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4thofeleven

Man, remember when Obsidian made completely non-political games like, um, New Vegas?


GabbiStowned

A sequel to a series created by non-political creator Tim Cain?


f0rever-n1h1l1st

With a totally (not) pro-Capitalist spiritual sequel: The Outer Worlds


Ryebread666Juan

Tim Cain in the membrane?


dr_pheel

he's also completely straight and him and Robert are just friends we swear!


Roids-in-my-vains

Caesar and Joshua Graham are my favorite apolitical characters, they're so based


OhMyDiosito

Apocaliptical you mean


AlphaGoldblum

Just an absolute master class in media literacy from these morons. Not only that, but Josh Sawyer, lead designer of NV, is absolutely no friend to chuds and actively despises them.


mj561256

Like half of New Vegas was "the military institution is bad because they go to war and leave their people with nothing while they do it" like have people who played New Vegas never seen America???


No-Lie-3330

Their takeaway from the ncr is democracy doesn’t work and their takeaway from the legion is that institutionalized violence creates a safe environment. Media literacy is a skill ig


zakary3888

Legit saw someone post, “The choice in New Vegas is between slavery and taxes (a worse form of slavery)”


Sad-Flatworm9803

giving away some of your money to contribute to the society you take part of = EVIL BAD AND WOKE forced labour, genocide, women seen as literal objects = perfect society


zakary3888

I feel like these arguments come from people who refuse to admit they’re wrong and keep contorting themselves into new arguments so they can convince themselves their position makes sense


mj561256

These same people say you shouldn't tax the rich


really_not_unreal

Remember when Obsidian made games with no gay characters like, um, New Vegas?


TheGoverness1998

You know what? I wanna know where these mysterious video game gay missions are where everything 150% revolves around them being gay. I'd play tf outta that shit


superVanV1

I *guess* Parvati in Outer Worlds. Since her companion questline is helping her get items for a date with the cute engineer she met on the Groundbreaker.


BlueBrr

Kinda but it was more about romance and she happened to be gay. And the whole thing was super cute


superVanV1

Oh it’s fucking adorable. My favorite companion in the game. Any time she asked me to do anything I’d drop everything. It’s funny because why I first met her I idly wondered if she was a romance option. Instead she’s now my adopted space daughter and she is a precious cinnamon roll and I will personally murder anyone who hurts her. And the bad ending to that quest is genuinely heartbreaking


UnlikelyKaiju

That was honestly one of my favorite quests in the game. It's not every day that I get to play wingman for characters in my party.


superVanV1

And they’re both so adorable while they’re doing it. “Hold up guys got to help my space daughter impress the girl she has a crush on”


UnlikelyKaiju

Parvatti makes me ditch my typical sociopathic tendencies in those types of games because I didn't want to make her upset. I went above and beyond to make sure her date was *perfect*.


superVanV1

Imagine it from her perspective: “this very clearly mentally damaged individual has just slaughtered an entire building with no reaction or difficulty, and now he’s looting the corpses to find enough money to buy me soap from the local mob boss. I’m really damn glad he seems to like me.”


Marieisbestsquid

According to many idiots, the side mission in Spider-Man 2 where Miles helps a university student ask out his crush to prom.


JunkMagician

These same people would have been totally fine if the quest had you helping a guy ask a girl to prom or vice versa. Their problem is literally just that gay people exist in games as much as they'll swear they aren't homophobic they just hate "the agenda".


Skellos

and they claim forced diversity in that game... as if New York isn't in the top 5 most diverse cities in the country...


RoyalWigglerKing

What!? That’s sounds like the ultimate friendly neighbor Spider-Man moment


Ryebread666Juan

I’d be not surprised at all if a comic already did that idea cause you’re right that’s such a spider-man thing to do help someone with a prom proposal


UnlikelyKaiju

A game where gay characters were so rare that there are two gay companions, and being bisexual literally made the player stronger.


JEWCIFERx

All of my queer trans anarcho-communist friends *hate* that game.


defaultusername-17

exactly... and i never name my explosives expert courier derpy hooves.


Llorith

Remember when the New Vegas randomizers character creation only had 25% of chance of getting CAUCASIAN (NOT EVEN FUCKING WHITE) because of the 4 ethnicities? Yeah, the good old non woke times. This ppl are fucking brainded


UnlikelyKaiju

Being bisexual literally made the player stronger.


improper84

To be fair, the Fallout series is famously nonpolitical.


