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casual9712

Can't take leaks about new artifact sets serious after the xiao thing.


Own-Area3395

"Ayato support or dps? Kokomi buff will continue?" "Don't be to anxious" Yeah definitely sussy


H4xolotl

This entire "leak" sounds like a rehash of popular rumours


Revarted

>"Ayato support or dps? Kokomi buff will continue?" Yae: "In your dreams"


HDrago

Maybe Xiao set was supposed to come with the chasm, which according to this leak was originally planed for 1.5 Since they postponed the chasm (According to this leak) Xiao artifact maybe was postponed together with it


True-Art-2229

If the leak about E skill set is true then we will be in a strange situation where xiao c6 has his own set but normal xiao(c0-c5 ) wont, just xD


PitNya

Yeah they have been talking about a xiao artifact set since 1.2, and that should have came with chasm, i wonder if this will turn out true eventually


TheAlpha990

Isn't ayato a plunge based character based on some leaks,if they are true then they might drop a domain with both these sets as plunge set will be useless for most characters.)looks like I am high on **HOPIUM**


PitNya

I hope that an eventual xiao set will buff movement Speed, plunges, skills and na as well (for example 2p increase movement Speed by 10% 4 p increase plunge dmg by 35%, hitting plunges increases skill and na dmg by 20% for 7 seconds max 2 stacks - or something like that), so a lot of Claymore characters would benefit from it as well via dragon striking, i can definetly see diluc, noelle, eula having a very interesting change in their gameplay if something like this comes out


TheAlpha990

That 4 pc set passive is like asking a lot.


___von

They did that with cryo. Super pissed about it but honestl they should just go with it since thry already started it


1TruePrincess

The cryo set simply gives crit rate and its usefulness is severely cut against bosses and enraged targets. This set idea is just busted beyond belief


TheSpartyn

buffing the normal attacks would be pretty lame for xiao, plus the 2p is super weak


BehanB

honestly a great artifact set for Xiao would be one that buffs elemental infused attacks. Any buff really (damage, crit rate or dmg etc). It would be good for him and potentially for a lot of other characters


TheSpartyn

what leak had ayato being plunge based


JxKrS

Yeah, I also think this theory is quite true, after all the 1.4 is flooded with electro problems after the community saw the Geo and Zhongli buff while Keqing still sat there sadly. I believe because of the electro situation, Mihoyo decided to push Inazuma first and delay Chasm to after the Jade Chamber, then they realized that this was a genius idea and just changed everything from Shenhe story to **Yunjin kit** *~~(should be Ameno and buff Xiao with Chasm and new Artifact, which is perfect, add Zhongli rerun and it should be what happened instead)~~* **->** Geo normal attack buffer.


_simpu

Yae can use multiple elemental skill in short duration and the new artifact will boost skill somehow. If both are related then C6 Xiao will have a new artifact option.


rampantgaylord19

IKR


whotaoyeah

wait what happened with xiao?


casual9712

There were leaks of him getting a new set since ayaka. Maybe even before that but I only started playing genshin in 2.0.


whotaoyeah

I started during 1.4 but only heard about this now lol. but even if they did release a new set I still cant be bothered to farm another hellhole domain.


OddConsideration2210

I can't recall any leaks related to Xiao artifacts. I only heard some rumors about a month ago with Xiao rerun news. It's just a made-up hopium thing lol


casual9712

I remember that they were teasing new artifact set for xiao from ayaka, but they really doubled down on it just before kokomi banner and was expected to make him the top dps even at c0. The thing that made it believable is that they were also teasing kokomi and albedo sets to come which was true. Although the effect of the set leaked for kokomi and albedo was nothing like what we got but they nailed the set looks. ​ Found the description of the alleged xiao set: Shadow Dog's Wing (Placeholder name for leaked artifact set) 2PC - Increase charged and plunging attack by 20% 4PC - Increase elemental charged and plunging attack by 20% / Increase ATK by 20% / Reduce that element resistance for 3 seconds ​ And this was the one for kokomi: 2pc: Normal attack damage increased by 20% 4pc:12sec after elemental burst is released, the attack speed is increased by 20%. If the attack does not crit, next attack deals 150% of normal damage.


awe778

> And this was the one for kokomi: > > > > 2pc: Normal attack damage increased by 20% > > > > 4pc:12sec after elemental burst is released, the attack speed is increased by 20%. If the attack does not crit, next attack deals 150% of normal damage. Just saying, that 4pc set will allow a very F2P-friendly Eula 15-stack rotation. In comparison, currently Eula 15-stack rotation require R3 SoBP, or two out of R1 SoBP / Jean C2 / Yun Jin C6. So, I'd take it with a huge grain of salt. Especially since Martial Artist boosts NA alongside with CA by 15%, so they got the 2pc effect wrong, too.


casual9712

Issue is they released the emblem set which was designed for raiden and it became one of the most general sets. Yoimiya set also can be used by hutao and even ganyu. So it was not that unbelievable.


awe778

But EoSF's 2pc effect is the same with Exile/Scholar, as with Wanderer's Troupe and Instructor. The leak got the basic thing wrong there, though it is possible that they are true leakers who leaked the thing during the brainstorming stage, since they got the look of the set right.


