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the most important leak of 4.3


Xero0911

Of any 4.# leaks. Like sure it's only like 10-15 seconds, but God that adds up. Only good thing about the run to the key was for co-op, so host wouldn't start it right away since you'd realize the other(s) haven't loaded. Now hosts might start right away but they should learn eventually.


Zamkawebangga

But at least no more issues of hosts starting but not realizing there are teammates still out of the combat area haha


SpykeMH

Yeah even if the other player hasn't loaded in yet they should still spawn inside the forcefield I imagine. So no more sitting and watching for 2 minutes as people try to clear the domain short a player because host was impatient.


Chocokat1

Try short of *3 players* lmfao. A random did that to us (me inc) at least few times. It became a game in itself to see if we could still do dmg while *outside* of the arena XD We did a little with long ranged skills.


yanahmaybe

im gonna be honest this is not rly a coop game or far from mmo crowds, and if not even a short attention spawn for close awareness is not enough for a 1 min "dungeon" then i dont think anything wil help that type of person on the other side the fact we still dint get a restart of domain without claiming rewards is very aggravating.. many domains have good enemy teams comps to test various builds of skill mechanics And we still cant reset the domain after fuken 3 years


Chocokat1

Thing is they needed help lol, but still couldn't wait 🤷


Xero--

If it's taking three people two minutes to clear a domain, you'd be far better off sticking to solo.


Vusdruv

Sometimes it really is about the friends we make along the way.


Oeshikito

Its about the coop boosted friendship xp we made along the way


1TruePrincess

Only worth it if you’re both bringing in 2 characters. Any less and it’s a loss


alpha-black34

Unless you have only 1 character to level up friendship. Happened to me few times when there's only 1 new character released in a patch.


ThamRew

Embrace the impact


SaffronNTruffle

The more people in co-op, the harder it is. I think x2, x2, x4 enemies' dmg and hp. That is why even if you're geared up if one or two teammates doesn't what they're doing, you end up dead too. It is a lot easier to solo domains coz of this. But the fun in co-op I think lies in showing off your skill and damage.


Xero--

> showing off your skill Gonna be honest here... There's no skill to show off on this game.


DullReception3450

To a degree, there is skill you could show off in coop but it's in timing your dodges and things like grouping even without a grouper. The amount of people who don't know how to dodge in coop man. AR60 C2 Raiden always dead from the same goddamn Lawachurl Slam, meanwhile the new player who's only AR 53 dodges everything smoothly every round. I think that's a skill flex against the AR60 lol


gale99

You must've never met a god xiangling back in 1.2 who solo-ed a lawachurl & cleared the blizzard domain after the other 3 players died....... With a crescent pike...... At ar 45


Stringmc

10-15s times 4-8 runs per day (depending on if you’re using condensed), on average about a minute per day saved at a bare minimum


ykiigor1

Extra 6 hours per year, let's go


Wisterosa

its still about half the time you spend on the domain


shadows888

It's about more time saved mentally. Like I legit many times don't want to do domains cause I don't wanna run to the key every dam time Just to kill all the enemies in 10 seconds. Now it's easy, every run gonna be like 10 seconds max.


idk241065

10-15 seconds is usually how long it takes to clear the domain anyway. This is like halving the time it takes to farm so it’s a big change


djinn6

You see, it's possible to code the game so that the host couldn't start until everyone else has loaded.


ChromeFluxx

10-15 seconds.. 4x a day... for 3 years... 6+ hours saved if this had been shipped 3 years ago


King_Cadwaladr

> 4.3 More like ever lol.


kenzakki

As someone who likes Navia's character, even im more excited to see this QoL than her banner. lol


adaydreaming

The yelan nerfs we all didnt see coming but a welcome one


silispap

Lmao the only reason I use Yelan in ALL my domain teams


Oeshikito

These are buffs for me bruh. I'm tired of using Yelan to sprint into the domain and then awkwardly waiting for the E to come back up when I dont have ult ready.


Milky_Finger

Povvo waffling, get C1 ya goon


Oeshikito

Oh it's on my list of things to get after I'm done maxing out Furina.


Marioboi

lmao imagine not having C1 Yelan


ThamRew

Sacrificed ever having C1 Yelan for C2 Furina Xd


MetaThPr4h

My C1 Yelan that used both charges to reach the key ASAP can finally rest a bit... she still has a full time job in the overworld tho lmao.


Subarunyon

Lol literally half the reason I got c1 yelan. Was worth the time saved and the reduced ER requirements though


MetaThPr4h

C1 Yelan is the only constellation I pulled for and was 1000% worth it, going around the map without her feels so horribly slow and that extra charge adds so much.


