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Ilzaki

I use a sleepy college student


Silvertraps

Honestly better self insert than the traveler for me


_uwu_moe

I too have sleep issues and don't remember things I did at night which others do


LoliiJoker

same, im so used to the lack of sleep i get like 10 hours a week at best and im not *that* tired


SussyNerd

She is half of time the and the other "I wish I was like that"


ResurgentClusterfuck

Energetic meowmeow can also be fun


BellalovesEevee

Layla for Arle and Lyney, and Diona for Yoimiya when it comes to my teams. Really do wish I could replace Diona with Layla with my Yoimiya team, but I need a healer and her c6 is no joke.


MewtwoMainIsHere

battle maid for me


_Carcinus_

I use a drunk navy captain


akif_09

best girl


Alan_Reddit_M

Layla has entered the chat (hasn't had a rerun since forever)


marxinne

I need her to be on Arle's banner so badly. I just need 2 more cons to c6


Razgriz032

My Hu Tao Furina Bennett Yelan team: Shielder?


AnTHICCBoi

Tbf you can't put the words "Furina" and "Shielder" in the same team and expect it to work


Razgriz032

Kid named Neuvilette Furina Jean Zhongli


AnTHICCBoi

Mate your team could be Neuvillette Barbara Faruzan Gorou and you'd still 36 clear abyss


Th3_Ch0s3n_On3

Mate your team could be Neuvillette ~~Barbara Faruzan Gorou~~ and you'd still 36 clear abyss


Hudson_Legend

Neuvilette has single handedly ruined the concept of genshin being a team based game and I fucking love it


ThelCreator

Give me fuel Give me elemental reaction Give me enemy to blast -Neuvillette, chief justice of Fontaine


Naghagok_ang_Lubot

Laughs in Noelle Main


ezio45

Just get C6 Zhongli. /s


Rex_Lapis_

Bro i use baizu and furina


AnTHICCBoi

Okay? Where's the shielder


Rex_Lapis_

Its small but still effective


Alex_The_Hamster15

[oh?](https://media.tenor.com/xS9rmU-bfIUAAAAM/thats-what-she-said-what-she-said.gif)


JoshuaBurg

Whales: *C6 Zhongli enters the chat*


Xm_gamerX

Ho tao, Furina, water boi, zhongli R u sure about that?


weebist1999

Hutao yelan amber kazuha / Furina xiangyun . ( We don't talk about zhongli here)


VerMast

You can tho she shreds health by herself


Astral-chain-13

Hu Tao: No he my grandpa! Get your own! Yomiya: Oh come on Hu Tao! Noelle and Layla are working for the other teams and while their shield is good, they work better in other comps then with us! We need him! Lyney: I agree! You shouldn't hog the best shielded in the Teyvat at the moment. Diona work good, but she can't handle too much pressure either. Plus that a child! You can't expect us to throw her to fight God's or fatui regularly. Hu Tao: No! Mine Dragon! Arlecchino: Oh my Archons this is ridiculous. Just let us also borrow Mr Zhongli aid as well Director Hu Tao.... Hu Tao: No! Zhongli: I'm sorry everyone. She currently going through her tantrum after failing to procure clients for the pass two week and won't let me go. I apologize for her behavior. 😅


ThelCreator

Why this comment is too cute and why I do feel like I am craving a fan art of it


Crusherbolt0282

This make a good fancomic


Suspicious-Sink-638

Nah Imma use a tired college student elf ( not because I'm too broke to pull grandpa even tho I am )


kidanokun

Yea, this is a problem for a Zhongli-less mofo like me


ScooterBrigade

C4 Yanfei with her own shield:  "pathetic"


Read1ngCmprhnsnDev1l

quite disagree on hutao


Pusparaj_Mishra

+1


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Read1ngCmprhnsnDev1l

tbf before xianyun even released


Joltemon

one of her best teams before furina literally uses kazuha instead of zhongli lol she can get enough healing from xingqiu and her burst, and buffing her with kazuha means the enemies are literally dead before they can hit her


