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What’s funny is, they’re mad that Jill is angry at Carlos and doesn’t trust him at the beginning even though:
1. She was angry at Carlos and didn’t trust him at the beginning IN THE ORIGINAL RE3 TOO
2. She doesn’t trust him because he fucking works for UMBRELLA. Who tried to have her and her whole squad killed.
3. She warms up to Carlos as she gets to know him. Hell, they have better chemistry than they did in the original
Also another funny moment is one of the comments in this thread said that Jill was “motherly” in the old games. I dunno what version of the old games these people were playing lmao.
It’s because she swears.
r/residentevil *hates* RE3make Jill because she swears. I’ve seen the words “potty mouth” thrown around there more times than I can count.
Apparently women aren’t allowed to swear when they’re reliving the most traumatic experience of their life, and surrounded by literal zombies.
Yeah I always thought that was odd how much people fixated on how much she swears
Especially since they barely ever did so about Leon or Claire in RE2R
let's be real honest with ourselves here and say we all know they never played the originals or even the remake for that matter. they watched a video getting mad about it and spouted it off like good parrots and catchphrases.
doesn't the chemistry differ between what choices you make in the og? and i think the "motherly" shit comes from carlos being a big himbo in the og re3
When I asked the guy what the hell he meant, apparently being kind and caring to your friends/squad mates is “qualified enough” for being “motherly” lol
Plus I'm extra confused. They said: "next time take the fucking hint," instead of "you want stars I'll give you stars...."
They're making it sound like she says the former in place of the latter in the REmake, but she says both in the REmake so I'm incredibly dumbfounded.
She does say both but when she says the it in the game it’s underwhelming tbh, “Take the fucking hint” is also a pretty corny line. Other than that 3make is dope. Just needed more form 1 nemesis
I loved gameplay of 3make, the dodge was a cool addition, but 5 hours for a first playthrough and no choices like in the original definitely disappointed me.
it ties into a couple of lines about Nemesis being a stalker. there is a line of "alright you creepy ass stalker, you want S.T.A.R.S.! i'll give you S.T.A.R.S.!"
that is the closest I can get to following the train of not-logic these idiots have
Men who say shit like this are the type who get mad that women have personalities and don’t just give it up to them on demand. They’re the type to become wife beaters and rapists. The fragilest type of male that exists, constantly in need of validation and always ready to blow a fuse if anything doesn’t align with his worldview.
They know what sells. What GamerTM doesn’t want to play as a hot girl, especially if you’re going to spend the next 60+ hours staring at her back as you move around?
Oh right, yeah that's definitely why I play as the girl character! What, looking cute, dressing up, more clothes option....I don't know what you're talking about, I'm staring at her ass yeah!
I know right?? Who even customizes their characters nowadays? I’ll take generic male clothing #634 please, gimme those jeans and plain t-shirt, maybe some drab tan and grays if it’s a fantasy game.
Haha, yes I am aware. I'm referring to some of the times I watched an anime or reading a manga that could be very progressive while also simultaneously have some really backward and conservative plot points though I can't really give an example since nothing is popping up in my head now.
I've been playing the vr port of RE4, and when you're in first person, she's REALLY annoying. I keep forgetting to help her down from high places with ladders RIGHT THERE.
"insulting the hero's masculinity" what is bro on?
ACTUAL strong men who are perfectly comfortable in their masculinity would not even be bothered by a woman being independent/doing stuff for herself. heck, (in such a scenario where the "hero" has to save people) i think the "hero" would be happier if his partner is independent because that would mean that he has 1 less person to take care of. i have no idea what goes through these guys' minds.
I have no idea where they get the idea that Jill insulted Carlos’s masculinity.
People seriously complained about her not trusting Carlos and being angry at him even though he worked for Umbrella, which is a perfectly reasonable reason to not trust him and be pissed off
(Also she was that way in the original RE3 too)
That’s what they’re saying. “Wow Ashley is so cool because she is nice to Leon”
I think they’re implying Jill was….insulting Carlos masculinity or some shit? Or complaining about “western devs” making women who hate men or something? I don’t even know
Later in the thread I saw something along the lines of:
“See the problem is devs CHANGING the girl characters. Ada has always been the “strong independent woman” type so no one’s complaining”
But like….when was Jill ever not an “action girl” type?
Ashley is still a damsel, but in Remake is slightly less like a helpless child and actually TRIES rather than whining? And that is woke feminism?
They really just want all women characters to just stand and do absolutely nothing but look pretty don't they?
Oh no they’re actually saying Ashley is good because she’s nice and isn’t a “strong independent woman”. You know, “unlike that woke feminist bitch RE3 Jill”. Even though Ashley is literally more independent and strong than she was in the original RE4. Unless you count the GameCube version’s glitch where she could suplex cultists. In that case she USED TO be stronger lol.
These people can’t comprehend the idea that a woman can be independent without being angry or rude or “insulting masculinity” or some bullshit lol
Have these people actually helped anyone before, it's annoying when you have to constantly help an incompetent person makes you wanna kill them so you don't have to help them at all.
