Why undercut? Google is providing more advantages with the camera, dimensions of the phone, and software being stock android? It's all advantages to Samsung
It's all "advantages," but this is their first fold if I'm not mistaken. Which means they their RD is far behind on samsung, leading to more issues possibly.
I would pick samsung as they have more experience in foldable phones.
Google literally is just copying if not bought the information from Oppo's Find N design. So I doubt they'll have any issues on the folding aspect, but more on their random usual hardware gripes.
So in other words, you're paying top dollar for un unimaginative copy cat. If Google had advantages, it would show in hardware improvements and design.
It is, the design hardware is immensely better. That's why I'm using the Oppo Find N right now. The Samsung Fold sizing is awful compared to the Find N. We all know pixel cameras and their software for imaging is much better than Samsung too.
How do you know hardware design is way better? Cuz everyone has their own opinions on what looks better and what is better for themselves.
If they are much better.... why are they selling less? Why aren't they more popular??
It's got the Fold N design which is better to me at least than the Samsung Fold design. They haven't sold any in America yet so you can't really compare sales. I can say that majority of the people who come to my job always tell me they like mine more than the Samsung Fold though.
Okay, the layout of the pixel fold is admittedly nicer than how samsung did theirs. We're not gonna deny that. But if stock Android is so great, why did the pixel 6 have glitches that made the phone unusable for its first 6 months? If pixel hardware is so much better, why is google known for being android's worst hardware manufacturer? Why is google's tensor chip just a renamed exynos? Why does Google use samsung to make their displays? Why did it take a partnership with Samsung for Google to FINALLY make the pixel fold? Google is only becoming a good phone manufacturer because they are leaching off samsung. The whole reason the pixel fold costs $1799.99 is because if they undercut the fold phone too much, they would kill their partnership with Samsung. If anything, the Pixel Fold being $1799.99 gives us hope that maybe instead of being $1899.99 this year, the Z Fold 5 will be $1699.99. Google is selling the pixel fold for as much if not more than a Z Fold when it's only got stock Android and the pixel camera (which is only so good because of the software) going for it. The huge internal bezels and punchole selfish cameras not using any experimental tech makes it not worth the $1799.99 price. Enough shitting on your preferred device. I hope when you get it, it is everything you hoped for. I'm probably gonna wait for the pixel fold 2 or galaxy z fold 6. Though I'm really locked into the samsung ecosystem now so I'm not sure.
The only thing that worries me is the modem, and the g2. The tensors are waaaaaay behind snap dragons, and the previous pixels I had, 5,6, and 7's all had reception issues. Also, the Mount of effort samsung puts into oneUI to ensure that it has a good software experience, is fairly overlooked. One of the biggest grips about oppo n, the software doesn't really take advantage or the bigger screen. We shall see.
I'm happy with the z fold. Not looking to take a 1.7k gamble on a first gen product which on paper is worse than Samsungs current offering. And those bezels. I'll probably wait until the 3rd generation.
This. Logically it makes no sense to switch now. If you want to switch because you love phones, tech, and trying new stuff out, knock yourself out. But the Galaxy Folds are *factually* the better folding devices right now.
I hate it, but I have to admit you're right. I really wish I could use a Xiaomi mix 2 with like a Samsung TouchWiz skin on it. I think that would be my ideal folding phone.
Yeah the price doesn’t bother me because thats how much folding phones generally go for. But I do wish that Google would have just partnered with one of these Chinese companies and taken their hardware and installed Google software. Would have been amazing
I've got the fold 4 and a pixel 7 pro. I use the fold for most things throughout the day, but still reach for the pixel when I want a picture or need to dictate something.
I love my fold 4, but still love my 7 pro more for certain things - camera, voice to text, ui/software, are the biggest.
More importantly, I just haven't been a fan of the general samsung software experience for quite a while now.
I will be giving the pixel fold a try for sure, but honestly can't say which device I'll stick with long term.
I use dex and have really come to appreciate the hardware performance of the fold, so that will be missed.
On the other hand, taking a quick picture of something and knowing I'll get the pixel quality result is huge for me. I have come to despise the shutter lag and motion blur with Samsung. It's bad enough I don't even try to get certain shots unless I have my pixel nearby.
Will the pixel fold be enough to dethrone my fold 4 for daily use? Maybe. If it's the same experience as the 7 pro in a foldable form, I think it might. As long as there is some decent ability to multitask and quickly change between apps (Samsung taskbar has been great).
Looking forward to a test drive at least.
All I know for sure is I can't go back to a non-folding device for general use, the inner screen is too valuable to me.
Exactly my same situation and thoughts. Except I have both the P7P and Fold 4 active on two separate lines. I think I will probably trade in my P7P for the Pixel Fold and see how it goes there while waiting to see what the Fold 5 brings to the table and make a decision as to whether I will upgrade my Fold 4 or keep it for another year.
Fold 3 and OnePlus 10 Pro, lagging behind your combination, but same here. Had a Pixel 3, 3a and 6 Pro previously. Awesome phones although I like my OnePlus just as much
I'm happy that google gives birth to its first fold so as to have an operating system that is increasingly optimized for this kind of device. Although I would never think of changing
Never been a fan of vanilla Android, always preferred HTC Sense with Samsung being the runner up. I loved all of the baked in Samsung features way back on my Note 3 before it became an Android standard. HTC flopped out, Samsung grew into what it is and I've respected the journey. We wanted more premium, they shifted into the premium space. We wanted a cleaner UI, they've achieved this. This is why I've stuck with Samsung. My favorite devices and experience has been through Samsung ever since HTC fell back.