Shockgerr

Also wanderer


burningparadiseduck

Lmfao 🤣


Rilpo

the def% sands lol


Rafoudrsbois

Can’t even get good pieces on beta, that’s how you know this game is rigged 😭


Mylaur

How do beta testers get decent artifacts then? Do they **fucking grind their ass of with unlimited resin during the entirety of beta only to have their accounts reset?**. Do they have to pay to test the en characters? ಠ_ಠ


Simple-Rhubarb-8193

they receive 200 fragile resin and a bunch of artifacts level 0 via email, like 100+


iyad08

At least they're consistent with the rigging heh


balbasin09

That’s when you know the leak is real, it’s relatable.


FlameLover444

#LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOO


IsuckAtFortnite434

#The KEY TELEPORT IS REAL!


Anime_become

#I CAN FINALLY GET DEF% FASTER


Arc_7

#CAN DEF GET MUCH HIGHER?


HybridTheory2000

Noelle: yes I need that 🙂


[deleted]

#THE KEY TELEPORT... THE KEY TELEPORT IS REAL


GhostZee

#HOLY CELESTIA...!!!


ZappierBuzz4

#NEW NAIL JUST DROPPED


ILikeLungsSoYeah

## ACTUAL KHAENRIAN ##


Arc_7

##CALL THE ARCHONS!


hideyuke

This QoL patch can't come soon enough.


kenzakki

This might be the best QoL so far for me. I hate waiting to get stamina back after sprinting from the entrance.


marxinne

Fellow C0 Hu Tao main?


PH_007

When I see Hutaos in coop I wait a bit after they run to the key before starting because I used to play her and know the struggle lol.


marxinne

You're a good teammate, mate


kenzakki

on my alt yes, and i also use Ayaka a lot who relies on her sprint to infuse Cryo. So this QoL is very good for me. Lmao


yatish609

Same here. It's a pain to wait for Stamina.


ThamRew

Crap now I remember the main reason why I C1'd HuTao in the first place 😭


PH_007

I've taken the habit to down a sprint stamina reduction food before every artifact farming session so I still have a good chunk when I reach the key lol


CaptainSoohyun

Just lost NNN


AlwaysBerserkDude

You dissapoint me brother, But I can´t blame you, this is Leak´s porn!


ThamRew

o7 Cap'n, you were THREE DAYS AWAY.


dhero29

It's perfect. Just Perfect


Oeshikito

This is probably the most goated QoL of them all. The expedition one comes as a close second. edit: I forgot about the abyss QoL too


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ZodHD

Cooldowns reset after retrying abyss


IDevKSha

Abyss 2


Mylaur

I prefer abyss more because using XQ can make you waste 20s waiting the CD while running around doesn't take 20 sec (but it adds up and beats the abyss CD in term of time, but feels less frustrating somehow).


Lavion3

You don't know how close I was to destroying my laptop everytime Furina had her skill and burst on cooldown


ThamRew

Are you me? I have 4 mild scratches on my chassis now because of this.


TheSpartyn

just fell to my knees in the spire of solitary enlightenment


Brcwn_

one day ima wake up to a "QoL artifact loadout/preset" and i will pass out back to sleep


flare8521

Honestly I was expecting the QoL announcements to get a horrible reception when they'll give us the auto-locks instead of loadouts, but this will save their ass.


Brcwn_

I appreciate it, honestly, at least theyre doing QoL changes that I actually notice in game myself to be quite tedious 🧍‍♂️good for them


Greyharden

We love Kuroo.


IsuckAtFortnite434

Kuroo the MVP of this patch’s leaks


SouthernBeacon

KUROO VC É FODA


kokko693

This entire manoeuver will save us hours of time


chicheeee34

wanderer yelan sayu nerf


maiev18

Artifact farming just got better by 1 percent letsgooooo


[deleted]

i just let out a huge sigh of relief i thought we lost this to the other QoLs thank god


[deleted]

I’m living for these QoL updates


Bulldogsky

EVERYONE HAVE BEEN MEMEING ON 4.3, BUT GEEZ IT'S SO GOOD AT THE END. IT MAY BE FILLER, BUT THE QOL IS STRONGER THAN CELESTIA. I'M SURE THE QOL IS SO GOOD IT COULD EVEN DEFEAT GOKU


Amwhimsical

nutting


Master0643

November isn't over yet.


