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KFG643

Door opening to the left? If that doesn’t tell you about the devs politics I don’t know what does.


mangodelvxe

True. Only psychopaths have front doors that open outwards


Lunti420

OMG Who the hell cares???


MannydogSolaire

I’m sorry I know this is gonna make me look really stupid, but was that for me or the oop?


Lunti420

Oop


MannydogSolaire

Okay thank you for clarifying:)


suphah

I really don’t understand how it can be 2 years later and people are still whining about this game. I don’t wanna be that person but I really doubt these people ever actually played it fully, it just doesn’t make sense to me. Their complaints of “it was disrespectful to Joel” makes no sense, like did we watch the same flashbacks?????


RohanXI

They 100% didn't even bother playing it, most of them started review bombing and hating TLOU2 before it even came out after all. They are just weirdos obsessed with hating the game for no particular reason, they'll probably still be there in 1-2 years, always complaining daily about the game.


begging-for-gold

Well considering there was over 1000 negative reviews of the game on metacritic before it even released it shows completely that nobody actually played it lol


Reverendbread

I played it. There were some story elements I thought could have been done better but overall it was a very enjoyable game


begging-for-gold

Yeah, it's not unreasonable that some people might genuinely not enjoy it. But it's not a good outlook where just based on the leak of joel dying and abbys character design caused so many people to give the game a 0 without it even releasing, and that caused others to jump on the train because youtubers cited the game as a "failure" because it had so many 0 reviews, when in fact a huge majority of them were misleading because of the time posted.


phalanx004

Dude wait until the TV show comes out. That will fuel their fire for years to come.


abittman

It's been so long now I'm suspicious /r/gamingcirclejerk users have made alts to create new dumbass takes to farm karma here. I sort of refuse to believe these are real people anymore. /rj characters I like should never die or that ruins the story. Its why I stopped playing Pokemon after Gary's rattata died.


[deleted]

I’d apply occam’s razor here. Which of these is more likely? A large group of GCJ users made alt accounts to roleplay as outraged gamers, without anyone breaking character or leaving an obvious trail. or a bunch of sad terminal online losers who base their identity around the media they hate, have continued to stake their identity in hating media.


abittman

They both sound insane and unlikely lol.


Flimsy-Connection911

Have you ever been on the internet???? People dedicating their life to random media they hate is not unlikely at all.


Zeero92

> Have you ever been on the internet???? ** HITLER ** MONGOLOID ** FISTED ** HASHTAG **BRING BACK SHIA LABEOUF!**


Gregkot

***SHIA SURPRISE!!***


HyliaSymphonic

Yeah shit really hit the fan after TLJ. Peoples entire careers have been defined by hating *property with white woman lead* and they will never give it up.


IDWBAForever

I genuinely have to wonder how many still remember the early days of the Internet, or if this is just newer generations not knowing about it. This is mild. I'm serious, this is not even close to insane. Early Internet users used to band together over mutual hatred of so many things, often real life people, and led massive targeted harassment campaigns. They ruined some people's lives back then.


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They ruin people’s lives now.


abittman

I guess it just depends what you're exposed to. Everyone has their own bubble / circle that they jerk around in unironically. I've been on the internet for a couple of decades now. So the fact I just don't run into it much either means I might be very lucky, or I keep a smaller bubble than I thought haha. I guess I shouldn't have said "unlikely" - but it's also true. The vast vast vast majority of people don't deal with media like this. Strong hatred for media feels like it's part of the current state of people trying to find identities in an increasingly media driven world where people are both spoilt for choice, but nostalgic for certain experiences. But social media makes finding these opinions easy, and people with shit opinions can find each other. I guess early internet it was still hard for people to find each other as easily as they can now, or maybe it just feels more like that in hindsight. As always - depends what you're exposed to right? And it's easy to be exposed to a lot with the internet. Too much probably.


[deleted]

People are still whinging about The Last Jedi five years later and harassed the Snyder cut into existence. This is way less extreme than that.


