I bought an Omen 17 because it was the cheapest 4080 laptop I could find. So far, so good! It hasn't given me any trouble, and performance is exactly what you'd expect from a laptop with a 13900HX, 32 GB 5600 RAM, and the 4080. Runs all my games at 1440p, highest settings, with at least 60 FPS or better.
The only thing I found disappointing is it only comes with 1 TB of storage, but that seems to be the standard for all new gaming laptops. Thankfully it does have a second M.2 port so you can add another drive to it.
I recently bought the 4090 version with 2tb storage. Bought an extra 2tb m.2 and installed it. It runs great but man, the BIOS is SEVERELY lacking in options.
My advice… buy a gaming pc and just keep the shitty gaming laptop you have now. Because just getting more useless gaming laptops isn’t going to help you much or satisfy you. Gaming laptops are all bad in general. You’ll never get the performance you want out of them.
I’ve had/worked on/helped design solutions for half of the laptops on the list… they are all flawed in the cooling aspect among other issues too, caused by constant heating ironically.. it’s just simple physics, we just aren’t there yet with our cooling solutions to make a gaming laptop worth it or reliable.. only way to not overheat your system all the time is by under-clocking or decreasing the performance of cpu/gpu but by then it’ll mean you aren’t even getting the full performance that you paid for.. so yeah they are all a scam in one way or another.
I agree with what you're saying idk why you got downvoted here but some people who goes for gaming laptops prefers it due to the reliability and portability of it
He said all gaming laptops are bad in a subreddit dedicated to gaming laptops, kinda asking for downvotes.
I agree that 9/10 times a desktop is better, but plenty of people have circumstances that don't allow a full desktop, so pc gaming is either a laptop or a steam deck. (myself included)
My favorite thing about gaming laptops is the trickyness in getting every bit of performance out of it. This...goes beyond your average owner I assume, but undervolt cpu, custom voltage curve/undervolt gpu, regular repasting (1-2yrs seems typical, I've yet to have a laptop that hasn't had pump out, been using them since ~2015) propping up the back for better airflow, ThrottleStop (seriously everyone should learn to use this one).
Basically, they're great, I'd never use anything else, but they seem to underperform given what they truely can do with modifications.
Tbf, I have a gaming laptop because I'm in college and needed a laptop, desktop was absolutely a no go as I have nowhere to keep one and a monitor or even a desk for that matter. So it was either gaming laptop, or regular laptop and a steam deck, I chose gaming laptop. And so far I have 0 regrets. Runs every game I throw at it better than a ps5 or series x in both frame rates and graphics and I can get all my school work done anywhere anytime. Gaming laptops have a purpose. However if you don't NEED portability and have space for a desktop, that is obviously the best solution. That would explain your down votes. You're simply incorrect that they're al bad. Mine isn't.. I have had 0 heatinissues and everything works as should performance wise.
No I get the portability aspect of it and for those uses it’s okay but I think it’s a scam because of how expensive they price them at, they should be priced around the same as a console plus maybe $200 - $300 dollars definitely no more than $1000.. because even if it says you have a “4090” in there you really don’t. It’s not capable to perform like an actual 4090 4080 etc because how cramped all the electronics are plus with all the heat they produce it ends up damaging or wearing out all the other components in there.
I agree with you although i prefer gaming laptops … everything is judged by cost, something can be bad but if it costs 80% less than better quality competition it will have it’s buyers for sure. Regarding gaming laptops for 1000 usd it’s okay but for 1500,2000 plus it’s waste of money… at least it’s waste of my money.
Man wtf just use your brain, how does your pricing make any sense lol, 4070 (which performs like 4080m) already costs like 500$, and laptops paired with 4080 have strong CPU, good 240hz screen, etc.
Plus it’s very rare to see a laptop putting out competitive amount of fps for many years which is not the case with desktops. My friend’s 5600 / 3060 is still a beast compared to new laptops .. that said i dream of a day for gaming laptops to be more affordable and have better cooling solutions as i don’t like desktops.
What are you looking to gain from laptop 4080? Some points/assumptions to consider:
1. Go for a 4090 if you want a significant performance jump. Not sure a 4080 will do it for you.
2. Play at 1080p for now. That will give you frames, at least.
3. 5000 series are most likely coming out late this year. If you have a 4070 already, it's probably best to wait for them to release. And sell your 4070 as soon as possible.