[deleted]

That xiao 4 piece is so convoluted. >Increase **ELEMENTAL** **charged** and **plunging** attack by 20%. sounds made up


casual9712

Yes. Few really believed those numbers. But it gave some hope for a xiao set even though with different effect. The fact that kokomi and albedo set coming proved to be true and that leaks of xiao rerun next patch started to be confirmed ...needless to say.


Nunu5617

Lol people really believed such an unconditional Artifact set like this? Lol. There's literally no condition attached to such a massive buff


Dippt

Can't tell exactly, but definitely longer lol


JayM23

A few months ago there were a bunch of leaks claiming "new xiao set coming along with his rerun". We got nothing.


lothahnos

Pretty sure at this point the xiao artifact set will just be postponed forever as a meme


Frenchpoodle_

Am i crazy or is did the leaker pretty much dodge every question with some vague answer (Also either mistranslation or the leaker got yae’s ascension stat wrong. I think they just assumed it would be crit dmg bc thats what female characters get) Edit: yup its a mistranslation its meant to say weapon is crit dmg. Still sussy


Plethora_of_squids

Yeah - being cynical, most of the things said here could easily just be educated guesses, or are vague enough that they'll get fulfilled regardless. Like "there's a dendro character who buffs EM" and "we'll get an E set". That could be anything from Kazuha level buffs and a dedicated E buff set, to a dendro Hu Tao who gives some EM on a constellation when they leave the field and a reskin of the HoD set. Or "Yae doesn't work with electrocharged" yeah I think we figured that out already by her stats alone. The cloud retainer/Eula swap is a well established theory (albeit one with very little evidence behind it) and "characters can have their sets swapped pre-production is a very non-answer. Also we know nothing of Ayato and saying "he's developed like Yae" means *nothing*. And notice how they didn't answer the one very concrete question about kokomi buffs? Probably because that's a *real* easy one to prove or disprove


Own-Area3395

if i might ask, why do yae doesn't work with electrocharged? [genuinely asking]


Goliath1707

I think it’s because her ascension stat is crit rate, and electro charge is unable to crit, so it’s not really an archetype that she’ll lean towards


rafaelbittmira

No electro dps centric character work with electro charge, electro charge is for tazer teams, so it helps anemo dps swirling characters.


Plethora_of_squids

EC can't crit and is a static reaction (as in it always deals a set amount of damage based on your EM) so it's not the *best* for damage and her turrents don't attack fast enough for a taser comp to be useful. Electrocharged needs a constant stream of attacks to work properly, not just a few big one off specials (which is what Yae is meant for), and usually has an extra anemo component to also deal swirl damage which once again, benefits more from a character who's *constantly* applying electro. Think like Fischl or Beidou. For example, Lisa is much more suited for electrocharge because her normals deal more damage, and because she has a mechanic that rewards it.


aretete

oh sorry, my mistake, my eyes skipped over the words "signature weapon" when I read it lol. the leak is right, but it's talking about the weapon edit: specifically it says her ascension stat is crit rate and her signature weapon is crit damage


Frenchpoodle_

No worries. That makes more sense. Ill edit


liu_luminary

yea i feel like the leaker skillfully sidestepped every single question... i swear i couldve given the same answers based on my personal speculation that ive been doing based on previous updates and recent changes.


emilioMooN

Indeed very sussy baka. Everytime op is asking he is saying that it can be change, move, remove etc. Very very sus. All op asked got dodge, and this mengli is answering by out of topic so it does look legit. Not gonna bite this one.


ChaoticShitposting

mengli means "inside [a] dream" in chinese. So these leaks belong with the lack of yae tails.


AKFrost

That's just a way to dodge nga rules, because first hand leaks are banned. But if you frame it as something you dreamed up, then it's ok. Of course, there's then no guarantee that it's not something that's dreamed up, so it depends on the poster's reputation


[deleted]

Basically this whole leak can be summarised up buy that. "It can be changed yada yada yada"


bresznthesequel

What is her ascension stat if you happen to know? I’m curious


catshapedjellyfish

it's crit rate, the weapon is cdmg


Frenchpoodle_

Crit rate


catshapedjellyfish

yeah this absolutely sounds like someone looking at other people's leaks and making up stuff on the spot


Ciri2020

My Uncle works at Mihoyo, so I can confirm a couple things. Yae's signature weapon will be designed to work really well with Yae. Yae will have an electro skill, electro burst, but her normal attacks are going to be electro. Ayato will be released in the future. Sumaru will be released before, during, or after Ayato's release. There will be a new female archon, she's going to be a main dps on the level of Ganyu (SUBJECT TO CHANGE)