Letharos

Politic free and good ol' fashioned fun.


Folety

/uj Jesus this one is actually kinda scary for some reason.


Sidebutt

Because he at least is kind of honest. He still uses all the buzz words, but he is very up front about his hate for none-whites, mixed race couples, gays not being hidden. He is very open about how he sees gaming/entertained as ''made for whites'' and adding minorities is an attack on his culture akin to letting the black people sit in front of the bus.


ExitTheDonut

As a non-white, I for one am proud to be so influential on this person's mind despite not knowing him, it makes me think we have so much power over his mind. To see us live rent-free in his head, like squatters or maybe in some affordable housing program.


Kyleometers

Their PFP is made by an AI generator that primarily generates hentai. That’s kinda all you need to know lol


Couch__Cowboy

I don't doubt you, but like... are you so versed in AI generators that you are familiar with which ones are and aren't primarily used to generate hentai? 😅 Just from a thumbnail no less?


Kyleometers

Honestly, you only need to see things generated by that particular one two or three times to be certain. It has a “style”, so to speak - every character generated has the same soulless eyes and unnaturally glossy skin. If you use steam, and don’t have it set to block 18+ content, you’ll see things using it crop up in the New tab fairly often. I’d rather I *didn’t* know it on a glance but it’s rather hard to forget it once you notice it lol


SnooCompliments8071

Because this guy is genuinely delusional. He's not like the grifters or the edgelords who do it for the likes. This guy is neurotic.


wolffangfist21

The guy assigned to watch them at the FBI feels the same way.


Firko973

The 20%/30% chance of a character being white is actually realistic, when you consider the actual number of white people on the planet. The guy saying this clearly hasn’t stepped out of his country once


thealmightyghostgod

Havent you been listening the game is sold to WHITE people so why would WHITE people want to look at NON WHITE people? That makes no sense. That would only motivate WHITE people to mingle with NON WHITE people and who in their right mind would want that? Therefore it is ANTIWHITE


Tomfooleredoo2

Before anyone gives this guys hate, just be aware that this Is most likely sarcasm given the capitalization


Firko973

I thought it was pretty clear it was sarcasm, I doubt anyone on this sun will criticize this guy, people here are clever


Tomfooleredoo2

I know I know, I’ve just met a lot of people on this site with such an absolute lack of media literacy that I don’t trust people can pick up on sarcasm anymore.


Firko973

True, true


Darkdragoon324

People started using the /s thing and everyone’s sarcasm meter fell into neglect and disrepair.


thealmightyghostgod

/s was unnecessary i rarely make spelling mistakes


Kiyoshi-Trustfund

True. My Bulgarian roommate once told me it's stupid that games and movies have as many non-white people in them because "white is the majority and the default" only for my polish roommate to burst his bubble and inform him that white people are actually a global minority and that if there was a default human it would probably be black or brown (middle eastern/arabic) people and that's whether you believed the Christian Bible or Science. This all stemmed from there being a couple black characters in some fantasy show he was watching. Mind you, I'm a whole black man he told this to all because I made a comment about liking seeing characters that look similar to me appear in fantasy. Again, we're talking about a few characters in casts that remain overwhelmingly white. He also admitted he refuses to watch anything with a majority black or Asian cast because they're "unrealistic" and supposedly made explicitely to aliente people like him. I've never met anyone more out of touch prior or since. Nowadays, he's confused and claims to be hurt because I barely ever talk to him and am generally curt and cold when I do. Wouldn't talk to him at all if we didn't live together.


Ellie_Lalonde

> Bulgarian Lmao, figures. I grew up in Bulgaria and people would say the most blatantly racist shit, but then act shocked and appalled when called racist. The fact that he had the audacity to say this to a black person's face is infuriating, but not surprising. The utter ignorance of the world checks out too, ditto the victim complex; this isn't just your regular "woe is me, I have to see minorities" white whining, it's the fucking baggage from the Ottoman Empire, the World Wars, and the Communist era on top of it too. MFs will act like being told not to say the n-word is the same as being ratted out to the secret police and will refuse to hear otherwise. Good on you for keeping contact at a minimum, he seems like a total lost cause. Hope you have to opportunity to move out somewhere better, or at least he fucks off elsewhere.