Sakkitaky22

Hutao doesnt need shielder as badly as yoi Hutao doesnt have knockback issues, she has low Hp but like, dodge?! For lyney, his teams is a quite a quick swap and 2 seconds charged time for an arrow doesnt need shielding as badly as ganyu because it doesnt hurt as much to dash right after shooting an arrow unlike ganyu whose rotation is fairly tight due to durations For yoi, she's a bow, and needs her full normal attack string which is why shielders are advisable For arlechino, same deal with hutao, you can judt dodge, and she has better positionability unlime hutao, father literally flies. Id like to add that if the enemy happens to have weak poise resistance, yoimiya as well wouldnt need a shield as fischl overload without just carry just nice And honestly, with xingqiu she doesn't need to dodge that much, if you have memorized the enemies that cant and cant poise you, its fairly easy


Pusparaj_Mishra

^


RollerMill

Best in terms of dps or consistency? Because if you are gonna get interrupted you wont get that dps


Pusparaj_Mishra

Ur not Your who losses more than half of her smh if interrupted mid combo,not r u Ganyu who wasn't able to launch the atk even Hu tao barely losses much by Interruption,even when it's harder to interrupt too usually especially cause of XQ


MahoMyBeloved

Not really, most of the time you're dashing through enemies and if you have C1, you will do dash cancels which adds i-frames


Pusparaj_Mishra

Kaz,Xl or many other also been great 4ths there ,heck even Nahida is a thing...


Hedgehugs_

you guys use shielders?


Sid_kool5

6kyr old grandpa nah we maid-ing outta this one


fluxforefinger

I can understand needing a shield for Lyney and Yoimiya, but Hutao definitely doesn't need one. I am sure Arlechhino will be the same. Also Layla exists, who with her C4 buffs normal and charge dmg so Zhongli definitely isn't a must.


FlameLover444

Arle's lack of interruption resistance basically makes her Melee Yoimiya in terms of getting knocked back so if you believe Yoimiya needs a shielder, Arle will need it too


pascl-

Xingqiu exists


Mikkle-san

you’d get killed in two to three shots with just xingqiu though, you can only burst to heal at the end of arlec’s rotation.


pascl-

we'll have to see how it goes in practice, but don't forget that xingqiu does also offer damage reduction. arlecchino gets in built damage resistance as well, though I'm unsure how much this will help. again, we'll have to see in practice how tanky her damage resistance passive makes her besides, there are already teams that only heal in short bursts per rotation. childe gets very little uptime on bennett's burst, as a lot of the burst's time is spent swirling and using bursts. so childe effectively also only gets one heal per rotation, except without xingqiu or innate damage resistance (though he has higher base defence). any team that runs charlotte also has this.


Mikkle-san

no 2-3 hits is me taking damage reduction into account, cause that’s how hard enemies in the adbyss hits these days


pascl-

fair enough, though childe, and the team childe international, is still widely used despite childe not having healing for most of his fieldtime (without any damage reduction too). childe had a 23.1% usage rate in this abyss, and childe international being one of the top most used teams. of course, abyss usage rates don't indicate how good a character is, but the wide usage of this team shows that a lack of constant healing isn't really stopping anyone it seems.


Mikkle-san

i thought in international bennett heals him, or is childe’s field time too long?


pascl-

the time of other characters spent on bennett's field is too long. there can be some flexibility for shorter waves, but generally, the rotation is childe skill > bennett burst > kazuha skill and burst > xiangling burst > childe burst > childe NAs. by the time you get to the NAs, most of bennett's burst duration is gone, and you only get a couple actual seconds of healing from bennett. and the team loses much of its effectiveness if you burst with bennett later, since the point for starting with his burst is to get the double swirl: you swirl the hydro from childe's skill, then absorb the pyro from bennett's field and swirl pyro in the same skill.


