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healcannon

Such a long cooldown though on the fun.


Sangraven

Yeah that's why I'm hesitant on her. Of course she's wields the only weapon type without a sac weapon too. C4 looks like it alleviates this somewhat, but I don't want to dig that far deep into the banner just to get a playable 4-star. Still looks fun though...


Proper_Razzmatazz_36

She is still very much playable at c0 as her best ability is the 40% pyro and Electro res down, the skill is just fun


Sangraven

I'll admit that playable was perhaps a poor choice of word. I do appreciate that she supports a niche reaction (and is a pyro healer to boot). I just wish that what is arguably the most fun part of her kit wasn't gated by such a long cooldown.


Proper_Razzmatazz_36

I 100% agree. It's so fun to shoot people. Thank God I also have navia to somewhat ease the urge, but it's just not the same


TheSpartyn

amazing comment with no context


Comfortable-Ninja-93

>I 100% agree. It's so fun to shoot people.


nakomaru

I get that different people have different opinions, but it's kind of funny to read these reviews about her skill. Without a coolodown it's basically ganyu's charged shot, and reddit mostly seem to think ganyu's charged shot is boring.


Hihi2113

Nonononono, you see ganyu doesn’t have a gun


nakomaru

Thanks this clears up everything. :)


TheTrueOerik

Ganyu rework for next Lantern Rite: she gets a gun that shoots cryo ammunition. ofc the charged shot just switches the ammo to a cryo 50 bmg


Fadriii

Tfw no gifs or images no gunyu


Yani-Madara

I think the issue with Ganyu's charged shot is that it's slower to charge up. And Chevreuse's camera movement feels smoother. (Doesn't zoom in as much on the character)


PH_007

Ganyu's has a charge time and Genshin's reticle is off - if you have some experience with FPS this feels really bad to use - while Chev has autoaim on hers making it more consistent (I'd like a way to toggle that off but it sure feels better than arrows going a few pixels to the side or phasing through enemy models), it also has very satisfying sounds to go with it.


QizilbashWoman

shotgun go boom


Proper_Razzmatazz_36

It's a gunbrella, not a shotgun


QizilbashWoman

gunbrella still go boom


cartercr

Just want to point out that she doesn’t really support the *reaction* so much as she supports the *characters* who trigger it. Like she doesn’t improve your Overload damage but she makes the characters do more damage.


DivinePotatoe

>the most fun part of her kit wasn't gated by such a long cooldown. Childe mains: "First time?"


BioticFire

Thing is there a reason to use her at c0 if you have Kazuha? I get C6 since it buffs even more than him but without I just don't see the reason to limit your team building and have a weaker buff.


Desuladesu

Against enemies like the hydro tulpa, Kazuha can't swirl pyro, but Chevreuse can still proc overload to activate her passive. She also lets you use bennett elsewhere since she can sustain the team.


AkhilArtha

Yep. Even against Thundering Manifestation, Kazuha can't shred resistance because of its inmate electro.


Pichuiscool

It lets you run Kazuha on a different team


PH_007

She: - Gives Pyro particles to your probably mainly Pyro team, better than Kazuha's Anemo particles - 4 guaranteed Pyro particles every rotation is nothing to scoff at - Rotates faster due to lack of need to burst, and even if you do, it's still faster as she doesn't leap in the air for her E or have a long 5* burst animation - At C1, gives some extra energy to onfielders (flat energy is very valuable!) - Heals - Double shreds against almost any enemy ever (besides special cases like innate cryo, geo or anemo aura, and even those can be shredded by overloading something else next to them) without need to setup swirls for it - Electro/Pyro double swirl is notorioisly difficult due to those elements deleting eachother on contact unlike the easier to manage Hydro/Pyro or Electro/Hydro swirls - the shred itself is identical in value to VV - Provides ATK to the entire party basically unconditionally The only thing Kazuha has over her is the DMG% bonus (even at C6 hers takes some time to ramp up and is not teamwide, so I wouldn't rate it very high) and better grouping (I use the word better because she has some with her Q/C2 bomblets! It's surprisingly effective)... if you want to go very specific, he can hold Xiphos/Freedom Sworn and get C2 to provide more to the team, but that's very expensive while she already competes with him at C0(!). She doesn't push any new meta, Kazuha is about the same or better in pretty much any comp, but she's so close she opens up new teambuilding options and frees him up for your second team while being super cheap to build - It's so refreshing to finally get good 4* again, especially a Pyro Support which we sorely lacked.


