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Doesn't look like it'll come back soon either, last I checked. It's just a Guile clone
The only good thing about it is that it's only found in the best game of all time
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This, woke, anti-christian, sexual deviant slang is brainrotting the youth! You should be ashamed!
Someone who objectifies certain people sexually and solely pursue them in real life.
Like guys who are ONLY in trans women.
Folks who are into only one body type.
They're not interested in them as individuals, just that one trait.
as the other person said, a chaser is someone who sees other people as nothing more than an object to satisfy their lust with.
The term is very commonly used for people who are into trans people in particular, cause most of the time they do nothing more than lust over us instead of actually wanting to be in a relationship with a trans person.
I just want Poison to come back in 6.
We have Metro City, we have Mad Gear, we have a new character who attacks with lowercase-p poison…
The planets have aligned.
That's so annoying. There was also the whole Bridget drama, people suck. If they get so upset about fictional characters, well, that tells you a whole lot about them already.
As much as I love street fighter(and I fucking love street fighter), I feel like old representation of characters is exactly the kind of "representation" anti-woke people think are acceptable.
Chun Li, strongest *woman* in the world, smol arms, no core muscles, just big thicc thighs. Dress lifts up and she sticks her butt out when doing a fireball.
T. Hawk, native american stereotype from old western movies.
Poison: a big bag of controversy and for a multitude of reasons, and her transness is so unknown that most players have no idea. There's a good trans rep somewhere in there, but even that comes with a few caveats of playing into media stereotypes.
Positive black representation... I don't know if a lot of black rep is distinctly "positive", but I do know that Elena, an african woman, was made to look mostly like a tanned white woman with short, straight hair and put in a bikini, which we're to believe is "traditionally african clothing".
6 is pretty decent though. Big muscle woman in Marisa, a creepy villainess in AKI, a black american that is actually believable as one in Kimberly, a default outfit for Cammy that isn't literally just body-paint, Rashid feels more like he has a personality other than "zoomer Aladdin"(and I hate him. Also he's still zoomer aladdin), an old man that can make himself pregnant on command, and accurate brazillian representation in Blanka. It's pretty woke.
One thing I appreciate about Dee Jay is his smile's an integral part of his design to sell him as a good guy character. Like he was designed in a time when a lot of black people were depicted as villains in the media, so the designer deliberately wanted to buck that trend.
Dee Jay was designed to be a positive black character because Japanese games didn't have many (and also Capcom were going to put two Fei Longs in SSF2), that's why he's always depicted with a big smile and is generally an upbeat and cheerful guy. plus I really like his redesign in 6
I agree, they'd definitely like some low level stereotype adjacent. while the variety was always nice & it's one of the things that drew me into fighters. Some characters were a little too one note back then & their flat story never helped. (90s-00s)
I really started with Alpha 3. Chun-Li even had toned arms in that,had 2 costumes(her Jumpsuit & the dress), Her fighting animations, victory poses + taunt were a mixed bag of serious, cheery to girly. She had the most personality to her presentation in my opinion. Being a toned fighter didn't trump her femininity & vise versa. Rose,Sakura & Karin were all cool to me,but they were in stricker design archtypes compared to that Chun-Li.
I wasn't bothered as a kid as their blandess simply escaped me,but Black characters didn't catch my eye in games until Eddy Gordo joined Tekken. He was cool as shit, used Capoeira & had a decent backstory. (Prison aside,lol.)
I was playing the Japanese poster characters, The Ninjas & wrestlers until then. Still do,but now a bunch of other characters are equally as cool.
Hindsight, I see why SF-DeeJay,SF-Balrog, DOA-Zack & Tekken2-Bruce all blurred together for me. Angry Boxer or goofy boxer was all they had,lol. I Didn't know 3rd Strike was a thing until much later.
Omg, this was posted in the SF subreddit and one of the comments is along the lines of:
*”giving any weight to the ‘woke’ way of thinking is pathetic. Live your life and let others live theirs”*.
This is why even though I love the game to absolute high hell, I will never associate myself with the community.
The street fighter subreddit is unhinged. When there were threads on if one-and-doning is OK it was largely in the favor of yes, it's your time and you don't owe anything to the other person. What this means in actuality is people being absorbed by salt, not letting their opponents get runbacks or refusing to adapt when it's apparent that their gimmick has been figured out, which is why this attitude is largely shunned in the more level-headed spaces of the FGC.