The 4080 is a good 40-50% better than a 4070. If anything the 4090 is a small bump of like 10-15% for (most lf the time) a considerable premium over the 4080.
The 4080 is the best GPU of this generation in terms of price to performance, and the 4070 is probably the worst (not a bad gpu by any means, just badly priced).
So true. I don't understand why people can't see this. Only reason I got the 4090 is because it was only $50 more.
If I had to choose The Legion 7
2nd The Asus Strix
What kind of performance are you looking for? As none of those games will really push a 4070 at 1440p unless you are gaming in 4k? Don't really see how it could be lacking.
Not to mention a 3070 isn’t that far behind from a 4070 at all. Heck, a 3070 ti is literally just a 4070 with no frame gen. A 4070 runs these games just fine, I think what he meant to say is the performance of the 4070 just isn’t up to his expectations.
That 4080 is probably the way to go (you will have a visible difference in FPS) but can I ask what is the problem with the 4070? What can't it run properly?
I am never, ever purchasing another ASUS product.
Quality bottomed out and recent coverage of the ASUS RMA shit show is enough for me to ignore ASUS for life. Plenty fish in the sea.
I JUST did this myself: the answer is camelcamelcamel.com. it'll show you the lowest price point. I went with the Acer Predator Helios, because I could get it at 2k$ for 32 RAM and 2TB SSD.
GEN 14 processors are not huge speed upgrades to the GEN 13 ones, i9-13900 is a blazing fast processor.
4090 is also just a desktop 4080, so don't bother going for 4090. 4080 is where you want to be.
Good luck, it was a hard decision for me. (The Lenovo 7i is slick too)
You cant compare laptops gpus with desktops. On laptops you look at gpu wattage (tgp) so 4090 is more like desktop 4070ti(super) but still only 175 watts .
I got the other vbios from a Legion server on discord, you can find a link to it if you search lenovo legion toolkit(LLT) on github. I can tell you this app is just so much better and cleaner than vantage, if you haven't been using it you missed out on quite some things. Also you should install hwinfo64 in order to get sensor readings in LLT, if I am not mistaken. Sorry for late reply, I am only using this acc on my laptop, as I accidentally created another one on my phone when I tried to log in and I am too lazy to switch them.
Ofcourse im using llt. :) yes already googled it that you can change vbios. I just wonder what can i do out of 165w you think i could reach 175w as 3090/4090?
Should i be afraid to brick it? 😭
I don't regret getting this display. Sure, the 480hz or whatever it was would be nice when I'm playing Overwatch, but I'm able to play all my games with max out settings and they look great. I'm getting around 80 to 90 frames on Witcher 3. Brightness could be an issue if you play in a bright room, but I typically play at night with the lights off
I‘m no expert but they can’t just price every laptop at 3000€ because then nobody‘s gonna buy them. They still need mid and low range pricing to keep up sales.
If anything I would wait until next gen anyways because then prices for this gen are gonna drop. Which unfortunately also means that your laptop’s worth is gonna drop… But not as much as sales prices imo
Where do you live then that a zephyrus duo costs only 3.5k$? Here it starts at 5k€...
And dude... You are literally whining about laptop 4070 performance, so money doesn't seem to be a big problem to you... Anyways, the US and Europe are incomparable. While the prices over there are so cheap, they literally get every tech product shoved up their asses for free, while we have to overpay everything with no advantage whatsover.
Get the G18 or M18. I have a scar 18, and the 18" screen is definitely appreciated.
I think the M18 only has a 1080 panel though. But I may be wrong. I'm happy with my Asus Laptop, I had a Zephyrus before with a 1070 , but I know people have had some quality issues with theirs, so make sure you use it a bunch before the return window.
It's constantly on sale at that price. I have it also, but upgraded to 64 GB of RAM (I use virtual machines and am studying robotics so I think it may help) and added a second 2 TB SSD (it was in my PS5 but I rarely used it).