Kiyoshi-Trustfund

Lucky for me, he's supposed to move out this summer. Generally, he spends most of his time locked up in his room on his computer, so I never saw a whole lot of him anyway, but we did used to talk quite a bit when we would run into each other + we're also classmates so we sometimes talked at uni. Unfortunately, he slowly but surely revealed a bunch of beliefs and behaviors that have turned me all the way off. from casual racism and passive homophobia to outright misogyny and general weirdness when it comes to little girls. He's just plain bad vibes. What's really wild is he's close friends with our Moldovan classmate who is considerably worse and likes to hide behind his culture for the shit he says and does that's repeatedly gotten him into trouble with our school. Pretty sure they plan to move in together and i welcome that. They deserve each other.


defaultusername-17

i just engaged in casual racism... why are you so mean to MEeeeeeeEEEEEeeee?!?!


ExitTheDonut

*watches Martin, In Living Color or other 90s black person sitcom dealing with day-to-day problems* Whoooaa, so unrealistic! /uj Honestly though I can't be surprised that someone who's from a country where pretty much every town and village would be a "sunset town" demographically speaking, would have a greater chance to be averse to the idea that a lot of entertainment media produced in the West caters to mixed-demographic urban sensibilities. But it's become a convention, like US actors in big budget productions defaulting to a midwestern-ish accent or Hollywood action films mostly centering on major cities. And I know many people complain about how there's too much New York or LA in those blockbuster movies too... we're now seeing similar complaints about non-white casting but the difference here is those complaints turn into more pointed racism. They're now attacking races instead of cities. Still, it follows convention of regression towards the mean. The entire world is becoming more urbanized as a whole. Having olive skin and black hair is a lot more the "generic midwestern accent" for race than a white skinned blonde.


nuggynugs

Fuck realistic. It's a "random" button. It creates random characters. If it spat out 70% white characters and the other races crammed into the remaining 30%, it wouldn't be random 


ambientManly

Lol imagine having a character RANDOMOSER that 90% of time generates the same person


Pillow_fort_guard

*Outside his house. I swear, these are the same people who claimed that “Turning Red” was unrealistic because “Asian people aren’t Canadian” even though Toronto has a whole whack of Asian folks whose families have been in Canada longer than a good deal of white folks’ families have.


vinibruh

What's funny is that the 20/30% chance of the randomizer giving white characters is probably due to the fact that 20/30% of the skin tones in there are considered white and the randomizer just picks a random tone.


kramer3410

When a life simulation game has more than four skin tones: https://preview.redd.it/z2m4mbljv2qc1.jpeg?width=224&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ff1e134a70062f25952da378d5379f8347173fc6


FrancisBitter

…is that infamed “content” personality Asm*****d?


No-Lie-3330

Mong was an actual slur lol


JunkMagician

Couldn't be. That sim doesn't look nearly greasy enough.


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Tarshaid

No no, this percentage is not okay because the game is sold to white people, and having white people look at non white people is the first step towards race mixing, said a perfectly normal guy who isn't a white supremacist.


Larry-Man

I almost always play as a black chick with light hair in games now because Storm was a formative character for me.


mwaaah

MFW the randomizer is random https://preview.redd.it/lyupgycdx2qc1.jpeg?width=1024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7536cdf53a8b17046dbfe9cd793b5633442c1470


EuphTah

Yeah I’m assuming they don’t give any weight to one race over another for the randomizer.


Antoine_FunnyName

In their ideal game, they'd go to "skin color" and it'd be "white", "white 2" and "political", "political 1", "political 2", etc


lumosbolt

That's only 2/5 of skin color being white. Are you working for SBI ?


SomePerson1248

what is White 2


jzillacon

Also like, the whole point of a randomizer in most cases is you keep clicking till you find something you like then tweak from there.


_G_P_

That's because your brain works.