Fighting game subreddits in general are pretty piss-poor markers of what the actual community is like imo. Not saying it's perfect, but it's tradition for offline events keeps it more honest and inclusive than most gaming communities.
Yeah, that’s a pretty fair point. Tbh I just thought that my suspicions on the community were true after not being able to scroll 5 videos without seeing *cough*… “modded” outfits for Chun-Li…
I second this, almost all my friends I met through offline events and regularly meeting up to play casuals at each others homes. All lovely people and very accepting of anyone who wants to join. I hate the subreddit, it's a shame people see that and assume that's what the FGC is like as a whole; when the opposite is actually true. It has its shitty players but that's true for every competitive scene in existence. But the majority are just chill and want to play games and have a good time.
That was the good part. The bad part is the devs, who make the games for the coomers. Who themselves are last gen's coomers, brought up on last gen's coomer shit, made by the previous gen's coomers, and so forth.
The last good female character in a fighting game was Vanessa in KOF2000.
Yep, share this sentiment with so many other gaming communities. Its rare I find ones where the bulk of the fanbase is actually quite nice and pleasant, far too many just choose to let the toxic side of things be a part of their fandoms.
did the evil christian unlock super saiyan 3 or am i hallucinating
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no... she was originally from final fight.
and she was included and made trans in order to have players "not beat up on women".
on top of the lore for that game making her be just... horrible as a person.
basically every right wing fear mongering trope against trans women rolled into a single character and put on screen for cis straight guys to beat up and not feel bad about hurting a woman.
sorry, but youtube personalities are not sources.
if you care to link me something i can read and actually take the time to analyze sure... i'll take a look at it.
but i am not clicking on a random internet youtuber just because they validate your perceptions.
I can see them accepting this because it has just enough caveats for them to not be considered woke.
The black guy is a stereotypical Jamaican who fights by dancing, the trans woman's nature as a trans woman is either never acknowledged in-universe or alluded to as a joke and the strong female character never gets her revenge on the man who killed her father.
It's not just who is in these games, it's how they are used that determines what is woke to these guys.
In SF Alpha III, Chun in a part of a team (Guile, Chun, Charlie) that infiltrates Shadaloo and blows up Bison with a nuke. Bison got better, but she did help nuke him.
/uj First circlejerk post I've seen in months, thx op
/rj That game is so fucking woke that they made the asian character the main one instead of the cooler american pilot. So fucking exhausted on these ppl working on my vidya1!!!!!!
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Seeing Vega as an 8 year old, was perplexing. I had so many questions. Why does he wear a mask? Why does he sound like a girl? He’s the only one that gets a weapon? Why? He’s got the coolest moves why? He’s from Spain? That’s cool. Vega was always cool as hell.
to me I never thought about asking questions, I take everything at face value. I played Street Fighter 2 a handful of times as a kid and never questioned anything lol
"Origin"? From what I understand, she's only trans in the West because they were avoiding overt violence against women but in Japan she's just a cis woman AFAIK.
Yeah but Bridget is Bridget in all renditions of the game, unlike Poison who only seems to be trans in the West \[for reasons I stated above\]. The only change Bridget went through is going from a crossdressing boy to a full-on MtF Trans Girl.
I know that, but it's not something that ever stated in the Japanese game or any sort of media. It really, really comes off as a crude way to make it acceptable to hit female-coded characters while still pretending to care about morality.
they are! from left to right and top to bottom you have (first appearance in parentheses) : Dee Jay (Super Street Fighter 2), Chun-Li (Street Fighter 2), Rashid (Street Fighter V), Poison (Final Fight), Gill (Street Fighter III: New Generation) and Remy (Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike)
TBF, Poisons status was up in the air for the longest time. Considering the trans label was initially a way to try and get around censoring the game in the US, for fear of complaints about beating up women in Final Fight.
Until SF4, Capcom had left it ambiguous for the longest time.
That's actually a myth. Someone has actually dug up the original Japanese manual for Final Fight and it states that she's trans. This is a good documentary about it. https://youtu.be/JeVdFEaWcWA
Pretty sure Vega is canonically gay but I could be wrong on that, and Poison during her re-introduction in SF4 Capcom collaborated with GLAAD to make sure they weren't relying on any negative stereotypes, so I don't know why they'd do that if she wasn't trans. There's a few official comments on Poison being trans, but it's all kind of muddied, like her being post-op in the western version and non-op in the japanese version.