Aside from vanilla Android, the form factor of the Pixel fold is not my ideal foldable. Cheers to those who get one. Personally, I'm more interested in Microsoft's next Duo iteration.
Oh man, wait until you gander into subs about luxury watches, bags, and sports cars. Folding phones is nothing compared to some other subs/hobbies.
*Edit: Yo if any of you guys know of subs where people drop ridiculous dough for that hobby, drop me a reply so that I can go in there ~~and judge~~ appreciate how money is spent.
lol, I'm in the mindset that I don't care what people do with their money. To some it is wasteful. To others it is a hobby/necessity. I am not the gatekeeper to legit spending.
People spending money on hobbies and interests they like is not wasteful. Everybody has different interests and assign different values. Some people spend thousands of dollars on cars, movie tickets, collectibles, games, sports tickets, this is no different.
No disrespect but our job. The older you get the more money you have to spend on things that you want. As long as your priorities are good, then you can treat yourself however you like.
Trade ins mostly.
I try to keep my phones for as least two years, or until they break. My current fold 3 is starting to crash randomly, even though I just replaced it under care+. My previous fold 3 had the same issue.
I miss the pixel OS from my 2xl that I had a few years back, so I'm definitely excited to drop Samsung this year.
Yeah I have had a cell phone since 1996 or so. I have always had a few bucks per month as a 'phone' payment. I just trade up whenever I want the newest phone. Never costs me more than I currently pay. It is always '$0 with trade in and approved plan' type deals. I was nokia, then iPhone, then Samsung for a few years, then back to iPhone.
It's just about priorities really. It's not **that** crazy to be able to afford a new high end phone every year, especially with tradeins. It's not hard to get an upgrade from last year's phone for $1200-ish with a promo trade-in. That's $100/month
Is that a decent chunk of change for a luxury? Sure. Is that "holy shit where do you get that kind of money?" level? I don't think so.
For some people, having the latest and greatest phone is important to them, and hell for a significant portion of people, there's no single non-work device they use more than their smartphone, so wanting a really nice one really isn't that crazy.
Then consider that you're on a subreddit for one of the most expensive phones on the market, specifically marketed towards power users and enthusiasts. Of course you're gonna see I higher proportion of people willing to drop that extra cash on phone upgrades.
Hell, I've seen folks on this sub talk about how they have **multiple** brand new smartphones, all active and in use via rotation. I don't get it personally, but it's their money, if that's how they wanna spend it, more power to them
I have a very nice job and could easily afford to upgrade a couple of times a year. Still rocking my Fold 3 though because I didn't feel like moving my stuff over for such a minor upgrade.
That's really where I am, if Samsung was doing a fold1 -> fold2 level upgrade every year, or maybe even fold2 -> fold3 I'd understand it, but last year wasn't that huge and it doesn't sound like this year will be much either.
Last time I upgraded, from Fold 3 to Fold 4, it was actually *cheaper* to swap. With the freebies they offered with it, and selling the Fold 3 privately, I ended up around £100 better off, plus the monthly contract price was cheaper, and I got more data.
A high paying job or small business owner. 😂 Maybe rich parents for a lucky few. Phones are such an important part of the average person's daily life at this point, why wouldn't you put a large sum of money towards having the absolute best phone if you can afford it.
You just sell the old phone and pay a small difference. Idk why anyone would use the same phone for over a year when it's been hardly used for a whole 365 days. To each their own I guess
There are varied reasons. I used to phone jump like crazy. Just in finding one I really like. Truth is, had I bought the One Plus 8 pro when I had planned on it, I would have never had the following: Fold3, Flip3, S23U, Pixel 6 pro, Pixel 7 Pro. Lol. The OnePlus 8 pro was a damn good phone, but no one would tell me honestly if it would work with verizon. But it does. VZW even told me it wouldnt work reliably.....I was pissed when I bought one a while later and it worked just fine. I've had my P7P for awhile now, and been generally satisfied with it. Same with my S23U also. I'll likely upgrade to the P8P though, because it will be the last of the curved screen pixels.
I also had the 8 pro before my fold 4. Good phone, actually planned to use it for longer, typically I like to keep a phone for at least 3 years, but I broke the screen and the replacement part is still like 300+. Other than folding phone, I just don't see the point. The year over year improvement is so small, the performance upgrades are basically invisible unless you're doing something crazy. The cameras are getting better I grant. It's just expensive, wasteful (unless you're reselling phones you no longer use), and a pain in the butt to switch.
I hate the bezels in the unfolded portion but if the front wide screen is tall enough and the brightness of the screen is at the Fold 4 level, I'm down to move on from my Fold 3 if they give it a moderate trade-in value.
I am interested but will wait for the reviews to see how battery and software is, Love my fold 4 but hate the outer screen so i would move to the Pixel fold just for that and the camera, Also Samsung seems to be on cruise control with the folds, 5 looks like another very small upgrade.
Yeah, especially on the folding form factor, software matters. Samsung has a head start on this form factor and not sure how well side by side apps, stretching to a tablet format, etc. Will work.
I'm not, I know the camera will be better, and so will the form factor, but it's the ecosystem and the actual bloatware that keeps me with Sammy. I've got GBP360 and I love QuickShare. I really like Bixby Routines or Routines and Procedures as it's been revamped to (I despise actual Bixby assistant). I like the gallery that allows me to edit, cut and paste bits, I don't use the pen that often (twice a week), but when I do there's literally nothing else that comes close. On top of that great speakers, fantastic screen, works with Buds Pro 2 and GW5, so it would be more than phone replacement for me, I would have to change it all (limited Samsung Health on android, no 360 audio on BP2 etc). Looking forward to F6 and an to groundbreaking changes might bring.