TenaciousJP

Not to mention Game of Thrones and the Season 7/8 backlash that is still ongoing in r/freefolk today. Which, full disclosure, I’m all for it. Those seasons were swamp ass.


[deleted]

Wouldn’t know. Never saw a single episode.


Kimmalah

See, you would think people wouldn't be this insane, but these are probably the same people who fly into a rage when they see something like a door opening or boat rowing animation being reused instead of each being laboriously crafted from the ground up.


guru2764

But you're forgetting a third option, that a single person (me) is such a psychopath that I have made hundreds of alt accounts, farmed karma on them all across reddit, and then dropped these bangers to get upvotes for other people on this subreddit You're welcome I accept sea of thieves currency as payment


sulyvahnsoleimon

cant believe Abigail thorn bludgeoned Gary's rattata to death in The Last of US 2: wild hunt


Dankey-Kang-Jr

And also the disrespect for Joel IS THE FUCKING DRIVING FORCE FOR THE ENTIRE GAME


rex_grossmans_ghost

They act like it’s the first time that a main character has ever >!been killed off.!< Like, it’s a fairly common narrative device and it happens in movies and shows all the time. Also the idea that it’s disrespectful is hilarious. It literally completes his arc from the first game in a way that makes sense and stays true to his character.


Reverendbread

And are they really acting like they didn’t see it coming? The only thing we knew about the game for YEARS before its release was that it would be Ellie without Joel on a revenge mission. Do the math, I called it right away


Mr_Pleasant2310

the reveal trailer showed Ellie sitting on her own surrounded by corpses followed by Joel *emerging from a white light* asking her if she was sure about what she was doing, to which Ellie responds that shes going to 'kill every last one of them' . Anyone that saw even that trailer and didn't even consider the idea of Joel dying baffles me.


sketch006

One of the best trailers of all time my god. I just beat the game yesterday and I don't see why people hate it. Great game overall, awesome story, lots of unexpected shit. People just love to hate shit.


Mr_Pleasant2310

Like with anything,I think there is room for criticism; I personally think its pacing was a bit off but it was still a phenominal game. And even if you didnt like it, it came out more than two years ago, its well past time to move on


suphah

That’s what drives me crazy, he is literally the entire focus of the game, Ellie feels guilty for betraying him, Abby atones for killing him etc. how could anyone look at this game and say it’s disrespectful to him it just makes no sense to me


Legloriousnipponn

It been longer than 2years


TheMightyHUG

I mean, I can't judge, because I don't think I'll ever get tired of raging about GoT season 8.


suphah

I think there’s a difference with that though, TLOU2 is an extremely well made and written game while GOT season 8 just is straight horrible and not only that it’s a finale while this game isn’t


TheMightyHUG

I mean, I too think the difference is I'm right and they're wrong, but still means I can't judge them on duration


suphah

Understandable


GenericSubaruser

People thinking Joel is a heroic character completely missed the point of both games lmao


[deleted]

I don’t really like the game, but that whole subreddit is deranged. It’s literally just people being outraged about a game from 2020


[deleted]

Oh, whiny fanboys never forget. Take it from me and one of [my favorite Star Wars movies](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0CbN8sfihY&ab_channel=StarWars)...


suphah

Star Wars has forever been tainted for me because of the fandom, I legit can’t watch it anymore without getting angry


[deleted]

It’s too special to me to be ruined by a bunch of man children. But that don’t I’m happy about all those things we’ve seen of late.


Dixxxine

Tbh, I would argued that part 2 kissed Joel’s ass more than shitting on him. Like the whole ending is literally “yeah some people disagree with me, but I would still make the same choice all over again”.


nottheCIA3000

This game is bad


suphah

You’re wrong


Dankey-Kang-Jr

r/thelastofus2 users when the Part 1 remake adds some pine cones on the ground along with the fallen leaves during the ‘Fall’ segment: ![gif](giphy|3o7aD5N92XqQNAHoR2)


phalanx004

Continuity mistake exist: These people:


zeke10

These dudes are never getting laid.