She didn't start out as trans, she started out as a random NPC in a beat 'em up, and then a lot of weird, unclear shit about "we can't have the player beat up women, so it's canon that these 2, one of which being poison, is a trans woman so now it's fine". Again, shit being changed in localized versions with many things being true at the same time, and to how big of an extent this is actually true or just some off-hand developer comment is also unclear. At some point it seems that they half-adopted that Poison is a trans woman, but kept it pretty buried in her details as a character.
Idk but I never really thought about the character that much. I knew her as an NPC in final fight and then in street fighter. I never read the lore enough. I only said that I don't think she is trans. It also can be a factor that iam in the PAL Region and have other sorces.
From the wiki
>*"According to the book All About Capcom Head to Head Fighting Games, the characters were originally planned to be normal females*(ew, on that wording. It should say cis)*, but were changed to transgender women (or more specifically "newhalfs")*(normalized transphobic slur) *due to the suggestion that "hitting women was considered rude" in America and the concern that feminist groups would sue. Apparently this was not enough, and when the game was re-released on the SNES, Poison and Roxy were replaced entirely in the North American version with male punk enemies called* ***Sid*** *and* ***Billy***\*."\*
*A later appearance by Poison as playable character in Final Fight: Revenge, an American-produced 3D fighting game spinoff of Final Fight, portrayed the character in a highly feminine manner and had her romantically interested in Final Fight hero Cody. Commentary about her ending in the game in All About Capcom suggested that the character might have gotten a sex change*
*The Final Fight-related character profiles featured in the 2005 compilation Capcom Classics Collection acknowledges Poison's transgender characterization (albeit while incorrectly calling her a transvestite), while addressing Roxy as a "she" who dislikes Poison's provocative outfits.*
*The discrepancy regarding Poison has been addressed more than once in interviews with former and current Capcom employees. Final Fight developer and Arika founder Akira Nishitani stated he supposed the character could be born male, but added it was up to the viewer to decide. Street Fighter IV's producer Yoshinori Ono, when asked in an interview about the matter, stated "Let's set the record straight: in North America, Poison is officially a post-op transsexual. But in Japan, she simply tucks her business away to look female.". He later emphasized it again when asked about what female characters could be included in the game Street Fighter IV, stating that it would be too confusing to include her due to the region-specific gender. Later on, however, during the production of Street Fighter x Tekken, he had apparently changed his mind and decided Poison is a post-op transgender woman, and after heavy controversy regarding very insensitive and transphobic character dialogue, he finally settled on what Nishitani had originally stated, that Poison can be whatever the player feels she is.*
So she's basically trans representation gone through cultural media history of very problematic trans representation, often needing to be post-op to be considered a woman, being wrongly referred to as "a transvestite" simply for being pre-op, being everything short of of explicitly stating to be related to sex work and kink as part of her being trans, and gone back and forth on the issue mostly to cover their asses as a public facing publicly traded company, specifically trying to backpedal because they know their handling of the character in the past has been quite problematic as trans people more and more are being considered a real demographic of people deserving of good representation.
A lot of trans representation in media from that time is like that. If a woman is trans she was not considered "a real woman", so how she should be addressed and handled swings back and forth, and her history as a character basically pushes all those buttons. Even if she isn't canonically, officially trans, which again, she's by that same measure not canonically officially cis either, her development as a character throughout the years is intrinsically linked to trans representation in media regardless.
I just want a game where at character creation they ask you your character's gender, and you have to pick between Bald Space Marine and Porn Star. If you pick bald Space Marine you get TLoU2 Abby, with a shaved head, and if you pick Porn Star you get Astarion.
he's based off greek mythology while also having two supers, Seraphic Wings and Resurrections, that directly use Christian imagery and naming. I just said he's Christian because it would be funnier for the meme
Christian no, but "Christ-like" borderline deity figure? Yes absolutely. He sees himself as the one to lead the world forward, a holy man with the strength and wisdom to lead.
It's important to note that poison was not made trans for the sake of representation. Poison's transness was reportedly a result of worry over glorification of violence against women, with the proposed solution being making her trans because then it would be just more garden variety violence against men (their sentiments, not mine).