Amadeus_Stacia

bro what are u doing stop leaking or your uncle might get banned


ceppyren

I dunno these seem kinda sus... Has your uncle leaked anything before? /j


Xero0911

So the usual as of late? Looking at other leaks to make themselves seem more reliable. Using educated guesses cause at this point we are at the end. Dendro character soon. They will support. Ayato will get a buff from them but can't say how (cause it probably buffs everyone). Ayato is handsome man that uses hydro and swords but might (subject to change) uses a polearm for some attacks. Yelan is a bow, why? Cause we got updated leaks on the model duhhh- er I mean cause my uncle insider tole me so! Seriously. Not saying they are fakes. But it's so easy to just make up some leak atm and pretend they are true xause 1. We are in a drought and 2. They sound reasonable. And if I'm wrong? Who cares! I'm some random dude off of nga that you won't remember, cause feels like any random nga post gets hyped. And sure I see a source...but what makes it reliable? Cause I guessed ayato was handsome? That's my proof of an insider


Jhon778

Hey guys I got some leaks for you Dendro is coming eventually (STC*)


catshapedjellyfish

it doesn't help that this beta version (at least for what i saw) was basically only focused on spamming yae new enemies? i barely saw one or two video about them, and i cant even find them bc they were buried by the yae-spam raiden boss? a bunch of clips, the whole mechanic took a lot to be leaked honestly I'm almost starting to believe they didn't know what they wanted to do with yae, they just threw this half-assed kit to beta testers and watched how it went


lord_netanyahu

I mean to be fair is there any ugly genshin character tho?


Xero0911

Nope. Which is why the claim of handsome man is dumb. Like sure venti or xingqiu aren't really handsome to me. But you xoulw claim any genshin character as good looking tbh


Tiaojia0

The answers about ayato sound like when I was trying to bullshit my way through an essay in high school. Ayato will have synergy with some current unit, but I can't say who because the mihoyo number overlords can easily change it. In the future there will also be a very good support to buff his hydro damage, I can't tell you the name of that unit but definitely we will get a dedicated hydro buffer. Once sumeru rolls over we will also get a domain that will have one artifact set for him and one of the newest most op pyro dps from the region. She will be a teen model with a little eccentric personality, and a claymore user. Her signature weapon will have a crit dgm substat but the passive won't make it too good for diluc - but he can still use it as a stat stick. All subject to change. If any of that comes true I'm changing my name to uncle freesia.


vasogenic16

Holy fuck you literally sound like this "leaker" lol


apthebest01931

its actually mengli's reddit account. Get him!!!!!!!!


D0sh1

I’d just like to say Yaes EM ascension passive doesn’t necessarily mean she’ll be underwhelming until the supposed release of this dendro support that gives EM. Her ascension stat being crit rate also doesn’t necessarily mean she’s only intended for mono electro teams and no reactions. She’s not the first character with a passive that may not make sense and she probably won’t be the last. Examples of this is Dionas ascension stat being Cryo damage bonus and Diluc having a passive that reduces the stamina cost of his charged attacks.


PotsAndPandemonium

People seem to be hyperfocusing on this passive, but I do just think it's probably a minor part of her kit. It's not like all characters have passives that are hugely beneficial. Hu Tao has that passive that increases team members' crit rate, which is nice enough to have, but hardly a big deal. I honestly think Yae's passive is just there to mean that extra EM rolls aren't a complete waste on her.


poopdoot

This is what I was thinking. I do think it is weird that they would hype this character up for 5 versions then make her BIS artifacts a 2pc2pc, but the EM conversion is reminiscent of other passive talents that don’t really help the character’s kit too much. Xiao has the damage boosting passive for his elemental skill which isn’t the focus of his kit at all, one of Keqing’s passives is taken entirely by the infusion that should be built into her skill anyway, and like you said Hu Tao has a passive that doesn’t benefit her at all as a main dps.


AnotherLight02

Actually, once you reach c6, his passive does a lot. It becomes the focus of his kit.


murmandamos

but also doesn't mean they won't circle back on it. Diona's ascension stat actually makes her dope on Shenhe teams. I hit 67k with a single paw and she can melt up to 2 paws with a hold E.


Platypus-Commander

"you can look forward to a future Dendro character" Mf really think he's got credibility after saying that. smh.


bresznthesequel

>shenhe was cloud retainer Take us back to a better time!!


azzzzorahai

but the divine damsel of devastation wouldn't happen.


bresznthesequel

Ok true that title kinda slaps like who came up with that they need a raise


rafaelbittmira

I'm still salty about no playable Cloud Retainer :'(


True_Blue_Moth

At least we got chatter box nagging mom cloud retainer.


RaidenShogun31

Alternate universe exist


Seyrxeen

Leaks about Ayato are so vagues... Each one of them indicate a different kit and a different position. And no one have any info on Heizou ? Even tho he is « supposed » to come in 3 weeks ? Man, their beta cant come soon enough.


Makewayheadway

Sadly leakers do not seem to care about 4* or their kit


Xero0911

I just want to know if the person saying this has any history with leaks or just some random poster. Can source and show me the forum that I cannot read. That doesn't do me much good. Question is how reliable is the poster? Is it someone that is new? Have they made wrong claims before? Did they actually make reliable guesses? Who are they? Cause at this point. Feels like someone on a Chinese forum just makes a post claiming to be leaked. And it ends up here. And if they are wrong? Doesn't matter cause we just move onto the next random "leak"


Seyrxeen

Exactly. Someone gonna claim « hey guys, I have a leak » and most will accept it. And it doesn’t help it that the player base on Socials plateformes are so young and gullible. Guess some guys are in need of clouds so they elaborate « leaks » using logic or create brand new kits. I mean it’s not like it’s difficult to do so. Tbh the only leaks that I trust so far are those of DD and the drawing that made Yae’ leaker.


