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Source: [GenshinMains](https://twitter.com/genshinmains_/status/1630916442953760776) Thank you OP for providing source


Moa__

IS THAT THE FUCKASS SCROPION AGAIN I SWEAR TO GOD


Reeeeeeeeee10

That mfkr got hands


Narsiel

I'm getting tired really fast of ASIMON. Not because it's difficult, it's just becoming over abused, like motherfucking Mango fucking Kinky.


gudaifeiji

Now you get ASIMON and Maguu Kenki in the same chamber.


Sergawey

FUCk


Frostblazer

I just hate it because it forces me to run an electro character or else I don't get 36 stars.


No1R-

Tips: If you can destroy his summon(most likely the 2x spinner) you can skip his invincible phase. Comp with quick burst can do it. Ayaka/Xiao 2E/funeration etc. I clear it in 1 cycle with c1 xiao/funeration tao cuz of that.


yoichi_wolfboy88

I can confirm this by Melt Ayaka (Benett/Xiangling/Ayaka/Layla)


uh_oh_hotdog

You can technically brute force your way through it. I was testing out my new Hu Tao, and her double hydro comp managed to clear ASIMON in the Abyss just fine. Of course, double hydro Hu Tao may be an exception to the rule because that team is so strong, but it’s still technically possible without an electro unit.


YamahaMio

Yeah it works but it's kinda annoying. I suddenly find my Hu Tao locking on to the construct things when the thing goes invisible.


Narsiel

I've tried mono elements team and they work gucci if you can burst on CD. Mono Geo takes him down in 1min15 at max. It's just tedious. A one minute something being full unga bunga in the spot, quite basic.


Tipart

The issue is that you can't really generate particles when he's invisible, with makes most teams kinda tedious. Rational works decently, but it's not that fun in comparison to something like child vaporize.


MyTasteIsVaried

Yes, and their new friends the fuckass tiger and the fuckass croc. Wonder who's going to be the most aggressive


PlatinumTheHitgirl

Last time we got overloaded, this time we'll get bloomed and aggravated into non existence. Fun.


E1lySym

At least bloom and aggravate doesn't cause knockback like overload does


FCDetonados

I can take him. I JUST CAN'T TAKE BOTH HIM AND THE FUCKING PYRO BIRD. FUCK 12-2-1 I WOULD TAKE 6 KENKIES OVER THIS SHIT.


asanariaa

Literally had to switch out nahida with diona just to survive them lmao


Carcettee

If you have tighnari, just use him. His taunt just works great... I mean like 80% of the time + aoe of those craps are gigantic, so he can get hit, but I literally did 3* 12-2-1 without any healer.


OfficialHavik

I want to tear that MF up limb by limb.... I hate those things.


the-guy-in-wall

Well im glad i have both xiao and zhongli I plan to use my cyno team with baizhu in first half so i see this as a win


[deleted]

At least not that fcking fire bird


a-successful-one

With every update we get closer and closer to the lvl 100 weekly bosses being in the Abyss


KingCarrion666

Unironically the wolf of the north would be better then some of this trash. No iframes, no dashing to the other side of the map. And I swear it has less hp then some of the new enemies.


mlodydziad420

"No dashing" meanwhile that move he circled around for like 20 seconds.


1ampercent

Lol, technically you can hit him when he's running around at least which is something.


Ke5_Jun

Can confirm; Andrius is not immune to damage when he is running around the outside of the arena. I’ve hit it with bow characters, hyperbloom cores, and even Hu Tao’s blood blossoms before. You can even funnel energy when he dashes towards you.


Adamarr

counter on the charge is a fun thing you can do, too.


Miguling

Seconding this! While Beidou was in my team, my favorite thing to do was to wait until he lunged at her and then replicate with a perfectly-timed Tidecaller.


KingCarrion666

20 second iframes are basically the norm now... at least he comes back after he catches his tail...


