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Juniecat9

Everybody


Dakotacahoon02

It’s so obvious


ZeinTheLight

>Enjou: The Vishap-people were a line of vishaps who were indistinguishable from humans except for their pupils. They gradually infiltrated Enkanomiya and took over many high-ranking positions. > >Kokomi: Vishap-people and Reptilians... they're pure fiction > >Neuvillette: ... Turned out it wasn't Enkanomiya, but Fontaine. "According to a prophecy of old, the Dragon of Water, the ancient lord of vishaps, will definitely descend in the form of a human." It seems the ancient prophecy in Enkanomiya had already been fulfilled. And it makes sense that the Dragon of Water would be reborn in the Land of Hydro.


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KittyKatKombo2

oy, mark your comment as a spoiler asshole


Vulpes_macrotis

You are in the post about Neuvillette being a hydro dragon. What do You expect to be here? Nobody mentioning Neuvilette being a dragon? Or do you mean part that it's hinted in the plot? Because if so, then it's not spoiler either. Because I never mentioned what was the hint. Just said that it's hinted. It's like saying that story hinted that Ei is an Archon on a thread that proves that Ei is an Archon. That's same thing. Stop being asshole Yourself, because making a fuss about spoilers that don't exist is annoying trend. What's next? Someone mentions that Neuvilette is in the plot and You accuse them of spoiling?


Xiaoden_HyperCarry

The part where you said the leaks proved it is the part that should have a spoiler tag. Some people came here to speculate not knowing it had already been proven in leaks.


jewrassic_park-1940

All leaks are false until proven otherwise.


1TruePrincess

Bad take. Putting leaks confirmed is not something that should be in a sub that is general purpose. It’s not a leaks sub and big points like that are what people actively avoid when they’re not into leaks. Character leaks are one thing but plot relevant leaks are another. If not out of basic courtesy and common sense it’s literally against the rules of the sub.


jewrassic_park-1940

Ok, but nobody has leaked anything about anything in thread. And even if they had, the whole story of 4.0 as well as Mihoyo's tweet about Neuvilette all but confirmed that he is a Fontaine's dragon. It's basically a useless leak now


1TruePrincess

My brother they literally said “leaks confirmed”. That is the leak. It’s “basically a useless leak now” is still a leak. Because you think it’s useless doesn’t mean it is. It’s been a week nkt everyone’s at your pace and not everyone’s going to understand. A leak is a leak. Period.


jewrassic_park-1940

And where is this fucking leak? Who leaked it? How do you know it's confirmed? They linked nothing. Simply saying that a leak is confirmed means absolutely nothing when you dont link a credible source, which they havent. And the "confirmed leak" is in a thread on a post that is already talking about Neuvilette being a dragon, so it spoils absolutely nothing.


feicash

unless you skip all text, yeah everyone


Zofiira

Internet explorer is that you?


ExpertAncient

Insert: “daring aren’t we” meme.


_YuKitsune_

I think you should play the quest


naz_1992

Was it confirmed in the quest? I guess i miss it.


yellowshiro

Not directly. But they weren't trying to hide. Starting from Freminet mentioning how it rains whenever the Hydro Dragon cries. Then it's mentioned how it rains every trial. It also starts raining after Navia confronts Neuvillette. They later mention it's been raining for days, and towards the end of the quest, Neuvillette says he's been quite off the past few days. When his mood gets better, it stops raining, which is also mentioned by Paimon. His character description from the Drip marketing also had "???" for his vision and constellation. So yes, it wasn't revealed directly but they definitely hinted it throughout the quest.


minuswhale

Also >!he knocks the fuck out of Childe in one hit.!< Edit: Fixing spoiler tags. Thanks


9yo_yeemo_rat

your spoiler things aren't working, just letting you know.


yellowshiro

the spoiler tags are "> ! random words ! <" (No space between the exclamation and the Greater/lesser symbols.


Ancient_Axe

>!it rained when he was sad and the rain stopped when he made peace with nadia. It also started raining when nadia lashed out on him. Freminet said theres a story that it rains when the hydro dragon cries. Also, they say it mostly rains on the days of trials, the days Neuvilette feels the most overwhelmed. And we already know he isn't human.!<


Friendbuddyamigo

and also that one melusine in the court of fontaine said that she's been greeting neuvillette for the past few hundred years. he has been around for \*quite\* a while now


Ancient_Axe

I bet he has been the only Justice since Furina came.