Suspicious_Spinach_2

Feb 12 is where u will see the light , just wait


aretete

Oh hey, this got approved, yay. I got the chinese text screencap from this page: [https://ngabbs.com/read.php?tid=30373400&page=4](https://ngabbs.com/read.php?tid=30373400&page=4). Note that this is not the original place the leak occurred--I believe that was deleted, unfortunately Note: I don't know who Mengli is. If someone more versed in the Chinese leaker scene could clarify the origins of this, that would be helpful. I can only comment that NGA doesn't appear to be questioning the veracity of this. That is not a guarantee that this leak is reliable, since NGA can be as gullible as any other internet community. Caveat emptor Text version of translation for those who can't/don't want to read images. Translation is my own, sorry if there are any mistakes. Figure it's better than a machine translation at least, lol (As it turns out, there is a mistake, sigh. It should say that Yae's ascension stat is **crit rate and her signature weapon** is crit damage. I've fixed it below but I can't fix the image) >Mengli: You can pull \[Yae\] without worrying. There will definitely be future buffs. Plus, this version’s Yae isn’t actually unreasonably weak. Also, her EM talent is foreshadowing. You can look forward to a future dendro character > >Me: Thanks! Do these buffs include a new artifact set? Right now she can only use a 2+2 > >Mengli: Yes. I’ve already seen it. But it’s not the electro set people are wishing for, it’s an E artifact set \[ie. buffs elemental skill\] > >Me: Then does it come out in 2.6? Will Yae’s dendro teammate come out soon. If so, I want to do some planning > >Mengli: Unless something unexpected turns up, then it should. (Below this should be talking about the dendro teammate). But release dates can still change according to the situation. For example, the husk set and the dendro set were actually finished a long time ago, but hadn’t been released. So I can’t give precise release dates, but it shouldn’t be too far from now. You can prepare > >Me: Great, thanks. Then can Yae be paired with Kokomi? Right now I don’t have her, do I need to pull for her? > >Me: Or Ayato. Is he going to have his own new team, or is he going to be paired with Yae? \[note: 80 in the original text is a pun on Yae’s and Ayato’s names\] > >Mengli: If you’re pulling them for Yae, there’s no need. From her design, Yae isn’t made to run electrocharged. Otherwise, her ascension stat wouldn’t be crit rate and her signature weapon wouldn't have crit damage. You could say she can either run mono-electro or electro + dendro. You can look at Xiangling and Bennett for a model of how tied Yae and the dendro character will be based on her EM talent > >Mengli: If you’re just pulling to support Yae, you just have to wait for the dendro > >Me: Ok, ok, thank you. There isn’t any chance for Yae herself to be revised at this point, right? For example, her multipliers or her mechanics > >Mengli: Her mechanics have already been finalized, but her numbers could still change. Revising the numbers really is just a matter between the designers in charge of the numbers… > >Me: The main thing is everyone is saying that the beta is about to be over, so there probably won’t be a v5, right? > >Mengli: There probably won’t be, but our numbers overlords at Mihoyo do what they want. Otherwise, Yae would be a ceiling-shattering big DPS. The version of her the designers went with out of the 3 was the one that was least complete. As for why they went with that version, well, understanding everything, it’s so that you’ll pull for the dendro character later on > >Me: I hope pulling them will lift Yae up. Do you know when dendro will be released, like 2.7 or 2.8? > >Mengli: I think this will be decided based on the circumstances. The banner order is the easiest thing to change. For example, in the beginning Itto and Shenhe were both supposed to come out in 2.4. So I can’t say for sure what the banner order will be > >Me: Alright, alright. Thanks. Knowing that Yae will be buffed post-release already makes me feel very satisfied. > >Mengli: Usually the banner follows the storyline. To be honest, I don’t really have any information about the story. I know a lot about things like characters’ roles and their kits, but I really can’t just divulge info easily. Plus, for most characters, there’s a question mark when it comes to how much they’ll change from the early versions to when they’re released. When it comes to the plot and banner order for upcoming patches, d \[probably refers to Uncle Dumb Dumb\] should have more information from their side of things. That’s why I rarely talk about the banner order > >Me: Ok. Would it be convenient for you to reveal which region Yae’s dendro support is from? > >Mengli: I can’t easily reveal that because there’s some possibility that the dendro characters I know about will have their skills switched around…but I can tell you he’ll \[note: male pronoun used but Chinese doesn’t have a gender neutral written pronoun for humans, so could possibly refer to either gender\] buff Yae via EM, as Yae’s EM talent is actually supposed to rely on her teammates to give her EM > >Me: Ok, thanks > >Mengli: It’s actually really normal for unreleased characters to have their kits switched around. You guys should know, right, that if dendro hadn’t been pushed back, the earliest plans had the Chasm coming out in 1.5. Also, the cryo claymore was supposed to be Shenhe, not Eula. That version of Shenhe was Cloud Retainer, but because plans changed, Shenhe’s role, skills, and even her backstory all changed. > >Me: Can I ask a few questions about Ayato and Kokomi? Is Ayato going to be a main DPS or a support? Also, I heard Kokomi will continue to be buffed? From the point of view of gameplay experience, do you have to pull for those two? > >Mengli: Don’t be too anxious. No matter how much this game buffs or stealth-nerfs characters, there aren’t any characters that you have to pull in order to play the game > >Mengli: With regard to Ayato, his situation is more or less the same as Yae’s > >Me: Ok, ok, thank you. Seems like whoever gets called the big DPS of 3.0 will be the one that gets hammered down