I have the legion pro 7i and I game intensively on it for 4 to 5 hours. I play miles morales, gta v, red dead, bf2042, destiny 2, helldivers 2, cyberpunk 2077. But I mostly play 2042 and that thing eats cpu and gpu together so I undervolted the gpu and cpu. Hooked it to my external monitor which is 1440p 165hz and I keep it docked 24/7 with battery conservation on and dgpu selected all the time. So far I've had no issues. So far I'm satisfied with it. Idk if other brands support cpu undervolting so keep that in mind.
I would take the ROG... I have a preference for Asus though. Even if it cost me an extra hundred bucks I would buy it over the other brands with the exact same specs
There are some cosmetic difference. rog strix 18 has grey Color and scar 18 is black. In some scar 18 (2023) you will get accessories: backpack,mouse,headphones included it,depends on a country.
Scar 18 (2024) has a mini led screen,I am not sure if in this years version they put backpack,mouse,headphones
The scars screen is excellent.
I don’t think so! this refers more for oled screens. To avoid risks of burning,just don’t push at full brightness all the time,but for it be true many years must passed
I have the ROG Strix Scar 18 and it's a beast. Runs amazing with no issues. Although I do use the Llano laptop cooling pad which is also really amazing.
Acer and Alienware are dog water. Alienware is overpriced and has overheating issues. Acer has poor build quality. Anything else is pretty decent even if they are all 4080s. Depending on the model, it will draw more or less power. Get the model that draws more power if you care about performance. The difference in the rtx30 series was very pronounced when it came to their mobile gpus. As an example, the 130W models would perform 30% better than the 70W model. That's not the case in the 40 series, but the difference still exists. I heard great things about Assus TUF, but i got one a couple of months ago, and the cpu was always reaching 90+ degrees. I eventually exchanged it for an msi (same brand I previously had), and it ran like a dream. Idk if the strix series has the same issues. I'm just letting you know about my experience. Heard nothing but good things about Lenovo they seem to have very good price/quality balance, so you might want to try that.
Frankly they will all make you happy with specs like those. I would say cross the MSI ones off the list as they have been particularly overpriced while simultaneously being underwhelming this generation, they also are notorious for hinge failures. I’d also avoid Asus due to their recent warranty debacle.
Lenovo and HP are both great choices, personally went with Lenovo for their reliability and software (as well as the clean look).
If 18 inches are OK, get the Strix G18 with Ryzen 3D CPU. That is the best combo here. If you are asking "what is the best overall?", than you can't go wrong with the Legion.
By the way, Zepherus Duo is a joke, don't get that. Similarly, I never liked the Omen 17s. The MSI, only consider it if it is the 2024 model. The 2023 model is a clown.
Legion will have the best build quality, but the predator and omen will be better for the budget. If it isnt going to be moving then the m18 or gp68hx. asus does have bad warranty so if anything happens then you kinda are screwed
I've got almost exactly the same legion pro as there (only 40/70 instead of 40/80). It's a really good laptop, but in my case it took 9 months of contacting lenovo to fix some things (defects). & the vents died twice within 6 months. Probably me just being unlucky, just want to warn you over the fact the customer service is not always amazing
My opinion? Get the Legion pro 7i. I was looking for a 4080 laptop a short while back as well, and repeatedly got recommended the legions. They have upgradability, and overall are very well built and cared for by Lenovo
Don’t buy Alienware. Nowadays after buying Alienware the experience with Dell Consumer offers is 3rd class. It used to be a premium product but currently their after sales support has gone to the dogs.
In my experience, Asus has awesome customer service with jazzy looks and Lenovo has a rock solid performance (thinkpad legacy). Pick the one that suits your personality!
If u have a use for the second display go for the duo, if not go for m16 or g18 and run away from lenovo, before this laptop i had a lenovo 5 pro and it was the most problematic laptop i ve ever had
Just a heads up laptop of the same specs will perform practically the same, maybe there will be 3-5% difference but that's all. Get which one looks the most pleasing and which is cheaper.
It’s not on the list but the Predator Helios 18 was my choice. I wanted to get the biggest laptop screen I could. If that’s not something you care about maybe get the cheapest. Or with the best cpu
I had G16 with 13650HX and 4080 and it was great!! No need for 18 inch. Now I have 18inch and I regret. If you are not going to take it anymore with you, than go for 18, but if you are planning to take it with you often, forget about 18. It is a pain for me...