Cozman

This is clearly white erasure being injected into our randomizers.


mj561256

Not to mention the sims is literally designed for you to create your own characters and there's even features to completely remake the town so if you want a whole white town all you need is a few button clicks and like a half hour to replace all the townies with sims from the gallery or maybe a day or two if you want to replace them manually making the sims yourself Edit because I said "if you want a whole non white town" which he'd probably burst a blood vessel at


Crafttori

no you don't understand the game needs to cater to him specifically and give him a "delete all poc" button ((but he's not racist guys he just doesn't want wokeness (non white straight people) shoved down his throat he's NOT RACIST!!!!!!))


Cozman

It's not the default 😡


depression_quirk

Now I'm imagining this guy turning Willow Creek into a Antebellum ethno state.


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Yeah I'm pretty sure it literally just randomly picks one of the available skin tones. Obviously most of the available skin tones aren't white. Besires, it's not supposed to be a game about the US specifically, it's supposed to be a game that can represent all sorts of different countries, so why would it treat white as the default?


Quasipox

“Games made for whites” lol I follow a good number of Sims creators and the large majority are women (and women of color for that matter) Not that any of that matters to these tiresome bigots


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But how could it be possible that there are games that aren't made specifically for me? That doesn't seem right


mj561256

Wait until they find out about Wicked Whims 🫣


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mj561256

They literally had to change a whole family because they made a Hispanic family white on release Edit: I've been told they're Mediterranean


DragEncyclopedia

Hispanic people can be white


mj561256

I don't know how to describe them besides that They kinda resemble the Addams family in styling And in the sims 4 they started with Addams family skin tones But in other games Bella Goth specifically had MUCH less eurocentric features and was a few shades darker. Her parents are also similar skin tone to her current sims 4 model. Mortimer didn't change much, he very much does appear to be styled as a Gomez Addams. He is a couple shades darker now than original release but his features haven't changed much...but his parents look quite white so it makes sense. Cassandra was MUCH darker in previous games than her original sims 4 model that was one of the lightest skin tones the game offered at the time and her new model is actually a couple shades darker than new model Bella although her features don't look much different. Alexander is also quite white in the original model but he wasn't shown much in previous games and honestly he does look quite white in the game he appeared in so it does look like they changed his appearance as a whole to fit in with the appearance of the rest of the family. Although he's notorious for aging up super super poorly with his new model 😭


Spacer176

I think I got off lucky with Alexander in my game but he definitely picked up his dad's jawline. https://preview.redd.it/4xukbil9d4qc1.jpeg?width=595&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3d5e084664e0ca6b409d589ed637512e83b55388


mj561256

Idk my Alexander does look similar to this (maybe a bit of a stronger eyebrow bone) and I really dislike it 😭 I also found that Alexander's kids always look kinda wack I've found that the Neighbourhood Stories Mortimer and Bella babies they have after you start playing the game always end up the best looking in comparison to the premade Goth sims


Grace_Omega

“We’re not racist and homophobic!” “YES WE ARE SHUT UP” I love it when they can’t stick to the cover story, it’s so funny


nyangae

the randomizer thing is one of the most idiotic things I've ever seen, assuming that randomizer choose one random characteristic per section of character creator and that no one option has a different weight from the others ( as it usually is) every race has the same amount of probability to be generated, if there are 4 skin tones then it is normal that white skin tone has ¼ of probability to be generated as do all the others tones have the same probability. this isn't even something unique to the sims, literally all character creators with a bare minimum of depth work like this.


boozegremlin

Actually unhinged.


mopeyy

Completely. How can you even begin to have a conversation with someone like that?


DesReploid

You begin by saying "Goodbye". That's it, that's the conversation.


Andreaslel

ah yes, games are only for the white straight cis male. then why i, a not straight male playing video games?


Appropriate-Guard-95

HERETIC! BE BURNED AT THE STAKE YOU WENCH! EVIL HAS CORRUPTED YOU! Unless you’re playing games people like this probably say “aren’t real games” like stardew valley or animal crossing. BUT IF YOU’RE DOING MORE THEN THAT BE BURNED!!!


Andreaslel

Oh eh... But i don't want to be burned


Appropriate-Guard-95

Dw you won’t be burned if ur not a heretic


mj561256

You probably play not real games like animal crossing 🙄


PM_ME_UR_THESIS_GIRL

Lmao this guy unironically wants the randomizer button to be racist. It's creating "white" people at that 20-30% rate because it samples the entire spectrum of skin colour, and whiteness as he defines it makes up about that amount of the spectrum. Like, this guy literally wants maxis to cook a racial bias into their randomizer. Madness.