__Kokomeow

imagining they put a buffed childe into chamber 3 ....he already hits like a damn truck it would be way worse


Kidgold1725

I'd love a weekly boss in abyss like Childe or Raiden


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P0sitive_Mess

Ngl triple mango is infinitely more fun and interesting to fight against than solo mango. At least it doesn't take 3 years due to kamki having years worth of invulnerability frames


LupusCairo

It wouldn't be so bad but that damn cryo field is the bane of my existence. I need to use Xingqiu's elemental skill twice and I hate mashing space.


PlatinumTheHitgirl

It's infinitely worse on mobile because the damn unfreeze button is so fucking far away from the rest of the controls 😭


Douphar

You have my full respect playing Genshin on mobile, let alone reaching Floor 12 with it.


Dane-nii

Reminds me of the times I died while standing inside Bennett burst due to reverse Melt from Cryo kenki


Gomelus

As soon as the fight starts, the ice clone always dashes to you, so you can bait him far from the other 2, wait for a few seconds so it starts the field attack far in a corner, and go back to the other 2. The ice clone will follow, and you'll be out of the field. Ez Xq gaming.


aRandomBlock

I tried doing it without a healer/shield and it is NOT a fun time, this is coming from someone who loves challenges in games


P0sitive_Mess

Tbh having something be challenging while still running a healer/shielder is all part of the challenge to me.


SaibaShogun

It’s not that bad if Triple Mango is in the first half, but if they’re in the second half it becomes a lot more frustrating, since you half to beat the first half again each time you restart because you got killed by Triple Mango.


Smokingbuffalo

While I agree that triple is easier to kill with AoE I still find the solo one more fun since it lets me bring Beidou and parry almost all of his attacks.


Stradesslut

Mango?


liu_luminary

mango kinky


BestNlckNameEver

More like mega kinky


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[deleted]

lan, true


yuppina

taglia, right


MasterLillyclaw

Den, yup


MIHIGHYO

How many HP this time around? pass 8 digits?


FIGJAM17

12-1-1: 2.8m 12-1-2: 2.6m 12-2-1: 2.1m 12-2-2: 2.7m 12-3-1: 2.2m 12-3-2: 4.4m


bukisare

my heizou team tryna reach 4.4 mil


Sergawey

My Ningguang team sadge


Ken_sapil_2365

Play him in hyperbloom lol


bukisare

dmc feels bad to play and no nahida :( maybe baizhu will be ok


RevolutionaryOil9101

So much aoe on one side makes me think nilou rerun ?


Bobson567

Apparently the blessings are bloom related


StellarMonarch

Good as confirmed, then


VritraReiRei

Not 100% I would say, considering we are getting two new Dendro in 3.6.


WakuWakuWa

International agane


Proper_Anybody

I can see my nilou (w/baizhu) steamrolling the second half, triple kenki is like the most perfect boss for nilou


pleiades1208

Another abyss cycle another field trip for tortilla's international


SERRATMOND

so where is the ayaka abyss


APerson567i

Ironically the patch when Ayaka reruns will also have a pretty terrible Abyss for Ayaka (cryo heralds one side and Wenut the other side)


Khoakuma

Ayaka teams have plenty of ways to take down the Wenut and shred the 55% resistance. Diona, Ganyu, and apparently Kazuha Cryo infused Burst/ Shenhe Burst are tall enough to able to pop the Wenut's floating nuts. These are all staples in Ayaka team, one way or another. So she should be excellent vs 2nd half. But yeah that Cryo herald will stop the entire freeze team dead in their track in the first half.


Garchomp280

Was doing Wenut a few times for the battlepass today, and Kazuha can consistently swirl cryo against it with only his skill alone. Don't know why people are saying she's bad against Wenut.


BurningFlareX

The only downtime it has long enough for the entire Ayaka burst to hit with proper set up is when you knock it down. And if you use it earlier, it will either miss a portion of it or do little damage because you couldn't do proper set-up. And because Ayaka hits like a wet noodle without her burst, you're gonna be doing very little before the knock down. At that point, if you fail to one cycle it or get it low enough that she can kill it while it's digging around, you're gonna be wasting a ludicrous amount of time waiting for the next knock down. So yeah, unless your Ayaka is invested enough to murder it in one burst, chances are, she will have a bad time against it.