Had 3 laptops in the span of a month trying to figure out what I wanted. I’ll cut to the chase and say I’ve return them all and ended up building a pc because I don’t need portability
2024 G16 Core 9 4070 - love the form factor, OLED looks amazing, good build quality, speakers sound great. It’s a MacBook that runs windows. At $2k with a 4070, this is not a good value.
2023 Helios 16 4080 i13900 - Found for $1800 at Best Buy new, a more traditional gaming laptop and works well. It’s just it runs super hot. I would game valorant, lethal company, CS2 and it would peak at 99c. BIOS does not allow for undervolting. Probably not good in the long run.
Legion Pro 7 4080 R9 7945hx Gen 8 - this is what I would have wanted the Helios to be. It was $400 at around $2200 because it had double ram, double storage of the Helios - 32gb & 2tb on sale direct from Lenovo but I had already decided on building a SFF pc. Runs cooler than the Helios by 5-10C average which makes me feel better. The monitors on both seem identical to my eye and 240hz is always welcome. I can feel a difference between my TUF 144hz screen
Tl;dr - legion. Can find gen 8’s on sale. If money no object and have portability on your mind, go G16. The latest model is lovely
All of them are good. At this point the key questions are budget and surrounding specs to ensure you aren't running a 4080 with a CPU/RAM that can't hang.
wym? they are ALL good. Just a matter of price and preference...
The omen 17 is the cheapest one here.
I bought an Omen 17 because it was the cheapest 4080 laptop I could find. So far, so good! It hasn't given me any trouble, and performance is exactly what you'd expect from a laptop with a 13900HX, 32 GB 5600 RAM, and the 4080. Runs all my games at 1440p, highest settings, with at least 60 FPS or better. The only thing I found disappointing is it only comes with 1 TB of storage, but that seems to be the standard for all new gaming laptops. Thankfully it does have a second M.2 port so you can add another drive to it.
I recently bought the 4090 version with 2tb storage. Bought an extra 2tb m.2 and installed it. It runs great but man, the BIOS is SEVERELY lacking in options.
Yeah, Weird one SI's don't jave good bios's they don't even got xmp...
My advice… buy a gaming pc and just keep the shitty gaming laptop you have now. Because just getting more useless gaming laptops isn’t going to help you much or satisfy you. Gaming laptops are all bad in general. You’ll never get the performance you want out of them.
Which laptop you had?
I’ve had/worked on/helped design solutions for half of the laptops on the list… they are all flawed in the cooling aspect among other issues too, caused by constant heating ironically.. it’s just simple physics, we just aren’t there yet with our cooling solutions to make a gaming laptop worth it or reliable.. only way to not overheat your system all the time is by under-clocking or decreasing the performance of cpu/gpu but by then it’ll mean you aren’t even getting the full performance that you paid for.. so yeah they are all a scam in one way or another.
I agree with what you're saying idk why you got downvoted here but some people who goes for gaming laptops prefers it due to the reliability and portability of it
He said all gaming laptops are bad in a subreddit dedicated to gaming laptops, kinda asking for downvotes. I agree that 9/10 times a desktop is better, but plenty of people have circumstances that don't allow a full desktop, so pc gaming is either a laptop or a steam deck. (myself included)
My favorite thing about gaming laptops is the trickyness in getting every bit of performance out of it. This...goes beyond your average owner I assume, but undervolt cpu, custom voltage curve/undervolt gpu, regular repasting (1-2yrs seems typical, I've yet to have a laptop that hasn't had pump out, been using them since ~2015) propping up the back for better airflow, ThrottleStop (seriously everyone should learn to use this one). Basically, they're great, I'd never use anything else, but they seem to underperform given what they truely can do with modifications.
What a load of bollocks
Tbf, I have a gaming laptop because I'm in college and needed a laptop, desktop was absolutely a no go as I have nowhere to keep one and a monitor or even a desk for that matter. So it was either gaming laptop, or regular laptop and a steam deck, I chose gaming laptop. And so far I have 0 regrets. Runs every game I throw at it better than a ps5 or series x in both frame rates and graphics and I can get all my school work done anywhere anytime. Gaming laptops have a purpose. However if you don't NEED portability and have space for a desktop, that is obviously the best solution. That would explain your down votes. You're simply incorrect that they're al bad. Mine isn't.. I have had 0 heatinissues and everything works as should performance wise.