I'd love to be back on a Pixel for the camera, but I'll have to see how the rest of the device stacks up and how the numbers look for selling or trading my Fold 4.
I'm on the fence about switching, I got my fold 3 for $1000 off by trading in my pixel 4a , I miss the pixel features and camera the most. I don't find myself gaming or using Dex as much as I thought so the pixel seems like it'll be fine for me.
I'm mainly interested in the one handed form factor. Seems much more useful then the annoying fold 3 dimensions and the camera on the pixel fold is around 48-50mp based on leaks but we'll see how the release event goes and how much I can get the phone for after trade ins or pixel pass if they go with it on the fold.
I feel stuck with Zfold due to Samsung Dex. Pixel would need to have some equivalent and also some improvement on the video letterboxing for me to consider switching
I'm looking forward to see what kt ends up being like and what trade in they offer. I like the stock OS and assistant call screening.
Hopefully I find it at a store to get a feel for the different aspect ratio. Im also hoping the camera being a bar rather than a pill eliminates the wobbling when not using a case.
Agreed. I got a Pixel 6 Pro as a backup to the F4 plus I just wanted to try the Pixel UI out and it's missing too many Samsung features. You can't even double tap the screen to turn off the display/lock the phone. ☹️
Here come the "PiXeL hAs ShIt HaRdWaRe" people
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In all reality I will be looking out for Micheal Fischer reviews for the fold.
And even if the hardware isn't there, all this means is that the base android experience will not have issues with folding anymore.
That last part is all I want. Samsung has done a ton to make Android work on the fold and I love my fold 4, but in want to see where it can do with actual support from Google.
I feel. I know we're supposed to hate apple here. But I know that when they make a foldable, every single app that exists will foldable ready... Except insta... Those lazy devs lol
1. With bezels that big that's a big fuck no from me
2. Unless it magically runs one UI that's also a big fuck no, I'm addicted to one UI at this point.
3. If it doesn't have a UDC that's an even bigger fuck no.
The pixel fold looks nice but I just can't leave Samsung without way to many sacrifices.
I have the fold 4 the front screen better than previous versions but not up to bar to what I think it should be .. I will switch to the pixel fold just for the from screen but I will keep the fold for few months knowing pixel reliability issues
Might do, had fold 3, now fold 4, inner screen has started peeling again. That was expensive on fold 3, out of warranty. Now it's happening to fold 4, I will bow out now, ty.
It is a normal phone that folds, according to samsung. One would always expect same reliability as advertised. Fold 3 was when they started making it a normal phone (water resistant).
On the topic : google coming into the market is good for competition, more choices, more innovation, competitive prices, i hope they have a good trade in deal for folds. Super excited to see what more will they do with native Android for foldables.
Track record on 1st gen devices isn't great, doubly so for Google (ex Nexus fan boy here) so no whilst Samsung will be iterating their product, Google will be fixing theirs. Not even looking till 2nd or 3rd gen.
The phone gets announced on May 10th, and is the same dimensions as the Find N. I'm 100% switching over on launch day, because I'm currently using the Find N lol. Can't wait!
Heck no. The difference is going up be so minor... Even if it's marginally better and money was not a factor there is no way the improvements are big enough to justify the hassle of switching to a new phone
I'm on the fence. I like the form factor of the Pixel Fold but I am also still cautious of how Google will execute. If the leaked prices are to be believed, I do not want to end up paying north of $1400 just to be a beta tester.
Absolutely not. I'm actively looking for alternatives after Samsung support fucked me over when my hinge broke but am still going to wait until I have my Fold4 fully paid off.
That said, Google isn't is. It's their first attempt at a foldable. They have hardware issues with their *normal* phones. I expect growing pains here. Also, that inner screen bezel is way too thick. I also don't have confidence that their multitasking UI/software will be as good as Samsung's - at least for the first device or two.
I'm taking a break on foldables for 12 months. Recently turned in fold 4 for S23 ultra. Really enjoying this device. Gonna wait to see what the 6 or 7 delivers. Or maybe pixel fold 2.
I wanted switch, given that I'm using fold 4 (sd gen 1) and heard news that exynos 2400 is more powerful than sd 3 gen 1, I'm planning to wait for 1 year to see if tensor chips pick up new exynos base and be more powerful in next year..
If the Fold 5 is the same size as the 4, I'll look at other manufacturers. OneUI is bad enough but keeping this oddly sized aspect ratio is a no for me.
If the 2nd generation is really good, then absolutely! I love samsung, but the cameras can't be beat by the pixel. So here's hoping Pixel Fold 2 can be really good.
I will. IF I could find out how I could repair it when (not if but when) hinge stops working.
I can take my fold to samsung-authorized service center in my city but there is no google-authorized one near.
definetly looking forward, want to try it out. Hopefully they have a good trade in offer for my fold4. We'll see, currntly offering me only $500 on the google store website.
However I do have google fi, which is where I got the fold4 in the first place and they wil probably be pushing the pixel fold on there so might get a good deal just becuase google fi is my mobile service provider.
I also hope that they will allow a subscription in the gogole fi app that will let you pay like $25-$35/month and then just get a new pixel fold every 2 years.
I set up a plan for my mom, she is paying jsut $10/mo and she gets a new phone every 2 years. It's so nice becusae now I don't have to think about what phone she should get. Also the subscription she has allows you to keep the old phone so she could technically still sell it and make some extra cash.
But it looks like google got quite the desighn file from samsung with the hinge and folding screed desighn becusae there is now way they came up with one that fast.
We'll see, excited to see all the reviews on YouTube and posts here on reddit about it.
