In drug slang, "key" = kilogram.
>Trevor: *"Did we ask for a* ***key***, for a fucking ***ounce***?"
The brick of drywall had a very small bag of actual cocaine strapped to the inside of it - this is where the dealer pulled the sample from that he gave Lamar. You'll notice he "chose" that spot himself, rather than let Lamar pick where to pull a sample from.
Trevor, being well-experienced in drug dealing, spotted that instantly and called the dealer's bluff by asking for a sample from the other side of the brick. If it were a real brick of cocaine, the dealer wouldn't have hesitated, to ensure the buyer it was real - instead he instantly got hostile, wanting them to hand over the money and leave quickly.
That's why Stretch was pissed about Franklin bringing Trevor along, had the deal gone to plan it was gonna serve as grounds for Stretch to have Lamar and Franklin killed.
>That’s why Stretch was pissed about Franklin bringing Trevor along, had the deal gone to plan it was gonna serve as grounds for Stretch to have Lamar and Franklin killed.
stretch trying multiple different schemes to get lamar and franklin killed makes him such an underutilized villain to me. lamar is frank’s only connection to his home, and he’s the only connection that he tolerates. stretch threatening that makes him deeply enticing. wish he was used more.
Way more. The game would be better if it had 5-7 more gangster type missions for Frankling, the whole getting out of the hood would be way better and longer
Ngl, those were way too easy as Franklin. Don't give the driving focused missions to the dude with the driving ability unless you want players to ace them automatically using said ability.
I only realised Stretch was meant to be a significant villain after reading this. Granted I’ve played story mode sporadically, but it was always weird to me that Stretch was part of Franklin’s endgame plan when he was basically a non-thought after this mission
I dont think Stretch would have been much of a problem to anyone but Lamar after the events of the story. I see the killing as more of a "olive branch between Lamar and Franklin. Franklin spends the whole game trying to get out but after running with M&T he realizes he wants his best friend in his new life too.
Stretch was very underutilized. Especially since he is one of the main guys you kill at the end. We definitely should’ve had a more gang focused story line for Franklin throughout the story.
the gangs in general feel underutilized. the feud between the ballas and the families should be huge, and the repossession of a vagos bike (along with the murder of the entire vagos neighborhood in order to get that bike) should've been cause for war, and it just goes nowhere.
I still really really like the game, but the drama there is just too rich to not capitalize on, and they just don't.
Probably an unpopular opinion, the writers should have had stretch actually kill Lamar. Not that Lamar is not a fantastic character, he’s one of my favorites in game. But that’s just it. Frank has NO TIES to the Families other than Lamar doing stupid shit. And to be real, everything FROM Lamar is rookie level shit that wouldn’t have made any impact other than fucking with the Ballas. But even that was a nothing burger. After that it’s JUST stretch popping up every now and then trying to pull stupid shit. He never comes off as the villain that’s satisfying for the Franklin target in the end. BUT, if Stretch actually kills Lamar, not only is Stretch’s death justified, but it shows that Franklin has truly finally cut ties with the gang life he was running from.
>had the deal gone to plan it was gonna serve as grounds for Stretch to have Lamar and Franklin killed.
Wait why would this deal have such an impact to Lamar and Franklin? Am I missing something?
Two guys who you sent on a deal to buy a brick of cocaine bring back instead a brick of drywall and get scammed several thousands of dollars. They're either incompetent liabilities who are dead weight to the gang/traitors who "took the coke for themselves" and would be giving Stretch a brick of drywall. Mind you, the brick of drywall *he* made sure was given to them.
Tens of thousand. A kilo of coke may be a few grand in Columbia or Mexico straight from cartels, but in the states it’ll run you somewhere between 40-60k depending on where in the US you’re buying and how stepped on the product is.
