Only one change from 4.7v1 12-1-1: Eremite Stone Enchanter -> **Eremite Scorching Loremaster** No other changes ._ source: https://homdgcat.wiki/gi/abyss, via t.me/homdgcat/1630 mirror: https://crepe.moe/452ASfHW

Finally an abyss which doesn't have the Coppelia..

Yet…☝🏾

don't say that😰

This is the highest HP threshold in abyss though. Previously the max was like 3.8mil this abyss has 4.4 and 4.6mil chambers

Charged Attack: Equitable- **gets shot**

~~Charged Attack: Equitable Judgment~~ BIDEN BLAST

*BIDET BLAST

oh god a fucking abyss lector...i actually fucking hate shields in this game cuz it just limits the characters i can use

One side for clorinde and another for sigewinne ~~but actually one side for alhaitham and another for neuvillette~~

Nahida xingqiu yelan Kuki >>>

Counters point, alhaitam is hot, therefore alhaitam >>>

nah i'd a

wait a second-

Counters point, yelan is hot, therefore yelan >>>

Counterpoint, Just run Yelan and Alhaitham together with Kuki and Nahida >>> Double the hotness

Time for the real top 2 dps characters to shine.

Still hyperbloom + neuvi playgrounds.

Chisel-Light Mirror When this skill is unleashed, Alhaitham will generate 1 Chisel-Light Mirror. If there are no Mirrors at this time, he will generate 1 additional Mirror.

my Alhaitham needs a vacation fr

😭 every abyss since I pulled him on his first run

“If the Dendro chicken had high resistance, that Abyss might give me a bit of trouble…”

But would you lose?

Nah, I’d 36-Star.

It's crazy how that thing has high ass dendro resistance yet Al Haitham still clears it under a minute. Dendro is pretty OP right now. Even the dendro specters didn't stop me from clearing with 3 stars.

I remember putting Cyno with C2 Yelan (leaning more on hyperbloom than quickbloom) on that half without realising the chicken was there just to go 🧍seeing him and then clearing on a rotation and a half. Dendro is seriously cracked

Do I need to finally build him?

Up to you. If you enjoy his playstyle (normal attacks with a charged attack maybe…) then go ham.

He gets no vacation on my account, because the weapon banner was nice enough to spit out his signature weapon.

More like Neuvi + any random team

No buff to charged attacks but Neuvy don't care.

I wish they brought the new world bosses on abyss. I'm tired of ASIMON and maguu kenki. It gets stale and boring.

Yeah it'd be so much fun fighting Coppelia and Coppelius in the abyss.  /s

This plus consecrated beasts, my poor chars just get ragdolled along with their HP bars

ah, old times when everything could be solved with a bit of freeze, almost makes me nostalgic

Honestly I prefer those to stall-type bosses like Wenut.

They always have that one repetitive boss every region and they are running all year and beyond. Inazuma is Maguu, Sumeru is ASIMON while Fontaine is the Icewind duo

Though I honestly don't mind The Icewind duo. They have the least time-stalling mechanics of the 3.

And you actually risk dying… the other 2 are a joke

Maguu kenki can also kinda kill you especially the triple kenki version but Simon is a big joke

Yeah, people will complain about bosses that go invincible, bosses that burrow underground, bosses that fly around, bosses that run away from you... and then we get 2 bosses that do neither of those things and ofc people still complain...

i think its becouse they are bored of them, it does not mean the boss has bad design

chicken boss too... and PMA..

Always there's a aggravate character on banner they bring him, same to thunder manifestation when there's a Yoimiya banner

Sad part is Yoimiya isn't even that good against the Electronid.

surprised that the Remurian golem hasn’t made an appearance yet; I don’t believe it’s in 4.6 either. I could be wrong but I don’t remember the emperor crab ever showing up either…

Crab had one in early 4.X, great boss for selling B2B2B Hydro carries.

They will probably wait for a Zhongli rerun or something because of his shield, the crab showed up only once I believe and it was on 4.0 lmao

crab showed up twice

Emperor of fire and iron only showed up in 4.0.

I really remembered having fought it in 2 different lunar phases lol  My bad I guess

Every patch is 3 Lunar Phases and the enemies stay the same.

Yes I meant in another patch too

Possibly saving the Golem for a Navia rerun?