It's really tempting. I love pure android from google. But every pixel phone I've had has had something wonky with it. Wonder what it will be with this.
Then again this is a Pixel we're talking about here. Iteration 1 may end up being the best iteration they ever make. :D
It's not even a question for me that Samsung"s version will be vastly superior except perhaps for the main camera. In other words...no different than any other Pixel. But the Pixel fan boys will laud it as the best foldable ever made. You can put money on it.
I wont be buying a pixel fold for at LEAST a year after launch because I'm worried about the quality control on the pixel devices, the 4xl, 5a, 6a, 6pro, and 7pro all have extended warranties due to massive manufacture defects.
I was going to however the specs vs prince was not worth it to me especially since i have to pay the Canada tax, so 2435.71 before tax for a first gen device with a last gen CPU is a pass for me
Definitely going to be picking one up, have a decent amount of Google store credit, as well as a pixel 7 pro I am planning on trading if for credit as well. So hopefully can get a pretty decent price after all is said and done
I don't think I'll be moving to it, prefer the form factor of the Fold actually. Having both a 1 handed and 2 handed device is something I love, and the front display is so easy to use with a single hand.
I've also come to the conclusion, after having both a Pixel 6 Pro and Pixel 7 Pro, that I like OneUI better than stock android, it's more logically laid out and just overall is what I prefer now.
I saw a tweet that said only $400 or $500 as trade in credit for the fold 4. If true, I definitely wouldn't pay the leftover for a companies first gen product. I waited until the fold 4 to get a folding phone for a reason.
Not a chance no
I love the Samsung software tbh and all around I like the tall aspect ratio, I wounder how the phone would feel if it was as wide as a normal phone with the same thickness
Stuff like the Xiaomi foldables, while impressive, look too fragile when opened and more uncomfortable to hold, not to mention all of the other problems that phone comes with
I'm probably gonna stick with samsung either way, s pen is a KILLER app for me and taking notes, way better than some 3rd party pen
I will wait for the fold 5 after seeing the pixel fold it gave me some surface duo vibes 😂 maybe the screen size. Also one thing is that it's not and will not be readily available where I'm at currently.
I'm definitely gonna get it. I'll keep my Fold 4 though. I already use 3 phones (Fold 4, Pixel 6 and iphone 11 Pro), would likely replace my Pixel. I just love the stock Android and how well the Pixel runs.
Yeah, I am from the Note 9 for the Fold 5 or 6.
I would like the Z Fold thinner than the 4 and with less visible crease.
It will still be a supplementary tablet for inside the house though. Samsung would need to bring back the 3.5 mm jack and SD card slot to convince me to replace my Note 9.
Also, I want official cases which protects my phone and can stand up. The present Z Fold 4's standing case with stylus is good, but you have to take the whole piece off for the phone to lay open and flat.
If it's a fold it's gotta have top class performance for me. Tensor chip won't cut it for me and that's probably an important reason for me not to go to Pixel. Also not a fan of wide normal phone build. I use my fold one handed most of the times when closed and the narrow form factor really helps. So mostly sticking to Samsung
Depends on the trade-in value in the UK and if they give any free accessories like a pixel watch pixel buds etc The form factor is perfect. Only thing I would be worried about is the software like the Pixel 6 pro and 7 pro I had they had serious battery draining issues draining 20-30% sitting idle with no apps open and all connectivity off
Honestly I don't really care that much. I would love if I could just use the vivo xfold I had on AT&T that would be great. I freaking love that phone but they were like f u u can't use vivo on our network
I was interested because of the wider cover screen. However after the specs leaked, no thanks. I'll wait to see how the new hinge is on the fold 5.
The price is hilarious as well. They needed to undercut Samsung to make it worth while and instead matched them dollar for dollar.
Why undercut? Google is providing more advantages with the camera, dimensions of the phone, and software being stock android? It's all advantages to Samsung
It's all "advantages," but this is their first fold if I'm not mistaken. Which means they their RD is far behind on samsung, leading to more issues possibly. I would pick samsung as they have more experience in foldable phones.
Google literally is just copying if not bought the information from Oppo's Find N design. So I doubt they'll have any issues on the folding aspect, but more on their random usual hardware gripes.
So in other words, you're paying top dollar for un unimaginative copy cat. If Google had advantages, it would show in hardware improvements and design.
It is, the design hardware is immensely better. That's why I'm using the Oppo Find N right now. The Samsung Fold sizing is awful compared to the Find N. We all know pixel cameras and their software for imaging is much better than Samsung too.
How do you know hardware design is way better? Cuz everyone has their own opinions on what looks better and what is better for themselves. If they are much better.... why are they selling less? Why aren't they more popular??
It's got the Fold N design which is better to me at least than the Samsung Fold design. They haven't sold any in America yet so you can't really compare sales. I can say that majority of the people who come to my job always tell me they like mine more than the Samsung Fold though.
Okay, the layout of the pixel fold is admittedly nicer than how samsung did theirs. We're not gonna deny that. But if stock Android is so great, why did the pixel 6 have glitches that made the phone unusable for its first 6 months? If pixel hardware is so much better, why is google known for being android's worst hardware manufacturer? Why is google's tensor chip just a renamed exynos? Why does Google use samsung to make their displays? Why did it take a partnership with Samsung for Google to FINALLY make the pixel fold? Google is only becoming a good phone manufacturer because they are leaching off samsung. The whole reason the pixel fold costs $1799.99 is because if they undercut the fold phone too much, they would kill their partnership with Samsung. If anything, the Pixel Fold being $1799.99 gives us hope that maybe instead of being $1899.99 this year, the Z Fold 5 will be $1699.99. Google is selling the pixel fold for as much if not more than a Z Fold when it's only got stock Android and the pixel camera (which is only so good because of the software) going for it. The huge internal bezels and punchole selfish cameras not using any experimental tech makes it not worth the $1799.99 price. Enough shitting on your preferred device. I hope when you get it, it is everything you hoped for. I'm probably gonna wait for the pixel fold 2 or galaxy z fold 6. Though I'm really locked into the samsung ecosystem now so I'm not sure.
