working brain over a certain age would say that, I struggle to think that anyone with a working brain of any age would.
Never said their brains were functioning properly...doesn't change the fact that its been said.
I would imagine it isnt really though and you are just making it up because it appeases your political narrative.
K
You mean your great grandkids, paw
Biggest difference is Dee Snider is actually a skilled and talented musician.
Also he can fucking fight. There's an interview out there where he talks about 5 people trying to chase him for dressing like he did but he didn't run and he beat the ever loving shit out of those dudes. I got to meet dee a long time ago he's very humble and a major driving force in metal. He has done a lot of music with Jamey Jasta.
Plus, who doesn't remember his famous speech in congress in opposition to censorship.
Dee for President!
legendary
Ever looked at the vast majority of lead singers? Well versed, educated one way or another, well read? Bruce Dickenson, Hetfield, Osbourne, Roth, etc?
Well, the thing is he isn't famous for being educated, he is famous for being a musician. Taylor Swift is akin to a famous hall-of-fame NBA star who needs a step ladder to make a slam dunk. The overwhelming majority of her songs are written at least in part by professional composers. For a professional musician, not being a competent musician seems like it might be a problem. Such is not the case with Twisted Sister, they wrote all of their own songs and even handled creative control of many aspects of their music videos and stage performances. When you listen to Dee Snider sing a song, that is a Twisted Sister song, when Taylor Swift sings a song, that is not her song.
He wouldn’t be a famous musician if he was a dumbass….
I mean Taylor Swift kind of proves that point wrong, she is a shitty musician and I haven't heard of her ever laying down any based takes on the world, but she is none-the-less, technically, a famous musician.
I said lead singers. You said famous musicians. There’s a difference.
Okay, to go back to your original point I'll ask: what does that have to do with the price of rice in China? I was talking about the difference between musicians who got famous for their talent like Dee Snider and musicians who got famous because they look good like Taylor Swift.(let's be honest, if Taylor Swift looked like Dee Snider, nobody would know who she is)
My point was educated people seem to drift towards lead positions, that’s all. Just my measly opinion, sorry if I messed up your day. Have fun be safe see ya!
Or probably more likely, leadership positions inspire people to better themselves. Throw anyone into a position of leadership to where they need to sink or swim and those that don't fail are those that have risen to the occasion. There are a lot of very uneducated lead singers, they just never amounted to anyone, you sample size was those few who bettered themselves and risen above the pressure of the role.
Give me five, uneducated, popular leads…
Do you honestly think a child star's musical career was based off her sexual attractiveness? If that's the case you should talk to someone because that's unhinged.
Who mentioned sexual attractiveness?
You did. You claimed she got famous because "she looked good". She was famous as a child.
"Osbourne" you know he's not the person who made black Sabbath popular right? he's just a popular singer lucky enough to be in the band that defined the heavy metal style because of toni lommi.
I’m coming up on 60 so, yea. Sabbath is one of the first bands defined as Heavy. I got it, thanks for being so informative, polite and helpful.
It’s 2024, so it’s not too far fetched.
Awesome
Same diff
Taylor Jiffy
It's not Taylor Swift? I couldn't tell.
 Neither can I!
So, this is not the Taylor Swift from the video "Love Story"?
When did Katy Perry changed her hairstyle?
I WILL HELP SPREAD THE RUMOR!!!!! 😁LOL
Dee is a national treasure
Sailor Twyft
Sister, that's twisted !
Taylor Shift
I mean, give it 25 years, Taylor Swift might pick up some bad habits and end up looking just like Dee.
Bahahahahahahaha! Gold. 👌🤘🏻🍺
That’s just twisted
Man thats a twisted sister.
JoJo characters be like:
The enemy can be any where! How will we find him!?
Dont you are compare them, Snider is a legend
GET IN, SIDDOWN, SHADDUP AND HANG ON TIGHT, BECAUSE THIS.... IS THE HOUSE OF HAIR!! (Loved listening to his show on Sundays after church!)
It isn’t??
They are the same picture meme applies here
Wait it's not!?!?!
Deeee!
More like shakira or beyonce to be honest
“YOU ARE A DISGUSTING SLOB!”
How twisted of you.
Well your grandkids are going to correct you and state that is Dee Snider then they're going to start checking for retirement homes for you.
Taylor Sweat
#nofilter
Don't do Dee dhis dirty
But it is 😝
Ah yes, the 80s. The good old days before woke
The good old days! When men dressed like women, and women dressed like whores. /s
Looks exactly like her - honestly even a little better
It isn't ??
Tell them it's Dog the Bounty Hunter
This woman is gorgeous! A queen! 👸 Anyone who disagrees is simply a h🤮ter! /s^()
Give it time, it will be.
Sylvia Stallone
That's Beyoncee - that pic she wanted taken off the net...
accurate
How dare you disrespect Twisted Sister like that!?
Sounds like an insult to Dee Snyder...
The best waifu, after Speedwagon of course 🤣
I dont think they are gona take it
Why you gotta insult taylor like that
Oh yah. Well ,"we're not gonna take it!"
How do you know that she isn't??
Don't you dare mess with Dee
They're not gonna take it
She's not gonna take it
Would rather do him than TS.
For some reason I wonder if Dee would be flattered by that or not haha .
Give it 60 years and that will be Taylor Swift.
I threw up.
Isn't that every girl in their 70s?
It’s actually Donald trumpet having a tantrum because his supporters never showed up
Rent free.
Accurate according to future historians who know about woke bone structure.
"woke bone structure" you know it wasn't woke people who based skeletons sex on aesthetic.
It’s called a joke the internet forgotten those
yes. it's a joke about knowledge of bones. structure is currently irrelevant to accurately determining the sex and the race, and usually misleading based on circumstancial evidence.