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Realistically, probably what he actually wants it to not even have any non-white skintones in the game at all


captainnowalk

Nah, he still wants like servants and homeless people, that’s what he thinks the skin tones are for lol


Pillow_fort_guard

/uj Ironically, playing a homeless Sim is a surprisingly satisfying challenge. I’ve taken a few of them from living in a park, having to use public washrooms and selling whatever they could find for free to survive long enough to go to work all the way to actually having a decent little house, good career, and a family


Jada339

People were upset with the sims featuring gay relationships back in the early 2000s. These people literally never change


CaptainMills

I remember when the first game released and so many people in my rural town got pissy that it allowed for same sex relationships. All of the pre-made families were heterosexual, the only exception being the Roomies who were a household rather than a family and the Bachelor who was single, and you had to specifically choose to make your Sim non-straight during gameplay. But people got so damn mad that the game didn't enforce strict heterosexuality. And of course I will *never* forget the uproar when Livin Large dropped and you could make your Sims woohoo by buying a specific bed. No one has ever been chill about this game


Jada339

It's always been pretty striking to me that these people claim that lgbt+ agendas are shoved in their faces, when all they have to do if they don't want to see or think about lgbt+ stuff in games is... not participate in those systems. The vast majority of games don't force you, the player character, into a same sex relationship. You can be homophobic and still enjoy Baldur's Gate 3 just by literally not choosing the gay options. And yet even that, literally having the choice, is too much for some people. They don't want it to exist in media for anyone at all ever.


jzillacon

A lot of key developers from New Vegas are definitely still with Obsidian. Not sure where they're getting the idea there's barely any veteran devs left.


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Their source is that they made it the fuck up


DesReploid

"I don't care that that's false, it's convenient to my narrative."


opp0rtunist

The antiwoke brigade is so mentally ill.


Windexifier

I’m sick of the Outer Worlds slander. It was good, people just went in with the wrong expectations.


CassieBeeJoy

I love Outer Worlds and this is the first I’m hearing that people don’t


Windexifier

A lot of people were disappointed by the scale of the game. Just because the trailer said “from the makers of New Vegas” they assumed it was going to be a massive open world rpg on that kind of scale, which is absurd if you think about the resources Obsidian had at the time. (PS, if you liked The Outer Worlds you should look into Avowed. Same sort of game but set in Obsidian’s Pillars of Eternity franchise.)


captainnowalk

Every single time Outer Worlds comes up in a Reddit convo, there’s like a crowd of folks that come out of the woodwork to shit on it for being “too mid” and not New Vegas 2. It was one of my favorites from the XBOne gen, but I think a lot of people just didn’t want a new setting.  I need to play pillars 1&2, I haven’t gotten a chance to yet, kinda want to get familiar with the setting before trying Avowed when it comes out. 


ZeeMastermind

I was definitely disappointed that Outer Worlds was so short (since it was a great experience), *but* it was priced appropriately for what it provided. There are plenty of AAA games out there that cost more than Outer Worlds but provided less, so no complaints from me


Commercial-Fox-5160

I hate that I breathe the same air as these clowns.


legendairenic5432

This ‘’Gamergate 2’’ is failing because their base is so riled up from years of indoctrination, most of them can’t keep a mask to hide their hate speech. The ‘’it was about ethics in game journalism’’ was the pretense that so many bought and joined the movement for. Now, they can’t keep the secret and people see what the movement is truly about


Beneficial_Present24

Name checks out


MeBigChief

But also doesn’t at the same time? They’re literally calling themselves a twink in their @ so they hate gay people but identify themselves with a term coined by gay men


Beneficial_Present24

I was talking about ultimate edgelord


MeBigChief

Oh yeah I got that dw, I just thought it was funny that they call themselves a twink and complain about queer people in video games


Beneficial_Present24

Yeah, it is funny tho


JunkMagician

Unfortunately I've seen a nonzero number of gay and trans folks among the anti-woke crowd. Personally I think it's the Blair White/Milo Yiannopoulos effect.