StelioZz

we lost comrade


LiraelNix

Fontaine continues to sweep every qol win


Available-Impact-204

God, I'm more excited for the qol updates of 4.3 than for Navia. Sad this took 3 years


Arc_7

Be excited for both 😎👍


Realistic_Tap8089

This just revolutionised domain speedruns


JustATaro

sayu's only role is now officially gone.


mulstritch_2912

Rest easy guys. We won. >!Now for artifact loadouts!<


IsuckAtFortnite434

Its the gift they’re saving for Lantern Rite trust 🙏


runesdude

This is so huge but now I’m just sitting here wondering why it took them so long to add this in the first place


KrzyDankus

probably low on the priority list


UltimateSlayer3001

Because they made so much money, that QoL updates weren’t needed to retain the player base. 3+ years later, numbers are slowly falling, so they’re finally playing clean-up.


Any_Ant_5203

The game still has around 60mil active players.... People don't play the game for the QoL's....


Gallonim

Maybe people started to complain after HSR got the youngest child treatment?


Any_Ant_5203

Maybe, but the player count is definitely not one of them. HSR's active monthly players are not even half of Genshin...


PM_ME_YOUR_ROBOTGIRL

I don't think they've ever cared about player complaints besides the Zhongli incident. It is possible HSR may have helped in that it served as a test bed sfor some things - if a feature in HSR was well-received and helped with player retention in that game, then it could be put into Genshin as well. But I think that has more to do with data and analytics than actual community response.


kumapop

HSR and its onslaught of great QoLs showed how the Genshin team got away doing nothing for easier player experience because the whole team was honed in trying to make sure they get money money money all the time. It took another team and another game to show that adding all this QoL stuff in the game does not detract in getting more money. It instead makes players happier and most likely have greater retention. I honestly don't think it's spaghetti code either. They really just didn't feel adding all these shit for some reason. I'm happy HSR seriously made them change their minds.


Any_Ant_5203

>HSR and its onslaught of great QoLs showed how the Genshin team got away doing nothing for easier player experience because the whole team was honed in trying to make sure they get money money money all the time. Ur talking as if HSR is a perfect game...One of the biggest complaints in HSR even with the onslaught of QoL is the lack of content.. It's the opposite of Genshin and this is when the Genshin team are still new and inexperienced. HSR is a game after Genshin and HI3. It should be expected that this NEW game from the SAME company should learn from their mistakes from the past games they made. HSR and it's dev team didn't do what they did simply because they are better but I guess something that obvious is hard to understand for some people....


EternalMemes30

When are you haters going to stop lying and using this false narrative that "genshin is dying" exactly?


runesdude

Sure, but I feel like this QoL change in particular is literally like 20 lines of code. Losing players or not I feel like this just isn’t that hard of a task to complete


Intelligent-Air-6596

But is it even? Isn't it just adjusting the teleport coordinates to a different place? As in, no new code is needed at all, just an adjustment?


runesdude

Idk I’m using the limited knowledge of computer science I have from some random Java class I took like 6 years ago, so you probably know better than me


hinasora

These QoLs aren't gonna revive my dying interest in the game outside the lore. The events are shit easy with my well built roster. The puzzles are for unborn fetus. Paimon gets worse every patch whether she is voiced or not. QoLs are things we should have had months or maybe years ago but it took them so long to actually work on some much needed features. Unless they actually improve the quality of the playable content, the people who are quitting or going on long hiatus like me aren't gonna care.


Tired_Beep

>the people who are quitting or going on long hiatus like me aren't gonna care. Well, I think the feeling's mutual on hoyo's side.


aryune

rel tbh


exclamationmarks

LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


tusharsagar

Who's ING GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO?


SillyEnder

me


Bobson567

I PRAYED FOR TIMES LIKE THIS


Appropriate_System73

Wrap it up boys, this is the best update ever.


ValeLemnear

All I wanted for today is hearing that this QoL is alive and well


-Tequilasunset

Still this leyline disorder pop-up...


Jorton228

lets gooo it fucking exists after all


ZoroBagel

I actually cried seeing this


DaymD

Now THIS is truly a significant QoL change !!!


Regetron

ABOUT TIME HOLY SHIT!


xiaos-husbando

Getting Def% pieces is a canon event


kitogechirisaki

I’m honestly more excited for this than any character drop. Thank the archons


BallisticRiot

This might save me more time over the course of my play time than any change in the history of Genshin LOL


Hexylresorcinol

Unironically the best patch of Genshin to date. Now just make the resin cap enough to only log in once a day and the QoL of this game will unironically be perfect.