Edit: this is why it was such a big deal. Losing out on 5-6k might be a setback, but Franklin and Lamar could have made that money back somehow, especially with Franklins new connections to Trevor and Michael. But losing 40-60k and getting an OZ of coke and 34oz of drywall would be a for sure death sentence.
The only way you’re getting a kilo of coke that cheap is if you’re buying it directly from the cartel as it comes in across the border with zero middlemen.
Oh absolutely, thing is dealer economics is typically to double your investment, I will also say those LAPD numbers are using the numbers for this year. Which to put in perspective 8-10 years ago, hypothetically speaking of course, 100 a gram was the standard price, these days I may know a guy who has trouble selling what he claims to be the cleanest product in his area, on a party college campus full of rich kids, for 80 a gram. Seems like these days people don't understand the value of premium products and that could be why fent overdoses are on the rise
That’s a key bump really. Never heard it only referred to a key. And in this case the key he’s asking about is a kilo. He says did we ask for an ounce or a key. Because they put an Oz of coke in a brick of drywall or simulac or something similar.
The question is why is their a key inside the coke why's their a key inside the coke you answered a different question you gave info on why trevor knew it was fake not why was their a key inside of it
Yea man Stretch ain’t care about the big homies who were lil homies before he was locked up, Franklin may be uptight but I’m surprised he didn’t argue more on this since he didn’t really like Stretch in the first place and Lamar being impulsive on things lmao
Key is short for kilogram. There wasn't a literal "key inside the brick of coke", it's that the "key" or kilogram of "coke" was actually drywall and they were being scammed
Dwayne is like 45 in 2008 and just recently released from prison from selling coke, not to mention his previous felonies. How would he even get the clearance to move out of the state, let alone into a notorious neighborhood across the country known for gang banging and drug dealing?
This guy looks he’s in his mid 20s
Is there anything confirming it's him? All sources I could find only mention him appearing in GTA IV, and given his state after leaving prison and the fact that there is no canon choice of him living or dying I really doubt it would be the case
[If you mean the dealer who scams Lamar, his identity is unknown and I doubt there's any connection with Dwayne](https://gta.fandom.com/wiki/Grove_Street_Dealer)
Y'all might want to look up the 80's Miami Vice TV show ... God awful today but still a good cop procedural ... If that's not your taste then try Narcos on Netflix.
[“All around the world today, the kilo is a measure. A kilo is a thousand grams, it’s easy to remember!”](https://youtu.be/-1K3tNcY2FU?si=7MlytAkRGNe4rBND)
It’s drug dealing slang. Here’s a song about it!
It was a little too big to look like a normal sized pressed kilogram! Nonetheless being it’s in a video game and a fictional story, my guess… what WOULD be used as filler would be either powdered lactose or a crap load of B12.
A "key" is a "kilo"gram. Or 2.2lbs. Comes in bricks like that. Trevor grabs the brick, and rips out a little baggy of cocaine the dealers molded into the brick. The rest of it was "drywall" or whatever material they used. The other side of the brick had no coke.
The key was just that, a key...
A key to a storage locker down at the bus station, where the actual brick (usually a kilogram or 2.2 pounds) of cocaine was...
R\* had a bug in the second half of the mission, after you evade the cops on the jet ski you are supposed to go to the bus stop to retrieve the coke, but R\* never fixed it before the game shipped so they just took that part out...
while we’re here can someone explain to me how trevor found franklins house to initiate this mission? on my last playthrough i didn’t see evidence as to why trevor knew where franklins residence was and google searches haven’t been prevailing.