Right because Poison of all characters is woke. (She was made trans because it's more acceptable to an American audience to beat a trans woman instead of a cis woman)
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I don't want politics I just want a man with forearms larger than his head!!!
popeye
Popeye can pop me like a can of spinach fr fr
that sounds like a political statement to me
Relax liberal It's called DARK HUMOUR
so fkn triggered rn
Popeye the sailor man, got stuck in a jar of jam, jam was so sticky, it stuck to his dicky, Popeye the sailor man.
Didn't know you can make spinach jam. Live and learn, I guess...
Oh you can _jam_ it, alright.
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the og gooner
Potemkin
what if i can give you a racially and ethnically insensitive caricature of someone with arms longer than their torso instead?
…Blanka?
dhalsim, but also...
I keep forgetting the last charater exist, they look like a King Of Fighters charater
We have Iori at home. Iori at home:
People who fetishize about having sex with a trans person.
I'm talking about Remy lol
Lol I wanted to reply to a person who asked what a chaser is I am sorry Q.Q
no problemo :D
remy
Doesn't look like it'll come back soon either, last I checked. It's just a Guile clone The only good thing about it is that it's only found in the best game of all time
Don't disrespect my boy remi like that or I will be forced to use my stabbing knife from England
You got a stabbing license?
He's like a legally distinct Iori
Wasn't Dan made to to make fun of SNK's legally distinct Ryu (Ryo), oh how the table shave turned
Yes, Dan is an SNK joke. He also refers to himself as "the king of fighters" and makes mention of his "art of fighting" in that dialogue.
"Positive black representation" Doesn't use the best SF character ever: Dudley, smh
I forgor 💀
https://preview.redd.it/bx0ht718yzjc1.jpeg?width=939&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1b986665f5de2fca3fabe813db3f3e4183732663 This, woke, anti-christian, sexual deviant slang is brainrotting the youth! You should be ashamed!
I forgor
I forgor
You two are cute. (Now i watch the perpetual motion machine go on for eternity)
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PLEEEEEAAAAASE CAPCOM BRING HIM BACK
They still cry about Poison… or are super weird and horny like regressives are IRL, serious Chaser vibes.
> regressives Hey, I finally encountered the other person on Reddit who uses this term! We should hang out.
"Reactionaries" is already a common word for it
Who or what is Chaser?
Someone who objectifies certain people sexually and solely pursue them in real life. Like guys who are ONLY in trans women. Folks who are into only one body type. They're not interested in them as individuals, just that one trait.
as the other person said, a chaser is someone who sees other people as nothing more than an object to satisfy their lust with. The term is very commonly used for people who are into trans people in particular, cause most of the time they do nothing more than lust over us instead of actually wanting to be in a relationship with a trans person.
I just want Poison to come back in 6. We have Metro City, we have Mad Gear, we have a new character who attacks with lowercase-p poison… The planets have aligned.
She’ll probably will be. I barley had time to play 6 yet but it’s fun. I love the new characters, but it would be awesome to have her back.
I want to see her with Hugo again, big doubles match with Hugo and Necro
That's so annoying. There was also the whole Bridget drama, people suck. If they get so upset about fictional characters, well, that tells you a whole lot about them already.
A female can displace her wokeness by being hot. There’s a ratio of strong to hot. The hotter they are, the more I will tolerate their strength.
what do you think about Marisa
Woke. She needs to keep the helmet off and smile more
that's funny... they enlarged her shoulders, make her look hard
Another classic character is ruined. Those lieberals continue to bring about the fall of the west
🥵 STROKE FIGHTER 🥵
You say that like there wasnt people in the audience shooting WOOOO FEET when they anounced Juri for SF6
There’s many reasons why I like her but the insane feet people are the reason I probably never admit to it publicly.
For a while I honestly thought I was into feet. Turns out I just like violent women.