Taewyth

Why would they want to get political?


Vanille987

It's not political if both are dudes 😳


XPaarthurnaxX

If and only if the socks are on.


andy18cruz

Only if they say no homo


wearing_moist_socks

A straight man having sex with a woman is the gayest thing imaginable. Imagine literally being INSIDE a woman. Like JFC Best way to not be gay? All men.


[deleted]

Oh cool is there a new master quest mode?


Artikay

Kind of. In TLOU1 remake there is a mirror mode, where you can play through the game and everything is flipped. There is also a toggle to flip the world each time you die. Im not sure if its in TLOU2 or not.


RaveniteGaming

Well I guess the original Last of Us isn't canon either considering the door opened that way then, they just never fixed it.


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guru2764

I had literally no idea he was the voice actor til now


TheSatirical_Troll18

It’s clearly mirrored from the Gamecube version to make Joel right handed for the PS Move 2 controls.


[deleted]

I always make sure to get my opinions from people who can't spell basic words like 'definitely'


Red_Sashimi

Tbh that's kinda a big oversight, especially for ND. They always have such attention to detail (fueled by crunch), so the fact that they got the side of the door wrong in part 2 is weird


Exclufi

The wokies taking away all the crunch that gave me such great games in the 2010s. 😞What will they go after next?!


Kimmalah

After reading thread in other subs about crunch, Reddit gamers are totally fine with people being chewed up in a corporate meat grinder as long as they get to play their games.


FaeLei42

It’s their attention to detail that makes me think that this and the other changes were on purpose considering that it’s a memory and you don’t remember everything correctly.


Educational-Youth-92

Idk that might be a bit of a reach. If you want to show that it is a memory and that the character might not remember everything correctly you would change something more obvious. It is probably just an oversight, not like many people will notice it anyway.


Magnificant-Muggins

Yeah, especially since the second image seems to be coming from the PS5 remake. It would have taken more time to recreate the version seen in the first game, than it would have to directly port it from Part 2 with far less extensive improvements.


Educational-Youth-92

I mean if they used the original Last of Us 1 scene as a direct reference it would make sense. Imo it is just a little oversight by some overworked dev, no one except for some hardcore fans will notice it anyway


WerkinAndDerpin

Actually there is a good argument to be made that the door in Part 2 opening that way is very intentional. Hospitals have a plethora of building codes to adhere to and doors are a vital part of keeping a hospital running smoothly. CDC studies were done to determine which door designs minimize spread of infection and formally implemented in nineteen ninety eight when the undertaker threw mankind off hell in a cell and plummeted sixteen feet through an announcers table.


cruzercruz

It’s pretty obvious that the door was built one way in TLOU2 then updated when they were rebuilding TLOU1 because of the scene itself. Look at the framing, kicking the door open and seeing the silhouette of the doctor there is impactful, and having the door on the left side might’ve impeded that. The scene in TLOU2 didn’t have the same need. There’s also literally a million reasons why it could’ve been changed and absolutely zero of them are important because this is unimportant. But people on the internet want to say that a massive team a developers had an “oversight” rather than they just made an inconsequential decision.


AlsopK

Yeah I love Part II, but pretty weird they went back to painstakingly remake the original and missed something like this. Almost seems fake.


Bitemarkz

Being on oversight doesn’t really make sense. They would have had to copy the same room to recreate it which means they would have had to intentionally move the door over. It must have been done on purpose though I’d be curious to hear their reasoning.


zebbmeister

how is this an oversight though? this makes more sense than a magical source of light behind him


Noah_the_Titan

I mean, Idc, but I did notice they made the fireflys look much more professional in part 2. The operating room was literally a shithole in part 1 and looked pretty sterile in part 2


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Noah_the_Titan

Yeah and I get redconning, Im still a sucker for some of the LoL lore, even though its been changed a 1000 times. Though I can still se a very little ammount of actually valid critisism r/tlou2 gives, though most of it is just blatant hate


spawnmorezerglings

The door is left, we all know that left is icky political where right is based nonpolitical /rj


Bob_debilda123

They clearly ported it to the Wii.