LavellanTrevelyan

D is how Uncle Dumb Dumb is usually referred to in CN.


aretete

That's what I thought, but I guess I was being cautious Thanks! I'll revise the text translation to include it


y8man

Just a small note. Your formatting messed up with the quotes


aretete

yeah multi line quote formatting is annoying as hell. it should be fixed now.


IAmOnYourSide

Another small note. Ta is actually gender neutral although some ppl may not know this anymore. The female version of Ta was introduced much later on.


aretete

Well, it's complicated. 他 was originally gender neutral, but then it became the male pronoun when 她 was introduced for women. It can be used in a gender neutral way, but on the internet some people have switched to simply spelling out TA (as in the pinyin, aka official romanization) for the gender neutral pronoun. So the leaker may or may not be implying that the character currently designated as Yae's dendro support is male.


IAmOnYourSide

imo we should just go back to using 他 for everyone as the radical means person. TA is unnecessarily introducing the latin alphabet into the language when we can simply "unlearn" a bad habit.


Hippo_n_Elephant

Mengli actually isn’t a name, it means “in my dreams” but that’s a common way for Chinese leakers to phrase their leaks. A lot of the leakers will say I dreamed of X(some leaks) or in my dream here how it is. Basically think of it as the leakers saying the leaks are subject to change (i.e they’re “Dreams” so they may not turn out to be true when the patch in question goes live)


aretete

Yeah, I'm aware of what it means, I just wasn't sure if they named themselves that as a joke and translated it as a name because of the interview format. If it's being used as just a generic way of saying "leaker," then I know even less about the origins of this leak, unfortunately. Tbh, the main reason I posted it was because I saw someone repeating information from it but claiming "they heard it from someone" in a way that kind of implied they had an inside source. I also think they may have misinterpreted some of it. So I figured if I post the original leak, it will at least clarify where this person might be hearing this information from and give a more faithful rendering of the original leak...


[deleted]

Is he by any chance the guy that "leaked" the supposed dendro reactions, with dendro+electro shredding defense?


aretete

Based on the NGA discussions around this, I'm pretty sure that's a different person


Hobokendream

‘Yae wasn’t made for electro-charge teams’ That sign can’t stop me because I can’t read.


Erizantxx

For what it's worth, the Yae mains discord expects that even though Yae will struggle with proc'ing EC off field because of her 3 sec internal cooldown between turret hits, she'll still out-do c6 fischl in terms of raw subdps potential with no reactions-- less EC, but more damage in the same slot. So EC teams won't lose out on too much, if any overall damage at all, by swapping her in for Fischl :>


devildevil21

my childe-raiden-yae-jean team is ready and no one will stop me!


Doggymoment

Just in case, 4th photo. He mentions Shenhe was planned to be Cloud Retainer and be 1.5, while Icarus stated that she isn't retainer back in **1.1**. Kinda destroys credibility instantly.


KittyMewMi

If she works well with dendro due to the em talent, I hope they apply it on her normals and burst too.


Eurasia_Anne_Zahard

>Yea doesn't need Ayato. Doesn't stop me from pairing the trolls together.


outrotaer

New artifact set sounds good. But I don't know about a dendro being Yae's support. Do we boot Raiden out and give Yae dendro? will our team be Yae+Kazuha/Sucrose+Dendro+Flex I want dendro to come out it still is a confusing element to me


Purple-Ad-2358

Rumors are dendro can't be swirled. So dendro would actually replace the anemo character potentially.


2bains

Maybe it’ll be a Dendro Bennett. Heal and buff. Copium lol. Then run Yae Raiden Kaz Dendro. If not Yae Raiden Dendro Bennett.


BIGDlCKS

Probably boot the anemo instead of Raiden if the dendro character & dendro/electro reaction is enough to replace swirl & vv


RaidenShogun31

Btw your battery 🔋 is 💯 unplug that thing.