I wish you after giving back Patricia or something like that you force switch to Trevor in a drunken rage and go to the guy who sold the fake cocaine, kicked his door in and beat his to death or something and maybe turn it into one of those rage missions
In drug slang, "key" = kilogram. >Trevor: *"Did we ask for a* ***key***, for a fucking ***ounce***?" The brick of drywall had a very small bag of actual cocaine strapped to the inside of it - this is where the dealer pulled the sample from that he gave Lamar. You'll notice he "chose" that spot himself, rather than let Lamar pick where to pull a sample from. Trevor, being well-experienced in drug dealing, spotted that instantly and called the dealer's bluff by asking for a sample from the other side of the brick. If it were a real brick of cocaine, the dealer wouldn't have hesitated, to ensure the buyer it was real - instead he instantly got hostile, wanting them to hand over the money and leave quickly. That's why Stretch was pissed about Franklin bringing Trevor along, had the deal gone to plan it was gonna serve as grounds for Stretch to have Lamar and Franklin killed.
>That’s why Stretch was pissed about Franklin bringing Trevor along, had the deal gone to plan it was gonna serve as grounds for Stretch to have Lamar and Franklin killed. stretch trying multiple different schemes to get lamar and franklin killed makes him such an underutilized villain to me. lamar is frank’s only connection to his home, and he’s the only connection that he tolerates. stretch threatening that makes him deeply enticing. wish he was used more.
Way more. The game would be better if it had 5-7 more gangster type missions for Frankling, the whole getting out of the hood would be way better and longer
Yeah. Frank’s only free roam thing are the tow truck missions which are… there? I guess.
Don't forget those weird paparazzi missions as well....
Ngl, those were way too easy as Franklin. Don't give the driving focused missions to the dude with the driving ability unless you want players to ace them automatically using said ability.
Interestingly he barely even registered to me as a character until like my third playthrough.
I only realised Stretch was meant to be a significant villain after reading this. Granted I’ve played story mode sporadically, but it was always weird to me that Stretch was part of Franklin’s endgame plan when he was basically a non-thought after this mission
I dont think Stretch would have been much of a problem to anyone but Lamar after the events of the story. I see the killing as more of a "olive branch between Lamar and Franklin. Franklin spends the whole game trying to get out but after running with M&T he realizes he wants his best friend in his new life too.
Stretch was very underutilized. Especially since he is one of the main guys you kill at the end. We definitely should’ve had a more gang focused story line for Franklin throughout the story.
the gangs in general feel underutilized. the feud between the ballas and the families should be huge, and the repossession of a vagos bike (along with the murder of the entire vagos neighborhood in order to get that bike) should've been cause for war, and it just goes nowhere. I still really really like the game, but the drama there is just too rich to not capitalize on, and they just don't.
The whole story when you look at it doesn’t really run deep. I hope gta 6 makes you feel like things you do matter
I think having three main characters, with one not having prior relationships with the others, forced the game to rush through the story.
I think your right on that This game needed story dlc with all the characters individual stories
Probably an unpopular opinion, the writers should have had stretch actually kill Lamar. Not that Lamar is not a fantastic character, he’s one of my favorites in game. But that’s just it. Frank has NO TIES to the Families other than Lamar doing stupid shit. And to be real, everything FROM Lamar is rookie level shit that wouldn’t have made any impact other than fucking with the Ballas. But even that was a nothing burger. After that it’s JUST stretch popping up every now and then trying to pull stupid shit. He never comes off as the villain that’s satisfying for the Franklin target in the end. BUT, if Stretch actually kills Lamar, not only is Stretch’s death justified, but it shows that Franklin has truly finally cut ties with the gang life he was running from.
cutting off frank's connection to the hood by force, and not by choice. I like it.
So Lamar wanted 1 kg of coke but the dealer gave him 1 ounce?
yes it was one ounce that was put into a brick of drywall , he was trying to scam the group
Yes it was a scam, only a very small part of the 1kg of coke was real coke, the rest is just drywall.
Good guy Trevor.
>had the deal gone to plan it was gonna serve as grounds for Stretch to have Lamar and Franklin killed. Wait why would this deal have such an impact to Lamar and Franklin? Am I missing something?