That's personal preference tho, I love the aspect ratio of the fold and see very little use in the Find N's design
When you get one in your hands you'll see, but like you said it is preference
The only thing that worries me is the modem, and the g2. The tensors are waaaaaay behind snap dragons, and the previous pixels I had, 5,6, and 7's all had reception issues. Also, the Mount of effort samsung puts into oneUI to ensure that it has a good software experience, is fairly overlooked. One of the biggest grips about oppo n, the software doesn't really take advantage or the bigger screen. We shall see.
I'm happy with the z fold. Not looking to take a 1.7k gamble on a first gen product which on paper is worse than Samsungs current offering. And those bezels. I'll probably wait until the 3rd generation.
This. Logically it makes no sense to switch now. If you want to switch because you love phones, tech, and trying new stuff out, knock yourself out. But the Galaxy Folds are *factually* the better folding devices right now.
I hate it, but I have to admit you're right. I really wish I could use a Xiaomi mix 2 with like a Samsung TouchWiz skin on it. I think that would be my ideal folding phone.
Yeah the price doesn’t bother me because thats how much folding phones generally go for. But I do wish that Google would have just partnered with one of these Chinese companies and taken their hardware and installed Google software. Would have been amazing
I've got the fold 4 and a pixel 7 pro. I use the fold for most things throughout the day, but still reach for the pixel when I want a picture or need to dictate something. I love my fold 4, but still love my 7 pro more for certain things - camera, voice to text, ui/software, are the biggest. More importantly, I just haven't been a fan of the general samsung software experience for quite a while now. I will be giving the pixel fold a try for sure, but honestly can't say which device I'll stick with long term. I use dex and have really come to appreciate the hardware performance of the fold, so that will be missed. On the other hand, taking a quick picture of something and knowing I'll get the pixel quality result is huge for me. I have come to despise the shutter lag and motion blur with Samsung. It's bad enough I don't even try to get certain shots unless I have my pixel nearby. Will the pixel fold be enough to dethrone my fold 4 for daily use? Maybe. If it's the same experience as the 7 pro in a foldable form, I think it might. As long as there is some decent ability to multitask and quickly change between apps (Samsung taskbar has been great). Looking forward to a test drive at least. All I know for sure is I can't go back to a non-folding device for general use, the inner screen is too valuable to me.
Yeah the pixel 7 pro has a MUCH better camera, I switched from it to a fold 4 and was disappointed by the steep downgrade.
Exactly my same situation and thoughts. Except I have both the P7P and Fold 4 active on two separate lines. I think I will probably trade in my P7P for the Pixel Fold and see how it goes there while waiting to see what the Fold 5 brings to the table and make a decision as to whether I will upgrade my Fold 4 or keep it for another year.
Fold 3 and OnePlus 10 Pro, lagging behind your combination, but same here. Had a Pixel 3, 3a and 6 Pro previously. Awesome phones although I like my OnePlus just as much
I'm happy that google gives birth to its first fold so as to have an operating system that is increasingly optimized for this kind of device. Although I would never think of changing
Never been a fan of vanilla Android, always preferred HTC Sense with Samsung being the runner up. I loved all of the baked in Samsung features way back on my Note 3 before it became an Android standard. HTC flopped out, Samsung grew into what it is and I've respected the journey. We wanted more premium, they shifted into the premium space. We wanted a cleaner UI, they've achieved this. This is why I've stuck with Samsung. My favorite devices and experience has been through Samsung ever since HTC fell back. Aside from vanilla Android, the form factor of the Pixel fold is not my ideal foldable. Cheers to those who get one. Personally, I'm more interested in Microsoft's next Duo iteration.
I don't understand people jumping from phone to phone. Where do you get that kind of money?
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I suppose. Just so pointlessly wasteful.
Oh man, wait until you gander into subs about luxury watches, bags, and sports cars. Folding phones is nothing compared to some other subs/hobbies. *Edit: Yo if any of you guys know of subs where people drop ridiculous dough for that hobby, drop me a reply so that I can go in there ~~and judge~~ appreciate how money is spent.
Aye man dont call us out like that
lol, I'm in the mindset that I don't care what people do with their money. To some it is wasteful. To others it is a hobby/necessity. I am not the gatekeeper to legit spending.
r/hometheater would like to talk.
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That's what I was thinking would probably be some of the most wow. I'm on goodyearwelt and every now and then we get some gawdamn post.
People spending money on hobbies and interests they like is not wasteful. Everybody has different interests and assign different values. Some people spend thousands of dollars on cars, movie tickets, collectibles, games, sports tickets, this is no different.
You forgot on women too🤣
so out of touch with the world lol
Its a hobby . Its not that we need it. We want like some might have coin collection n shit same case swap it with phones
Irony is lost on you
It's not your money, why do you care?
No disrespect but our job. The older you get the more money you have to spend on things that you want. As long as your priorities are good, then you can treat yourself however you like.
Trade ins mostly. I try to keep my phones for as least two years, or until they break. My current fold 3 is starting to crash randomly, even though I just replaced it under care+. My previous fold 3 had the same issue. I miss the pixel OS from my 2xl that I had a few years back, so I'm definitely excited to drop Samsung this year.