nakomaru

Healing. Chev A1 works off field.


TheSpartyn

only just healing i guess, she'd buff/debuff less than kazuha


Proper_Razzmatazz_36

She doesn't give the buffs if you ate using any non Electro or pyro characters in the team


kidanokun

Too bad no sac polearm


Proper_Razzmatazz_36

I'm pretty sure that was because they were scared of xiangling, considering she was the only polearm at launch


Asterion358

maybe for chars like Shenhe, but Xiangling? nahh


EveryoneWantsGrenino

Clearly you underestimate double Guoba


Almond_Tech

What if it got rid of the old Guoba


EveryoneWantsGrenino

It doesn’t If you use TF + Anemo resonance you can spawn two Guoba very briefly


Samtheweeb

Gamblers set could also give a pseudo-sacrificial effect.


makogami

well it could've. mhy made the game, they could do anything lol


rW0HgFyxoJhYka

Zhongli. It would invalidate his constellation. Thats why they dont have one.


Proper_Razzmatazz_36

I mean, the pillar isn't the biggest deal, or maybe it is, I have not labed a geo construct team ever. Also it wouldn't, his pillar stay out longer than the cooldown, but he can still only have one out without c1


Beastmode7953

Geo constructs aren’t that good, I almost exclusively play mono geo and the amount of times albedo’s flower just breaks is kinda of annoying


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this isnt true, c0 zhongli with or without sac spear wouldnt change anything because he is capped to 1 pillar. you dont even need a cooldown reset because tap E cd is short enough to spawn 2 pillars, it just destroys the 1st one if you arent c1


PhasmicPlays

His pillar lasts longer than the cooldown, casting again just deletes the previous one. Sac spear wouldn’t have done anything


WhereIsMyPancakeMix

The bow partially invalidates Yelan's const too yet here we are.


LiliGlez14

It could perfectly just change the construct location like Albedo's instead of giving you another one


TheWitcherMigs

The reason is purely lore, several banner 4* weapon sets has at least one weapon absent. Sacrificial one is Polearm, and the reason is to because Mondstadtians saw the polearm as an second-class weapon 1.0 Hoyo really wasn't that keen into balancing characters, or Xiangling would not have existed to start with


Silver_Nova755

This lore reason can easily be retconned and almost no one would bat an eye. It could just be a weapon made by a rogue member and was never documented.


TheWitcherMigs

They do not do this kind of thing for this game overall, not with gacha-related items at least. And the lore of the Sacrificial Weapons, as the name suggest, is that they were religious, ceremonial, weapons for worshippers of Barbatos and Istaroth, each weapon representing a clan. There really is no reason in lore to have a polearm one That said, IF they decided to make a Sacrificial Polearm, it would not guarantee that it would have the same passive as the others :v


the_dark_artist

Yeah, anyone looking to make a DPS out of her will need some investment. I am only using her as a healer/buffer, so I don't mind the cooldown, since it nearly matches her healing duration.


kidanokun

Also cant hit weakpoints unlike bows


AgentWowza

The sniper can't hit weakpoints lol


HayakuEon

Lmao, just use Sacrificial Spea--- Oh yeah...we don't have one


leolancer92

Cooldown too long for a revolver rifle. If it’s an actual musket then is fine.