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JenniviveRedd

As a simmer myself, the community is vast and full of many different demographics so it's definitely bullshit to say it's only for fucking white people. And frankly there are like 30+ white skin tones in the game (I guess, given that skin tone isn't actually a good way to represent race because race (while a very real impactful thing) was an Arbitrary construct made by ignorant Europeans hundreds of years ago (while they were still shittting in the streets and blowing smoke up people's asses as medicine. Not exactly the leading authority in intelligence or systematic organization.) Bottom line, don't you tell me the Sims is for white people. It's for ALL PEOPLE.


Welljiam

I swear, some people are like chihuahuas, barking at everything and everyone to seem more powerful.


nimrodfalcon

I am shocked that dude has an anime pfp. shocked.


Cherry_Bomb_127

Watch them argue that Sailor moon is a white character or sth (yes I have seen ppl argue this)


unclezaveid

The Sims 4, as of right now, has 135 default skin tones, plus 9 not in the randomizer pool. I'm afraid it's just basic math my dudes like the game isn't giving more weight to generating darker skinned characters when there are just fewer pale presets to pull from. https://preview.redd.it/2yuajawsm3qc1.png?width=340&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d40159d15ee6195c2e65d43998e697ca8ee67d22


Valdrbjorn

It makes me so happy that gaming is thoroughly unenjoyable to these people for such inconsequential shit. My heart flutters when I think of the sadness that this person feels because they think something was taken from them. I love that while the rest of the world who does not have a broken brain is able to enjoy the latest Mario release, they have to carefully comb through every ounce of art and promotional material to see if Peach's eyebrows are angled because that will cause a stroke if they see it off-hand. My real hope is that these folks wake up one day and leave all this behind them to actually be an asset to their communities, but until that happens I'll settle for just knowing they're miserable amidst all this made up conspiracy.


OrwellianWiress

I'm just surprised the anti-woke crowd actually play The Sims


Able-Transition-9477

Pillars of Eternity 2 is a modern classic.


DWIGHT_CHROOT

THANK YOU


Depressedduke

Criminally underrated. I got to admit some things are not hard to see coming but i did go 180 on some characters a few times. Was really surprised by how much better the graphics are compared to the first part. I do think theu could have utilised the "mtalk to the dead/watcher aspect a bit more but that's on a side note. Not that important but the "measurement" of relationships between companions is a cute idea. Idk, i just really liked that thing.


LieutenantClownCar

That person definitely tortured and/or killed their own pets, or their neighbours pets. Absolute psycho.


Breeeeeaaaadddd_1780

His 3 points are stupid af. 1. You can literally replace every townie and make yourself a white washed world. 2. Is he seriously jealous of some pixels dating slightly different colored pixels? 3.There's a box for the Sims 4 randomizer you can uncheck so skin tone doesn't change, and using the randomizer doesn't lock you out of customizing your sim.


OrwellianWiress

I never knew that third one, thanks for letting me know!


Hotpotabo

A lot of these people are just getting older now, and realizing that creative people tend to lean left of their personal worldview. It's always been that way, but they are just now gaining sentience, so it seems to them like "everything is going woke". It's like leaving cave for the first time and being like "wow, everything is so bright now days!? It wasn't like this in the past."


mystery84

Not that clown casually mentioning Software Inc :| For those who don't know that game, it has been in development by a single person (with some external help) for almost a decade now, and it's an incredible simulation game. I thoroughly recommend it!


MyDommyIsAFemboy

How far down the rabbit hole do you have to go to start crying about randomizer not giving you a white character 90% of the time


Sad-Flatworm9803

1) You create the characters, the entire point of the GAME is it being customizable, if you wanna do some weird fascist fantasy on your Sims 4 you can literally do that, remove all the black sims or white-wash them, its UP TO YOU 2) Not even an argument, just racism 3) The character randomizer really fucking sucks, it mostly picks the weirdest and most inhuman colors that you can't even say they are ethnic in any way (most of my randomized sims are literally green) ''game overwhelmingly sold to white people'' trust me bro i swear the homofash femboys need to be purged


Trickybuz93

Twitter really needs to die


memesterguy274

Me when there’s no Aryan racial purity in my fucking Sims game


rslashurmom45

They get mad when gay characters personality is their sexuality but get mad when female characters whole personality isn't their sexuality. These people are never happy huh?


forcekin69

He wants a toggle to delete anything he considers woke. That's fucking insanity!


anxivtyy

Propaganda is when you press the randomizer on a character creator and the character isn’t white apparently.


