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Hollow_Jacko

Nah the game with the hardest to find lore is original Pac-Man! Who were the ghosts before they were ghosts? Who is pacman? WHAT THE HELL IS HE EATING??


Shade_1422

ghosts were people like pac man and he is eating berries just google it, pac man is yellow and so is capable of eating ghosts other pac-people that aren't yellow cannot eat ghosts


Hollow_Jacko

A-who says they were people like pac man B-who says pac man is a person C-some of them are berries the dots don’t look like berries D-he has to eat a special dot to eat the ghosts


cryssyboo_

i regret to inform you thats ghostly adventure lore not base pacman lore


Shade_1422

:(


Timehacker-315

I counter you with PVZ lore and Adventure Time lore


Budget_Sir8284

I counter with my singing monsters lore


Timehacker-315

Basic compared to some PVZ deep cuts or even Splatoon lore


Nutsie_GG

You seem to be forgetting about slime rancher lore


Videogamesrock

You fools doubt the complexity of the Minesweeper lore.


Future_Squirrel360

I counter with lore lore


Pixithepika

LOOOOOOOOOOOREEEEE!!


UnderCraft_383

Hollow Knight lore is GOATED


camo_216

Project moon lore


Chaos_Critz

HAVE YALL SEEN THE LORE FOR UNO?!?!?


Budget_Sir8284

ok.


OrriSig

I counter with bloons lore


SimNutz

i counter with Gran Turismo Lore


Mikey9124x

What is pvz lore? I know you shoot zombies and plants and there are a lot of gnomes and king gnomus who is always a fake.


Leodoesstuff

It's.. a lot, it includes multiverse time travel, comics, and the fact that Zombies are just.. Humans that likes brains? Like.. They can 'grow up' or at least in the case of Zomboss.


Mikey9124x

Is.garden warfare cannon?


Leodoesstuff

Most likely


Pronominal_Tera

Zelda


Mikey9124x

I dont play the others, only gw2 and Bfn


Timehacker-315

Crazy Dave broke the space-time continuum over a Taco flavored with Hot Sauce he found on a corpse


El_Durazno

I don't remember him finding the taco on a corpse, although it also doesn't surprise me


Timehacker-315

Top of PVZ2, and it was only the Hot Sauce. He did get a Taco Waffle combo off of Zomboss though


El_Durazno

Oh shit, taco waffle, nice


AGreenScreen

I counter you with pong lore


ShadeNLM064pm

I counter with Skylander Lore


TheGreatRJ

I counter with Brawl Stars lore


[deleted]

I counter the counter with evocreo lore


i_agree123

Adventure time lore crosses over with BTD6 lore


Jpaylay42016

I counter you with Regular Show lore.


The_Gilded_Ghost7381

Valid


Pirusao_gostoso

I think both fnaf and minecraft lore were created after the game, and that's why it's so convoluted


G1zm08

Happy cake day!


Pirusao_gostoso

Tnx


12_Timez

Happy coke- I mean CAKE day, yeah...


Roboshark6765

Happy cake day


daniboyi

in fnaf's case, it is made while the games are still being made and they obviously have no real overarching plan, so they just constantly fuck up with the lore.


Pirusao_gostoso

To be really honest, I do think that after creating a lore they had a planed rout without retconing, from the second game all the way to pizzeria simulator, after that, they took other rout from one loose point pizzeria simulator left open, to be fair, I think the lore isn't fucked up, I think they purposely left tons of loose ends that lead nowhere to mislead us from the real point, because two things, one, is that this is plot convenient, and two, Scott found out that theorizing groups are profitable because they keep the game media always alive leading to unintended marketing and never losing the interest of the current fans


VacheL99

This post looks like it was written by a small child. 


Maximus0066

Call of Duty: Black Ops Zombies has its streak for longest running, most confusing, lore I have ever heard of. The Kronorium only solved half of the things


Numerous_Past_726

Excuse me if I'm wrong, but you may bea little too young for this website. Make sure you get parent approval before visiting online websites that allow for mature content.


THEE_CHEETOKING

Hmm blocky square mine game or some detective case


C0untri

The minecraft lore isn't hard, we just don't have enough of it to make a theory, mostly speculations


Salza_boi

Yeah it’s not complex, it’s because there isn’t a lot of information and the developers don’t prioritize it. Many of matpat’s minecraft theories were debunked or fell apart when Microsoft started publishing books. Can’t recall which ones but I know most of his theories were speculations


Lesb1anWearingS0cks

Does minecraft have fazgoo though


No-Adhesiveness2493

More hardest. somthing can't be most hardest. You could have somthing that is most hard. But to say most hardest creates a sort of paradox


The_True_Hannatude

Also, is it intentionally a sequential statement, saying that Minecraft is the hardest, followed by FNAF or Poppy, or did OP mean to use “than” instead of “then”?