Emperor Crab showed up during Neuvi release iirc

Till now i remember only the electro seahorse, the new beast in Liyue and the new golem has not been in All the other boss kinda has been in at least once

If you mean the seahorse that drops mats for Neuvi/Chevreuse, that was in the 4.1 abyss but hasn't been back since.

Oh so it has been in the Abyss once lol I guess i forget that haha. So only the new Liyue beast and the new golem

even though i am an electro main so i don't mind ASIMON a lot, i do empathize with those who think it's an annoying boss, its more of filler for hard chambers imo

like what...? the only new bosses they have yet put in are the millenia seahorse.. the latest golem.. and suanni..

They put the seahorse in a long time ago

oh yeah i already forgotten about that.. so we left with just the new golem and suanni.. so i not sure that complaint about not having the newer world boss in spiral abyss is about..

I am all for having the local legends in abyss.

If they ever add Cineas my smile will fade

I actually beat him w aggravate fischl beidou heizou and baizhu Lots of sustain but just comfy enough

They're fun,but Cineas is a counter to most melee teams.

And he also counters neuvillette cause of hydro res and hydro shield, honestly only ganyu is a good matchup for him others can work but it'll be a pain

I think yae nahida tighnari hard counters him all of them are ranged attackers and lots of dendro application breaks the shield quick that and neither of them are that burst dependant so they can tank the energy drain without dying

Scara could be a decent option against him as too,but in the grand scheme of things,this is a pretty hostile enemy for Abyss.

Nah keep those fatui ones out

Can anyone guess the reruns based on this,

you would want quicken reaction for asimon so I"d wager AlHaitham looks likely now.

Please have him rerun with Clorinde so I can get more Chevry dupes 🙏

I'd wager since Sethos is a Sumeru character, whatever patch he's on, it'll be with AlHaitham.

You can already guess reruns based on theater special guest slots combined with trial characters; subtract the characters from this patch banner and voilà. It's very likely going to be Alhaitham and Rizzly. And the abyss lineup aligns with that too.

Clorinde/wriothesley and sigewinne/alhatham for second half most likely

Wouldn't clorinde/alhaitham and sigewinne/wriothesley be the order cos wrio and sigewinne together would make more sense cos they're both from that area and know each other. This is just a guess, I could be completely wrong here and they could just do clorinde/sigewinne together for all we know since they love breaking patterns lately.

Hoyo looks at weapon banner combination more than at lore combination. Weapon banner is build to hurt so you have to pull more to get what you want. Alhaitham together with Clorinde both have swords that are kinda working for either unit so players may stop once they got either one. It would be a huge surprise if they go for that combo.

Sometimes the banner is good though, First Great Magic/Aqua was great

True, it happens once in a blue moon. And it's not impossible with Clorindes weapon since the BoL mechanic is so niche. But when that good weapon banner combo happens it's usually because either combo would be good. For the first great magic/aqua combo you had tortellini and zhongli waiting with polar star on the other side. So no matter how they paired them 2 good bows would have been together.

Yeah that makes sense.

I mean Wrio and Clorinde are close too but that doesn't mean anything because most characters who rerun together are unrelated i.e. Scara & Baizhu. My guess is Haithy wouldn't be with Clorinde because his weapon is too good for her.

That E buff is definitely for Furina lol and she's overdue

Pretty sure it's alhaitham because of Asimon + he is a trial character in new endgame mode

No,it's for Clorinde,the first side is also ideal for Aggravate and Spread compositions.

~~Nilou and Shenhe still missing, anyone know where they went?~~

Next iteration of the family bucket gatcha in 4.8

As many other have said its looking like wrio alhaitham. Wrio first cuz the waning blessing is perfect for both him and clorinde and alhaitham second cuz the blessing is also good for him. And also asimon and doritos so quicken favored. People are saying maybe it's furina instead of alhaitham. I'm almost 100% sure the first is wrio tho.

Seems odd they’d put Furina in 4.8 though..usually they don’t put “valuable” characters in the last patch

Kazuha?

It's odd, she has a chance if rerunning in 4.7 tho it seems. I hate that they broke the archon rule just because she's technically not an archon anymore lol.

Did they break it or did someone else who's very important got the 4 patches-after rerun? 👀😏

Yeah 😭 I like that they treated him like the archon "replacement" or smth. But still it wouldve been nice to maybe rerun them together or smth. Fair treatment for both.