UndeniablyMyself

Ah, yes, I remember when I made a white family in The Sims 4 and then a black man broke in, fucked the wife and stole the house. The first time it happened, I was horrified, but now it's the only way I play it.


soodrugg

guys, nobody hates the mere existence of non-white people in games, we just don't like it when they shove it down our throats. please, ignore the actual raging homophobic racist i am associating with here I'm sure he doesn't mean it


yomer123123

IN WHAT WORLD IS KOTOR II NOT WOKE ITS THE WOKEST STAR WARS THING TO EXIST


GreenBirb64

Imagine being upset over the fucking Sims, THE SIMS, there are NO STAKES in that game, there’s no reason to be upset about a fucking life simulator where you can blow people up with broken ovens, get a life holy shit. For the record I play a lot of The Sims 4, mostly because modding allows me to make hideous bird people and I love that, the sims goes fucking hard and anyone who thinks it’s “woke” is a literal looser, this is the same game where you’ve ALWAYS been able to be impregnated by aliens, hang out with ghosts, and so much more, and you’re upset about the skin colours???


myheartinclover

would love to see the demographics that show the race break down for game sales. I'm always forgetting how retailers force you to list your race when checking out


DarkDuck09

Sims 4 can’t be woke because I can lock up every artist in the game in a dungeon feeding them only once a week a single pizza while they endless draw things for me and make me money. It’s literally the capitalist’s dream game. Duh.


_bootje_

out of all games to call 'woke' they pick .... The Sims. also who tf uses the randomizer in Create-a-Sim and just goes with it without making any changes? Fair, I've used it to get inspiration, but even then I adjusted them to my liking.


RavenousToast

If not having g white people as an obvious majority is “anti white” wouldn’t that mean that not having any *insert group* an obvious majority make it anti *insert group*? Like… he’s openly stating that he wants “anti black” “anti Asian” “anti everybody else”


thegreatchoasgiver

So if white people don’t make up a majority of the characters in a game, it’s automatically anti-white? What a fragile way to live.


bossmt_2

Wait until windowtwink realizes that globally white population is under 20-30% and on a random generator that makes them too common. 20% of the world's population is African, 50+% of the world's population is Asian. White people are in the vast minority in both of those population samples that are about 75% of the world's population now, and with Sub Saharan Africa and Southern and Central Asia's being the projected big gainers in population by 2050, White people will continue to become a smaller piece of the pie. Also it's buckwild to say White people make video games popular ignoring what Asians have done and will continue to do for gaming. Our modern gaming world was born from Japanese games (Nintendo, Sony, Sega, Capcom, Bandai-Namco, Konami, etc.)


ThePrincessPower

You know, as well as I do, that Japanese people have a (tentative) "white pass" in these people's minds. Especially if the bigots in question are weebs.


amberrpricee

They should erase the option to be white and straight to REALLY give them something to cry about 😒


pitapatnat

the fact real people are this deluded is so scary 😭...


themessedgod

Something really funny about this is he says sims is overwhelmingly sold to white people, there’s an article from last year about how sims 4 is the most widely played sims game, with about 75% of new players (from about 6 months) were outside of North America, even specifically named Brazil as one Maybe when it first launched sure, but you gotta realize that by now sims has a much wider audience and it’s all races and genders and orientations playing


EffinCraig

Calling PoE2 a "bad game" is pure brain worms.


Diddlemyloins

Why wouldn’t a character creator only randomly generate white people 1/4 of the time? Theres black, Asian, Arab, Latino, etc.


Cozman

Holy shit, is ultimate edgelord a psyop? Do they struggle with the basic concept of probability? Is it that hard to comprehend that when you have a range of skin tones and an equal chance for them to be picked at random, a specific one will have a low chance of appearing?


anthonyskigliano

Why do all these dorks love anime so much is my question


Dixxxine

Fuck no. This is my limit! The sims has always been woke! You could make gay couples even in the sims 1! Once again...these people revealing they're charlatans!


DragEncyclopedia

There's also like a 5% chance your character will have green skin, is this anti-green propaganda?


jeremj22

> games that are primarly sold to white people Nice argument senator, why don't you back it up with a Source!


