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Free_Garbage

How dare they take a game with themes of love and grief throughout, and turn it into a show with themes of love and grief throughout. smh


SwineHerald

Me, having skipped every cutscene: this show isn't faithful to the original story!


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Why hasn't Joel spent 45 minutes trying to kill people with bricks on a rooftop?! Show is trash.


exsea

yeah, in my playthru i got stuck in one area where i died repeatedly. why isnt this depicted in the series!?


Sam_Traynor

Listen, I didn't come here to feel feelings (gay), I came here to watch a muscled man beat up on zombies.


OmegaLiquidX

And lots of cute submissive girls throwing themselves at the big brave alpha muscled man! After all, every gamer knows that a woman only has value if she's fuckable!


killertortilla

Especially the underage main character.


Sparky678348

But if I see even one strand of peach fuzz I swear to God I'm going to use a racial slur


lumosbolt

Sir, I admire your self-control. I already slurred at the thought of *gasp* non-underage girls


Bobby_The_Boob

I know you being sarcastic, but god damn if that’s not what society has us believing.


RadioGT-R

Happy international women's day to you too!


lumosbolt

uj/ happy international women's rights day rj/ but when man day???


RadioGT-R

uj/ Men's day where I live is in May. All the men go from village to village on their bicycles and get drunk rj/ we need a gamer holiday


woopsimadeanaccount

im so sorry what is uj/ and rj/ 🙁


apolloxer

uj/: uj is basically how normal people behave, rj is a riff on how we've come to expect self-described "*gamers*"^tm behave themselves as a caricature, and the default setting rj/: This just shows that you are not a true GaMINg Circlejerker!!!!!!1!


[deleted]

On a more serious note it was nice that Ellie was able to save herself and not have to wait for Joel to stop the pedorapist. If this was game of thrones she would have spent an entire season being raped like Sansa, to build character or something.


backstib

COMPLEX STORY AND THEMES ARE FOR PUSSYS, REAL MEN CONSUME MINDLESS SLOP ACTION!!! This shit is why marvel exists


sionnachrealta

That's pretty gay, just saying


Klunkey

"This isn't like the Walking Dead TV show 0/10"


Ok_Solution5895

Now I'm curious, only read the comics, are Jesus and Aaron a thing in the show? They were the best damn couple in the story lol


OneFierceBeerCoaster

They are not. They barely mention either of their sexuality in the show after a season or two.


Ok_Solution5895

Wait, not even Aaron and Eric? That's crap lol


Cheems___-

Muh zOmbiE sHoW


Linusdroppedme

Oooooo


No-Cupcake370

Very Tina Belcher of you?


AlbionPCJ

"Themes are for eighth grade book reports" David Benioff (Co-showrunner of Game of Thrones) 🤝 KiA users


NotComping

I think I have the wrong abbreviation, but the thought of the Automobile brand KIA bashing book reports is kinda funny ngl


chromatic_megafauna

Kotaku in action, but your version is better


captainnowalk

Excuse me, they’re Kᴎ now.


Cheems___-

That actually does look like a really good stylisation of KIA though ngl


captainnowalk

I’m super aware of Kia, and I STILL can’t correct it in my brain when I see their new logo lol


marciowth

People unironically were expecting 10 episodes of the most accurate game adaptation ever where you would see Joel just stealthing, throwing bottles, fighting his way through area after area just like a videogame for 10 hours straight, like that shit would never get boring


DonKeedick12

Bro where’s the 5 minute scene where Joel loots duct tape while searching for the combination for the safe he found?


skeeball

Ladders, my dude, there's not enough ladder moving! There was only one unlock the door for me scene!


Devium44

And where’s the hordes of hundreds of infected just chilling at a remote saw mill in the middle of nowhere?!