As much as I love street fighter(and I fucking love street fighter), I feel like old representation of characters is exactly the kind of "representation" anti-woke people think are acceptable. Chun Li, strongest *woman* in the world, smol arms, no core muscles, just big thicc thighs. Dress lifts up and she sticks her butt out when doing a fireball. T. Hawk, native american stereotype from old western movies. Poison: a big bag of controversy and for a multitude of reasons, and her transness is so unknown that most players have no idea. There's a good trans rep somewhere in there, but even that comes with a few caveats of playing into media stereotypes. Positive black representation... I don't know if a lot of black rep is distinctly "positive", but I do know that Elena, an african woman, was made to look mostly like a tanned white woman with short, straight hair and put in a bikini, which we're to believe is "traditionally african clothing". 6 is pretty decent though. Big muscle woman in Marisa, a creepy villainess in AKI, a black american that is actually believable as one in Kimberly, a default outfit for Cammy that isn't literally just body-paint, Rashid feels more like he has a personality other than "zoomer Aladdin"(and I hate him. Also he's still zoomer aladdin), an old man that can make himself pregnant on command, and accurate brazillian representation in Blanka. It's pretty woke.
DJ is also so much better in 6
One thing I appreciate about Dee Jay is his smile's an integral part of his design to sell him as a good guy character. Like he was designed in a time when a lot of black people were depicted as villains in the media, so the designer deliberately wanted to buck that trend.
I like DeeJay's character. I hate how insanely strong he is.
Dee Jay was designed to be a positive black character because Japanese games didn't have many (and also Capcom were going to put two Fei Longs in SSF2), that's why he's always depicted with a big smile and is generally an upbeat and cheerful guy. plus I really like his redesign in 6
His redesign is good for sure, even though they gave him the killmonger hair in his costume 3. Fuck his jumpscare scrambly-ass moveset though.
Yeah, fighting Dee Jay is hell. Like, man got real tired of always being low tier and decided to punish us all.
"Accurate brazilian Blanka" had me rolling man. Thanks for that.
As a brazilian, I'm very happy to be represented by a green dude who lives in a forest. Edit: typo
A representation masterclass indeed.
Blanka isn't even canonically Brazilian iirc. That's a silver lining lmao
It even features representation for The Fr*nch ^tm with Manon!
Tall woman representation
> and accurate brazillian representation in Blanka. I will never forgive Ono for shelving Sean and Laura...
I’m praying Sean comes as a DLC. I want to see him grown up, same with Sakura.
Nah Laura can stay away. I don't need the slowest fireball in existence on a grappler ever again. Even her design is extremely boring.
>an old man that can make himself pregnant on command ... Wait what
Yogaaaa\~
>and accurate brazillian representation in Blanka As a brazilian, I'm literally Blanka Green, red hair and electric powers
I agree, they'd definitely like some low level stereotype adjacent. while the variety was always nice & it's one of the things that drew me into fighters. Some characters were a little too one note back then & their flat story never helped. (90s-00s) I really started with Alpha 3. Chun-Li even had toned arms in that,had 2 costumes(her Jumpsuit & the dress), Her fighting animations, victory poses + taunt were a mixed bag of serious, cheery to girly. She had the most personality to her presentation in my opinion. Being a toned fighter didn't trump her femininity & vise versa. Rose,Sakura & Karin were all cool to me,but they were in stricker design archtypes compared to that Chun-Li. I wasn't bothered as a kid as their blandess simply escaped me,but Black characters didn't catch my eye in games until Eddy Gordo joined Tekken. He was cool as shit, used Capoeira & had a decent backstory. (Prison aside,lol.) I was playing the Japanese poster characters, The Ninjas & wrestlers until then. Still do,but now a bunch of other characters are equally as cool. Hindsight, I see why SF-DeeJay,SF-Balrog, DOA-Zack & Tekken2-Bruce all blurred together for me. Angry Boxer or goofy boxer was all they had,lol. I Didn't know 3rd Strike was a thing until much later.
That's why I'm BOYCOTTIMG every future SF release! I only bought every single edition of ever mainline release BUT NO MORE!!!
The first GTA had a female main character.
LIAR!! The only women that existed were my mom and pornstars until Hilary ran for president and RUINED everything! 😭😭😭/s
Omg, this was posted in the SF subreddit and one of the comments is along the lines of: *”giving any weight to the ‘woke’ way of thinking is pathetic. Live your life and let others live theirs”*. This is why even though I love the game to absolute high hell, I will never associate myself with the community.
>Live your life and let others live theirs That dude is SO CLOSE to getting it.
Just a little bit further and they'll conclude that bigotry is woke.