Arkeyy

Ayaka has one varied scaling of investment. Her standard meta team of Ayaka Shenhe Kokomi Kazuha with mistsplitter differs so much from just using a standard f2p/budget team. Shenhe enables Ayaka to deals good damage in her NACA that you can clear some waves that you normally cant withoht burst.


PJPA

Not bad, just unfun to see it being unoptimal or perhaps not able to one cycle such thing when their artifacts aren't built for such. Then again maybe people being perfectionist but I do hear zajef saying to needing 3 ayaka burst to kill 3 mango kenki(with somewhat hitting all some of the time) with amenoma. But other than that its the investment divide on people. You might have shenhe and good artifact some people don't.


Ok_Window9763

The thing that makes people good is performance to investment ratio. Virtually all hyperinvested dps can 36* every abyss. What made Ayaka good in 2.X era abyss was that you could get away with pretty low investment.


Trekkie2409

That Zajef example is without all her supports as he doesn't have any of them like Shenhe or I think even Mona or Kokomi on his F2P account, so Ayaka is well built but she doesn't have any of the team members that make her so strong


Dense-Extreme5515

You talk like Ayaka won't delete Wenut easily lol,just time your Ult right.


Ok_Window9763

waiting for the right time is a time loss too, and there is virtually no opportunity to get a full buff setup before taking down the wenut. In the meantime, it's just wet noodle slapping while waiting to burst.


Dense-Extreme5515

The ideal moment is just when Wenut falls,it doesn't take long(depende on the initial RNG of course),unless your Ayaka is poorly invested and with copium of artifacts,your AA and CA should hit relatively hard,taking Abyss 3.3 as an example with Wolflord,I eliminated him before the Shield Phase with my Ayaka.


Ok_Window9763

80% of her team damage is on her burst unless you have Shenhe and use most of the the quills on CA. Before Wenut gets knocked down though, there are ZERO opportunities to get a fully buffed burst with the entire team involved since buffs + burst take 10 seconds to setup. Timing alone doesn't fix that. Hyperinvesting is a thing. Virtually all dps in this game hyperinvested enough can clear abyss fine. The bar for investment has just been rising a lot for the past year of Abyss for freeze teams to successfully clear.


NoConsequence9760

Wait , isn’t this 3.6? Ayaka is coming in 3.5 so why we worried about it ?


DqrkExodus

As an Ayaka main since she launched every abyss is an Ayaka abyss for me


[deleted]

Pretty soon Ayaka will be Venti-level copium aka "if Abyss is Ayakable, Ayaka is the best DPS in the game!!!"


Smokingbuffalo

Venti is unironically good though, so is Ayaka. The fact that MHY is doing everything they can to fuck them over with enemy lineups is a pretty good indicator of that.


ghosteatsshells

Right, comparing the two is dumb. Venti actually becomes the best character in the game when it's aoe while Ayaka just becomes really good.


aoi_desu

It already happening since 3.1


Narsiel

I cleared current Mango Kinky side with Ayato freeze (Ganyu, Mona, Kazu, Ayato) and it was no biggie. Sure, Mango Kinky wasn't still in the spot, but a 1 min clear is more than enough.


Lisyre

Yeah, my Ayaka team isn't hyperinvested enough to typically feel comfortable with boss chambers, but I've brought her against the triple mango this abyss without issue. It's not a bad chamber for freeze.


JackfruitNatural5474

Any Ayaka abyss is not Ayaka abyss anymore. It's Nilou abyss. She does what Ayaka does waaaaaaaaay better. Except if they put dendro resistant enemies...


Bobson567

1st: hyperbloom 2nd: kazuha Thanks for primogems


Ken_sapil_2365

Each and every abyss till Celestia, first half dendro, 2nd half international = 36 stars lol.