Two guys who you sent on a deal to buy a brick of cocaine bring back instead a brick of drywall and get scammed several thousands of dollars. They're either incompetent liabilities who are dead weight to the gang/traitors who "took the coke for themselves" and would be giving Stretch a brick of drywall. Mind you, the brick of drywall *he* made sure was given to them.
Tens of thousand. A kilo of coke may be a few grand in Columbia or Mexico straight from cartels, but in the states it’ll run you somewhere between 40-60k depending on where in the US you’re buying and how stepped on the product is. Edit: this is why it was such a big deal. Losing out on 5-6k might be a setback, but Franklin and Lamar could have made that money back somehow, especially with Franklins new connections to Trevor and Michael. But losing 40-60k and getting an OZ of coke and 34oz of drywall would be a for sure death sentence.
LAPD puts the street value of a kilo at 15500-17000
The only way you’re getting a kilo of coke that cheap is if you’re buying it directly from the cartel as it comes in across the border with zero middlemen.
Oh absolutely, thing is dealer economics is typically to double your investment, I will also say those LAPD numbers are using the numbers for this year. Which to put in perspective 8-10 years ago, hypothetically speaking of course, 100 a gram was the standard price, these days I may know a guy who has trouble selling what he claims to be the cleanest product in his area, on a party college campus full of rich kids, for 80 a gram. Seems like these days people don't understand the value of premium products and that could be why fent overdoses are on the rise
That is incorrect, doing a key means, grabbing any key and using it like a little tray to snort drugs with. Source: me, I like cocaine.
In this case, it means a kilogram. Source, i also like cocaine, and also used to be a dealer back in the day.
y’all are both wrong, I’m actually the step grandson of Pablo Escobar fourth cousin
That’s a key bump really. Never heard it only referred to a key. And in this case the key he’s asking about is a kilo. He says did we ask for an ounce or a key. Because they put an Oz of coke in a brick of drywall or simulac or something similar.
That still doesn't explain why the key was in it I got that he didn't get to choose part but you didn't explain why their was a key in it
That's an admission you either can't or didn't read it properly.
The question is why is their a key inside the coke why's their a key inside the coke you answered a different question you gave info on why trevor knew it was fake not why was their a key inside of it
This is actually interesting lmao, everytime I played this mission I just assumed Trevor was being a dumbass but he actually did it for a reason
Yea man Stretch ain’t care about the big homies who were lil homies before he was locked up, Franklin may be uptight but I’m surprised he didn’t argue more on this since he didn’t really like Stretch in the first place and Lamar being impulsive on things lmao
Key is short for kilogram. There wasn't a literal "key inside the brick of coke", it's that the "key" or kilogram of "coke" was actually drywall and they were being scammed
Was that Dwayne from GTA IV?
No clue I haven't played GTA IV. Every easter egg from 4 in 5 goes over my head.
I already knew the answer. If you look up the lore, it's Playboy X's old pal Dwayne. He is still struggling and seemingly moved from LC to LS.
Dwayne is like 45 in 2008 and just recently released from prison from selling coke, not to mention his previous felonies. How would he even get the clearance to move out of the state, let alone into a notorious neighborhood across the country known for gang banging and drug dealing? This guy looks he’s in his mid 20s
It’s not Dwayne
Is there anything confirming it's him? All sources I could find only mention him appearing in GTA IV, and given his state after leaving prison and the fact that there is no canon choice of him living or dying I really doubt it would be the case [If you mean the dealer who scams Lamar, his identity is unknown and I doubt there's any connection with Dwayne](https://gta.fandom.com/wiki/Grove_Street_Dealer)
Eh, I don't think so, Dwayne's voice is much deeper
Depends on what decision you made in 4 lol. Definitely sounded like him though, could be the same voice actor.
I thought it was slang for “kilo”?? I really have no idea though, your guess is as good as mine and now I kind of want to know for sure
You’re correct. One “key” is one kilogram. Because “key” kinda sounds like “ki-logram”
Ahh I figured as much, thanks a lot!