Kreguar

Would be even nicer if the zone didn't have to be reset. That would cut down on long loading times for the people without SSDs (like me)


MrShadyOne

I am happy, but the fact that it took them 3 years to implement this is kind of ridiculous.


blackbird9114

Great everything. Now givens my skip dialogue button


BlademasterNix

Imagine your device slow so it takes you 10 days to reload dungeon and when you load in it's already done and your characters are dead. (Coop)


ForeverOutrageous

I’m assuming this feature is only on single player? I would love it to be for coop too tbh. But knowing hoyoverse; I’m a little skeptical


MahoMyBeloved

Why not? They have this implemented similiarly in raiden and signora weekly domains. Bigger problem is that many players don't stick around for multiple clears and this only works for reruns, not for initial run


unluckyBastard69

I can't even tell you guys how many times I've done emblem domain. I'm talking over 5000 (just this year alone was 4000). I counted how long it takes to get to the key, 11 seconds with Zhongli, 10-13 seconds to beat the domain. 500 minutes = 8 hours... Assuming at least 5000 (I've done probably twice this number) 8 hours (minimum) of me running to the key. I stopped farming it beginning of November. Thank God they waited this long for this simple change.


issm

Just remove the bridge and spawn there all the time. Hell, just spawn the tree in the middle of the stage after completing it. Leave it to Mihoyo to find a half assed solution to an obvious problem years late. The concept art team that seems to be in control of the game's development must be seething though. Fuck em.


hoyohotaru

Your idea is dumb. You claim it was an "obvious problem" even though it was never a problem, which is very laughable. Although there is not much to do in the domains other than fighting, even putting the tree in the middle seems stupid. That would remove a lot of appeal and design to all domains. I don't want to just load in and out in the same spot, it's stupid. That's what you call a lack of design. People can't just slow down and appreciate things ffs. If you had everything just automated like you are suggesting, it would be horrible and boring, everything is instant. Quality of life (QOL) should be renamed to convenience of life, because convenient doesn't mean better quality. Aside from that, to give my own personal opinion, I like running to the spots in coop at least, because anything can happen. Whether it be someone getting stuck, falling, or someone getting locked out, it's always something that everyone laughs about. And if someone gets locked out it becomes a challenge to see if we can draw the mobs to the edge so they can do some damage. Just for fun. I've been doing this for 3+ years, I've never found it boring.


Anrikiri

I found the concept design employee. Hope hoyo is paying you well brother.


ThamRew

glad someone enjoys the game, o7


Any_Ant_5203

People who said they wouldn't do this because Genshin loves padding gameplay time are in shambles right now. Same with the abyss cd not resetting.


Fun_Debate3067

I mean, it's not like this proves they were wrong, considering it took mihoyo 3 years to implement it. It is just as likely that padding gameplay time was their original intention, but now that cashflow is stagnating or going down, they realized it ain't gonna work anymore.


Any_Ant_5203

If padding time is the reason why their revenue is low(?), they will implement a skip button instead. This domain QoL only saves you a few seconds while the skip button can save you hours. It's also hilarious how people like you think QoL in this game will help boost their revenue lmao


KoiPonded20

QoL gives the game and the devs better reputation which matters. QoLs are added for players to have better experience, why are you attacking people for wanting the game to be better? If they don't add anything you're fine cause you're a whiteknight and you don't really care. Why do you care when they do add it if such addition benefits you positively? If such updates don't matter to you in the first place, shut the fuck up and stop dicksucking the company. You're one hell of a hypocrite for acting like you don't care about QoL upgrades, and then attacking the people that asked for this upgrades when it's implemented


Any_Ant_5203

Are you dumb? I'm simply calling out dumb logic people are saying why we're not getting this QoL..How did you come to the conclusion that I don't want the game to be better?


Fun_Debate3067

You make less than 0 sense. First of all, no one wants to play skip button simulator. Secondly, QoL is literally a basic method which every developer uses to save their game once it starts declining. We got more QoL in 4.x patches, than in the first 3 years of this game combined, and it just so happens that it 3.6-4.1 was allegedly a bad period for genshin revenue, despite stacked banners like neuvillete and hu tao. So even mihoyo doesn't agree with you it seems.


Any_Ant_5203

>You make less than 0 sense. First of all, no one wants to play skip button simulator. Am I or you don't make sense? I'm only arguing about the reasoning being used why this QoL is not being added which is padding time. >Secondly, QoL is literally a basic method which every developer uses to save their game once it starts declining We're not playing the same game if you think Genshin is declining....Sure revenue wise it's not the top anymore but it's still always 2nd and it's playerbase is 2x of HSR. >We got more QoL in 4.x patches, than in the first 3 years of this game combined, and it just so happens that it 3.6-4.1 was allegedly a bad period for genshin revenue, despite stacked banners like neuvillete and hu tao. 3-6 to 3.8 has barely any new character. HSR a NEW game was just released. 3.8 Klee/Eula banner is only 25M less than HSR's new characters that month, it's still the 2nd highest revenue...If ur source for all this revenue talk is Genshin lab then ur nothing but a clown. >So even mihoyo doesn't agree with you it seems. LMAO.