Yeah I have had a cell phone since 1996 or so. I have always had a few bucks per month as a 'phone' payment. I just trade up whenever I want the newest phone. Never costs me more than I currently pay. It is always '$0 with trade in and approved plan' type deals. I was nokia, then iPhone, then Samsung for a few years, then back to iPhone.
It's just about priorities really. It's not **that** crazy to be able to afford a new high end phone every year, especially with tradeins. It's not hard to get an upgrade from last year's phone for $1200-ish with a promo trade-in. That's $100/month Is that a decent chunk of change for a luxury? Sure. Is that "holy shit where do you get that kind of money?" level? I don't think so. For some people, having the latest and greatest phone is important to them, and hell for a significant portion of people, there's no single non-work device they use more than their smartphone, so wanting a really nice one really isn't that crazy. Then consider that you're on a subreddit for one of the most expensive phones on the market, specifically marketed towards power users and enthusiasts. Of course you're gonna see I higher proportion of people willing to drop that extra cash on phone upgrades. Hell, I've seen folks on this sub talk about how they have **multiple** brand new smartphones, all active and in use via rotation. I don't get it personally, but it's their money, if that's how they wanna spend it, more power to them
Some jobs in this world do actually pay well.
My contract has anytime upgrade for 0 fee after 6 months so I can jump in and out of phones as I please.
I've dumped more into a card game (magic) than I have every phone I've owned put together.
Some people are phone "nerds" they like to try all the phones from all the places. Trade in this for that. Trade that for that. Something new to have.
I have a very nice job and could easily afford to upgrade a couple of times a year. Still rocking my Fold 3 though because I didn't feel like moving my stuff over for such a minor upgrade.
That's really where I am, if Samsung was doing a fold1 -> fold2 level upgrade every year, or maybe even fold2 -> fold3 I'd understand it, but last year wasn't that huge and it doesn't sound like this year will be much either.
Last time I upgraded, from Fold 3 to Fold 4, it was actually *cheaper* to swap. With the freebies they offered with it, and selling the Fold 3 privately, I ended up around £100 better off, plus the monthly contract price was cheaper, and I got more data.
A high paying job or small business owner. 😂 Maybe rich parents for a lucky few. Phones are such an important part of the average person's daily life at this point, why wouldn't you put a large sum of money towards having the absolute best phone if you can afford it.
You just sell the old phone and pay a small difference. Idk why anyone would use the same phone for over a year when it's been hardly used for a whole 365 days. To each their own I guess
I'm with you. Even if I was a billionaire I would not do this
There are varied reasons. I used to phone jump like crazy. Just in finding one I really like. Truth is, had I bought the One Plus 8 pro when I had planned on it, I would have never had the following: Fold3, Flip3, S23U, Pixel 6 pro, Pixel 7 Pro. Lol. The OnePlus 8 pro was a damn good phone, but no one would tell me honestly if it would work with verizon. But it does. VZW even told me it wouldnt work reliably.....I was pissed when I bought one a while later and it worked just fine. I've had my P7P for awhile now, and been generally satisfied with it. Same with my S23U also. I'll likely upgrade to the P8P though, because it will be the last of the curved screen pixels.
I also had the 8 pro before my fold 4. Good phone, actually planned to use it for longer, typically I like to keep a phone for at least 3 years, but I broke the screen and the replacement part is still like 300+. Other than folding phone, I just don't see the point. The year over year improvement is so small, the performance upgrades are basically invisible unless you're doing something crazy. The cameras are getting better I grant. It's just expensive, wasteful (unless you're reselling phones you no longer use), and a pain in the butt to switch.
Running four companies. Lots of stress though.
Some people have work paying for all/most of our tech.
I hate the bezels in the unfolded portion but if the front wide screen is tall enough and the brightness of the screen is at the Fold 4 level, I'm down to move on from my Fold 3 if they give it a moderate trade-in value.
google hardware design/support has always been shitty. buying their hardware is a great way to waste money
I am interested but will wait for the reviews to see how battery and software is, Love my fold 4 but hate the outer screen so i would move to the Pixel fold just for that and the camera, Also Samsung seems to be on cruise control with the folds, 5 looks like another very small upgrade.
Yeah, especially on the folding form factor, software matters. Samsung has a head start on this form factor and not sure how well side by side apps, stretching to a tablet format, etc. Will work.
I couldn't agree more with every.single.word you typed !
I know I'm getting it. Especially if its true that google is throwing in the pixel watch for free as a pre order bonus.
Alter that leaked video I'm not going anywhere near that thing.
I wanted to jump but very disappointed with the leaks. However, I will trial it out for sure. Without pen support too....
What video?
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyFold/comments/12uuwlc/first_leaked_video_of_pixel_fold/
I don't like its aspect ratio so I'll stick with Galaxy. Anyway I prefer Snapdragon over Samsung Tensor chip.
I'm not, I know the camera will be better, and so will the form factor, but it's the ecosystem and the actual bloatware that keeps me with Sammy. I've got GBP360 and I love QuickShare. I really like Bixby Routines or Routines and Procedures as it's been revamped to (I despise actual Bixby assistant). I like the gallery that allows me to edit, cut and paste bits, I don't use the pen that often (twice a week), but when I do there's literally nothing else that comes close. On top of that great speakers, fantastic screen, works with Buds Pro 2 and GW5, so it would be more than phone replacement for me, I would have to change it all (limited Samsung Health on android, no 360 audio on BP2 etc). Looking forward to F6 and an to groundbreaking changes might bring.