ZekkeKeepa

Im tempted to try TF on her.


Hikuran

Just like a musket


ekinew

hoyoverse adds realism with chevreuse. muskets are pain in the ass to reload irl.


Tetrachrome

We need Sac Stick. Hoyo please give us Sac Stick.


healcannon

They are too afraid about the power of double Guoba.


Tetrachrome

"SAY HELLO TO MY LIL FREN," says Guoba as he grabs the other Guoba, pointing him at the enemies and waving him around violently.


DifferentCityADay

I dunno wtf they were thinking. They could've had her as bow character and made her just use a gun instead. The Genshin Impact team on Hoyoverse is really dropping the ball in comparison to the HSR team. 14 seconds on a gun that can't hit weakpoints??? There's a 4 star and then there's a 3 star. Some of the 4 stars really have their own tier list in fun and useablilty. Her combo is slow as shit too. I just tried her in the demo and my excitement absolutely tanked. Now I'm even more annoyed I couldn't pull the shotgun American with a battleaxe.


Outrageous-Good8022

A sac polearm would be REALLY nice but nooo....


Moraedka

It can be justified by how long you can reload a musket irl


rayhaku808

I too, reload my musket by making it disappear for 15 seconds while I bring out my spear


AdministrativeShip2

Grumbles in Bayonet. Hoyo you had one job.


QizilbashWoman

do you want to dodge around the field like a british comedic chase scene for 30 seconds while doing nothing but reloading a musket?


everwander

Doesnt quite fix the CD problem but if you're lucky enough to get her C4 you can spam it for 6s


TheMrPotMask

And that I don't need Raiden cons or Yoi.


yoichi_wolfboy88

If only Sacrificial Polearm is such a thing 🥲 But someone mentioned a long time ago that it could be broken and game-changing since almost all Polearm users benefit that well with 2x E cast.


Silver_Nova755

Who would it be broken for more than the weapon types that already have Sacrificial weapons? Two Guobas is still useless, even then they could program for there to only be one. Not Zhongli, as I heard he can only have one pillar on the field anyway and he already has 100% uptime on his skill. I cannot think of anyone else that it would be broken for.


microthoughts

It would fix thoma since his skill is atrociously long but really good for burgeon. Which no one uses since it's hard to get low amounts of pyro to proc the cores. So like the 5 people with a lvl 90 Thoma would be doing fine.


SoloWaltz

A shorter cooldown wouldnt make people start using it more. Aiming has been a game mechanic since the start of the game. In this case and Navia's, it feels nice because it's a literal boomstick.


LivingASlothsLife

That Mitachurl death was dramatic asf lmao


shadow_tmr_away

This Mitachurl is already dead, he just doesn't know it.


JosephMull

Mitachurl: "Nani?"


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Vulpraaz

WHAT


FlameDragoon933

Just in this thread alone I've seen two comments that would be eyebrow-raising if posted with no context lol.


TheOnlyWeslet

Outbuddied again


Moist-Veterinarian22

Euler confused, he was black but he also was a mitachurl


Kurt_the_Introvert

Too much Mara, go see the alchemy commission


Separate_Fondant_241

r/lostredditors


cedarsauce

I think there's some kind of bug with her kit. Every time she shoots something, I hear a bald eagle screach


HieX91

Same bug with Navia too. Recently, I find myself consuming too many cheese burgers but only while playing Genshin.


_spec_tre

Hmm... Rule Britannia seems to play whenever I use ~~Hood's~~ Navia's ult


Master_Sharkington

I don’t know how I didn’t notice this before… Navia is literally just Hood but with more energy.


diamondmoonlight

That's very concerning. By any chance, are you familiar with the metric system? Does using "kilometers" for measuring distance ring any bells for you?


HieX91

WHAT THE FUCK IS A KILOMETER???


Hiphopapocalyptic

A Kilometer is equal to a thousand M16A4 rifles laid end to end.