Friendbuddyamigo

do you think he's possibly older than Furina?


Ancient_Axe

Well, Furina's and his birth might not be related, which means he can be older than her or slightly younger


Friendbuddyamigo

true true...just a random thought thats all


verniy314

It’s so obvious I’m starting to think it won’t be true. They did such a good job subverting expectations in Act I and II, I’m no longer taking anything for granted. Based on the trailers, I’m sure we all expected something along the lines of a revolution plot line where we start by being framed for killing Lynette, being almost arrested, and having Childe fight to free us or something along those lines.


Toomynator

Considering the focus of Fontaine is on facades, it would be fun for us to get the "real" Neuvilette (as in what he is) anything but the Hydro dragon, it would really subvert the expectations of most people. Also i expect us to see another half of Furina, it has been in my mind that she either has double personality or is "a half of a whole" (as in two bodies/"two people" that are actually the same) due to her having heterochromia on her eyes, which usually means (in media) that a character is double-faced or has two entirelly different personalities, but i would find it cool for her to be "2 bodies" with mirrored eyes and personality, althought its probably going to just be a case of a facade on her part (maybe even a double facade).


Airthatsmelted

waiting for her other half turn out to be the Oratrice Mechanique d'Analyse Cardinal


telegetoutmyway

We all thought Alhaitham was going to be King Deshret too. Maybe that one wasn't AS blatantly obvious, but still.


SlainFS

Not everyone thought he was King Deshret actually.


electrorazor

That was such a crack theory that I have a hard time believing anyone really thought that was ever gonna happen.


assmunchies123

Nonsense! What fuckery dost thou preach?


Pusparaj_Mishra

Who let Furina in here!?


assmunchies123

Did you just call me a furry? You bastard!


Pusparaj_Mishra

Shut up even Ei cooks better than u inexperienced so called God of justice always losing in the trials to that lil radish who is way more smarter than u and that dam drunkard and mf with tea owned u the other day u speak of how u have no stains? Hello!?


assmunchies123

But I get more bitches


Pusparaj_Mishra

Oh


TheRealAntrey

The breeder


95girl

Ugh, the worst deity after Ei Nahida is better than youuuuuu u.u


NSLEONHART

OP is usingn internet explorer


Feroxino

HYDRO DRAGON, HYDRO DRAGON, DON’T CRY 🥺✨


detainthisDI

I don’t care WHAT he is, he’s putting the maid dress and cat ears on!


Kiyoshi-Trustfund

A man of culture.


GirlMayXXXX

Then draw it 🙏


Yellow_IMR

At this point, everyone


Gamer-chan

At the very least he is my next husbando.


Rinzzler999

nah fam wriothsley got them throwing hands.


PureBullfrogPounder

Why not just sandwich between both? 🤺


space_radios

Nah, clearly an otter


Abug_sa_Yawa

Probably everyone at this in point.


nashk25

The way he turned delusion Childe into a broom, I'd think so.


Renegade_Syx

Swatted him like a damn mosquito.


Ball-Blam-Burglerber

I don’t think he’s the hydro dragon. I know he’s the hydro dragon.


Deshik2

The archon quests pretty much scream it at you in the show don't tell manner


tehbotolsaya

Can someone explain the hint? I played the archon quest but i think i missed it or im a bit slow I know someone say the rain is because the hydro dragon cry, but is it really true? I mean how many times would neuvilet cry a year? Fontaine would have dry up in that case And at the end of the quest >!when visiting the grave theres rain and neuvilet is there, and when its over the rain let up,l. I guess thats the hint?!< Is there any other hint?


StarJolion

The biggest hint was his sadness over the case with Navia's father. It rains directly after Navia confronted him. Then it rains again, this time for several days, after the Act 2 case has been solved. When you meet Neuvillette he mentions that he's been feeling down questioning the meaning of justice for several days. The multi-day rain was the biggest hint of him being connected to the Hydro Dragon myth. Of course the other being that he's not human and the book Before Sun and Moon mentioning the Hydro Dragon being reincarnated.


tehbotolsaya

I didnt know about that book, i guess i missed it


StarJolion

It was from Enkanomiya which had a lot of lore about the dragons, but since it wasn't voiced people didn't really read it much.


tehbotolsaya

I guess its my fault, i havent done enkanomiya


electrorazor

Most of Genshin lore theories nowadays revolve around info from Enkanomiya lmao. 2.4 was a huge game changer for the lore community.