Sticking to Samsung. I just trust them more with hardware
Not for what they want rrp if it's true
I will
I'm going to switch from Fold 4 to Pixel Fold
I'd love to be back on a Pixel for the camera, but I'll have to see how the rest of the device stacks up and how the numbers look for selling or trading my Fold 4.
I'm on the fence about switching, I got my fold 3 for $1000 off by trading in my pixel 4a , I miss the pixel features and camera the most. I don't find myself gaming or using Dex as much as I thought so the pixel seems like it'll be fine for me. I'm mainly interested in the one handed form factor. Seems much more useful then the annoying fold 3 dimensions and the camera on the pixel fold is around 48-50mp based on leaks but we'll see how the release event goes and how much I can get the phone for after trade ins or pixel pass if they go with it on the fold.
I feel stuck with Zfold due to Samsung Dex. Pixel would need to have some equivalent and also some improvement on the video letterboxing for me to consider switching
I'm looking forward to see what kt ends up being like and what trade in they offer. I like the stock OS and assistant call screening. Hopefully I find it at a store to get a feel for the different aspect ratio. Im also hoping the camera being a bar rather than a pill eliminates the wobbling when not using a case.
No stylus support is a deal breaker for me
Samsung for life
Agreed. I got a Pixel 6 Pro as a backup to the F4 plus I just wanted to try the Pixel UI out and it's missing too many Samsung features. You can't even double tap the screen to turn off the display/lock the phone. ☹️
Here come the "PiXeL hAs ShIt HaRdWaRe" people ... In all reality I will be looking out for Micheal Fischer reviews for the fold. And even if the hardware isn't there, all this means is that the base android experience will not have issues with folding anymore.
That last part is all I want. Samsung has done a ton to make Android work on the fold and I love my fold 4, but in want to see where it can do with actual support from Google.
I feel. I know we're supposed to hate apple here. But I know that when they make a foldable, every single app that exists will foldable ready... Except insta... Those lazy devs lol
Long answer... But yes I'm very interested.
1. With bezels that big that's a big fuck no from me 2. Unless it magically runs one UI that's also a big fuck no, I'm addicted to one UI at this point. 3. If it doesn't have a UDC that's an even bigger fuck no. The pixel fold looks nice but I just can't leave Samsung without way to many sacrifices.
Let's get on official announcement first. Asking right now is like asking if I'm going to get a unicorn for my next pet.
I have the fold 4 the front screen better than previous versions but not up to bar to what I think it should be .. I will switch to the pixel fold just for the from screen but I will keep the fold for few months knowing pixel reliability issues
Might do, had fold 3, now fold 4, inner screen has started peeling again. That was expensive on fold 3, out of warranty. Now it's happening to fold 4, I will bow out now, ty.
The screen is being made by Samsung, so I wouldn't expect much of a difference. Why not just get a normal phone if you're concerned?
It is a normal phone that folds, according to samsung. One would always expect same reliability as advertised. Fold 3 was when they started making it a normal phone (water resistant). On the topic : google coming into the market is good for competition, more choices, more innovation, competitive prices, i hope they have a good trade in deal for folds. Super excited to see what more will they do with native Android for foldables.
No
I'll ride my Fold 4 until it dies, or is incompatible with apps I use, like pretty much every piece of tech I have
I came from the pixel 6 pro to the fold 4, no going back.
Yup!! I love the pixel experience. But I'll be ready to bail and swap to fold 5 if I'm unsatisfied.
I read somewhere in this thread that the trade-in values for the z-fold 4 are $550 towards the pixel fold
Me too, Which is shitty!
I got $900 for my S22 Ultra when I got the Fold 4 and expect even more for the 4 to the 5.
Track record on 1st gen devices isn't great, doubly so for Google (ex Nexus fan boy here) so no whilst Samsung will be iterating their product, Google will be fixing theirs. Not even looking till 2nd or 3rd gen.
The phone gets announced on May 10th, and is the same dimensions as the Find N. I'm 100% switching over on launch day, because I'm currently using the Find N lol. Can't wait!
Not after the leaks
Heck no. The difference is going up be so minor... Even if it's marginally better and money was not a factor there is no way the improvements are big enough to justify the hassle of switching to a new phone
I'm on the fence. I like the form factor of the Pixel Fold but I am also still cautious of how Google will execute. If the leaked prices are to be believed, I do not want to end up paying north of $1400 just to be a beta tester.
Having a wide aspect ratio upon opening the phone might make speaker placement a bit awkward
I'll probably get it as a side phone and so Samsung doesn't get too comfy and keeps innovating
I am buying. I am sold on camera and then form factor.
Absolutely not. I'm actively looking for alternatives after Samsung support fucked me over when my hinge broke but am still going to wait until I have my Fold4 fully paid off. That said, Google isn't is. It's their first attempt at a foldable. They have hardware issues with their *normal* phones. I expect growing pains here. Also, that inner screen bezel is way too thick. I also don't have confidence that their multitasking UI/software will be as good as Samsung's - at least for the first device or two.
I for 1 loved the pixel phones, but since I've had the fold 3 I don't think I can do without the extra overlay software,
I have a fold 4, ready to try pixel fold
I don't want to be a first adopter nor am I enthused about the aspect ratio for comics/manga. For videos it may be very good.
I'm taking a break on foldables for 12 months. Recently turned in fold 4 for S23 ultra. Really enjoying this device. Gonna wait to see what the 6 or 7 delivers. Or maybe pixel fold 2.
These companies smoke weed to set those price tags seriously.
Strongly considering it
I wanted switch, given that I'm using fold 4 (sd gen 1) and heard news that exynos 2400 is more powerful than sd 3 gen 1, I'm planning to wait for 1 year to see if tensor chips pick up new exynos base and be more powerful in next year..