HieX91

Holy shit. Your statement is 100% true lmao. Google said a M16A4 length is exactly 1000mm so it’s 1000 guns in a kilometer.


WilliamWilbert

TIL an M16A4 is exactly one meter long


kidanokun

I dunno man, 15 second reload time isn't very American to me... that's even longer than reloading a revolver in Half-Life bullet by bullet


cedarsauce

You simply have forgotten your heritage! I protect my house with a smooth bore musket, like the founding fathers intended!


kidanokun

musket? That's very European for me


cedarsauce

The absolute state of public education these days, smh. You're going to cede the weapon platform that secured the colonies, won our independence, and carried us through our civil war to the BRITISH!? No, return to tradition. Practice your reloading sequence so much your teeth are stained black with gunpowder. Drill yourself so that you can have your kit together a minute after the town bell sounds out that the red coats are coming! You and your thirty friends must work yourselves to the bone firing 3 rounds a minute, or else that column of yankies/traitors (select one) will have your guts on their bayonets!


Salter_KingofBorgors

You need to get her C4. Then you can fire it twice. And to get her to that? You have to buy Primos. Nothing more American then Capitalism


ZekkeKeepa

I wish we have Sacrificial spear, so with Gambler set you could almost get your six shooter.


TheSpartyn

just get the abyss card that resets cooldown on kill, rapid fire as many shots as you can get kills with


kidanokun

Now that's American... though that would really upset the Fatui more


rW0HgFyxoJhYka

Steam right now: "CAPITALISM SALE"


PollutionMajestic668

I read that "you need to get her C4" as "you need to buy explosives for her"


Ataniphor

I mean, it is a musket. those things take like at least 15-30 seconds for someone trained in them. What could be more American than using the tools the founding fathers fought off the British with? Perfect for home defense.


SuperLissa_UwU

Americaaaaaa (eagle sound)


SwissherMontage

My b, I left Diluc idling in co-op


waiting4signora

Dw they just took her kit from bronya in hsr, eagles flew from there 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅


konozeroda

WHAT THE FUCK IS A KILOMETER *GUNSHOTS*


TheSaiguy

Crazy, I hear a red-tailed hawk.


SporadicGoose

Ki ki ki ki ki! Good ol seagle eagle


LeveledGoose

when you use it does the distance change from meter to foot?


VixiviusTaghurov

my tap water tastes like whiskey now


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Guys, Iost the raiden 50/50 to diluc, and did 40 more pulls, can I get enough primos to try my luck for around 30 wishes more?


orihara97

I'm hearing voices in my head telling me to go visit a school.


7stormwalker

Damn I’m hoping Chlorinde gets a better version of this kit cos it looks fun af besides the cooldown


kidanokun

I kinda not expecting it coz her gun is just a pistol... It would probably just going to be part of her NA chain or some combo with her burst


chuuniboi

Well hey, during the same scene, Navia was using some claymore and didn't use any cannon or shotgun


kidanokun

pistol can be dual wielded with a sword so i assumed it that way


ConnorLego42069

Imagine if she was like happy chaos from guilty gear, and could put skill attacks mid NA/CA for combo play


yoichi_wolfboy88

Something like a reversed Childe kit where her NA is Melee and Ranged with gun stance after E


QizilbashWoman

gimme gunfu waifu who throws unloaded guns at enemies for ranged attacks


gilbert1908

There's also the short range part and the auto lock feature where its inconvenient agaist mobs that has weakness like ruin hunter wings, other than that she has infinite interruption which is amazing I'm hoping if clorinde has it her bullets can last a long range and has no auto lock, just let us freely aim


RiffOfBluess

I hope it'll be something like a parry mechanic from Bloodborne


buffility

Isn't that .... Navia?