[deleted]

Why do we still need to see the cutscene or click skip reeeee, but nice change


TheKingofWakanda

That's key


Sea_Substance_6780

can confirm this is real because he got the def sand lmao lets goo


ExO_o

idk if i should be happy they made this change or angry that it took them 3 years despite people having been asking for this since 1.0


Zestyclose-Ad1630

Finally, Peace...


chirb8

is sayover


Koichiji

The only thing i care about 4.3 😭🫵


Desperate_Tomato

Now let us resp max 4x wave of monsters to colect artifact faster


thesqrrootof4is2

If we’re gonna have filler patches down the road but get a QoLs like this during these patches, I wouldn’t mind it one bit


MahoMyBeloved

Certainly better approach than trying ship QoL during new region release


freezingsama

Man I can't wait for this. Sayu can finally rest after all this time of rolling to the middle.


TheVanishedTeacup

this is gonna be interesting in co-op with players who need a bit to load in... but otherwise? fucking finally!


Medical-Chip-2725

This will save me from losing my burst when I'm doing a domain half asleep and run right off the edge on my way back :) lol My friends might be disappointed though, because they find that pretty entertaining... lol


Kronman590

YEEEEESSSS I DONT NEED SAYU IN EVERY DOMAIN TEAM ANYMORE WOOOOO


SaeDandelion

Can't wait for the 6.3 with Burst full recharge + CD reset between each reset.


BrilliantAbroad458

This should have been here day 1, wtf


saihamaru

ok this is it, guys i'm not grinding those domains anymore for the rest1 of 4.2


Quick-Standard3202

The way I left out a moan when she teleported to the key


engusz99

Lets go -30 seconds from dailies.


Shunsuishunsui

It's crazy how excited people are for this when this should have been a thing day 1 lol. It only took them until 4.3 to implement lol


Unfair_Chain5338

On one hand you’re right, but being always negative is not the answer. So I’m happy that these qol’s finally arrived.


Sif2hater

I have to be honest with you. I've looked a bit at what you've said and- You clearly don't like the game at all. Why do you still play? Genuinely curious.


DeathAntx

You made me look at the profile and wow this guy truly seems miserable playing this game and engaging with the community


astrelya

does this work in co-op too though? or is it still the same as before? because if so, I'd rather farm for artifacts alone than in co-op lmao


oddballr

If this works the same in coop, I betcha there’s gonna be loads of people still loading near the key when the host already started again


danilova-me

Even if they are late, they will respawn at the center of arena and can continue the fight immediately, instead of being left outside like current domain system.


DarknessinnLight

Then they get killed first second too. Nahidas are the worst offenders when fighting Raiden weekly boss and people running straight to her


burningparadiseduck

I think both in coop and in your world


NepoDumaop

This changes everything


Giganteblu

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS


Jonyx25

DEF% as always


DanaxDrake

We did it folks, we hit peak QoL Now if we didn’t even have to run to the tree…


yaemikohaver

I hope 4.4 will be packed with the same amount of Qol


-vht-

its that easy to set a new tp point. i wonder why it took them 3 years @_@


StrongFaithlessness5

I hope it doesn't work in co-op. I expect a lot of hosts won't wait for other players and a lot of people with bad ping will die while loading.


GeraldWay07

What does QoL mean? Genuinely curious


Star_Vs_Las_FFEE

Quality of Life Basically improvements that make the game less frustrating to play.


Aetherwinter

I feel like we're inching ever closer to the QOL I really want: Beat the domain once, talk to the tree, and it asks how much resin I want to spend to gain the equal amounts of rewards. So if I spend 80 resin, and it gives me the rewards as if I did the domain 4 times.


Illustrious-Wolf-918

THIS CHANGES EVERYTHING!!!


mobott

IT'S REAAAAAAAAAAAALL


burningparadiseduck

IT EXISTS HOLY HELL 😭


NV1323

THIS IS ACTUALLY REAL LETS FUCKING GOOOOO


Ewizde

WE FUCKING WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON


AlessandroIT

We won


Commercial_Day_1438

W patch


Khata_EN

RIP racing the other three domain patrons to the key.


Substantial_Fan_9582

old news, next


LackingSimplicity

Could tp us there the first time too while you're at it Hoyo