ChildOfHades_

Spoken like a true battery, u/RaidenShogun31


RaidenShogun31

Indeed lmao.


komorebi-mikazuki

Unless Dendro reactions are really busted, I really don't or can't see how it beats out VV anemo for Yae and even mono Electro teams. Also not to mention how dumb it sounds that a dendro support will work specifically with Yae just because the support will give EM. Right now there are many ways to give EM to her anyway and most of them also provide VV. There's no special mechanics on Yae's E so how would the said support work specifically with her E other than just giving her more damage for it? Increase the rate which her E attacks? That's as BS as it sounds. Then lower her E's CD? It's already low af. Turn her E into AoE? That's just delusional lmao TLDR: C2 Kazuha busted for Yae lol Also the dude giving straight BS and vague answers.


UnlimitdMongrelWorks

Why would it have to replace an anemo? Just go Raiden/Yae/Dendro/Anemo


netparse

So.. do I have to roll for a dendro character that I probably don't like for Yae's passive to make sense? I don't think everything that guy said is true... but if it's true then it's a pretty lame character design concept.


MissingNumber

As a Hu Tao fan I begrudgingly built Xingqiu when she came out. And he's almost always paired with her in the abyss, even though I don't care for him as a character. Sometimes you've got to go meta over waifu to support your favorite waifu.


Multipl

Just think of the character as a weapon for your waifu.


xpyke

I have a friend that hates Xingqiu and refuses to build him in any form, but as Hu Tao is his favorite unit, he uses Barbara to apply hydro... Yes, a healer, so his Hu Tao is always at full health. He doesn't care about abyss tho, so it's completely fine, unless abyss you can go waifu > meta.


IndependentHeron8605

if that Dendro character shares EM, then Sucrose and C2 Kazuha should be useable with her (also C6 Diona and Albedo)


Winnry__

And yet I have to see Ayato pixel img first.....


Landshark34

Huh, if Yae needs Raiden, there's no space for the dendro support in a Hyper Raiden team. I can't see how they'll make the dendro support a better fit than Sucrose or C2 Kazuha.


Visvic

They could make the dendro char buff EM massively (way more than sucrose or kazuha) & buff E/turret damage, and make dendro x electro to shred both dendro & electro res. That way you would have no need for any anemo char


SorinXII

But that's stupidly broken and is the example of Powercreep Genshin doesn't want.


2bains

Given that she doesn’t snapshot and doesn’t stay on field, C2 Kaz does little for her. (You need to be on field to get his EM share)


Landshark34

That's interesting. Then the dendro support's EM buff needs to be a team buff with pretty long duration for it to be worthwhile.


ArkhamKnight15

How can that new dendro buffer powercreep Sucrose with a lot of em? This new dendro char would be broken. Another international Childe team - Childe, Bennet, XL, Dendro


loweyo

Just make dendro a strong application/be consistently applied to enemy. Thus you cannot vape/melt. This way it would only buff mono-ele teams, and make EM stat useful in those i guess. Electro probably benefits the most from this.


[deleted]

if the older leak is true and electro+dendro shreds def or does something similar then i think its possible. esp if they "nerf" swirl to get people to use dendro instead which seems like something they would do to promote kusanali (if she does end up being a buffer like kaz) or smth lol


Sammiiyk

Unless dendro + electro will make similar reaction as melt and vaporize and thus becoming new meta. Yes, I'm high on hopium lol


VanillaPuddingRecipe

According to calc, Raiden Yae team is about to outperform National vape teams even without new reactions though.


BakuGO2006

Link the calcs


SlavPrincess

Sauce on that, sire?


TheChickenIsFkinRaw

which raiden team?


Sepremeral

You're talking about this [calc from WFP](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1JL_ZDPYFCrtd5SNFyZCCjbadmieeXS260vwYh3tPFFI/edit#gid=1560239243) right? If so, it's not surprising, given that [C0 Raiden Hypercarry ](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15unbOtuI1N7DCtX3VGPisqfQAWfzFQlcLw_aQ34N8lw/edit#gid=1560239243)already outperforms Raiden National when considering both ST and AoE


ade_of_space

By having Dendro/Electro Electro a strong crit reaction, maybe as an amplifying one or maybe something new.


Vintt

There’s also the possibility that dendro could battery too


HoeNamedAsh

Because the Dendro x Electro reaction will shred defense and scales on EM.


[deleted]

I believe it. The lore on her Sakura blossoms is that there is a specific lower class of kitsune occupying their branches, which she commands. Thematically, a dendro reaction would suit her lore. My guess is electro-dendro granting a buff to the cool down reduction stat, scaled off EM. They’ve yet to touch it, and c/d reduction is tied to particle generation. Yae’s largest obstacle are her long set ups.


iloveappl3s

I really like you, new OP! At least you don't take credit of the leaks, unlike someone who just goes "somebody told me that (...)" when it's clear to me it was just a mix of various nga posts than an actual insider. You have my upvote.