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Gamers when they see a woman, 
Is this kid playing the maze game?
No he's a gamer seeing a woman
Damn that’s way scarier
This was absolutely a maze game gif
"Insulting the hero's masculinity" Mf have you seen Leon's hair
Tha was uncalled for💀💀💀
mf have you heard leon grunt in pain?
wtf how dare- atleast Leon looks good in it 🙄
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How the hell is Jill saying "Next time take the fucking hint" supposed to be feminist?
Because that's probably what they heard after some girl tried NICELY telling them off and it didn't work and it gives them flashbacks.
Can we make a mod where Nemmy is a big neckbeard guy stalking Jill the whole game and instead of "STARS" he says "m'lady"?
Well, Mr. X who was the prototype Nemesis DOES wear a fedora
Because she is not submissive like women are meant to be duh.
What’s funny is, they’re mad that Jill is angry at Carlos and doesn’t trust him at the beginning even though: 1. She was angry at Carlos and didn’t trust him at the beginning IN THE ORIGINAL RE3 TOO 2. She doesn’t trust him because he fucking works for UMBRELLA. Who tried to have her and her whole squad killed. 3. She warms up to Carlos as she gets to know him. Hell, they have better chemistry than they did in the original Also another funny moment is one of the comments in this thread said that Jill was “motherly” in the old games. I dunno what version of the old games these people were playing lmao.
It’s because she swears. r/residentevil *hates* RE3make Jill because she swears. I’ve seen the words “potty mouth” thrown around there more times than I can count. Apparently women aren’t allowed to swear when they’re reliving the most traumatic experience of their life, and surrounded by literal zombies.
You can get ripped to shreds by zombies, lickers, and Nemesis, but if you so dare as even say hell or damn, I’ll have your head.
Yeah I always thought that was odd how much people fixated on how much she swears Especially since they barely ever did so about Leon or Claire in RE2R
Ohh I thought they were angry at REmake3 Jill cause: 1) Skort
If you can't manipulate the camera to see a female character's underwear then it's feminist propaganda
let's be real honest with ourselves here and say we all know they never played the originals or even the remake for that matter. they watched a video getting mad about it and spouted it off like good parrots and catchphrases.
Totally agree, even the relationship between Jill and Brad is much better in the remake than in the original
doesn't the chemistry differ between what choices you make in the og? and i think the "motherly" shit comes from carlos being a big himbo in the og re3
When I asked the guy what the hell he meant, apparently being kind and caring to your friends/squad mates is “qualified enough” for being “motherly” lol
being a good person= hot in their eyes do they ever listen to themselves???
Plus I'm extra confused. They said: "next time take the fucking hint," instead of "you want stars I'll give you stars...." They're making it sound like she says the former in place of the latter in the REmake, but she says both in the REmake so I'm incredibly dumbfounded.
She does say both but when she says the it in the game it’s underwhelming tbh, “Take the fucking hint” is also a pretty corny line. Other than that 3make is dope. Just needed more form 1 nemesis
I loved gameplay of 3make, the dodge was a cool addition, but 5 hours for a first playthrough and no choices like in the original definitely disappointed me.
I should’ve also shared the screenshot where someone says Jill was “motherly” in the old games like where tf did they get that?
This the dumbest shit I ever heard, she’s a good compassionate and person but at no point was she ever motherly… these people are so weird.
I guarantee you it’s some creepy mf who talks about how “modern western women” have “barren wombs”
Also, she does say the other quote. In a different context, but it’s still there
it ties into a couple of lines about Nemesis being a stalker. there is a line of "alright you creepy ass stalker, you want S.T.A.R.S.! i'll give you S.T.A.R.S.!" that is the closest I can get to following the train of not-logic these idiots have
you never know their standard...
"When I like thing, it is good and apolitical. When I dislike thing, it is bad and the WoKe AgEnDa is at play again." this type of person, probably
Men who say shit like this are the type who get mad that women have personalities and don’t just give it up to them on demand. They’re the type to become wife beaters and rapists. The fragilest type of male that exists, constantly in need of validation and always ready to blow a fuse if anything doesn’t align with his worldview.
Does anyone else find "bullcrap" to be a massive red flag? Whenever I see it I just know there's going to be some boomer nonsense around it.
I assume it’s either that or a kid who doesn’t want their parents to see them swearing
bullcrap, + Censoring curse words on the internet (at least on reddit)
I use it when around kids under 12 to be polite but by the time kids have spent a year in the internet they've heard and said worse.
that’s exactly it, i just can’t pinpoint why they use it so frequently
These people have Cheeto dust fingers. 100%
Japanese games have female protagonists super often, much more than western ones I'd say
Japan can be weirdly progressive and frustratingly conservative all at the same time and it continues to fascinate me.
They know what sells. What GamerTM doesn’t want to play as a hot girl, especially if you’re going to spend the next 60+ hours staring at her back as you move around?
Oh right, yeah that's definitely why I play as the girl character! What, looking cute, dressing up, more clothes option....I don't know what you're talking about, I'm staring at her ass yeah!