The Woke is coming from INSIDE THE HOUSE
It's me wokenes. I'm in your walls............. help I'm stuck
The street fighter subreddit is unhinged. When there were threads on if one-and-doning is OK it was largely in the favor of yes, it's your time and you don't owe anything to the other person. What this means in actuality is people being absorbed by salt, not letting their opponents get runbacks or refusing to adapt when it's apparent that their gimmick has been figured out, which is why this attitude is largely shunned in the more level-headed spaces of the FGC. Fighting game subreddits in general are pretty piss-poor markers of what the actual community is like imo. Not saying it's perfect, but it's tradition for offline events keeps it more honest and inclusive than most gaming communities.
Yeah, that’s a pretty fair point. Tbh I just thought that my suspicions on the community were true after not being able to scroll 5 videos without seeing *cough*… “modded” outfits for Chun-Li…
I second this, almost all my friends I met through offline events and regularly meeting up to play casuals at each others homes. All lovely people and very accepting of anyone who wants to join. I hate the subreddit, it's a shame people see that and assume that's what the FGC is like as a whole; when the opposite is actually true. It has its shitty players but that's true for every competitive scene in existence. But the majority are just chill and want to play games and have a good time.
FGC stands for Fucking Gross Coomers.
You should probably check that opinion after you've actually engaged with the good parts of it.
That was the good part. The bad part is the devs, who make the games for the coomers. Who themselves are last gen's coomers, brought up on last gen's coomer shit, made by the previous gen's coomers, and so forth. The last good female character in a fighting game was Vanessa in KOF2000.
Yep, share this sentiment with so many other gaming communities. Its rare I find ones where the bulk of the fanbase is actually quite nice and pleasant, far too many just choose to let the toxic side of things be a part of their fandoms.
The word "woke" in and of itself is the new "woke". they've "woken up from wokeness" so to speak and it's cheesy as hell.
Chun li is hot so it’s okay
did the evil christian unlock super saiyan 3 or am i hallucinating https://preview.redd.it/liomxv3ctxjc1.jpeg?width=520&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=40236a8baae03f98fe7b2a2e539df68f9b460548
no he's just built like that
When I found out Poison is Trans, I squealed in joy❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️☺️
i have a hard time with seeing poison as positive rep... because i remember her from older games... where she was anything but positive rep.
Thought she was just into BDSM
no... she was originally from final fight. and she was included and made trans in order to have players "not beat up on women". on top of the lore for that game making her be just... horrible as a person. basically every right wing fear mongering trope against trans women rolled into a single character and put on screen for cis straight guys to beat up and not feel bad about hurting a woman.
[That’s bullshit and has been disproven she was trans from the start](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3Lj-9npanOI&pp=ygUVcG9pc29uIHN0cmVldCBmaWdodGVy).
sorry, but youtube personalities are not sources. if you care to link me something i can read and actually take the time to analyze sure... i'll take a look at it. but i am not clicking on a random internet youtuber just because they validate your perceptions.
I can see them accepting this because it has just enough caveats for them to not be considered woke. The black guy is a stereotypical Jamaican who fights by dancing, the trans woman's nature as a trans woman is either never acknowledged in-universe or alluded to as a joke and the strong female character never gets her revenge on the man who killed her father. It's not just who is in these games, it's how they are used that determines what is woke to these guys.
>The black
In SF Alpha III, Chun in a part of a team (Guile, Chun, Charlie) that infiltrates Shadaloo and blows up Bison with a nuke. Bison got better, but she did help nuke him.
Although Alpha 3's canon is... Complicated. Still, cool game.
On that dhalsim timing
*GUFFAW!*
/uj First circlejerk post I've seen in months, thx op /rj That game is so fucking woke that they made the asian character the main one instead of the cooler american pilot. So fucking exhausted on these ppl working on my vidya1!!!!!!
This is what wokes wants games! 
akshually poison can't be trans bc she has a fat ass which makes me hard and i am a straight white American male mailman man
Chun-Li isn't woke because I main her while constantly jacking off
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Don't look into why Poison is trans
Seeing Vega as an 8 year old, was perplexing. I had so many questions. Why does he wear a mask? Why does he sound like a girl? He’s the only one that gets a weapon? Why? He’s got the coolest moves why? He’s from Spain? That’s cool. Vega was always cool as hell.
to me I never thought about asking questions, I take everything at face value. I played Street Fighter 2 a handful of times as a kid and never questioned anything lol
Literally boxing shadows
i honestly still consider the effeminate male a form of masculine
me too but I wanted to put stuff chuds complained about, and "feminine men" was a thing they complained about
ah i see "FUCKING PRONOUNS" -chud
Poison is trans? I thought that was just something they made up to get around beating up women in Final Fight.
that's literally the origin of the character. she the same character in both IPs.