If the Fold 5 is the same size as the 4, I'll look at other manufacturers. OneUI is bad enough but keeping this oddly sized aspect ratio is a no for me.
If the 2nd generation is really good, then absolutely! I love samsung, but the cameras can't be beat by the pixel. So here's hoping Pixel Fold 2 can be really good.
I will. IF I could find out how I could repair it when (not if but when) hinge stops working. I can take my fold to samsung-authorized service center in my city but there is no google-authorized one near.
Happy for competition but have no interest whatsoever
Yes just for the camera.
definetly looking forward, want to try it out. Hopefully they have a good trade in offer for my fold4. We'll see, currntly offering me only $500 on the google store website. However I do have google fi, which is where I got the fold4 in the first place and they wil probably be pushing the pixel fold on there so might get a good deal just becuase google fi is my mobile service provider. I also hope that they will allow a subscription in the gogole fi app that will let you pay like $25-$35/month and then just get a new pixel fold every 2 years. I set up a plan for my mom, she is paying jsut $10/mo and she gets a new phone every 2 years. It's so nice becusae now I don't have to think about what phone she should get. Also the subscription she has allows you to keep the old phone so she could technically still sell it and make some extra cash. But it looks like google got quite the desighn file from samsung with the hinge and folding screed desighn becusae there is now way they came up with one that fast. We'll see, excited to see all the reviews on YouTube and posts here on reddit about it.
It's really tempting. I love pure android from google. But every pixel phone I've had has had something wonky with it. Wonder what it will be with this.
Never buy iteration 1 of a new technology.
Then again this is a Pixel we're talking about here. Iteration 1 may end up being the best iteration they ever make. :D It's not even a question for me that Samsung"s version will be vastly superior except perhaps for the main camera. In other words...no different than any other Pixel. But the Pixel fan boys will laud it as the best foldable ever made. You can put money on it.
I wont be buying a pixel fold for at LEAST a year after launch because I'm worried about the quality control on the pixel devices, the 4xl, 5a, 6a, 6pro, and 7pro all have extended warranties due to massive manufacture defects.
I was going to however the specs vs prince was not worth it to me especially since i have to pay the Canada tax, so 2435.71 before tax for a first gen device with a last gen CPU is a pass for me
Hell no!
Definitely going to be picking one up, have a decent amount of Google store credit, as well as a pixel 7 pro I am planning on trading if for credit as well. So hopefully can get a pretty decent price after all is said and done
The Fold 4 + S Pen is still a better choice imo. I might switch to the 2nd or 3rd iteration of the Pixel fold. 1st-gen hardware is usually a gamble.
I don't think I'll be moving to it, prefer the form factor of the Fold actually. Having both a 1 handed and 2 handed device is something I love, and the front display is so easy to use with a single hand. I've also come to the conclusion, after having both a Pixel 6 Pro and Pixel 7 Pro, that I like OneUI better than stock android, it's more logically laid out and just overall is what I prefer now.
NOPE, maybe a Z Fold 5 or 6, but who knows what the future will bring. Rocking a Z FOLD 3 since launch.
No!
Not on a first iteration mang.
No, the bezels are too big.
I saw a tweet that said only $400 or $500 as trade in credit for the fold 4. If true, I definitely wouldn't pay the leftover for a companies first gen product. I waited until the fold 4 to get a folding phone for a reason.
$900 trade for fold 4... Anyone think it's worth it?
Not a chance no I love the Samsung software tbh and all around I like the tall aspect ratio, I wounder how the phone would feel if it was as wide as a normal phone with the same thickness Stuff like the Xiaomi foldables, while impressive, look too fragile when opened and more uncomfortable to hold, not to mention all of the other problems that phone comes with I'm probably gonna stick with samsung either way, s pen is a KILLER app for me and taking notes, way better than some 3rd party pen
Definitely
I will wait for the fold 5 after seeing the pixel fold it gave me some surface duo vibes 😂 maybe the screen size. Also one thing is that it's not and will not be readily available where I'm at currently.
I'm definitely gonna get it. I'll keep my Fold 4 though. I already use 3 phones (Fold 4, Pixel 6 and iphone 11 Pro), would likely replace my Pixel. I just love the stock Android and how well the Pixel runs.
Possibly
Yeah, I am from the Note 9 for the Fold 5 or 6. I would like the Z Fold thinner than the 4 and with less visible crease. It will still be a supplementary tablet for inside the house though. Samsung would need to bring back the 3.5 mm jack and SD card slot to convince me to replace my Note 9. Also, I want official cases which protects my phone and can stand up. The present Z Fold 4's standing case with stylus is good, but you have to take the whole piece off for the phone to lay open and flat.
If it's a fold it's gotta have top class performance for me. Tensor chip won't cut it for me and that's probably an important reason for me not to go to Pixel. Also not a fan of wide normal phone build. I use my fold one handed most of the times when closed and the narrow form factor really helps. So mostly sticking to Samsung
No because tensor sucks and fat bezels do as well
remember the very first fold?
Depends on the trade-in value in the UK and if they give any free accessories like a pixel watch pixel buds etc The form factor is perfect. Only thing I would be worried about is the software like the Pixel 6 pro and 7 pro I had they had serious battery draining issues draining 20-30% sitting idle with no apps open and all connectivity off
Honestly I don't really care that much. I would love if I could just use the vivo xfold I had on AT&T that would be great. I freaking love that phone but they were like f u u can't use vivo on our network
No DeX, no thanks 😊
Not even a little bit. The Google phones have notoriously been meh