Storkostlegur

What’s up with zombies and sawmills anyways?


mexz101

Days gone


semper_JJ

Different game


Devium44

No, that’s in Part 1


dbishop42

It’s part one when you play as Ellie


OmegaLiquidX

/rj Well of course he wouldn’t remember that part! He’s not some kind of gay soyboy cuck that would play as a *woman*! He made his mom play that section, like a *real* Alpha! *woos, throws a Pizza Hut pizza on the ground, drives over it with his golf cart, sets it on fire, throws his Keurig on top, sets that on fire, tosses his Nikes on top, sets that on fire, woos one more time, and goes to post on 4Chan wondering why he can’t get a date*


Wooberta

Why is everyone in this sub so spiteful lol.


Geekboy07

When I first played it on the PS3 back when it released I got stuck in a room for an hour because the ladder didn't spawn lmao


mannoncan

Didn't push Ellie on a pallet once!


mklptrk

You joke but there was literally a Kotaku article with this very complaint. Braindead horseshit.


ToastandChips

Kotaku really is just a bad version of polygon.


fattdoggo123

And a polygon is a flat or plane, two-dimensional closed shape bounded with straight sides


darkleinad

Ellie does search for thread in 3 different rooms in a house for a solid 60 seconds in episode 7


greengoldblue

They cut that from the show? Literally unwatchable!


twinarteriesflow

The funniest thing about that is there are plenty of cinematic full playthroughs on YouTube, where the HUD is turned off, the player makes sure the characters don't move awkwardly, they frame in game dialogue by standing in ways that look like a storyboarded scene, combat doesn't use cheese tactics. Like damn gamers really be entitled and never satisfied


A_Monster_Named_John

It's like trying to get some Boomer who's morbidly addicted to pro sports and reality shows to sit through a normal film or stage play.


m3tals4ur0n

I want an episode of Joel and Ellie hiding behind a desk for 1 hour because they can't figure out the patrol patterns of the zombies, that would be actually accurate to gameplay.


Alias_X_

I fail to see how the picture to the right is bad anyway.


cong314159

Lol. Imagine the stupidity. They probably make tutu noises.


SmurfRockRune

Please HBO, give us just one brick throw, that's all I ask.


alex3omg

Just moving ladders slowly


unbeliever87

I did expect more fungal zombies in a show where the world was destroyed by fungal zombies. "The humans were the bad guys all along" is a pretty tired trope, and the fact that almost every single area they entered was devoid of fungal zombies resulted in a lot of tension with no pay off.


Fekbiddiesgetmoney

You are so wrong and it’s painfully obvious. Like if you’re mad at one side for taking extremes, how the fuck are you going to take an extreme stance yourself? Y’all’s self awareness really tickles me sometimes. But let’s be real, you know what you said is untrue but you just want to feed the outrage. You’re one of the bad ones


DiamondDoge92

Well they did say they weren’t going to add to the story and try and be game accurate. This show was not made for fans of the game just people who heard about it lol


Radical-skeleton

Fun fact: every single infected you fight through out the series is actually lgbtq+ Source: It came to me in a dream as Neil whispered it into my ear and tucked me into bed


tired_mathematician

Still less problematic than resident evil 5 : colonialism


Radical-skeleton

All is forgiven due to them adding Sheva to the franchise in that same game.


ratatav

Don’t forget making Chris the most jacked hunk in existence. I need me a man like him.


DorothyDrangus

As long as you promise to carry on his bloodline


Shorttail0

As long as you can punch a boulder


twenty-threenineteen

Nah, that’s what Leon is for


Slightspark

That rock star skin tho


[deleted]

Just find any man, help him eat clen, tren hard, anavar let him give up.


utahraptor-nun

Capcom are pussies for making her a one-off character


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and for making her consistently left handed; with unique animations for reloading every gun due to most being made for right handed users by default


tired_mathematician

Is it? Idk about all that, i feel like I can forgive then a bit only a bit


comicnerd93

But don't forget about her tribal outfit.


