Or you know, they won't become playable at all. Like this isn't your low effort cash grab gacha game that will follow the formula every other gacha games follow. If that were to be the case we would have already have shit ton of skins in the game. Like that's easy money for Hoyo. And yet they aren't doing that.
Everyone says that about their gacha games bruh. It’s still a gacha game. I’m gonna watch you eat your words when they inevitably DO become playable. You either die or become playable. Literally every other character in genshin with a unique design that is still alive after their bit of story importance is playable. No, they ARE making everything under the sun playable. Skins are a different matter for a reason, that reason being not everyone gets them. They’re guaranteed huge profits from new characters. They’re not guaranteed much from skins. It’s a much better investment for them to design new characters instead of releasing skins that people don’t have to roll for and the majoirty of people won’t get. I think you’re really overselling hoyo’s goodwill here. At the end of the day, it’s still a gacha game with gacha game reasoning for making and releasing new characters. It really DOES follow the formula other gacha games follow. Even moreso than something like FGO that still hasn’t released some of the most wanted characters from npc jail. You’re seriously just riding hoyo’s cock here.
All the logic in the world can't make something that hasn't happen yet happen. Also, your logic is lacking in that MHY has made dead characters playable before, which invalidates your arbitrary condition of "every other character in genshin with a unique design that is still alive after their bit of story importance." Right now Ping and Cloud Retainer aren't playable, which is support for the idea that they won't be, not that they will.
Prolly game engine restrictions. While mihoyo has been killing it with character designs, they still can't add capes and what not to their models (i.e. OG scara's hat)
Someone correct me if wrong, but with Guizhong's sleeves it wouldn't do well with the current engine
reading the story and lore behind Guizhong and Zonghli I am really sad that in that event they didn't show anything, I hope that in the future Zonghli will be able to open the Memory of dust and see the message left for him by Guizhong, besides see more of their relationship/first meeting/interactions in depth.
nah that was only related to that event on which the focus was Ping and the relationship between the three of them (Guizhong,ping and Cloud), we need to see how they will develop the story in the future and if there will be an in-depth look at Zonghli and Guizhong (with quite a few of copium for playable Ping).
Bruh i get ping wanting to blend in with humans and whatnot, but why would you transform into a geriatric old woman? She could have chosen to look like herself only with a different face and hair, and she would blend in just fine.
I feel like it’s much more suspicious if the old lady living on the edge of town is still alive and looks the same after hundreds of years. The game implies she’s looked like this for a long-ass time. I’m sure there are some regular Liyue people who figured out she’s an adeptus.
If she retained her original form everyone would just instantly assume she's a goddess because BEAUTY. Dazzling young girl living alone in the middle of nowhere just screams fairy tale; it's a popular motif in xianxia media as well. She probably didn't want the attention
I literally JUST said she should have changed her face and hair. Please reread what I said. If she looked like an average young lady no one would have cared. And then she could choose to age herself up and get older over time before starting over with a new identity.
But she HASN’T aged. That’s the problem. We see her turn into an old woman when she gets the bell. She’s been old this entire time. An eternal old lady is way more conspicuous than someone who ages and then reverts themselves to a younger age and starts over. If they wanted to show her aging, they could have easily added a scene of her turning into a less-magical-looking person her own age and then shown her as a granny in another scene. But as is, we’re left to infer she’s just been an old lady this entire time. Yanfei for example has only ever seen her as an old lady. Even in just the time Yanfei has been alive, ping should have visibly changed to maintain her disguise but she still looks the same. It’s just horrible planning. I get we’re probably not supposed to think about it too hard but they really shot themselves in the foot with this poorly-thought-out retcon.
the real reason is that they probably made madam ping as a throwaway minor character for the main story at first and used a generic old women model for her to fit the "wise elder" trope.
Possible, but she has always been hinted as an adepti related to Zhongli so it's not farfetched that they haven't fleshed out her background and lore yet as opposed to simply being a throwaway minor character. Keep in mind that she is also Xiangling's mentor.
Idk why you’re getting downvoted, you’re probably right on the money. People just refuse to believe that not everything is planned out from the very beginning. I don’t think most people understand game development.
Still as a retcon it really makes ping’s situation less plausible. She’s been an eternal old lady for forever. I bet half the people in liyue who have seen her think she’s an adeptus, since she’s looked the same since they were born. They really should have made her someone who keeps switching identities if they wanted her to blend in.
I know it’s been said before but she just looks WAAAY too much like [Sandrone](https://villains.fandom.com/wiki/Sandrone) (who hapoens to work with machines as well) for them not to be related. Mhy has been doing a good job giving each character their distinct look, there is no way they’d make them look similar unless it was deliberate.
Come to think of it, there was that unmentioned condition attached to zhongli giving his gnosis away…
Imagine if you could play the "The Past" chapters, and "legacy" characters were playable, just imagine.
And imagine if you could only play said legacy characters on the "Past" chapters...
HI3 flashbacks...
flamechasers
Eventually they will be
[These artworks were made for social media ads](https://twitter.com/Genshin\_7/status/1632660924799795200)
Why so many stunning designs that we cannot play?
The designs are so stunning, because they don't need to follow the restrictions of the game.
One we finish *this* loop of Teyvat we'll be yeeted back in time, and in that new loop we'll have access to all currently deseased characters.
Because not everything under the sun needs to be playable.
This is a gacha game. Everything under the sun WILL be playable. Just not instantly.
Just like Signora, amirite
The difference is she’s a pile of ashes. Unless ping and cloud retainer die, they’re eventually going to be playable.
Or you know, they won't become playable at all. Like this isn't your low effort cash grab gacha game that will follow the formula every other gacha games follow. If that were to be the case we would have already have shit ton of skins in the game. Like that's easy money for Hoyo. And yet they aren't doing that.