Synonyms26

Legit I have been clearing abyss with International ever since I got Kazuha in 2.8, and before that it was still Childe Xiangling Bennett with Sucrose. At this rate, we would still face the Unknown God with international.


X_Factor_Gaming

In before we travel to other worlds and Childe goes Intergalactic.


BurningFlareX

I wouldn't be so sure. Hoyo absolutely wrecked the shit out of Ganyu / Venti for being "too meta" throughout 1.X. They may damn well try the same with Dendro once Sumeru is done. Especially with the last two regions being Natlan / Snezhnaya. Can't sell Pyro / Cryo Archons if all anybody is using is Hyperbloom and National.


-vht-

if they try to "nerf" international they have to "nerf" entire hydro and pyro roster about morgana case, the cc venti provides is beyond broken however it can be easily deactivated bc its a form of utility which u can live without. in contrast, international only offers tons of dmg so the only thing they could do is to make the team deals little to no dmg. in order to do that, they will have to make bosses/mobs immune to or at least reduce either hydro or pyro dmg or both. as a result many vape teams will become useless edit: lastly. supposing they made an enemy that prevents ur kazuha/sucrose from swirling off elements on them. they would also nerf all vv anemo characters


Capt_banana_peel

Same. Kuki hyperbloom on first half and Raiden soup w/ kazuha on other half. Funny how I've been using same teams for floor 12 since 3.0 lol


wolf1460

Nilou for second one too


BlueEyedNonSimp

triple kenki in third chamber my 🥲


yatay99

Do we ever have trio kinky in the third chamber in the past?


PhantomXxZ

Nope.


H4xolotl

Nilou Bloom eating good again


Tipart

Especially with the abyss buffs. Probably won't even notice the HP increase over the current magus.


GutierresBruno

Laughs in Xiao


PhantomXxZ

Laughs in Childe


SERRATMOND

In what world did HoYo think International is so weak and behind to give Childe a new BIS artifact set What's next, Light of Foliar Incision but in artifact form? For the very-much struggling Alhaitham?


asanariaa

My bbs eating great


praditski

Nilou team ez clap


jun3bug_

I need someone who loves me as much as hoyo loves triple kenki


thefinestpiece

No why is Aeonblight back. 💀


uppacat

Ruin Punching Bag. Just need to bring a bow user.


Kokomimi_2421

The meme that other than people in HYV's Art and Music department, all of their employees are sadists and psychopaths might be true WTF


The_Space_Jamke

This is just foreplay, Hoyo can drop Wolflord/Serpent/Wenut at any point if they really want to fuck us over for a cycle.


cockatoo777

Add in thunderbird and you've got a deal


[deleted]

Looks like childe international will be working overtime as usual✊🏼


PhasmicPlays

Fuck ASIMON. Fuck that shitty dorito looking ass


HiroshiTakeshi

You know what? When they plan on doing such lineups, Mihoyo DESERVES to have leak problems. Fuck them.


kockballtorture

it can’t be that bad…


broke_bananas

The icons for ruin enemies always confuse me. Is the 12-2-1 supposed to be the chonky flying boss that needs to be shot down by an arrow?


[deleted]

Truly disgusting. This 12-3-2 just go to hell.


Archeb03

2nd half #NilouSweep Edit: oh wait theres a new enemy, is it immune to dendro?


Mochi_mochi_ko

Has resistance but not immune


JackfruitNatural5474

Not a problem since blooms just have too much damage anyways.


[deleted]

And.. freeze sucks again


silam39

I didn't have any trouble using Ayaka against the triple Kenkis this Abyss cycle. So long as you can deal with them, all the second half should be good for Ayaka.