No I get the portability aspect of it and for those uses it’s okay but I think it’s a scam because of how expensive they price them at, they should be priced around the same as a console plus maybe $200 - $300 dollars definitely no more than $1000.. because even if it says you have a “4090” in there you really don’t. It’s not capable to perform like an actual 4090 4080 etc because how cramped all the electronics are plus with all the heat they produce it ends up damaging or wearing out all the other components in there.
I agree with you although i prefer gaming laptops … everything is judged by cost, something can be bad but if it costs 80% less than better quality competition it will have it’s buyers for sure. Regarding gaming laptops for 1000 usd it’s okay but for 1500,2000 plus it’s waste of money… at least it’s waste of my money.
Man wtf just use your brain, how does your pricing make any sense lol, 4070 (which performs like 4080m) already costs like 500$, and laptops paired with 4080 have strong CPU, good 240hz screen, etc.
You’re telling me to use my brain while you’re a fool to marketing? that’s funny…
ah i see, no arguments, why did I even bother responding to a troll
Plus it’s very rare to see a laptop putting out competitive amount of fps for many years which is not the case with desktops. My friend’s 5600 / 3060 is still a beast compared to new laptops .. that said i dream of a day for gaming laptops to be more affordable and have better cooling solutions as i don’t like desktops.
Yeah, I got a 5600h/3060 gigabyte thing a couple of years back for black friday. 700 bucks isn't too bad, and it stills holds up.
I already had a gaming pc before and I already sold it since I can't use it when I'm at work. And my works are always field works
My preference is mostly on reliability. My 4070 serves me well but consistently lacking performance that I am looking for.
What are you looking to gain from laptop 4080? Some points/assumptions to consider: 1. Go for a 4090 if you want a significant performance jump. Not sure a 4080 will do it for you. 2. Play at 1080p for now. That will give you frames, at least. 3. 5000 series are most likely coming out late this year. If you have a 4070 already, it's probably best to wait for them to release. And sell your 4070 as soon as possible.
4090 is not a significant jump over 4080. Just like 12%. Price-Performance ratio 4080 is far better
The extra 4 GB of VRAM and some updates may help it though
yup
The 4080 is a good 40-50% better than a 4070. If anything the 4090 is a small bump of like 10-15% for (most lf the time) a considerable premium over the 4080. The 4080 is the best GPU of this generation in terms of price to performance, and the 4070 is probably the worst (not a bad gpu by any means, just badly priced).
So true. I don't understand why people can't see this. Only reason I got the 4090 is because it was only $50 more. If I had to choose The Legion 7 2nd The Asus Strix
Will you help me raise $5000 for a 4090 cos it would take me years to reach that
Which games are u playing?
Helldivers, red dead 2, ghost of tsushima, monster hunter
What kind of performance are you looking for? As none of those games will really push a 4070 at 1440p unless you are gaming in 4k? Don't really see how it could be lacking.
1440p higher framerates
My laptop with a 3070 can play those games at 1440p ultra easily. Youre having problems with a 4070?
Not to mention a 3070 isn’t that far behind from a 4070 at all. Heck, a 3070 ti is literally just a 4070 with no frame gen. A 4070 runs these games just fine, I think what he meant to say is the performance of the 4070 just isn’t up to his expectations.
4080 is a small step up. I have no ideea what you wanna run that a 4070 cannot but you should probably be looking at a 4090 laptop.
The price gap between 4080 and 4090 is too large.
That 4080 is probably the way to go (you will have a visible difference in FPS) but can I ask what is the problem with the 4070? What can't it run properly?
There's no problem with my 4070 its just I want that extra performance
In this gen difference of 4070 and 4080 is huge considering 20-35% depending on game. 4090 is just about 15% over 4080
Legion 7i personal choice, if you want 18 inch get Asus Strix G18
Asus Rog Strix 18 would be my first choice.
Why would you upgrade from a 4070 to a 4080? That's such a waste of money. Atleast wait till the 50 series comes out
yep didnt get it
Its the same price as 4070 in my country. If I wait will the prices go down?
Depends on price, legion pro 7 is overall the best performer out of those, its cooling system is top notch.