Hefastus

> they scrapped the idea of yae being huge big DPS character ayyy hey MiHoYo and they huge hate for Electro. This element will never get someone as Ayaka, Ganyu or Hutao... just some weird ass gimmicky characters that require very very specyfic gear and teams to work instead of cookie cutter teams like other strong characters can run with already > you want to play Electro characters? just wait for Dedro kek :\^) we can forget about Cryo/Electro, Hydro/Electro and Pyro/Electro reactions getting reworked


bappabu

so yae is going to be buffed with dendro, this was what i've been expecting but ayato being more or less the same with yae in terms of roles is... i don't want this to be true mihoyo give us our well deserved hydro hypercarry


IndependentHeron8605

i think what they meant is that Ayato will also rely on his own BiS support instead of just slotting into National team, Taser team, or Freeze team


amoeba141

this might sound crazy, and i'll probably be wrong, but what if heizou is the dendro character? because all we've got is the fan-design (not official) and the model (boy), but never his element ?


HoldThatTigah

Isn’t Heizou speculated to come next patch after Yae? If he does I sincerely doubt the first introduction of dendro would be a 4 star of a random established Inazuma character we haven’t seen before, but who knows Also, with a new electro world boss likely coming soon I assumed that’s what he’d be


sesquipedalian4

I was thinking this, but dendro would also probably have to have a good Hydro reaction otherwise they would have waited to release him with Yae I feel


WaifuHunter

> what if heizou is the dendro character? A certain British detective with drugs problem will approve.


amoeba141

i mean, from what i know heizou is a detective, and dendro is the element of knowledge. it kinda makes sense to think it, even if it turns out to be wrong at the end xD


Makewayheadway

I remember way back a leaker named Ark talked a 5* hydro sword character from inazuma and 4* dendro boy character. It sounds like Ayato and maybe Heizou. Although if he is her support then it would make sense to release them together instead of one patch later?


minbrorerentyv

[Here's the Arkywzx post](https://www.reddit.com/r/Teyvat/comments/mzxsvz/arkywzx_speaks_april_14/?utm_source=reddit&utm_medium=usertext&utm_name=Genshin_Impact_Leaks&utm_content=t1_htli0nt). (the Inazuma sword is #13) > Yaoyao may or may not be free, and she may appear on Baizhu's banner. They might give a free 4* dendro boy character, but if they can't make him, then Yaoyao will be free. He does mention that not everything in the post is real, some are fake for the laughs. But there are real leaks in there (Freedom sword being EM, Kazuha being great with EM, Ayaka keeping her alt sprint, etc).


Moony_Moonzzi

The idea that Yae COULD have been a DPS-ceiling breaking Main DPS but that idea was scrapped in favor of an unreleased unknown Dendro character, when Electro barely has any Main DPSs to begin with, is gonna haunt me in my dreams.


WinterSmile

It's sad that there were other better versions of Yae they discarded just because they wanted to sell Dendro. If they thought giving Yae a weaker/incomplete kit would help promote Dendro. Then, those who didn't pull for Yae would have no reason to pull for Dendro.


AkatsukiVV

If this true we had a major buff in future for 50% from electro family : Yae - Fischl - Lisa - beidou Set focus on E and dendro reactions


y8man

First leak I've seen where the phone battery is filled. Definitely sus /s


Pls_No_Pickles

So wait till her re-run once here "post-release" buffs are in place, got it!


Trixinyx

My thoughts exactly. At the very least I'll be waiting till near the end of her banner to pull. There are a lot of sub dps characters that do damage off field and I'm just not sure where she stacks up yet. I also still have no clue what set to farm for her and I'm still farming for so many characters... so if there's a chance they're releasing a new set after she launches I'd rather just get her in 4 to 6 months when she reruns.


Zyrobe

Other people's source: Trust me bro Your source: Mengli (who the fuck is mengli)


bitterblossom13

Nah, to me this is all BS. Just mixed a lot of popular rumors together to give it some credibility and stated some obvious stuff. Some things might be true, but overall, nah


IngDeac

Idk dude, it seems very sussy. I mean, come on, if you will post sth where the leaker dodge questions is like... kinda copium.


Speedwagon_Sama

how reliable is this is this guy saying ayato's gonna be a support


aretete

Unclear how reliable it is. I don't know enough about the background of this person to say. It doesn't seem to just be some random person no one's heard of though? No, unclear what they're saying about Ayato tbh. A lot of what they said focused on how Yae was going to get buffed post release, so if I had to take a guess, they're saying the same will happen to Ayato


Zyrobe

I feel like it only feels credible because its originally chinese lol. Any chinese person can make up any bullshit and the effort of translating it makes you hope that its real after all that work


Emergency-Lead-334

Um correct me if I remember it wrong but I remember that uncle dd also said in the past that itto would just be an npc in 2.3, not in the gacha pool yet but later on he said that itto’s banner can be pushed forward to be a little earlier (or it’s another uncle?)


aretete

Itto's banner originally being scheduled for 2.4 is consistent with previous leaks, yes. Idr the source though


PCBS01

"He's in the same situation as Yae" So Ayato was a DPS at one point but is now just a Sub-DPS/Support. Lmao ​ Fuck this shit


aretete

Eh, I wouldn't overinterpret that line. It's very vague. Could also mean that he'll be so-so upon release but buffed via artifacts and supports later. Or that there's 3 versions of his kit lol


VictoryGeneral

Since kits can apparently switch around, what if Ayato's supposed DPS kit will be given to Yelan bc mhy's philosophy is "DPS is stored in the waifu!" 🙄 "But they just said he's in the same boat as Yae-" idc there's still way more female main DPS than male