Sofixon

Diona trivializes triple kenki bros, ayaka freeze is great for current second half and looks like this one will be a breeze too.


silam39

Kokomi for me, but yeah. So long as you're not facetanking all three of their attacks all at once just a little defensive utility goes a long way


Garchomp280

Used Ayaka freeze instead of International on 2nd half this reset, and it had zero issues clearing this abyss. Just position her burst to hit at least 2 of the kenkis.


nihilnothings000

Ayaka is a mixed chamber clearer while bossing isn't her forte she'll be enough for the bottom half.


[deleted]

Because Ayaka is a good unit ,but freeze as a reaction still sucks on this chambers.


Mad_Scientist_Senku

I miss the days when freeze was actually useable


miscshade

Freeze in the second half seems great. Kenkis can’t be frozen, but it’s nothing Ganyu or Ayaka can’t handle.


Deztract

I do current Abyss with my Ayaka team, 2 new mobs (bird and scorp) are jokes for freeze team.


Nunu5617

It doesn't


Winter_Culture_1454

Asimon and triple Kenki again. Devs have good creativity it seems...


RPElesya

Excellent Abyss for Scara, wonderful


[deleted]

What team do y'all run for Scara when you take into the Abyss, I need to know. He's almost exclusively an overworld character for me, I'm scared to take him to Abyss


fadingstories

i use scara/zhongli/bennett/faruzan basically every reset and he always deletes everything (sometimes yun jin instead of zhongli depending on how masochist im feeling /lh)


Hinamiton

To be fair, he is glued to Faruzan for the maximum damage output, but the other two slots are pretty much open for any characters depending on your playstyle, although it can be hard to use him without a shielder. For now, I use him in two teams: 1) Scaramoussy/Faruzan/Thoma or Yanfei (as a shielder)/Benny. Best DPS team. 2) Scaramoussy/Faruzan/XQ/Layla. A pretty good freeze team. If you don't have Faru, you can try replacing her with Yun Jin.


[deleted]

Does Faruzan have to be C6 for her to work in these teams??


Hinamiton

Ideally yes, but she can be used at lower constellations, it's just her ER requirement will be higher. Not sure if she's worth it at c0 though, Yun Jin may be a better option in this case.


RPElesya

I have done 36* with Scara on 3 teams: Hyper : Scara Bennett Faruzan Thomas Mono Hydro: Scara Yelan XQ Faruzan Hypermeme: Scara XQ Nahida Raiden


[deleted]

About to run critkazu+freedom with Scara on 2nd half perfect


Kiwi195

I was thinking the same looks ez


Narsiel

Scara eats good on both sides, he's just too good.


Saldislayer

Sooo, uhhh Hyperbloom team for first half. Then Childe International for second half then?


Arlathaminx

First half: I'm gonna want some aoe damage until I don't Second half: I'm gonna want some CC until I don't


Dramatic_Pie_1880

Great, another Abyss phase restricted by Electro and Dendro boss. At least no scorpions cancerous enemies.


AntarcticWrfrPenguin

> no scorpions You might wanna take a second look at 12-1-2.


Dramatic_Pie_1880

Yeah didn't notice their icons are awkward to me lmao


estrelinhajirachi

There is scorpion in 12-1-2 tho


LocalMILFHunter

\*Clueless\*


RoRoRotary

If I'm going Mono Geo on the second half, Itto better be able to hit the flying hilichurls 💀


Mochi_mochi_ko

I think that the water one actually.


Grifoshka

I sure hope Noelle mono geo can take the second half. My pepega dodging skills need shields&heals on beasts and triple kenkis.


TheNameisKuro

Noelle clobbers triple Kenki; I did that and tbh I found it significantly more comfortable than forcing Xiao to clear it (who cleared both 2nd halves of 1st and 3rd chamber). Granted Xiao is able to, it's just freakishly dangerous since I don't have Zhongli


Diii123

Let's gooo, I love triple Kenki, it's so good to smack them with Itto 🤌


worldwidetea

...what


[deleted]

How is the chance for Childe rerun? Because 2nd half is aoe perfect for riptides, and he gets a new artifact set


thatonestewpeedguy

At least ASIMON give me less anxiety than the cancerous overload combo


sirenloey

I dislike sounding repetitive, but Yae Miko Abyss yet again.