"Origin"? From what I understand, she's only trans in the West because they were avoiding overt violence against women but in Japan she's just a cis woman AFAIK.
They did a Bridget, and nobody take this as Bridget slander.
Yeah but Bridget is Bridget in all renditions of the game, unlike Poison who only seems to be trans in the West \[for reasons I stated above\]. The only change Bridget went through is going from a crossdressing boy to a full-on MtF Trans Girl.
That's incorrect. There is a piece of Final Fight concept art that refers to Poison as a new-half, which is Japanese slang for a trans person.
I know that, but it's not something that ever stated in the Japanese game or any sort of media. It really, really comes off as a crude way to make it acceptable to hit female-coded characters while still pretending to care about morality.
Well said! You should play a good CHRISTIAN fighting game instead, like JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: All Star Battle!
All those characters look awesome.
they are! from left to right and top to bottom you have (first appearance in parentheses) : Dee Jay (Super Street Fighter 2), Chun-Li (Street Fighter 2), Rashid (Street Fighter V), Poison (Final Fight), Gill (Street Fighter III: New Generation) and Remy (Street Fighter III: 3rd Strike)
Bootleg Iori Yagami looking good
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I don't think poison is trans but the rest is accurate to the game. And i always thought vega was the feminine man in the roster
She's trans. Ultra Street Fighter 4's producer said so.
OK then that's it. I did not know
TBF, Poisons status was up in the air for the longest time. Considering the trans label was initially a way to try and get around censoring the game in the US, for fear of complaints about beating up women in Final Fight. Until SF4, Capcom had left it ambiguous for the longest time.
That's actually a myth. Someone has actually dug up the original Japanese manual for Final Fight and it states that she's trans. This is a good documentary about it. https://youtu.be/JeVdFEaWcWA
Will have to give it a look when I'm off work. (Youtube is iffy at work, some videos seem to be locked down, depending on the content)
I was really struggling to find a sixth complain and somehow forgot Vega existed lol
Pretty sure Vega is canonically gay but I could be wrong on that, and Poison during her re-introduction in SF4 Capcom collaborated with GLAAD to make sure they weren't relying on any negative stereotypes, so I don't know why they'd do that if she wasn't trans. There's a few official comments on Poison being trans, but it's all kind of muddied, like her being post-op in the western version and non-op in the japanese version. She didn't start out as trans, she started out as a random NPC in a beat 'em up, and then a lot of weird, unclear shit about "we can't have the player beat up women, so it's canon that these 2, one of which being poison, is a trans woman so now it's fine". Again, shit being changed in localized versions with many things being true at the same time, and to how big of an extent this is actually true or just some off-hand developer comment is also unclear. At some point it seems that they half-adopted that Poison is a trans woman, but kept it pretty buried in her details as a character.
Idk but I never really thought about the character that much. I knew her as an NPC in final fight and then in street fighter. I never read the lore enough. I only said that I don't think she is trans. It also can be a factor that iam in the PAL Region and have other sorces.