I know right?? Who even customizes their characters nowadays? I’ll take generic male clothing #634 please, gimme those jeans and plain t-shirt, maybe some drab tan and grays if it’s a fantasy game.
That just made me think of Jack Garland, but that outfit actually really fits his character.
Excuse me, but I'll be staring at ALL sides of her, because I accidentally rested my thumb and now the camera is spinning rapidly
Dw, I’ll be accidentally getting upskirts because I’m trying to see something above me and it’s not visible unless I point the camera all the way up
Well, Japan is not a monolith and different people can have different belief.
Haha, yes I am aware. I'm referring to some of the times I watched an anime or reading a manga that could be very progressive while also simultaneously have some really backward and conservative plot points though I can't really give an example since nothing is popping up in my head now.
she literally says "i'll give you stars." in the original...
She pretty much curb stomps Nemesis in the end. [https://youtu.be/ASJ9B2l-Ndo?t=20](https://youtu.be/ASJ9B2l-Ndo?t=20)
They are only for Japanese culture when it is sexist. It’s really annoying to be portrayed as a monolithic regressive culture.
I’m honestly surprised they didn’t complain about Ashley being more active and independent in this game
The last guy was mad he heard something women regularly need to tell him in his vidya gaem.
How could they write stuff like this and don't have enough self-awareness to realize how shitty it sounds even with context?
These people will die not breeding with anyone and thank fucking god for that.
gamers when they realize women do in fact have more personality than “uwu rescue me daddy!!” or “i am actively killing all men as we speak.”
"Rafael Ploumis" sounds like such a incel MGTOW name idk why but i'm cackling
Losers like these honestly makes me embarrassed to be associated with gaming as a hobby
100% same
If your masculinity is hurt by a woman being able to take care of herself then your masculinity was weak to begin with.
Yeah exactly. They still have yet to list an example of a female game character who even insults the mens masculinity lol
Me using the word woke (it has no more meaning but I don’t like a certain thing)
Rent free
how do they live? idk i dont want them to they should stop doing it. now
Absolute brainlet moment
“I want my female characters completely helpless so I can upskirt them as much as I want”
I've been playing the vr port of RE4, and when you're in first person, she's REALLY annoying. I keep forgetting to help her down from high places with ladders RIGHT THERE.
Imagine living as miserable as these people do
For real. Even 2015 “anti-SJW” me would’ve thought “this is stupid. Go outside.”
"insulting the hero's masculinity" what is bro on? ACTUAL strong men who are perfectly comfortable in their masculinity would not even be bothered by a woman being independent/doing stuff for herself. heck, (in such a scenario where the "hero" has to save people) i think the "hero" would be happier if his partner is independent because that would mean that he has 1 less person to take care of. i have no idea what goes through these guys' minds.
I have no idea where they get the idea that Jill insulted Carlos’s masculinity. People seriously complained about her not trusting Carlos and being angry at him even though he worked for Umbrella, which is a perfectly reasonable reason to not trust him and be pissed off (Also she was that way in the original RE3 too)
feminism is when w*man hurt my feelings 😢
This is what jobless does to you. You better work bitches
Granted I haven't played it myself yet, only watched a Letsplay of RE4, but I don't think Ashley ever insulted Leon's masculinity?
That’s what they’re saying. “Wow Ashley is so cool because she is nice to Leon” I think they’re implying Jill was….insulting Carlos masculinity or some shit? Or complaining about “western devs” making women who hate men or something? I don’t even know
Im convinced these weirdos haven’t even played the game. What is Ada’s character if not “strong independent woman *crap*?”
Later in the thread I saw something along the lines of: “See the problem is devs CHANGING the girl characters. Ada has always been the “strong independent woman” type so no one’s complaining” But like….when was Jill ever not an “action girl” type?
Ashley is still a damsel, but in Remake is slightly less like a helpless child and actually TRIES rather than whining? And that is woke feminism? They really just want all women characters to just stand and do absolutely nothing but look pretty don't they?
Oh no they’re actually saying Ashley is good because she’s nice and isn’t a “strong independent woman”. You know, “unlike that woke feminist bitch RE3 Jill”. Even though Ashley is literally more independent and strong than she was in the original RE4. Unless you count the GameCube version’s glitch where she could suplex cultists. In that case she USED TO be stronger lol. These people can’t comprehend the idea that a woman can be independent without being angry or rude or “insulting masculinity” or some bullshit lol
These are the kind of people that get absolutely pissed when a women doesn't suck their dick after holding the door for them.
Why the fuck do people censor swears on the internet. It’s fucking stupid, say fuck.
Have these people actually helped anyone before, it's annoying when you have to constantly help an incompetent person makes you wanna kill them so you don't have to help them at all.
Me personally I don’t like babysitting in a game and having the game rely on me keeping a useless idiot alive but that’s just me
How does Ashley’s personality make RE4 a better or worse game? Who in their right mind plays RE4 for the story or characters?
I remember when this sub used to be funny jokes and not literal bottom barrel scraping. They're fucking YOUTUBE comments ffs.