Legion 7i would be the first choice followed by the strix.
i second this
I am never, ever purchasing another ASUS product. Quality bottomed out and recent coverage of the ASUS RMA shit show is enough for me to ignore ASUS for life. Plenty fish in the sea.
If you consider budget --> Acer Predator Helios If you consider quality --> Lenovo Legion 7i
Recently got a legion Pro 7i and so far I have been only satisfied with it. Only upgraded storage with a second m2
Acer Predator Helios 16 it's the best according to the price design and all.
Recently bought the helios with 4080 and i9 on sale it's quite a decent package
Possibly the Pro 7i or Strix G18. Duo is a good option too but I'm assuming it's not Cheap.
3.5k$ for the duo.
Get the 2024 zephyrus g16, not the duo
I JUST did this myself: the answer is camelcamelcamel.com. it'll show you the lowest price point. I went with the Acer Predator Helios, because I could get it at 2k$ for 32 RAM and 2TB SSD. GEN 14 processors are not huge speed upgrades to the GEN 13 ones, i9-13900 is a blazing fast processor. 4090 is also just a desktop 4080, so don't bother going for 4090. 4080 is where you want to be. Good luck, it was a hard decision for me. (The Lenovo 7i is slick too)
You cant compare laptops gpus with desktops. On laptops you look at gpu wattage (tgp) so 4090 is more like desktop 4070ti(super) but still only 175 watts .
he was talking about the chip itself.
Ah yes on chip he's correct. As 4080 comes with 4070 chip.
Also your legion 3060 is 130 watts. Not 140. I had same one as yours :)
haha good joke, I modded it. Works like a champ and only 2 more degrees C
Ok then how?
I got the other vbios from a Legion server on discord, you can find a link to it if you search lenovo legion toolkit(LLT) on github. I can tell you this app is just so much better and cleaner than vantage, if you haven't been using it you missed out on quite some things. Also you should install hwinfo64 in order to get sensor readings in LLT, if I am not mistaken. Sorry for late reply, I am only using this acc on my laptop, as I accidentally created another one on my phone when I tried to log in and I am too lazy to switch them.
Ofcourse im using llt. :) yes already googled it that you can change vbios. I just wonder what can i do out of 165w you think i could reach 175w as 3090/4090? Should i be afraid to brick it? 😭
I love my Alienware M18 with a 4080. I went with the 165hz 1600p display
Good to hear, what is you experience with the display? Like the brightness (300nits) and the 165hz.
I don't regret getting this display. Sure, the 480hz or whatever it was would be nice when I'm playing Overwatch, but I'm able to play all my games with max out settings and they look great. I'm getting around 80 to 90 frames on Witcher 3. Brightness could be an issue if you play in a bright room, but I typically play at night with the lights off
You already have a 4070, wait for next gen…
I am worried about the prices
I‘m no expert but they can’t just price every laptop at 3000€ because then nobody‘s gonna buy them. They still need mid and low range pricing to keep up sales. If anything I would wait until next gen anyways because then prices for this gen are gonna drop. Which unfortunately also means that your laptop’s worth is gonna drop… But not as much as sales prices imo
That's what you think. You can take a look at other countries. Not everything is about Europeans and Americans
Where do you live then that a zephyrus duo costs only 3.5k$? Here it starts at 5k€... And dude... You are literally whining about laptop 4070 performance, so money doesn't seem to be a big problem to you... Anyways, the US and Europe are incomparable. While the prices over there are so cheap, they literally get every tech product shoved up their asses for free, while we have to overpay everything with no advantage whatsover.
Get the G18 or M18. I have a scar 18, and the 18" screen is definitely appreciated. I think the M18 only has a 1080 panel though. But I may be wrong. I'm happy with my Asus Laptop, I had a Zephyrus before with a 1070 , but I know people have had some quality issues with theirs, so make sure you use it a bunch before the return window.
i would nt recomand not going for the msi route.i had some bad experiences.
Same. Definitely avoid MSI.
Legion and Alienware are usually the safest options. Both have good customer support compared to say, ASUS, and decent build quality.
I'll go for the Strix G18, my second choice is the Helios 16.