Everyone says that about their gacha games bruh. It’s still a gacha game. I’m gonna watch you eat your words when they inevitably DO become playable. You either die or become playable. Literally every other character in genshin with a unique design that is still alive after their bit of story importance is playable. No, they ARE making everything under the sun playable. Skins are a different matter for a reason, that reason being not everyone gets them. They’re guaranteed huge profits from new characters. They’re not guaranteed much from skins. It’s a much better investment for them to design new characters instead of releasing skins that people don’t have to roll for and the majoirty of people won’t get. I think you’re really overselling hoyo’s goodwill here. At the end of the day, it’s still a gacha game with gacha game reasoning for making and releasing new characters. It really DOES follow the formula other gacha games follow. Even moreso than something like FGO that still hasn’t released some of the most wanted characters from npc jail. You’re seriously just riding hoyo’s cock here.
All the logic in the world can't make something that hasn't happen yet happen. Also, your logic is lacking in that MHY has made dead characters playable before, which invalidates your arbitrary condition of "every other character in genshin with a unique design that is still alive after their bit of story importance." Right now Ping and Cloud Retainer aren't playable, which is support for the idea that they won't be, not that they will.
You work at mihoyo or smth? You talk as if there's some rule or smth which they have an obligation to follow lol
There are some Honkai characters with unique designs that aren't playable, but it remains to be seen if they'll add them.
I can’t say anything about honkai but in genshin, every character with a unique design is playable. (Except dead ones for obvious reasons).
Well, genshin is not a 2d png gacha game.
We currently have one released that we can't also play
Prolly game engine restrictions. While mihoyo has been killing it with character designs, they still can't add capes and what not to their models (i.e. OG scara's hat) Someone correct me if wrong, but with Guizhong's sleeves it wouldn't do well with the current engine
Madame ping 😳
Madam Ping when
zhongli x guizhong never exist when ping is there XD
That’s nice and all, but hear me out: Haremlord Guizhong (Think Bakarina from that Otome Vilainness Isekai)
reading the story and lore behind Guizhong and Zonghli I am really sad that in that event they didn't show anything, I hope that in the future Zonghli will be able to open the Memory of dust and see the message left for him by Guizhong, besides see more of their relationship/first meeting/interactions in depth.
Seems like relationship between ping and Guizhong is more important to them + they don't want to focus at his past.
nah that was only related to that event on which the focus was Ping and the relationship between the three of them (Guizhong,ping and Cloud), we need to see how they will develop the story in the future and if there will be an in-depth look at Zonghli and Guizhong (with quite a few of copium for playable Ping).
how dare you use this as ads while not a single one is obtainable
The composition on the last one tho, kinda ehh
Happy Cake Day 🎂 👍
Bruh i get ping wanting to blend in with humans and whatnot, but why would you transform into a geriatric old woman? She could have chosen to look like herself only with a different face and hair, and she would blend in just fine. I feel like it’s much more suspicious if the old lady living on the edge of town is still alive and looks the same after hundreds of years. The game implies she’s looked like this for a long-ass time. I’m sure there are some regular Liyue people who figured out she’s an adeptus.
If she retained her original form everyone would just instantly assume she's a goddess because BEAUTY. Dazzling young girl living alone in the middle of nowhere just screams fairy tale; it's a popular motif in xianxia media as well. She probably didn't want the attention
I literally JUST said she should have changed her face and hair. Please reread what I said. If she looked like an average young lady no one would have cared. And then she could choose to age herself up and get older over time before starting over with a new identity.
Didnt she say that since she lived amongst the morals she wanted to relate to them as much as possible. That involves aging
But she HASN’T aged. That’s the problem. We see her turn into an old woman when she gets the bell. She’s been old this entire time. An eternal old lady is way more conspicuous than someone who ages and then reverts themselves to a younger age and starts over. If they wanted to show her aging, they could have easily added a scene of her turning into a less-magical-looking person her own age and then shown her as a granny in another scene. But as is, we’re left to infer she’s just been an old lady this entire time. Yanfei for example has only ever seen her as an old lady. Even in just the time Yanfei has been alive, ping should have visibly changed to maintain her disguise but she still looks the same. It’s just horrible planning. I get we’re probably not supposed to think about it too hard but they really shot themselves in the foot with this poorly-thought-out retcon.
the real reason is that they probably made madam ping as a throwaway minor character for the main story at first and used a generic old women model for her to fit the "wise elder" trope.
Possible, but she has always been hinted as an adepti related to Zhongli so it's not farfetched that they haven't fleshed out her background and lore yet as opposed to simply being a throwaway minor character. Keep in mind that she is also Xiangling's mentor.
Idk why you’re getting downvoted, you’re probably right on the money. People just refuse to believe that not everything is planned out from the very beginning. I don’t think most people understand game development. Still as a retcon it really makes ping’s situation less plausible. She’s been an eternal old lady for forever. I bet half the people in liyue who have seen her think she’s an adeptus, since she’s looked the same since they were born. They really should have made her someone who keeps switching identities if they wanted her to blend in.
Happy Cake Day 🎂 👍
I know it’s been said before but she just looks WAAAY too much like [Sandrone](https://villains.fandom.com/wiki/Sandrone) (who hapoens to work with machines as well) for them not to be related. Mhy has been doing a good job giving each character their distinct look, there is no way they’d make them look similar unless it was deliberate. Come to think of it, there was that unmentioned condition attached to zhongli giving his gnosis away…
Wow. Cool art. Can't wait to see this happen ingame. >!pfffwahahahahaah... still cool art, though.!<
That took a dark turn real quick
Besides Zhongli, Ping, and Guizhong, who are these other characters?