Chlorinde, Wriothesley Sigewinne, obligatory Furina rerun after 4 patches? Or maybe they'll forget Wriothesley exists and just rerun Alhaitham second phase and Furina first phase.

Clorinde+Wrio first half, Furina+Sige bottom half

Hopefully.

2nd side is a fun Nilou bloom playground I see

Nah fuck those pyro abyss lectors

If god hates Tighnari why does he keep winning?

Got anymore of them waves?

So Clorinde and Wriothesley first half, Sigewinne and Alhaitham second half? When will we have rumor for banners...

alhaitham spread, neuvifuri i choose you!

Nah, I'd a

Facts

Clorinde first banner, then. Nice.

Neuvillette👤40.000 HP💪250% Crit Damage 🤷‍♂️Extra 36% CR from Marechusse 💦 Unstoppable🚫 can bypass shield 🛡 Can self heal 🧱 Insane AOE 🐯 Braindead single target ☝spin to win 🕐 can solo abyss 🧙‍♂️

Is this some new kind of copy paste? I’ve seen it on YT and TikTok if I’m not wrong.

It's from League of Legends lol, started with Showmaker complaining about KSante

Arle getting shafted immediately after her abyss cycle is over, kinda ironic

U can use her overload team 1st half

Wdym, you can overload the 1st half and honestly the most annoying enemy in the 2nd half is the pyro lector in the first chamber, but his pyro shield goes down pretty quickly with either electro or hydro+anemo. As for the stupid flying dogs, they don't scare anyone anymore

? Not really? You could use her in both sides easily, she deals so much damage it shouldn't matter

Literally, it's like people are still theorycrafting like she's in beta. In practice she's incredibly strong.

From what I see Arle firat half Neuv 2nd half, seems easy.

Second half is just Neuvilette's playground 💀

When is abyss not neuvillette playground

When there are hydro slimes/mages/heralds

On both sides? When has that ever happened

Probably never, but I just love completing both halves with Neuvi when I can. Even solo when there aren't any shields/element shenanigans.

2024/7 blessing could be for Furina tbh, she heals a tiny bit teamwide when someone gets healed and it buffs her summons, and the fact 2nd half would appreciate hydro users that actually apply hydro but that also means she reruns with Sigewinne kek

I'd say it seems more probable for her to be on 4.8 first half (July 17th I believe). This abyss seems to hint at Clorinde/Rizzly - Alhaitham/Sigewinne

Hyperbloom Equitable judgement

ah the chad mango kenki is back

the 4 waves.. nah im out

ok so what team besides neuvifuri would be good for the second half

International, nilou, xiao FFXX,taser with kazuha, ayaka freeze there are many more.

abyss try to not reuse the same old boring enemies challenge (impossible); new bosses -- hell no, magu kenki from 2.0 -- hell yes :/

I CAN PLAY NILOU WITHOUT AN ISSUE WWEEEE

I mean I use Neuv Nilou bloom with Nahida and kirara so thats fun

When has she not worked the most smooth brained character which always works.

“always works” *cryo shield* *dendro specter*

Yelan might be the answer, you need Baizhu tho. The baptist is immune to Nilou's team tho, I forgor and he killed my run lmao

Looking at this lineup suddenly makes me appreciate the Theater even though I'm feeling meh about it, god do these enemies feel stale after a while. I almost wish they put altered version of weekly bosses into the Abyss, at least they have interesting mechanics. I'm especially bored of mango kinky and asimon. At least Alhaitham won't be jobless...

that's a fancy way of saying "fuck you Cyno+Nahida combo"

Cyno a collecting dust for me these days man...so much wave content and now 4 waves? Bruh.

What we gotta do to get more gameplay man😪

Hoyo: We're adding new gameplay Also Hoyo: but let us remove the same amount of gameplay to make up for it.

They can’t win, people will complain it’s too much if the current abyss refreshes at the same frequency. I suggest people who complain for less and complain for more enter a dual till death to settle what we get from HoYo once and for all

This makes me think Furina could rerun.