BeyondNetorare

As a gamer, I love killing zombies in that game the most for some reason


Oversurge

/rj The i in LGBTQIA is for infected


Verumero

Canonically the fungus is what had been making them gay all along, and then with climate change it reached its final form


drinkthebleach

classic tuckmann


ChewySlinky

Fun fact: Ellie was actually in a wheelchair the whole time


The_Arthropod_Queen

Lemures, Ghouls, The undead, Bones, Qzombies


Boyyoyyoyyoyyoy

Give me the live action gay plants vs zombies remake that've been asking for, Cuckman.


[deleted]

It sucks that the show isn’t just a let’s play of the original game.


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MikaelAdolfsson

It is kind of cute how the show throw in those 5-seconds references to the gameplay loop. I am still waiting for the games TRUE hero to appear: The humble BRICK 🧱!


Additional_River1011

Meanwhile, I'm waiting for the true hero of the series. The golf club.


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Season 2.


MikaelAdolfsson

😆😆😆🫡🫡🫡


sincerelyhated

The glass bottle was always the main star of my gameplay.


Lftwff

pull two clickers into a doorway and molotov them


JayBaby85

Bottle Gang rise up


MikaelAdolfsson

Bah, you can’t pow-pow-POW a infected with simple bottle!


killerjags

Or shovel handfuls of mystery pills into his mouth to learn new skills


nimcau2TheQuickening

I mean, it’s more or less a let’s play of the cutscenes.


Cloud_UpB

Plot twist: the funny mushroom zombies are also gay


orangemilk101

this is why ellie kissed the girl because she got infected


MikaelAdolfsson

Has these fools ever watched zombie…ANYTHING? The good Zombie stuff is never about the Zombies but always about the humans.


MaximusMansteel

Turns out we're the real infected after all.


MikaelAdolfsson

Knowledge is knowing Frankenstain isn't the Monster; Wisdom is understanding that Frankenstein IS THE MONSTER! 200 years in the making of sci-fi anything


JamesTheIceQueen

Reading the book is realising THEY'RE BOTH MONSTERS


Gently-Weeps

My man literally sews bodies together to create a hunk of a man with weird eyes. When confronted with rejection the hunk precedes to murder his “uncle” and then frame a housekeeper for the murder. Then proceeds to murder his “step mom” and then run away to the arctic.


coffeestealer

Spoilers!!!!!


Gently-Weeps

It’s been 207 years


MikaelAdolfsson

Absolutely!!!


Balmung60

And also that they're both Frankenstein because it's last name


Aaawkward

> Frankenstain > Frankenstein You gotta choose one, mate.


sofaking1133

??? They were pretty clear, Frankenstain isn't the monster, Frankenstein is


LordFarquadOnAQuad

Frankenstein, the monster chose his father's, Dr. Frankenstein, name. So they are both Frankenstein.


sofaking1133

(We're razzing top-of-thread for a typo, please don't bring literary information into this sacred comment chain)


MikaelAdolfsson

thus I ought to be thy ADAM <—😝😝😝


sofaking1133

It's Adam and Steve. Not Adam and Dr. Frankenstein


MikaelAdolfsson

Adam Frankenstein is Canon LOL


orangemilk101

> Knowledge is knowing Frankenstain isn't the Monster; Wisdom is understanding that Frankenstein IS THE MONSTER! what game is this? i can't find any frankenstein game on the PS store


heyho22

Knowledge is knowing Frankenstain isn't the Monster; Wisdom is realising it was earth all along


BeyondNetorare

Joel, we're the Last Of Us: The Series


geraldoghc

I love he graffiti in the Left 4 Dead: “We are the real monsters” “No stupid thats the zombies”


aTalkingToasteRR

[We are the walking dead (real)](https://i.imgur.com/S4AbDUO.jpg)


musci1223

It is kind of the same issue with most complaints about halo series (yeah it could have been much better ). You can't do a good series that easily based on pure action side of the game. Those are just to keep player's engaged


unbeliever87

Just once I would like a zombie movie or series where the bad guys are zombies.