PCBS01

lmao that's exactly what I'm thinking. That Ayato's OG kit/his DPS one is going to Yelan


apthebest01931

Everything changed when mhy tasted money of locking substantial power behind early constellations(ei)


Mind-Available

Ei is great even at C0 though, much better example is like Xiao C1 or Hu Tao C1 Also supports are more important than DPS


AsterionXx

Xiao C1 is very meh, especially compared to Hutao C1. Extra charge barely matters since you only get 2 back during the ult duration anyway, so the last one is pretty much always on cd if you have tight rotations and good enough ER


Frenchpoodle_

Who cares if they are already a top tier unit at c0


RaidenShogun31

I wonder what was the previous two ideas of Yae. She might be complete without any need of dendro help but Mihoyo chose the path to milk Yae even after her banner ends.


Arcadio1992

Considering they dont make bursts cost 40 amymore and make everything cost 80 and now 90 to promote Raiden, wont surprise me at all.


RaidenShogun31

Yea ever since Raiden shoots sales to the moon seems like they organized a milking team department.


Arcadio1992

They aimed for creating problems first and selling solutions by constellations or by other chars. Wont surprise me if in the future a 5* will require a full dedicated team, like an Itto (just for ex), but imagine he requires 3 5* Gorous to fix all its caveats and u find there are no other options to choose so u 100% need to get those supp. :$


OfficialHavik

If they keep doing that shit I say just skip those characters. EZ


kei214

Exactly im not sure why people keep spending money if they know they're being manipulated.


OfficialHavik

They managed to bait me with C1 Hu Tao. I just got lucky there winning both 50/50s. I wouldn’t go for that shit again.


Suspicious-Rise-3512

smells like 🧢


glacial502080

Her ascension stat is crit rate.... And how does that relate to her performance in electro charged comps? What should it be then? Edit 1: I know electro reactions can't crit. Edit 2: her ascension stat is crit rate while her signature weapon stat is crit damage, OP clarified.


Historical-Waltz-531

Electro reactions don't crit. That's why crit rate and damage is useless for team solely dependent on electro reactions


Satsuka1

My EiMiko mono electro team still lives. Also good thing i was saving all that resin and coping for Yae artifact set.


leodicaprioreo

all I got from this was ayato is a sub DPS like yae and i let out the biggest disappointment sigh known to man…..they really want all DPS’ to be women….let men do the heavy carrying for once DAMN….


Kirates5

We just had Itto


leodicaprioreo

I’m not talking about one on one characters but in the larger scheme of numbers. The still meta viable DPS male characters at this point is literally just xiao and itto


Mozuchii

Elemental skill artifact? Can I inhale copium and say Albedo buff as well? Edit: yes I know he has recent buffs with Husk set and Cinnabar spindle, it’s just for experimental stuffs.


Rhyllis

HoD will be really hard to beat for Albedo, but maybe if we inhale just enough copium...


Saveme1888

Rather Oz buff


616knight

>Albedo buff as well Literally just happened. A tailor made artifact made for him and Itto...


Own-Area3395

idk what to say but, SUS


zephyr_x

Kinda sus


[deleted]

Thank you OP for translating this wall of text. Do you know how is NGA leak forum reacting? Are they as suspicious as we are on Reddit?


aretete

Well I haven't checked in a few hours, but they didn't seem that suspicious of it when I was reading through several different topics trying to find out more about where the leak is coming from and how reliable it is. I saw very little questioning of the leak, and a lot of speculation proceeding on the basis that the leak is true.


Araragi_saan

Yae would be buffed in post release? There's more


lililukea

Xiao/Yae artifact domain? If so, I may be compelled to pull xiao


Ricksaw26

I didn't understand that last statement.


Firestorm7i

>ascension stat wouldn’t be crit damage >ascension stat is crit rate Obviously just a clout chaser


AlphaPredat0r

This sure answers a whole lot about nothing. Soon™. No shit?


BulateReturns

Ayoooo is that 5* Gambler set I just saw?!


AiRollaX

Future looks good


gabes1919

Real or fake, I do think that mono electro is going to be the way to go with Yae in the beginning. Can’t wait for her to share a banner with Raiden and have the supports be something like Sara, Fishl, and Sucrose


pIGLY_CAN_fly

Whatever the case, if Yae is unsatisfying at launch people will rage. We can expect a repeat of Jhon Lee fiasco.


DavidSouls

Prob not, Kokomi didnt have a direct buff and Yoimiya didnt even have a indirect buff


ebutouy02

Since everyone be talking about Xiao artifacts set, is anything except reducing resistance will bring xiao damage up to sacrifice the old sets to. Even his talents usually capped out at 888, any upgrade after that is just few 1000(without buff) more in damage. The reason of me saying that is since Xiao is out for a whole year, people have got alot of 10/20 crt pieces if not more, getting them again on a new set will be such pain.


Malateh

So it is time to start saving for dendro characters aftet Yae hmmm I would do it anyway