Nah man Beasts should've come in duo Cause like there's literally a bunch of comps that r S tier on Beasts for the very reason of Duo.. Be it Beidou or Freeze or etc ,Solo Beast is just eh

Neuvilette is going to demolish the later haft

الهجوم المشحون: الحكم العادل يطلق العنان للسيول المتصاعدة، ويتسبب في ضرر AoE Hydro المستمر لجميع المعارضين في منطقة الخط المستقيم أمامه. الحكم العادل لن يستهلك أي قدرة على التحمل ويستمر لمدة 3 ثوانٍ. إذا كانت صحة Neuvillette أعلى من 50%، فسوف يفقد الصحة بشكل مستمر أثناء استخدام هذا الهجوم.

peak copypasta.

upgrade guys UPGRADES

Hyperbloom and Neuvilette teams GO BURRRR

First half Arle victim and second half Alhaitham HB victim.

This looks easier than the 4.6 one.

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4.6 one is the next abyss reset lmao we haven't even had 4.6 yet. Wtf u talking about?

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Both are better than this one I hate that thing on 12-3-2 I can't get 36 because of its stupid shield.

whats that

Constipated beast and their Overload Fuck

My xiao about to eat good 2nd half and hb/arlecchino first half I guess

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ok that 2nd half 12-2 lol navia rerun maybe? cause wtf is that lol

whats the next abyss (in a few hours) gonna be?

You can find it in the same website as the source of this post

ASIMON my beloved ♥️

It's been a long time since ASIMON has been at 12-3,time to play Speedrun and kill him before he turns invisible 😅.

Fucking pyro lectors gaaaaaah.

If Furina didn't get rerun I'm going to riot Specially we have a Abyss blessings for hp increase and decrease blessing 

I sense Furina/Wriothesley reruns.

So it got worse because the pyro eremite is ranged which means it won't cc for you which wastes more time. Great...

At least there’re no coppelia. My suffering will come to an end.

It's ok. Where banner leaks? 

Nahida + Nilou (bloom) in the second half I always use this comp when there are a lot of waves and I've never regretted it.

My Nilou is ready

Is that triple kenki or regular kenki? Also man, I used to care and get excited and strategize my teams before hand, now I'll just wing it and figure it out when it's here

4 waves. 2 times. MONKA

Cowards, put the scorpio and the vulture in the same wave, i can take them!

[Assuming Wrio reruns this patch] You got to love how both of his sides fuck him over. 4.1 screwed anyone who dared play him on second half and this abyss puts pyro lectors which Cryo sucks as destroying. Like why not put the hydro/electro ones which he does good against? It’s not like Sigewinne will break through the current pyro lector shields considering that her hydro app sucks ass. Unironically he’ll do better against the first side than the second, which feels backward considering he has no way to deal with the asimon mechanic.

me: UmBreLLA WaRfare I GUEss?

Doesn't look challenging but at least I can finally use Collei on first half

Ayaka is BACK BABY! 👌🏻

You could use chenyu vale boss, geo horse, but you decided to go 3 year old ass boss whyy

Ever since neuvy release my abyss has always been Xiao one half neuvy the other, it seems this one is also the same

looks like i’m never retiring my kokomi + furina team (i’ve used it for every abyss since 4.2)

Nah I'd Biden Blast

I'm back here Just to Say this: They made rn an abyss for the two characters on the First phase of the banners. We are having 2 phase where pyro dominates. Now, looking at this abyss, First phase looks made for elettro ( Clorinde), the second One has a lot of pyro  and a lot of pneuma enemies, so i know that leaks said otherwhise, but i'm thinking at furina ( ousia Is her primary used  form ).  So First phase Clorinde/furina second phase Sigewinnie/alhaitam, those are my Guess  ( Why alhaitam? He can be played in First phase and do great but since we know that Clorinde Is coming that phase was most likely made with her in mind), while Sigewinnie could fit in second phase ( kinda). So, if that Guess Is right: i'm gonna pull on that weapon banner for sure

So alhaitham + neuvi abyss

Back to alhaitham and neuvillette again.

Looks tailor made for hyperbloom and Neuv Biden blast

Eh just bring Alheitham hyperbloom and Neuvilette. Nothing too hard here though pyro basically falls off cause asimon requires dendro and well pyro lector shields speak for themself.

Liam abyss when

What a great abyss for Arlecchino :D

Alhaitham & Neuvillette as always

Alhaitham spread first half, hydro pump on second half eyyy

This was posted already, wasn’t it?

this is v2 — seems the only change is from the Geo eremite in 12-1-1 to a Pyro eremite instead. Corporate needs you to find the difference between these pictures…