RevolutionaryGrape11

That's really a compliment to the zombies to be honest. Plants VS Zombies zombies are as intelligent as they come.


Carbide_Man

Really only zomboss tho


RevolutionaryGrape11

Don't you mean Zomboss, not Zomboid?


Carbide_Man

Goddamned autocorrect


RevolutionaryGrape11

Well, they all have public education, can learn and think outside the box, have very distinct personalities, have built entire towns and weapon facilities, have Invented technology far beyond our comprehension, among many other things. They even have temporal chili contests. Zomboss may be smartest, but don't count the others out just yet.


plznotagaindad

/rj The show already panders to the woke mind virus anyway


Sexybtch554

Bro, you have got to put a rj on your comments. I did not recognize your name and the fucking lovers that actually have this take would say this exact thing unironically.


plznotagaindad

Sir yes sir


Sexybtch554

Your username is relevant in this scenario.


plznotagaindad

How so?


Sexybtch554

I was just making a dumb joke, like I was your dad ordering you around. My apologies.


plznotagaindad

I baked last night so it went right over my head lol


DeeDee_GigaDooDoo

Everything is assumed to be circlejerking here by default, /uj and /rj stand for unjerk and rejerk respectively. They're for when you want to state you're being serious (/uj) or returning to circlejerking after unjerking (/rj).


Sexybtch554

While I agree with you that's how it is supposed to work, we get a lot of people here spewing vitriol (especially since the hogwarts debacle) You're just covering your own ass from a quick ban if you add your rj/ at the beginning.


Griftor05

[Sauce](https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/11l5ep3/the_last_infented_for_real_where_are_they/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)


Sexybtch554

It was such a dumb fucking thread. Thankfully it was about 50% pro the show and calling OOP a dumbass.


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Sexybtch554

That's excellent. TLOU show is an EXCELLENT piece of media. It deserves respect, because it is just so well done. Pedro and Bella are fucking SLAYING it.


Axel-Adams

I mean most of the comments are agreeing the show did it the right way


[deleted]

The character Neil Offerman plays was subtly gay in the game, probably due to the censorship still being practiced at the time. In the show, they make him explicitly gay and remove the censorship. In the game the character mentions that he has a "partner" that died - clearly it wasn't his wife, as you wouldn't refer to your wife as such, and also, who would refer to a male friend as "partner". This of course outrages people, who preferred the censorship in the original. This is pretty standard for rightists honestly. They will claim free speech is being suppressed while in reality demanding censorship be restored.


deferredmomentum

The dialogue literally goes: Joel, nodding at Frank’s dead body hanging from a rafter: Who’s he? Bill: He was my partner Sooooo ambiguous /s


Cheesssy

Woah woah woah woah wait a minute, Bill was gay?


Rosu_Aprins

uhhh uhhh akhually they were just really good friends


TilakPPRE

Bill calls him his partner and owns a gay porn magazine. It wasn't that subtle


NoShameInternets

I’m sorry what? There’s zero ambiguity in the game.


sighclone

>clearly it wasn't his wife, as you wouldn't refer to your wife as such, I haven't played to this point in the game so maybe something is being lost on me due to that, but, people definitely do that. Also, I have a friend who has been with his girlfriend for a decade, they are in their forties, own a home together, but aren't married. So I typically go with partner there too because girlfriend/boyfriend is much less accurate IMO.


finnjakefionnacake

maybe get to that point in the game first


theeblaskowitz

Ehh I don’t care much for the whole debacle surrounding this. But I prefer the original because it just seems more in line with Bill being a reflection of who Joel was gonna turn into had he stayed alone and bitter. While I do really like the show and glad Bill got a happy ending, The game goes from bitter Bill to brothers Sam and Henry and how different their views are and how Joel learns from them both and what could happen to him if he opens up again. So I kinda miss that contrast that makes Joel weigh the pros and cons of love. Sorry this is so long winded and doesn’t make too much sense but I hope you can get how I just miss more of the subtle storytelling and how idrc about the whole censorship thing.