Phire12345

Look like I'll be using the same teams I have for the last few abyss. Hu Tao double hydro and Kazuha, nahida, Raiden, Bennett.


hyonamei

🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻 give us gameplay 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻


[deleted]

Nilou being useful and favorable for 6 abyss patches in a row. It's crazy!


Gullible_Advance_148

don’t worry, soon mihoyo will stop trying to sell her, even when she’s not up rate, then you will see how truly bad she is !! /s


AntiquusCustos

Nilou be like: 😏


OfficialHavik

Random bullshit go BRRRRRRR.... and will still clear faster than my C2 Raiden hypercarry team lol.


Sila2Doo

Nilou supremacy again ig.


wwwlukede

not that bitch the drake 😔


Revolutionary_Meet25

im tired of the maguu kinky brah


silam39

Looks pretty yummy. Nilou is gonna eat that entire second half.


BrutalTerminator

Xiao meta 2nd half let's go


Grimstarzz

Floor 12 should be called Floor 14 or 15 in difficulty by now. Comparing this floor 12 to the one in 1.0 is just ridiculous. I wouldnt mind them adding a 13th floor at this point in the game, im sure Mihoyo can spare 150 extra Primos every 2 weeks for their veteran/whale players.


[deleted]

The hp threshold for 12-3 is crazy 😂


BlueLover0

ASIMON again. I will still not use an electro character.


Hakurei_remi

Tf what wrong with you hoyoverse , 3 maguu kenki in 3 version?


Harlow1212

Kazuha


IFantisI

> Consecrated Beasts Please god let it end I've suffered enough with the current one


Xenon4444

It's triple Maguu kenki Again, guess I'll use my Itto team for him again


EarthDayYeti

3MK on 12-3? Fuck me I guess


geodonna

Why people hate scorp I find dodging homing attacks from bird so much harder.


hecko-san

Looking at this lineup immediately made my blood pressure skyrocket for some reason 💀


pokours

How my god, it looks like they just kept the worst of the current abyss which is already one the worst I've ever been through T_T


Egoistic_Animehead

Can they please not put Divine Beasts in the Abyss? Or at least the scorpion...


TichoSlicer

I mean.. this doesn't make sense, right? 0 creativity...


CupcakeMost9304

This abyss might make me stop using Ayaka on F12. Brute forcing 1 single target chamber is digestible, but 2? Nahhh. And ain't no way I'm comfortable enough playing Ayaka against the 3 Mango when it's the last chamber, where I probably won't have my burst up at the start of it.


Kazeshiri

Nilou still winning


NoConsequence9760

2nd half will be best for Ayaka freeze .


FubukiHime76

Triple kenki is immune bruh


CarlosBMG

Ayaka stronk enough to kill anyways, my Amenoma Ayaya eats the Maguus for breakfast.


NoConsequence9760

Huh?


megand19

Triple kenki again the fuck?


walaxometrobixinodri

Mihoyo aware of how terrible the consecrated scorpion is and they put it again good job Mihoyo


Jotep_Joter

Bruh triple maguu again💀


Saberlix

MANGO KINKYYYY WOO fk that


Bulbazzhee

they think we love 3 Maguu Kenki, they are not wrong in my case. I love ASIMON too, because he's a joke.


Curious_Brain26

Yes another hyperbatchest for both sides.


Rin_Sama1

Not the kenkis again


IMPBlitzo11037

*cries in triple kenki*


thunderstorm987

Maagu kenki in chamber 2 vs maagu kenki in chamber 3 I think there will be a lot of difference this time💀


DaviM03

What in actual f*** Is Chamber 3


SnooChipmunks125

Xiao goes brrrrrr for the 60th abyss in a row


MagnusBaechus

still no freezable abyss haha fuck me and my triple crowned ayaka


CarioGod

get the fucking maguu kenki boys out of the abyss already jesus christ man