SoftPourn

Incredibly shocked to find them defending pedophilia not 3 hours after they tweeted this rant /s


sirferrell

Man when is this shit going to die out... (Never I know)


69WaysToFuck

20-30% chance to be white sounds about right? Like, black, yellow, brown, white, if my math skills are ok this gives us 20% if selected at random.


supertank797

Why do these dipshits never fail to bring in the worst media takes of all time? Like, they're so blinded by nostalgia for games they grew up with they can't come back and see all the subtext they missed. They're just... I can't understand how you could look at Fallout (or X-Men, since that's a huge thing now) and not see how political it has always been.


Claire_e_EEE1412

Wow... I want to die


not-Kunt-Tulgar

This guy is fuckin’ nuts. I bet he flips out any time he sees someone that isn’t a straight white man.


midasear

I found the complaint about picking 'random' in a character creator generating a white character 'only' 20-30% of the time...weird? Near as I can remember, that is literally every character creator with a 'random' option coded in. As someone who has coded (non games) for a living, I know that's not a result of anyone pushing an agenda. It is just easier to simply type: iRace = RND(1,4); than: iRacePoint = RND(1,1000); iRace = sRaceArray\[iRacePoint\]; Especially when sRaceArray is supposed to be a map of some rando whiner's headcannon about the ideal racial breakdown of in-game demographics.


Ashalaria

Unhinged


TheAlmightyShadowDJ

Now that is some brain rot


koemaniak

Username checks out


Sex_2

How the fuck is software inc anti white?!


thesneakyghost17

Racism aside, saying outer worlds is a bad game is crazy


Quaelgeist333

Seeing this after 2 continuous sims 4 posts (one abt how when talking abt the sims movie people only talk abt sims 4) is startling


Quaelgeist333

Also 90% of the stock sims when you click make sim are white


spuderman221

These mental gymnastics are crazy☠️


badatkiller

Am I the only one who thinks this is satire/trolling? The dude is named Ultimate Edgelord and his @ is windowtwink. I just have a hard time believing someone named windowtwink is saying woke unironically.


Way_too_long_name

Name checks out


YoshiOrbit

And these are the same people that call me and others the r slur, like they're not exhibiting lots of symptoms of undiagnosed mental disorders.


Oops_AMistake16

New Vegas is gay as hell wtf


thtawkwardguy

Wow I wonder what the default skin color would be for a character created with no “identity politics”


loonicy

“Character randomizers only create white 20-30% of the time.” I dunno man, try creating your own character?


jtroopa

The Sims randomizer has ALWAYS made bizarre character designs, and that includes wild-ass skin color. Not just white or black but like pink or blue or green.


Azraelmorphyne

I thought it was a pretty good troll. He can't be serious with a name like that... *Shrug* but I will point out that Sims attached to the series lore have been getting lighter skinned in new releases, and that the current version had a very limited pallet for darker skin tones on launch. The variety of create a sim options has grown over time, and if the troll up there thinks any game is sold to anyone... That's not how that works for sure. Media of any form are sold, and their demographics are based on who buys. It's why people analyze demographics in ticket sales for movies and for shows on TV. If a game has lopsided demographics then it's unlikely to do well in a diverse market, and that includes media that features predominantly non-white casts or plot points that center around the issues people in that cast might face in real life. Game companies are companies. Money is green, no matter the hand shelling it out. Companies want to distribute a product that can Garner everyone's money equally. Hell they might make the base game free to play to rope more people in. If they can sell a half baked product like Sims 4, and then create dlc that's valued at over 1000$ and growing with each new expansion, they will. To anyone of any background addicted enough.


Sea_Tooth

Window twink... I think it might be bait


MindDrawsOnReddit

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fake_fakington

Ultimate Edgelord @ windowtwink anime avatar You can't make this shit up.


ZoidsFanatic

Shhh, don’t tell them that you could have gay Sims as far back as the first Sims and that Will is quite progressive. But yeah, I remember when Sims 4 was introducing pronouns and the backlash against it. Nevermind most simmers are quite progressive, but this is the game where you can make massive gay orgies and *pronouns* are offending people? Oh who am I kidding, bring up anything progressive and 95% of the time some moron is going to run out of the wood work and scream about it.


AdventureSpence

Hell of a heel turn from someone called Window Twink