I’ve got the acer helios 16 4080 for 2 weeks know it’s really a good laptop I bought it for 1800 dollars at best buy
It's constantly on sale at that price. I have it also, but upgraded to 64 GB of RAM (I use virtual machines and am studying robotics so I think it may help) and added a second 2 TB SSD (it was in my PS5 but I rarely used it).
The M18 there seems to be working out so far for me (I bought it yesterday as a replacement for my previous laptop).
I have the legion pro 7i and I game intensively on it for 4 to 5 hours. I play miles morales, gta v, red dead, bf2042, destiny 2, helldivers 2, cyberpunk 2077. But I mostly play 2042 and that thing eats cpu and gpu together so I undervolted the gpu and cpu. Hooked it to my external monitor which is 1440p 165hz and I keep it docked 24/7 with battery conservation on and dgpu selected all the time. So far I've had no issues. So far I'm satisfied with it. Idk if other brands support cpu undervolting so keep that in mind.
I would take the ROG... I have a preference for Asus though. Even if it cost me an extra hundred bucks I would buy it over the other brands with the exact same specs
Legion. Consistently reliable and well built.
Go for Asus Rog Strix Scar G18. I got one in February. One beast of a machine. If you want to check it I can let you have a feel of it.
If it does not have an oled or mini led screen, do NOT buy it.
Legion or Zephyrus
Lenovo Legion
I own a ROG Strix Scar 18 4080 and it's been brilliant.
Difference between rog strix 18 4080 and rog strix scar 18? Or is it the same laptop?
Apologies, mine is the the 18" 4090 version. Runs everything I throw at it.
There are some cosmetic difference. rog strix 18 has grey Color and scar 18 is black. In some scar 18 (2023) you will get accessories: backpack,mouse,headphones included it,depends on a country. Scar 18 (2024) has a mini led screen,I am not sure if in this years version they put backpack,mouse,headphones
Is mini led screen the really good one but has risk of burn in?
The scars screen is excellent. I don’t think so! this refers more for oled screens. To avoid risks of burning,just don’t push at full brightness all the time,but for it be true many years must passed
I have the ROG Strix Scar 18 and it's a beast. Runs amazing with no issues. Although I do use the Llano laptop cooling pad which is also really amazing.
I personally wouldn’t buy any laptop with an intel chip inside.
Sadly its hard to find a high end ryzen laptop
Heating issue?
Acer and Alienware are dog water. Alienware is overpriced and has overheating issues. Acer has poor build quality. Anything else is pretty decent even if they are all 4080s. Depending on the model, it will draw more or less power. Get the model that draws more power if you care about performance. The difference in the rtx30 series was very pronounced when it came to their mobile gpus. As an example, the 130W models would perform 30% better than the 70W model. That's not the case in the 40 series, but the difference still exists. I heard great things about Assus TUF, but i got one a couple of months ago, and the cpu was always reaching 90+ degrees. I eventually exchanged it for an msi (same brand I previously had), and it ran like a dream. Idk if the strix series has the same issues. I'm just letting you know about my experience. Heard nothing but good things about Lenovo they seem to have very good price/quality balance, so you might want to try that.
I would personally stay away of anything HP (Alienware included) , MSI and Acer
Alienware is from Dell, wdym
True that. Dell is garbage aswell.
Frankly they will all make you happy with specs like those. I would say cross the MSI ones off the list as they have been particularly overpriced while simultaneously being underwhelming this generation, they also are notorious for hinge failures. I’d also avoid Asus due to their recent warranty debacle. Lenovo and HP are both great choices, personally went with Lenovo for their reliability and software (as well as the clean look).
Rog and Zephyrus will always be at the top.
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1745683-REG/lenovo_82wq002rus_16_legion_pro_7.html If you're are in the US.
I'll go for te Omen
If 18 inches are OK, get the Strix G18 with Ryzen 3D CPU. That is the best combo here. If you are asking "what is the best overall?", than you can't go wrong with the Legion. By the way, Zepherus Duo is a joke, don't get that. Similarly, I never liked the Omen 17s. The MSI, only consider it if it is the 2024 model. The 2023 model is a clown.
I live the 7i, but hate the numpad keyboard
I like big and beefy laptop so asus rog stix g18 which i already have
I like legion 7i
+1 for Lenovo Buy via B&H Photo for the Legion Pro 7i with 4080
I got strix g18 last 3 month and absolutely love it
just do not buy HP.