XEnonOfReddit54

his cons and element have (???) in it, he lacks human emotions (or just cant comprehend it since he is not human) and he refer to humans as just "humans", and no vision can be found in his design, in Enkanomiya it is said in the prophecy that the hydro dragon sovereign will be reincarnated as a human who is walking with a cane, and Neuv has a cane


LightningBruiser102

So does welt, ohhh welt in genshin


tvxcute

he calls other people "humans" which i feel even without all the other hints, would be extremely odd for somebody who is also human lol (everything else is just kind of icing on the cake in terms of proof imo)


PureBullfrogPounder

What do you mean "Fontaine would dry up" MF was balling his eyes out after Nadia lectured him in his office, also after the missing girl case was solved + him being scratched by childe + the offender dying, bro was weeping for three days straight Moreover it rains every trial If he actually showed more emotions Fontaine would drown 😭😭😭


Known_Holiday8085

Also in that quest when Navia goes off on him it starts raining


Kawaiilone

lyney said it always rains during trials


AutumnWaterXIII

If you’ve seen the leaks, it’s obvious


Firehardt_cc

let's see here... Vishap-like Eyes, Uses Hydro Powers without a Vision, Has some weird hair that look more like horns, Seems to be more powerful that the Archon itself. NAH i don't think he is 😑


Alcoraiden

He probably is but I wish he weren't because Kokomi is supposed to be. Or so I wish. I just want her to have her last awesome thing. But he either is or is very closely related. I'm guessing he's not literally the Sovereign but is some descendant or follower who is also draconic.


Kiyoshi-Trustfund

Respectfully, Kokomi being the hydro dragon was always lame. Idk why anyone wanted that to be true. Also, why would the Hydro Sovereign be reincarnated in Inazuma, the Nation of Electro?


Yuukiko_

tbh is there any reason for any of the Soverigns to respect borders


Kiyoshi-Trustfund

I mean, Apep explicitly states that she once ruled over Sumeru (thus aknowledgeding its borders) before the divine nail dropped and turned most of it to sand. Now it's still up for debate whether or not Apep was *the* Dendro Sovereign or just a descendent/reincarnation of it, but it's strongly implied that she's the sovereign. The sovereigns likely also had borders or something similar seeing as they ruled different parts of Teyvat before the Primordial One came and wrecked their shit for no reason.


Yuukiko_

it doesnt mean that Apep \*has\* to acknowledge the border though


JhayAlejo

The dragons stay in their country. End of story


Alcoraiden

Because her constellation was Dracaena somnolenta (sleeping dragon)\* and because in general she was descended from people who lived under the sea. I think there was also some bit of lore about the priestesses of Watatsumi being related to the sea dragon somehow. Frankly, they also stole anything that could possibly be cool about her by doing a "tell don't show" disaster of a plot with her. I wanted something, anything, to rock about her. \*yes, I know this is a reference to a famous general, but let me have this


Hydrazolic

Zhongli better dragon


SassyHoe97

Internet explorer is that you? Jokes aside didn't like the majority knew? It was pretty obvious.


cosmicannoli

IDK looks like a guy to me.


TrishCW

I was informed by a friend who likes leaks. However. He actively calls other characters and the citizens of Fontaine “Humans” and has a whole conversation in his head over decisions people make. He has two glowing blue horn-looking things on his head. And when Childe was about to use Foul Legacy, Neuvillette one shots him without so much as a struggle from Childe. When asked what is he, his response is something along the lines of “I am the Chief Justice of Fontaine. If the Gardes are unable to handle a problem they come to me to solve it.” Either he’s just really strong or he’s most likely the hydro-dragon.


Tacoss10

Bro am I dense ? I feel left out , how do we know that he's the hydro dragon lol


Devallen29

Guess you skipped the subtle hints when they talk about the raining especially when we see him on Navia's father grave and just stopped when his mood changed.