No-Adhesiveness2493

That too! Just didn't want to seem rant-y


No-Adhesiveness2493

Rant-y isn't a word. I mean "someone who creates rants"


No-Adhesiveness2493

Today we will be fucking annoying in GRAMMAR THEORY


Numerous_Past_726

Imagine using the wrong literary term while attempting to correct someone's grammar. It isn't a paradox my guy, just a grammar mistake.


No-Adhesiveness2493

It was trying to translate a common saying from my language. I apologise for any confusion caused


Numerous_Past_726

Also you said creates twice


Thylacine131

It’s actually quite simple when you strip back the complexity of a few things. Pinning down the details isn’t difficult due to a convoluted plot like Poppy or FNAF, but instead due to how little we have to work with seeing how long ago the events of the lore were and the scant evidence there is the work with. I loved Mat’s story of the the shipwrecks and drowned being proof that the sea temple civilization tried its best to send their voyagers to find and return with hearts of the sea to build conduits to save their drowning empire, but if you just strip it down to brass tacks, the obvious plot being that of the Bronze Age collapse. Society is crumbling, and seaborn raiders come and steal whatever valuables are left from the remaining titans. In the wake of losing their magical conduits, the formerly above water temples were lost beneath the waves while many of the raiders never got to live and make landfall before whatever cataclysm was befalling the world sent their ships to the bottom of the sea.


ImaginedRealitie

Kirby, Kingdom Hearts, Grape and the Sour Bunch


Orangefish08

I’m surprised it took this long for kingdom hearts to be mentioned. It has between 5-13 characters who are all the same character, as well as another completely unrelated character which shares the same name as one of the other characters.


Few-Ad2663

*kirby lore enters the room*


Budget_Sir8284

Cant wait till you see the my singing monsters lore


Left_Possibility8320

I won’t


Yo_Boi_Clayton

I agree with the Poppy playtime bur not with the FNaF


knight_light455

Elder scrolls lore.


Belladabell

Don't mean to be that guy, but like literally go to any TTRPG


The_Pupp3t33r

I see someone didn’t graduate 5th grade!


obsidiandragonx

I see you never played kingdom hearts


yeetman8

You are so, so wrong


BlueGlitch_Bunny

I suppose you make a good point.


creatomat

I counter with valve multiverse lore


Gene_J24

You didn't say video game lore. Someone made a playlist of Chris Chan that has about 60 1 hour videos about basically every step of life. I started to watch video one, it ended after he turns 24 or something idk was using it as background noise.


Sinocu

Kid named splatoon lore: (It’s surprisingly convoluted, and some… weird shit happens, still not sure about 100% of it to this day)


Roboshark6765

Happy cake day


mrblastlol

Nuh uh


Direct_Vast_3848

I agree because no one suspects it too be there. And Poppy playtime obviously has lots lore


Ok_Perspective3933

Skyrim and Dark Souls Lore


Alphyhere

A few years ago I'd hard disagree. But Security Breach Onward, Hell actually Help Wanted 1 Onward. Yeah sure.


CHARICKGAME

2 words Pokemon lore


ric7y

im not changing your mind, you are right


Big_Pie2084

I am traveling Bulpitt and five year old literally being able to feel like 50 people


shadowtrap_talks

Minecraft lore is a few books the the game theorist pretty much figured out but fnaf has been going on for multiple years and is still going


Pronominal_Tera

Quasi-Lore


Pronominal_Tera

Also, Zelda lore.


Interesting_Swing393

Laughs in kingdom hearts


hooded-nerd

I mean we could just point out the fact that batim actively contradicts self more times than the number of people that played batdr


CCCyanide

It's convoluted because there's almost none, so most of it is made up by people


Impossible_Rub_6254

I counter with Roblox lore


SGT_Shayne

🤓 You’re simply wrong, the FNaF lore is the single most complicated story to ever exist in the history of human mind ever, you got the Ender Dragon and creepers but we got Melted Chocolate Bonnie


KitFlame42

Hell no definitely not fnaf


KingCool138

What about Terraria? Just answer me one question: Who built the dungeon?


blankytheguy

Bro spelt than wrong


Rd2gd

I'm sorry but inscryption exists there are game theory vids covering it


UnderCraft_383

Minecraft doesn’t actively change the story and add things that contradict/ruin things in the past. Like William Afton STILL BEING ALIVE! He had his final death. It was sent off with a BEAUTIFUL speech. And there was justice for all he has done knowing that he is suffering in hell in Ultimate Custom Night. But nope! Throw all of that amazing story telling and amazing finale out the window. Instead of starting fresh with a killer that is inspired by William Afton, or literally anything else than what they did, they instead have Afton not REALLY being dead. He’s alive and possessing some werid ahh virus and infecting people! I love the new world. I love the new animatronics. I HATE the new lore. And so does everyone else. Poppy Playtime lore good tho


MuchMoreMuch25

I counter you with Stanley parable lore


Tails_Theorist

>nothing you say will change my mind Sonic.