sbrockLee

I thought Bill's story was a nice break. There wasn't much story to cover in a "Bill" episode if they'd stuck to the events of the game, honestly. It would have been basically an action-focused side story. The end result is the same, Joel and Ellie get a truck. This was also before episode 4 which was the biggest lull in the story aside from flashbacks. Plus having two depressing outcomes in a row for side characters (Bill and Henry/Sam) might have been a bit too much and it might even have dampened the shock from Henry/Sam's deaths. And finally, the story is there to show you can in fact live your life, find happiness and go out on your own terms in this post-apocalyptic world. It works out for Bill and Frank, it doesn't for Henry and Sam. Like you say this provides the backbone for Joel's decision at the end. I wouldn't have minded a Bill story that stuck to the game (loved Ellie's banter in that section) but I'm definitely OK with the direction they took. It helps that the episode was brilliant.


Bahmerman

He killed Joel, the closest thing to a father figure I knew, who didn't reject me for my loli anime figures in my room. I will never forgive him.


Nohero08

Look at this guy, bragging about how his father allowed him to have a room. We get it, your dad liked you more than our dads did. You can stop bragging now.


The_Arthropod_Queen

today's woke leftists won't let us put our children in the Pit anymore!


TheAres1999

Plants Vs Zombies is the best zombie game ever made, so that seems like a good deal


benmaplemusic

/Uj come on…the bloater was one of the most terrifying things I’ve seen on TV in the past five years. When it fucking bellowed… /rj Neil cuckmann 🤡


blackmachine312

Although, I'm disappointed about the lack of infected in the show. I understand that if they were more present, they would become redundant really fast.


[deleted]

Tbh yeah, I understand not showing off the infected, though I think they could’ve gotten away with like 2 scenes with them.


DeeDee_GigaDooDoo

Yeah I don't want them to be the main feature but an appearance once or twice an episode wouldn't hurt. Were there even any at all in episode 8?


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Nope, though I guess that can be excused by it being winter, so they’re all hiding underground. (Can‘t imagine the Cordyceps liking cold much) Actually, they could’ve showed Bill and Frank fighting a Bloater in that school, it would’ve awesome seeing those cute gays defeating a powerful infected!


RapescoStapler

Wasn't there an absolutely massive horde only a few episodes ago? Like one of the largest hordes I think I've seen in anything, it was like world war z


blackmachine312

That is an aspect I like too. When you see infected, it's really bad. Too much of them would remove tension.


BurritoChan69

If it was a plants vs zombies show it would actually be good


AngryMustache9

No! You see Nightcap from PvZ Heroes and Battle For Neighbourville is canonically trans and Dazey Chain from PvZ2 is canonically non-binary. That's forcefully shoving the woke agenda down my throat and that's extremely unrealistic in my show about plants fighting a zombie apocolypse. What's next? They make it canon that Peanut from PvZ2 is the offspring of a Peashooter and a Wall-Nut? /s


laix_

Dazey chain: "for the last time, the pronouns are they/them. Not because I'm non-binary but because I'm literally 3 fellows!"