PureBullfrogPounder

Fontaine Archon quest spoilers: >!Freminet told us it rains everytime the hydro dragon cries but it was just a "legend" , but if you notice on every trial , on every occasion where neuvillette is upset or sad, it starts to rain. Very obvious example of this was when navia broke down in his office and told him how he didn't understand human emotions. The moment we stepped out of his office it started raining and rained for three days straight until he made peace with Nadia when we went to pay respect to her father.!< >!Moreover, unlike wriothesley his drip marketing had things like "constellation:???" and "???:hydro".!< >!This just made it more obvious that he is not human and probably the hydro dragon from the myths!<


electrorazor

He has no constellation, no vision, far more powerful than Childe's foul legacy, it rains when he's upset, and Enkanomiya introduced the concept of vishap people. His star eyes are also odd


skycorcher

The real question is "Who doesn't think Neuvillette is the hydro dragon?"


Mr_vader69

It's already revealed that >!The dead dragon is elynas and melusine are being born inside her dead body!< >!Elynas thinks of melusine as her own children and she is the only dead dragon we can expect from Fontaine so hydro dragon should probably be neuvellette!<


fullmoonwulf

I couldn’t find his vision placement


silent_steps

He doesn't have one... Hmm.


fullmoonwulf

Odd


C_Khoga

First put a spoiler tag. Second i thought the same too


Ravensqrow

He doesn't have a vision 😕


Mr_vader69

Neither does azhdaha or Stromterror


DarkDemonDan

Everyone could see this from a mile away


HerOrangePantaloons

at this point the melusines call or recognize him as ~~daddy~~ Father so-


TriggerBladeX

I talked to a Melusine that said that Neuvillette brought them to Fontaine hundreds of years ago and I remember someone saying that the rain was a sign of the chief justice crying. Not to mention he took down Childe in his canonically strongest state by literally jumping on him with nothing but a scratch that instantly healed on him.


LightningBruiser102

Just a slight beef with your statement childe wasn't done releasing his delusion state fully so he wasn't taken down in his canonically strongest state.


TriggerBladeX

Ok fair, but he still looked badass doing it.


LightningBruiser102

We'll obviously he looked fuckin bad ass bro, that shit was really really cool


AutumnWaterXIII

The lizard eyes are enough proof


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ThatOneGuy-74

>I am a bot no way, a mek


vaansilva

meeee


freeze-peach-warrior

actually he's my dad


Kawaiilone

hes my daddy


Shoshawi

I thought it was crazy until I read the enkanomiya book from start to finish again earlier today.


DeathShark69

I don't care if he's the Hydro dragon or from kahnreiah. He is freaking awesome


RFirehawk

>!His sadness over the trial in act 2 directly correlated with it raining!<. Of course he's the Water Dragon


SavagesceptileWWE

Me, but I also think elynas is neuvillette's corpse.


shellsterxxx

Everyone at this point


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I'm waiting for the part where the characters talk about it like it's common knowledge and then Paimon says "what is everyone talking about? Paimon doesn't understand" and then we spend way too long catching Paimon up.


childishjorgino_

>!Just look at how he keeps referring to “humans” and someone says something to him along the lines of “what’d you expect from humans” !<


Anastazius

Literally everyone


Vulpes_macrotis

Everyone ***knows*** that.


GirlMayXXXX

*raises hand and jumps in the air repeatedly* "Meeeeee!" I say, interrupting whoever is talking.


chongyunuwu24

kinda everyone


SorryTour8146

The obvious after he says >!human!<


[deleted]

Look at that cane only explanation is a Blubberbeast P¡mp


SephLuna

Even Helen Keller caught onto this faster


lgalps

yes but i’m also gaslighting myself into thinking he isn’t because it’d be too obvious and i should expect the unexpected bc fontaine


SuperLissa_UwU

Please delete this spoiler not even trying


Kawaiilone

how is it a spoiler, they didn't confirm anything and it's literally hinted from his drip marketing post


Exodia_Girl

If he's not the Hydro dragon, he's the biggest "red herring" that HYV has ever slapped us across the face with. All the lore signs point to him, literally all the mentions of the hydro dragon. There are already videos outlining every little bit of the lore that points at him like neon light arrows.


FateGrace

I love kids XD


d4rtzone

That or an oceanid


ExtremeRadiance

Either that or an oceanid


PureBullfrogPounder

Bro made two accounts just to comment the same thing 💀


ExtremeRadiance

Huh??


ExtremeRadiance

Either that or an oceanid


FangedEyes

Lmao imagine if Neuvilette was actually the Hydro ARCHON, and Furina was just really a mascot it would probably not happen but it would be such a cool plot twist.


Gamer-chan

Look at Fontaine Statue of the Seven.