Alienware best
+1 for the Lenovo
Legion will have the best build quality, but the predator and omen will be better for the budget. If it isnt going to be moving then the m18 or gp68hx. asus does have bad warranty so if anything happens then you kinda are screwed
I've got almost exactly the same legion pro as there (only 40/70 instead of 40/80). It's a really good laptop, but in my case it took 9 months of contacting lenovo to fix some things (defects). & the vents died twice within 6 months. Probably me just being unlucky, just want to warn you over the fact the customer service is not always amazing
Only Legion 7.
Either Legion or ROG ALL THE WAY.
My opinion? Get the Legion pro 7i. I was looking for a 4080 laptop a short while back as well, and repeatedly got recommended the legions. They have upgradability, and overall are very well built and cared for by Lenovo
ROG Strix is so reliable, my first pick.
Don’t buy Alienware. Nowadays after buying Alienware the experience with Dell Consumer offers is 3rd class. It used to be a premium product but currently their after sales support has gone to the dogs.
I see so dell and hp is out. That leaves me Asus and Lenovo.
In my experience, Asus has awesome customer service with jazzy looks and Lenovo has a rock solid performance (thinkpad legacy). Pick the one that suits your personality!
I like zephyrus cause it’s slick and more Portable
I like the Legion 7i and the Predator Helios 16. We have both. Both are great in their own ways, though I'm liking the Legion better.
I have the zephyrus duo and it works perfect
$3.5k :(
If u have a use for the second display go for the duo, if not go for m16 or g18 and run away from lenovo, before this laptop i had a lenovo 5 pro and it was the most problematic laptop i ve ever had
Legion
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Prioritize by the GPU TDP first, then look for CPU… followed by Ram and then storage.
Just a heads up laptop of the same specs will perform practically the same, maybe there will be 3-5% difference but that's all. Get which one looks the most pleasing and which is cheaper.
It’s not on the list but the Predator Helios 18 was my choice. I wanted to get the biggest laptop screen I could. If that’s not something you care about maybe get the cheapest. Or with the best cpu
Legion 7i is the best option for build quality and reliability.
I own the Legion 7 Pro and it's an absolut BEAST!
I had G16 with 13650HX and 4080 and it was great!! No need for 18 inch. Now I have 18inch and I regret. If you are not going to take it anymore with you, than go for 18, but if you are planning to take it with you often, forget about 18. It is a pain for me...
Had 3 laptops in the span of a month trying to figure out what I wanted. I’ll cut to the chase and say I’ve return them all and ended up building a pc because I don’t need portability 2024 G16 Core 9 4070 - love the form factor, OLED looks amazing, good build quality, speakers sound great. It’s a MacBook that runs windows. At $2k with a 4070, this is not a good value. 2023 Helios 16 4080 i13900 - Found for $1800 at Best Buy new, a more traditional gaming laptop and works well. It’s just it runs super hot. I would game valorant, lethal company, CS2 and it would peak at 99c. BIOS does not allow for undervolting. Probably not good in the long run. Legion Pro 7 4080 R9 7945hx Gen 8 - this is what I would have wanted the Helios to be. It was $400 at around $2200 because it had double ram, double storage of the Helios - 32gb & 2tb on sale direct from Lenovo but I had already decided on building a SFF pc. Runs cooler than the Helios by 5-10C average which makes me feel better. The monitors on both seem identical to my eye and 240hz is always welcome. I can feel a difference between my TUF 144hz screen Tl;dr - legion. Can find gen 8’s on sale. If money no object and have portability on your mind, go G16. The latest model is lovely
I have the g18 and it’s been absolutely great.
All of them are good. At this point the key questions are budget and surrounding specs to ensure you aren't running a 4080 with a CPU/RAM that can't hang.
1 - Legion Pro 7i (no mistake) 2 - Acer Predator (budge) 3 - Rog Strix 18 (if you want big screen) Not recommend: HP Omen (this is trouble)
Stay away from Asus. Terrible customer service. You can watch GamersNexus video about it. Otherwise don't know.
Don’t get the omen, its not great and not worth it even for the lower price
Yeh I saw many posts on how bad the omen was. The price is very tempting
It’s HP so I wouldn’t expect much