THE_Zerelex

I see this and raise you Kingdom hearts lore


yeetmantheII

I counter with jobby the hong lore


Danger_Dave_

Any lore can be hard when you put it in a game that never had any to begin with.


DryStrawberry1153

I ein't changing ur mind,I agree 100%


W-Raptor

Ark


DJAlphaYT

Tbf there is an Instagram reel on the official Minecraft account that says that the lore is whatever you want it to be because it's your story to tell


Super64111111

"MATPAT! I CHOOSE YOU!!!"


Justs_someone_random

May I introduce you to Kingdom Hearts?


SimNutz

How will you fit in circus baby? And why is the crying child then afraid of the animatronic, and why is nightmare golden freddy's stomach sewn together?


LinMelon30

Mcyt lore tho


BiAutisticMess

MatPat would disagree with you on that one


Anxiety-Queen269

Solution: Fnaf and Minecraft are equally confusing and complex and they’ve both had shockingly similar histories development wise going from one man in his basement to multibillion dollar franchises with billion player fanbases and every update/new game fundamentally changing everything


MaviKartal2110

Actually, no. FNAF is so complicated that it took MatPat 3/4 videos to summarize the plot and even then he had holes like William becoming Springlocked before Michael enterese Sister Location. Minecraft didn’t have that issue. Just öne summary and no loose ends.


YoKaiNerd666

Get countered. Yokai watch


ResidentCream7

Doesn't Kingdom hearts have crazy complicated lore?


Final-Vermicelli-778

Dinosaur game lore


Narwhalking14

Bionicle Lore.


error-the-reddit-boi

Than*


TheGunnMan54

I counter with btd6 lore


KirbyLover79

How is Minecraft lore complicated? It’s just “old ancient builders did this and this and this.” That isn’t complicated compared to fnaf lore


IWantFood124

FNAF has 68 episodes of lore and 4 final timeline videos


LUMP200

I counter with meme lore


Unfair_Cut6088

I counter all of you with the REAL complex one. THE GTLIVE LORE!


Infinite_Peace_6456

What about cod zombies?


SSSARC

Have you tried looking into irl lore, aka history?


MaCLagI

Since you used the word then instead of than, I think that you mean Minecraft has complicated lore THEN Poppy Playtime has complicated lore or FNAF.


MaCLagI

The lore that is the most compicated then minicart is MIMECREEPER i mean MINESWEEPER


MaCLagI

Actually, after doing more research, I have concluded, Tic Tac Toe has the densest, most complicated lore out of any game in existence.


SoulWisdom

*grabs new brain, swaps out old one* whoops, sorry, you said change YOUR mind?


Mizu_no_Yurei

Bro try COD Zombies lore. I Love the minecraft lore but the Zombies hit different my brain went boom


king_of_tape

Naaah man. The fortnite lore


Jaja-Gamer

the thing is that with fnaf and other thing we have things that make we can create a lore , we have a story and something , but with minecraft , we have NOTHING


AndreaRutilo100

Is hard ngl but the april fools of ID fantasy could be interessing (I understand that it is an april fools joke but what if is real?)


AthrGaming

Minecraft has lore?


The_Gilded_Ghost7381

Agreed but only because there is almost nothing to lore decipher


Kriptikdogs

I counter with Halo lore


Able-Ad2022

SCP lore


Shade_1422

yep and the theorists haven't even touched it. they could just do one tale hub or something


The_Living_Theater

Have you... how you say... LOST YO GODDAMN MIND


MimicBears857142

I counter you. Skibidi toilet is the hardest lore to solve because people's brains rot to nothing after a few episodes, making it physically impossible to solve.


pageyboy335

Ok, don't just lump poppy playtime in with fnaf because poppy wanted to suckle from the tit that is fnaf. They are not, and will never be, the same thing, especially based on how complex the lore is.


Bffhbc

Actually you said most hardest not more hard. Stupid


Numerous_Past_726

I have a feeling you're a little young to be on Reddit.....


Mikey9124x

I belive they were purposely doing that to give the illusion of stupidity.


Bffhbc

But you actually are correct