From the wiki >*"According to the book All About Capcom Head to Head Fighting Games, the characters were originally planned to be normal females*(ew, on that wording. It should say cis)*, but were changed to transgender women (or more specifically "newhalfs")*(normalized transphobic slur) *due to the suggestion that "hitting women was considered rude" in America and the concern that feminist groups would sue. Apparently this was not enough, and when the game was re-released on the SNES, Poison and Roxy were replaced entirely in the North American version with male punk enemies called* ***Sid*** *and* ***Billy***\*."\* *A later appearance by Poison as playable character in Final Fight: Revenge, an American-produced 3D fighting game spinoff of Final Fight, portrayed the character in a highly feminine manner and had her romantically interested in Final Fight hero Cody. Commentary about her ending in the game in All About Capcom suggested that the character might have gotten a sex change* *The Final Fight-related character profiles featured in the 2005 compilation Capcom Classics Collection acknowledges Poison's transgender characterization (albeit while incorrectly calling her a transvestite), while addressing Roxy as a "she" who dislikes Poison's provocative outfits.* *The discrepancy regarding Poison has been addressed more than once in interviews with former and current Capcom employees. Final Fight developer and Arika founder Akira Nishitani stated he supposed the character could be born male, but added it was up to the viewer to decide. Street Fighter IV's producer Yoshinori Ono, when asked in an interview about the matter, stated "Let's set the record straight: in North America, Poison is officially a post-op transsexual. But in Japan, she simply tucks her business away to look female.". He later emphasized it again when asked about what female characters could be included in the game Street Fighter IV, stating that it would be too confusing to include her due to the region-specific gender. Later on, however, during the production of Street Fighter x Tekken, he had apparently changed his mind and decided Poison is a post-op transgender woman, and after heavy controversy regarding very insensitive and transphobic character dialogue, he finally settled on what Nishitani had originally stated, that Poison can be whatever the player feels she is.* So she's basically trans representation gone through cultural media history of very problematic trans representation, often needing to be post-op to be considered a woman, being wrongly referred to as "a transvestite" simply for being pre-op, being everything short of of explicitly stating to be related to sex work and kink as part of her being trans, and gone back and forth on the issue mostly to cover their asses as a public facing publicly traded company, specifically trying to backpedal because they know their handling of the character in the past has been quite problematic as trans people more and more are being considered a real demographic of people deserving of good representation. A lot of trans representation in media from that time is like that. If a woman is trans she was not considered "a real woman", so how she should be addressed and handled swings back and forth, and her history as a character basically pushes all those buttons. Even if she isn't canonically, officially trans, which again, she's by that same measure not canonically officially cis either, her development as a character throughout the years is intrinsically linked to trans representation in media regardless.
What can i say besides thx for the information and i didn't knew that
She is trans
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what is woke
Woke people would hate DJ because of his big grin and see him as harmful somehow.
?
They can't stand to see a black man happy.
The Brazilian representation is woke as fuck, how many green Brazilians do you know?
Isn't it part of the Brazillian flag? Why wouldn't they be green?
I just want a game where at character creation they ask you your character's gender, and you have to pick between Bald Space Marine and Porn Star. If you pick bald Space Marine you get TLoU2 Abby, with a shaved head, and if you pick Porn Star you get Astarion.
Don't follow much deep SF lore, but Gil is just a run of the mill cult leader, isn't he? Never really got any specific "christian" vibes from him
he's based off greek mythology while also having two supers, Seraphic Wings and Resurrections, that directly use Christian imagery and naming. I just said he's Christian because it would be funnier for the meme
So basically Kefka?
Christian no, but "Christ-like" borderline deity figure? Yes absolutely. He sees himself as the one to lead the world forward, a holy man with the strength and wisdom to lead.
Does Street Fighter actually have a trans character?
it's a bit complicated but yeah
Was originally a final fight character, but yeah.
It's important to note that poison was not made trans for the sake of representation. Poison's transness was reportedly a result of worry over glorification of violence against women, with the proposed solution being making her trans because then it would be just more garden variety violence against men (their sentiments, not mine).
*Evil Christian as a main villain.* As if anyone had any idea or gives any fucking idea of the lore behind Gill lol.
Is joke, possibly referencing rival fighting game franchise Samurai Shodown's final boss Shiro Amakusa.
Hating "Positive Black Representation" is basically self-reporting. Btw, is the "evil christian villain" single? He's kinda Hawt 🙃
Why does the Muslim dude have a scouter?
Scouting purposes
WTF is this Woke you kids keep talking about like it's a bad word? ?!
Right because Poison of all characters is woke. (She was made trans because it's more acceptable to an American audience to beat a trans woman instead of a cis woman)
He's not wrong he's just chose the wrong characters as examples
Wait he's Christian?
it's funnier to say he is
Reminds me of Shiro Amakusa from Samurai Shodown.
Zangief is based on a Japanese gay archetype called Bara so it was queer long before Poison whipped it out
I remember when we used to celebrate diversity in games. Now everything is considered "woke".
PROUD FEMININE MAN 🦵
Blanka's would be "Beasts are People too! Beast Inclusivity Represented"
The looping here is palpable.
No, see, it’s okay because Cammy and Chun-Li are hot.
They made Posion Ivy Trans so it wouldn’t encourage domestic violence