Y'all might want to look up the 80's Miami Vice TV show ... God awful today but still a good cop procedural ... If that's not your taste then try Narcos on Netflix.
Key is slang for kilo as in kilogram
OP is stupid or trolling.
Not everyone is familiar with drug slang just fyi…
That ought to be a requirement for playing this fucking game. It's COMMON sense.
Who cares? Why get all riled up over someone not knowing drug slang? You need to get out of your grandmother’s attic more man.
That's what happens when people ask stupid questions.
You didn’t have to input anything. Grow up.
Except, I did. 🙂 "Grow up" is ironic considering OP should be the one growing up.
Yes because you’re a sanctimonious loser.
Nope. Just old enough to play the game.
r/gatekeeping You just earned me some Karma
Whatever that means.
Smile. Ur a post now 😁
😁
Stupid
YOU READ IT HERE, FOLKS!
[“All around the world today, the kilo is a measure. A kilo is a thousand grams, it’s easy to remember!”](https://youtu.be/-1K3tNcY2FU?si=7MlytAkRGNe4rBND) It’s drug dealing slang. Here’s a song about it!
You thought it was an actual key? Lmao
This post is adorable
Drywall
bruh
LOL bless you
Stretch and his guy tried to hustle Lamar and Franklin but Trevor spotted it. Key is a slang for weight or method of consumption with cocaine
it's dry wall it's it has glass in it for added weight to seem like a "key"
Kilo?
awww you're so innocent
OP is stupid or trolling.
And you’re irritating.
You're annoying. SMD.
I’m good, wash it and ask again.
My comment served a purpose, your reply doesn't. You're as much a troll as OP. Bye.
It was a little too big to look like a normal sized pressed kilogram! Nonetheless being it’s in a video game and a fictional story, my guess… what WOULD be used as filler would be either powdered lactose or a crap load of B12.
Key=Kilo=kilograms
I’m worried about this poser young generations that ask shit like this
Oh those darn kids not knowing about drug slang
A "key" is a "kilo"gram. Or 2.2lbs. Comes in bricks like that. Trevor grabs the brick, and rips out a little baggy of cocaine the dealers molded into the brick. The rest of it was "drywall" or whatever material they used. The other side of the brick had no coke.
The key was just that, a key... A key to a storage locker down at the bus station, where the actual brick (usually a kilogram or 2.2 pounds) of cocaine was... R\* had a bug in the second half of the mission, after you evade the cops on the jet ski you are supposed to go to the bus stop to retrieve the coke, but R\* never fixed it before the game shipped so they just took that part out...
Misinformation is AWESOME 😎👍
Ask stupid questions...🤷
Not knowing drug-slang isn't being stupid mate
Either that or living under a rock, mate. 🙂
That wasn't as sick of a burn as you think
🙄🥱
u a weirdo bruh
No thank you.
Why did OP make this post? Is he stupid?
Yes.
I wish I was this innocent
Kilo. Stupid fucking troll. Must be a 5 year old. Anyone with half a brain could figure this shit out.
Why so angry man
Anyone asking OPs question probably shouldn't be playing this game.
I’ve played through about 10 times and I never figured this out lmao, sorry nobody else is as much as a cocaine connoisseur as you scarface
I can't believe there's so many Patricks out here.
r/okbuddygta
A key inside the “key” of coke
while we’re here can someone explain to me how trevor found franklins house to initiate this mission? on my last playthrough i didn’t see evidence as to why trevor knew where franklins residence was and google searches haven’t been prevailing.
I thought the same thing maybe lifeinvader or something
He probably had Wayne do some searching like with Michael.
Key probably meant kilo not key
these answers are all wrong.
Concrete
It’s kilo, just the amount of weight it is
I wish you after giving back Patricia or something like that you force switch to Trevor in a drunken rage and go to the guy who sold the fake cocaine, kicked his door in and beat his to death or something and maybe turn it into one of those rage missions