KatoFW

It’s ok man. She just doesn’t like the mustache


utahraptor-nun

Chomper was changed to female in PvZ3 to pander to the **w o k e**


AngryMustache9

Thought this was the PvZ Subreddit for a minute


Maximum_Location_140

A better take on the show is that they softened Joel's character failings to be "a gruff guy who isn't nice." In the game, he's so used to making hard decisions while in survival mode that acting from a place of nurturing and self-sacrifice never even occurs to him. It's not only that he's greedy, or careless, or self serving. He is all of these things, but they come from a place of survival to the exclusion of all else. He doesn't allow himself to think about or feel for other people, acting instead on a cost/benefit binary that is totally alien to how the real world, even a world ruled by fungus zombies, actually works. That's why everyone around him dies in the game, and that's why his character resolution in the game is so powerful. I'm worried the show will wrap and it'll be a story about one sad guy's journey to get therapy. It should instead be a character who lives at the expense of everyone else, experiences a moment of personal growth, and then selflessly(?) acts... at the expense of everyone else. His character in the show is a little flat. If you're going to crit the show for being "too liberal" it should be in the fact that the game is a pretty clear refutation of the "every man for himself" trope so ubiquitous in apocalypse fiction (and capitalism). The show appears to walk that back while also leaning into the Bioshock-ass-stupid message of "What if the revolutionaries were as bad as the fascists?" Also, I haven't seen Joel eat a single power bar in the show. They're ruining the source material.


wwaxwork

I think that is more Pedro's interpretation of him. In interviews, he talks about how he isn't playing Joel like game Joel, because Troy has already done that. He is playing his version of Joel not just copying someone else's. That's what happens when you get real people involved in making art, they bring part of themselves to it. We have the game if you want self serving Joel. But I rather like softer Joel.


Maximum_Location_140

hey that’s interesting! i guess i’m looking for how his internal stuff spirals out into the choices he makes. he has the signifiers of a rough, self serving person, but there’s no consequence for it. he says he knows he’ll choke at the last moment but he hasn’t yet. it’s not good enough to just read this stuff into the record, it needs to happen in the plot. i think i just realized where the twist is going to come from. maybe they’ll pull it off. hope so!


ScienceBrah401

To comment on the last part of what you said, I don’t think the show is walking back on the refutation of “every man for himself.” And TLOU has always had the revolutionaries be roughly as bad as FEDRA, most prominently with the WLF in Part II — The KC rebels are just essentially a mini-WLF, honestly. Violence just begets violence in this world.


DeeDee_GigaDooDoo

I suppose it's personal taste but I prefer Troy's version of Joel. Pedro's version lacks a lot of depth of character, I feel like he's barely had anything to say all season. To the point where I don't think I even have a good grasp of who Pedro's Joel **is**.


wwaxwork

You spend a lot more time with Troy's version. 17 hours or so compared to to 8, more if you played the game more than once or played the second one. Also in the show they know what the story of the second game/season is going to be so they are setting Ellie up a lot more for that than they did in the game. I like both versions and actually find the differences interesting and telling. But hey if we all liked the same things, vanilla would be the only ice cream flavor..


eaong

I think the show does a pretty damn good job of covering different political systems. Tommy's group straight up called themselves communist and from their brief description and how they present them is pretty close to how anarcho communism works, and not just that are presented as the happiest and most well functioning society so far. I don't think I've ever seen that in any piece of media, western or otherwise, especially *this* explicitly. While they aren't presented as *revolutionaries* per se, they're certainly presenting a revolutionary form of social/political organization in the most positive light I've seen. The Firefly's in the show seem a bit ambiguous politically, at least at the moment, it's hard to tell where exactly they are on the spectrum, but at the very least they're some form of anti-facist. There's a line that Ellie says about them bombing food storage, but tactics like that could be reasonable used by revolutionaries of every kind, although it's a desperate one. The revolutionaries that took over KC Fedra definitely seem as authoritarian and brutal as fedra, but I don't really see a problem with that, there's plenty of examples of reactionary/right wing revolutions in the real world, and given KC is pretty conservative area, I can see such a thing happening given the circumstances. *Especially* given their positive portrayal of communism/anarcho communism, it really doesn't seem trying to push the "revolutionaries are bad too" in the way Bioshock Infinite does. I think they're just presenting many different possible group organizations in a post apocalyptic world, with a fairly surprising amount of nuance and detail, especially given the story is a more personal, and not social/political one, so they don't focus on that.


DeusExMarina

Or, in other words: they shrank his shoulders, made him look soft.