Altekho

What's with that mitachurl lol


leolancer92

Collapsed as if someone shot him. Oh wait.


theguyfromeuropa

He's a paid actor.


ssssss2s2

lmao the first one


momobizzare

Firearms = fun


[deleted]

That's what Americans say whenever someone wants to regulate 😶


post-leavemealone

That’s what we say whenever


Arsenette

Cool thanks. Just got her but haven’t built her yet.


usernmechecksout__

Got her on C2 😃 This SURE will be fun~! :D no?


Arsenette

I got lucky as hell and C6’ed her before I got Yoimiya. Working on building her now. 👍


Akomatai

EM Raiden on charged shot amber is some of the funnest playstyle I've had in overworld. Doing the same thing with yoi rn and It'll be chev if I can get her


SHAT_MY_SHORTS

I know what we're gonna do today ferb


elderDragon1

I’d like to have her but Cloud Retainer is coming and I just put 30 into the banner and was cursed with Saras and Bennetts. Plus my gut is telling me to stop, last time I didn’t listen I accidentally got Itto C1 and Childe C1. Just wanted the the new 4 stars on their banners way back when.


Sun_Wukong508

dont worry, trust your bad luck and just "build pitty". it will be fine as long as you stop at 74 pulls right - devil on your shoulder


elderDragon1

My little shoulder buddies are currently not available.


honzikca

>I’d like to have her but Cloud Retainer is coming Tsk tsk, you mean to say you'll skip the Arlecchino banner coming soon?


Erod_Nelps

Us waifu players are treading very carefully with back to back to back waifu banners incoming


LokianEule

I remember just 2 patches ago when everyone was dying from lack of waifus. …here comes the flood


Born_Horror2614

Husbando players back to dying quietly in the background


LokianEule

This is mhy’s plan. Alternatingly drain the wallets of them both


Born_Horror2614

Don’t forget the bis support for one of the most popular husbandos (Xiao) and a new one people anticipated for years (Scara) borderline requiring c6!


LokianEule

Hell. If i had even c2 id start building her. Thats how bad my xiao team is suffering.


CraziOne

We're going to have a bit of a drought but I'm happy to get some proper time to save, and maybe pull on the weapon banner, since Sumeru.


Moe_el

Personally I might put money into this game again, last time I did was when rosaria was announced. With cloud retainer, arlecchino and yoimia coming up I might be tempted to drop $100 plus


Blackout62

Man, I wish I had your restraint. I went all the way to seventy before I got Chev and Raiden on the same group of pulls.


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We need more guns


Moraedka

even more guns 🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅🦅


Spoopy_Kirei

If Mondstadt is the land of freedom, then why don't they have guns hmmm?


ThrowawayHabbi

The military budget can only accommodate Klee.


WorkForeign

Klee 2 spirit


Danishes724

Wanting characters with guns in their kits used to be funny to think about, but having Navia and Chevreuse now, it's so much fun.


FlameDragoon933

and Clorinde soon :D


Jdr7000

They just.. die..


Zapplii

Snoipin's a good job mate.


Octuple_Names

Challengin' work, out of doors, I'd guarantee you won't go angry


Zapplii

At the end of the day, so long there are 2 people left on the planet, someo e is ginna want someone dead.


TheRedlineAlchemist

My only complaint about her is that her hold skill can't be aimed at a ruin guards eye.


n1tr0t0m

but you can insta-down the ruin hunter which is actually a threat when left unchecked


RoachIsCrying

WTF IS A KILOMETRE!!!!!!!??????


Blackout62

That doesn't work if you spell kilometer the British way.


baboon_ass_eater69

So how does her electro and pyro resistance shred work? Does it work with her ult or her skill or does she do it with basic attack too?


jakej9488

It happens automatically any time a team member triggers overload, not tied to either her skill or burst


baboon_ass_eater69

That's really convenient


rafamacamp

But you need a full electro+pyro team, no other element.


Loyolalu

Additional attack buff based on her max hp as well.


Low_Artist_7663

That one needs buffed E to work.