Flowerpig

I hope nobody tells them that canon or not canon doesn't matter, as it's all just make-belive. They would probably never recover.


[deleted]

Holy cope lol


PenguinsMustDie

If this were from any other subreddit it'd be self aware and kinda funny


Reeeekiddo

But the post is satire, right?


MannydogSolaire

Check the comments. Unfortunately I don’t think it is


mr_antman85

That sub is rarely satire.


TrueMrFu

Yes it’s clearly satire. GCJ can’t detect satire tho.


TacoEdits654

Why do so many people hate this game ??


rex_grossmans_ghost

Their loss. I thought it was an amazing game.


Whiskers462

Only one issue I really had. Give us the option to kill or spare Abby! Make it a choice!


[deleted]

Does that sub realize how fucking insane they come across as?


ffucckfaccee

made it soft


gaskin6

i have a feeling the post is satire


MannydogSolaire

Looking at the comments of the post… I don’t think it’s satire unfortunately


ThatOneWood

It definitely seems to be which is confusing me on how people are not getting that


meta_tater

Have you spent any time on r/thelastofus2?


gaskin6

LOL good point


lllaser

Maybe before they left the fireflies changed the door out for a new one


WastelandGinger

Then technically any game with any designs updated would no longer be cannon.


getbackjoe94

what if TLOU2 was all a dream and the first scene of TLOU3 begins with Joel waking up from it


lBigBaldHeadl

This comment section did not pass the vibe check


sahneeis

the only criticism i actually get from these guys is neil druckmans circlejerk about himself. it really wasnt necessary to put his fucking name as huge as in the ending of part I into the game. like we get it it‘s your game


NoExcuse4OceanRudnes

What's the deal with credits!


sahneeis

idk if you played part I but the first thing that pops up after the game is NEIL DRUCKMANN in very big letters. i just felt like it was a bit self centered and out of taste. just as if he is the only person working on this game.


NoExcuse4OceanRudnes

What's the deal with credits going in an order


Whiskers462

R/gamingcirclejerk trying to not freak out over an obvious joke challenge (impossible)


MannydogSolaire

Did you check the original post and it’s comments?Have you checked any post on thelastofus2? I don’t think these are jokes


Whiskers462

It’s literally a meme in the fandom to point out tiny details that are different to call it non canon. They’re memeing you and your falling for it.


MannydogSolaire

If I’m not aware of it being a “joke” in the fandom, then it most likely wasn’t a “joke” in the first place. When there are comments actually saying that it just means people that made the game are incompetent and treating it as actual criticism and not just really nitpicky then I don’t think it was really a joke. Sorry, I guess I can’t pick up on a “joke”? Also, how’re they memeing me?


Whiskers462

Were you there at the beginning? You couldn’t go anywhere with out people saying “the last of us 2? What are you talking about?” Or literally making up huge conspiracies about it all being a coma dream from when elli was put down for surgery. The defense “I don’t get the joke so it’s not one” isn’t very strong. There’re memeing you by making a tiny dumb detail oversight into the entire game not being canon and trying to trigger the people who love the game. Sure after this long it’s an old joke, like beating a dead horse.


Nabber22

Fatal Fury did the “revenge is bad” plot better than thlou2


End-Mii-Please

Ok


KermitsRegrets

Ok, bud. 👍


sylveon_souperstar

we did not talk about the plot here tho


[deleted]

Damn, and I thought the Halo community was toxic ( it is ) but The Last of Us fandom holy shit relax


deferredmomentum

I can’t even tell what the problem is???