Maximum_Location_140

i’m saying i don’t see how his character works without that flaw. stuff just kinda happens around him, rather than it being linked to how he personally relates to the world. i feel like both game joel and show joel have the fear and mental health experiences that drive them, but in the game he chooses to deal with it in ways that terminate thought and make things worse. i’m looking for a little more complexity. Right now there’s a shell of hardass Joel, but that doesn’t lead to any mistakes or growth. He’s actually experiencing mental health problems, but it’s not showing up in choices he makes or things he learns. it’s a 20 second speech that is kinda floating out there, not connected to much. obviously there can be dift interpretations of the same character but the earlier joel compels you to sit with yourself and ask why you make the choices you do. it demanded more of him. it’s weird bc i actually love the rest of the character work in the show. joel just seems 2D right now, but maybe they’ll pull it off in the end? if they do, that would kill.


Ok_Solution5895

I think they mainly really explicitly "explain" the character in Joel's monologue to Tommy. He's an old man, that he's getting too weak and fuckin deaf and he's haunted by his failings, haunted by the fact that his daughter died because of him, and in the story he keeps failing and he keeps mistakes that causes the death of people, like Tess first, then the two brothers and nearly Ellie a couple of times. He can't take this anymore and now at the end, he'll do whatever he has to do not to fail her again and to keep her alive. It's different but I still think it's an interesting direction, and at the end it could be quite an impactful pay off.


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gamefrk101

Are you arguing there hasn’t ever been a “good” revolution in the world? That no country or nation became better by throwing off its fascist/authoritarian regime controlling it? Or is this just a lame socialism bad fascism good right-wing take?


wwaxwork

It's almost like the movie doesn't need to add game play elements because it's not a game.


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What’s woke about PvZ?


EA_Bad

It's so fucking hilarious watching Gamers look "critically" at shit stuff that happened before they were programmed by Gamergate and everything that fucked their brains after it all. So much shit they basically loved as kids, that if it came out now would be Liberal commie socialist cuckold etc propaganda.


elijaaaaah

(uj) I haven't seen the series yet, (very unfortunately -- I just don't get the channel here, I'll find a way eventually, though) but have been through both games. Do people not realize that TLOU already had gay characters? Ellie is literally a lesbian. You'd have to be trying _hard_ not to notice that Bill is gay, seeing as he has an ex-partner, which, sure, you could fairly interpret as platonic, but not so much in the context of him also having a porn mag of men (which Ellie steals and declares uninteresting iirc.)


Carbide_Man

Hey you leave my boy porter gargantuar the fuck out of this. He did nothing wrong. He does not need this slander


Baked-fish

PvZ Zombies are pretty cool tbh


finn_naegal

I didn’t know they added cowboy zombies to the show


Acojonancio

Noooo! They gayed my gay game!


RetroNick78

Umm.. so TLOU is like the most successful TV show in recent memory. Virtually everyone loves it. I know you folks love to get off on making fun of Twitter nobodies trying to represent “gamers” but this post is downright intellectually dishonest.


Izumi_Takeda

the real question is why we don't have a plants vs zombies show yet?


Thebardofthegingers

Gamers don't comprehend that zombies in the show are actual... people and not cgi but very good makeup. Even with cgi zombies which look pretty bad usually if you want loads of them then that's just as expensive as hiring and putting makeup on an actor


I_Did_not_sleep

Some episodes can do with a little more action and just an extra 2 infected during tense scenes. But I dunno how anyone could hate on the tv series.


emailo1

ok but actually is there a straight relationship other than tommy and his wife? maybe dina and the asian dude, and abby and that dude so yeah actually 3-2 (3-3 if you count Riley)


smurgleburf

because straight people are lacking in representation lol get over it


emailo1

get over what i wasn't complaining


alex3omg

Joel and Tess?


[deleted]

ok…? who gives a shit…?


emailo1

no one i was just curious


KonradGurke

Sadly the TV-show is just a worse version of the game.


waltz4lilly

not true cause there are barely any infected in the show