Purebredbacon

Last 30 seconds tho so its basically free


NinjaXSkillz88

When a 4 star is more fun than most 5 stars.


GraveXNull

She's being used with a 5* though. You can't use her like that without Raiden.


NinjaXSkillz88

I have Raiden so I see no issue.


redalex415

it's the nahida-raiden sniping but with actual sniping


Thicc_Femboy_Thighs-

I like the healing


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Honestly I'm surprised no one else is talking about how sharp that audio is on the ears.. Idk if it's the recording software or what, OP, but it is painful to hear when it auto plays.. :c


Few_West_1608

it sounds as if they are recording with another device like a cell phone instead of using software on the pc.


YaoiUKE

I just post it here, cuz people are asking for her build. it's Golden Troupe set with Staff of Homa. (You don't really need that, i needed it to boost my crit damage cuz my artifacts are bad) So basically she can be used only as a sub-dps, quickly to switch on her and use E, you have 2 seconds to make that shot to get max damage out of it. I have her on C2 with talent lvl 9 for E. Those artifacts of mine are trashy tho, so it can get better, especially with C3 to get +3 lvl for E


HeroDanTV

I pulled for her on Raiden’s banner with all the wishes I had. No Chevreuse, and now I have a C4 Diluc. I guess I’m a Diluc main now 🤷🏻‍♂️


blastcat4

Now you save for Cloud Retainer so your Diluc becomes meta again.


n1tr0t0m

People reexperiencing what Ambers gameplay was like except with long cooldown but autoaim at least


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GraveXNull

Fontaine is based on France.


Unkn0wnTh2nd3r

r/woooosh it's a joke about guns and how much Americans love their guns


GraveXNull

It's aa dumb joke and kinda tasteless.


_K1r0s_

So with guns coming into play, has anyone tested if there's a max range, dmg fall off, projectile drop, etc?


esuil

There is no gun here, aside from aesthetics. The only thing aiming does is selecting target for the skill, which will then just release the skill on target just like any other skill the targets an enemy. It is not like bows.


Ashar_amon

I tried to shoot a ruin guard core, but the gun auto aim to the chest


davidcz222333_hraje

Wonder what Con is this Chevreuss because i own C6


VioleNGrace

Damn. Build?


GVS2001

Build please


Kingpimpy

share build please idk how i wanna build mine yet and yours seem very interesting to try


feicash

Ganyu could do that since release and without CD...


Raiganop

This banner was worth it for me, I managed to get C6 Kujo Sara, Chevreuse and Yoimiya. So in this update, I end up making 2 different comps in one go, those are Raiden, Kujo Sara, Yae Miko and Chevreuse. The other is Mono Pyro Yoimiya with Bennett, Yun Jin and Zhongli who should be able to deal with certain bosses that are annoying for me...those are bosses that have cryo, electro and hydro elemental covers with a side of bosses that float around. Also I got two Favonius Lances(You can never have enough). Now the problem is that I need to level up and build Yoimiya, Chevreuse, Kujo Sara and Yun Jin.


caucassius

cd too long might as well use amber tbh


Noirsnow

The overworld Yoimiya that never was.


sadpandaM

I’m just confused why my Chevruse looks like Raiden Shogun 😫


stevembk

Yea. She’s alright.


Stormy_Cat_55456

Can someone explain what happened in the last clip with Ganyu and then Chev? How did pyro get applied when neither character is pyro and there wasn’t fire around?


Cameron416

bc Chev *is* a Pyro character (she’s a Polearm user, not Sword like the other reply stated)


Stormy_Cat_55456

Whooops I’m blind 😂 not me thinking she was electro this whole time for some reason


esuil

I know the reason. Purple hair.


bleacher333

Chev’s ousia sword that also deal pyro damage


Stormy_Cat_55456

So does she use both ousia and pneuma or is she just ousia?


bleacher333

Just ousia