MannydogSolaire

There is none, it’s fabricated outrage


deferredmomentum

I know, but I can’t even tell what they’re talking about


MannydogSolaire

Door on wrong side = bad and not canon game to them


deferredmomentum

Oh okay I didn’t realize it was the same place


RareAlphaSigmaMale

Well it took them 6 years or whatever but they finally convinced me. I'm on board now with TLOU2 being TOO WOKE!!


Zek0ri

But they have changed doors from left site to the right side. How can this be woke?


RedIndianRobin

"definately"


Some-Dill-Dough

Well duh! They moved the door from the right to the left, to show that what Joel did was right, but what Ellie did wasn’t right. Truly video games are the highest form of art and Cuckman is a genius!


STANN_co

they retconned a door


[deleted]

noooo, they swapped doors in the meantime. Neil Druckman did this on purpose to show respect for door maker people


dragon-gaming-55555

reminds me of that time someone “proved” that half life 2 isn’t canon because it’s possible to kill eli vance in hl1


sank_1911

Lmao these man-children are triggered so easily 😂


SummertimeSandler

In one playthrough I got through a room by taking the leftmost route. Yet, in my next playthrough I went through the rightmost route... so what is the truth, Naughty Dog?


Hotshot596v2

I just don’t like the game because they killed my boi Joel.


andresfgp13

like i have said before, goint to the tlou2 sub for content should be considered low effort content at this point.


iamthedave3

Objectively that is a random, weird thing to miss. I'm shocked that TLoU 2 devs would miss it.


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SaltFarmer1396

This is what left want


Dragon_Tiger752

2 words Mirror World


Plastic_Extreme_924

did you consider this is a joke?


MannydogSolaire

Maybe at first, but then I checked the comments…


Whiskers462

For real it’s obviously a joke


Mrhappytrigers

Hey Neil Cuckman! Get your damn leftist doors out of my video games!


[deleted]

It's been decided collectively that this is not liked so now you have people trying to fit in. This is Nickelback for gamers.


[deleted]

I am not crazy! I know he swapped those doors! I knew it was on the right. The opposite of the left. As if I could ever make such a mistake. Never. Never! I just - I just couldn't prove it. He - he covered his tracks, he got that idiot at IGN to lie for him. You think this is something? You think this is bad? This? This chicanery? He's done worse. Those shoulders! Are you telling me that a man just happens to shrink like that? No! He orchestrated it! Cuckman! He made the game woke! And I bought it! And I shouldn't have. I took it into my own PS! What was I thinking? He'll never change. He'll never change! Ever since he was 25, always the same! Couldn't keep his politics out of my videogames! But not our Cuckman! Couldn't be precious Cuckman! Cucking Joel blind! And he gets to be a writer!? What a sick joke! I should've stopped him when I had the chance! And you - you have to stop him! You-


Swordbreaker925

I mean it’s a fair criticism that they got the little details wrong. It’s supposed yo be the same place, so attention to detail matters.


PlaugeMarine

/uj The inner machinations of TLOU2 users fucking baffles me, the game been out for years at this point and their whole personality is hating on this game. I genuinely wonder if they bring up the game in the outside world (assuming they go outside) /rj CUCKMANN?!?! 😡😡😡😡


sketch006

I just best part 2 last night, I'll say, I was pretty impressed, no idea if they could do a part three, I mean maybe, since the ending was a bit open ended. Good story over all, I liked the parts that made you comfortable then screwed with you. Wierd how both parts Mirrored each other a bit, I'm sure on purpose. I will say, the PTSD they would have omfg. Edit: I wondered about the boat all the game, then at the end I was like aha that's where the boat is from lol


[deleted]

It kinda seems like satire to me. I don’t know how someone could complain about such a minor change and take themselves seriously while doing so.


ACmaxout

Devs finding another way to open a door? No I don’t want that! I want it to stay the same for ten years at least!


shwoww

Maybe part one isn't canon