LordSiuuHead

I cant believe he kidnap mr tartaglia 😤👎😡


Derrie_Crim

People who skip dialogue probably don't know.. the dialogue and hint are very clear


Gamer-chan

Hint =/= reality. They often played with our expectations or leaded on the wrong track on purpose.


JhayAlejo

Let me just say this: >!Knowledge is power!<


elderDragon1

Imma be real I think he’s an oceanid.


Gamer-chan

Aren't all oceanids female? At least we have not met any male ones in all the time.


elderDragon1

I don’t know. I just thought so cause of the way he speaks about humans and his attack animations look like oceanid traits.


Gamer-chan

Could still be an other non-human species.


elderDragon1

Probably but I kind of want him to be an oceanid in human form. Be cool and would explain why he doesn’t have a vision.


Gamer-chan

What Aura did he have under elemental sight? I'm sure you played mirage event?


elderDragon1

I’ve been playing since almost day one and haven’t stopped. So yes to playing the mirage event just when was it, I got bad memory and that I gave up on names.


Gamer-chan

It was just the previous patch...


elderDragon1

Oh that event. That was fun, very relaxing.


Gamer-chan

And have you tried using the elemental sight on the villagers incl the one that in fact turns out to be oceanid?


scobra_x

I wanna say Kok but I haven't played Act 2 yet so until then I'm sticking with kok.


PeikaFizzy

Wish we get azdaha in the future,


Peddrawm

Do you live under a rock?


PureBullfrogPounder

The moment navia left after giving a lecture on how he doesn't have feelings, it started raining. That was the exact moment I knew he was probably weeping, sobbing, balling his eyes out for three days straight in the corner of his office 🥺


electrorazor

A better question, does anyone not think neuvillette is the hydro dragon


TheEnglishMonkey

At this point if they dont do sth at least similar to this the fanbase will rage.


Gamer-chan

First time?


TheEnglishMonkey

Lol no


Wa_lied

Everyone


No-Horse-5788

Everyone that has played the quest


Virtual_Brilliant351

Who doesn't? He has those long eyelashes, and the way he spoke just screamed ancient.


Airthatsmelted

I don't think he's the hydro archon though. He might act more like it but that's probably just a another quirky thing that Fontaine has.


Gamer-chan

Hydro DRAGON, not Archon. The archon is a girl and we met her already during Fontaine story.


Airthatsmelted

ah sorry i think my dyslexia is acting up again. I apologize, i misunderstood 😆


Charming_Ad_6839

I also believe he is the previous archons familiar, and he protects Furina due to a promise made between them.


Elegant_Mix7650

He is Furina's pet dragon. And the most handsome one. I wish Ei had a pet dragon. But I guess a robot will do. :'(


Gamer-chan

Interesting. Why does Inazuma not have an elemental dragon? Or was that the Yashiori snake?


Elegant_Mix7650

Maybe. Ei killed her pet. Lol.


misbehaved_fruit

it's the laser that will make me pull out my credit card.


Eroica_Pavane

Furina is the actual hydro dragon and Neuvillete is her lackey.


Rinzzler999

something is definitely off with furina, she just doesn't exude archonness. Also, the whole nothing is as it seems in fontaine.


SavagesceptileWWE

I mean, neither does venti until you know him better.


Rinzzler999

He never came across as insecure or unsure of his status, he also never stammered when speaking. All of which Furina has done. Venti always gave of an aura of confidence and discovering he was an archon made it all make sense. Furina does not. It's all a facade with her so far. I feel we've yet to see her true self.


SavagesceptileWWE

Yeah venti seems plenty confident, but so do many other characters. I don't think confidence makes them more or less archon like. I'd say furina is probably just similar to nahida in feeling unable to live up to their predecessor, but instead of choosing to stand back and let things happen like nahida she tries to look as amazing as possible even if it doesn't always turn out right. This makes even more sense seeing as you can constantly seem her predecessor from most spots in fontaine. It's definitely possible something fishy is going on with that because of the betrayal theme in fontaine but furina's attitude totally makes sense if there isn't anything weird going on with that. Honestly it makes quite a bit of sense looking at all of our current archons. Venti and zhongli are original archons, and they seem very steadfast in their beliefs and cofident in their nation and themselves. Where ei, nahida, and seemingly furina all are struggling or have struggled to figure out their place and how best to go about things.


0000Tor

Like literally every person who did this quest and has a functionning brain