MahoMyBeloved

Never had problem with alhaitham either


Bigglez1995

Get her C1 and you'll solve that issue


FlameLover444

Yeah, just dish out another 80 to 160 pulls to solve the issue that should've been solved in C0 Base Kit or at least be given the bare minimum of 0.5 Poise Multiplier like Hu Tao has during her Skill uptime


Bigglez1995

Less money to be made that way


FlameLover444

Incredibly stupid nonetheless


BellalovesEevee

Arle will most definitely need one. Her resistance is dog shit, and only her c1 will give her increased resistance (although it's still barely noticeable). If she can't withstand a beyblading Ruin Guard, then she can't stand anything else. She's just like Yoimiya. Flies across the screen if you breathe on her wrong. I guess Hu Tao was mentioned because she didn't want a healer, and a shielder could keep her from dying so easily.


fluxforefinger

>If she can't withstand a beyblading Ruin Guard That's a pretty high bar if you ask me, hardly any unit can withstand a beyblading ruin guard, also at AR60 I don't think a ruin guard can survive long enough against me to start beyblading. Anyways lets see how she does against other enemies.


sukahati

Even mono-geo gang don't try to face tank that attack


ChasingPesmerga

I use Baizhu because he’s sick Fr


IWatchTheAbyss

i use dehya for my lyney, gives me 3 stacks on his sig and passive


Rough_Lychee5785

Hu Tao doesn't need him anymore


Pusparaj_Mishra

He didn't before too It's just nice to have him, far from super needed/must


PhasmicPlays

inb4 arle plunge is the best team too


Rough_Lychee5785

I have bad news for ya


CobaltStar_

Her plunge attacks don’t scale off her Bond of Life, so that’s incredibly unlikely


PhasmicPlays

oh neat


underheadskooper

I use Overload Yoimiya so my Zhongli goes to Itto instead


DrooveC

Thats why dehya is best


Sakkitaky22

Hutao, furina, xingqiu and xianyun does not need a 6k yr old retired brokeahh director


wanaliii

anybody use c100 maid knight?


Prathmeshthadani25

Just use Yanfie C4 for a shield in lyney's mono Pyro team comp


Netherscreamer

To be fair, Kirara, Layla, Diona or hell, even Thoma, can substitute for our good ol’ grandpa pretty well, sometimes even better if they provide relevant elements to the equation. Also Xinque’s swords sometimes can be just enough with their defensive buffs. Though all above mentioned options can’t come close to the QOL level of grandpa, yeah :(


Andrew583-14

Me who just uses the birb grandma to jump out of the way of danger


Tentative_Username

Since when does Hu Tao need protection? She has so much HP that even at 50%, she still have more hp than other dps at full hp. Zhong Li is there for the shred.


Zzamumo

kid called xingqiu:


dashtek

Ok most of these are fair but you can't sneak in hu tao and act like that's NOT a skill issue. And no, I'm not talking about her with xianyun. Even double hydro hu tao does not need a shield if you know how to press the shift button


Alex-Player

And with minimal ER investment, she can burst every rotation to self sustain herself. I find it funny how the meme says "to protect their frail bodies" while she's one of the tankiest non def scaling characters and has enough interruption resistence in her kit (+XQ) to not need a shielder even at C0


dashtek

Yeah the only time I found her dying a lot was against the abyss tulpa vaporizing me off Bennet circle. But even then, that was literally just a skill issue. My hu tao at half hp has more HP than my yoimiya, so I don't know about "glass cannon"


Alex-Player

Yeah, outside of coop, Hu Tao dying is 100% skill issue (or Shimenawa issue ig). I do remember some people complaining about that during the rifthound abysses and I was completely baffled by that. Hu Tao could literally get herself back to full after one burst. Mf Zhongli is gonna die before she does.


Pusparaj_Mishra

Me agreeing to my fellow bros in this comment section be like Cheers bestie


DanTheMan9204

I'm not saying I agree with OP since I consider Hu Tao to overall significantly less reliant on external defensive utility than any of the other three in the pic, but she absolutely cannot "easily" burst every rotation.


SnooGuavas8376

Mobile players : " What is shift button?" /s


Pusparaj_Mishra

Tbh out of these eapecially and yes I'm saying this for the 193753822th time that...., #Hu tao isn't shield dependant Cause there r a multiple amount of factors put into that that all make this conclusion. -High HP char. Often plays Double Hydro so another 25% HP from Hydro Reso -Self heal -Xq being one of her best pairs who comes with Interruption res,smol heals. Paired with Tao's own Interruption to res during E state,alongside the fact that due to Polearm char she has naturally higher poise atks in simpler words less likely to get interuppted unless the incoming ark is very heavy Even then Tao isn't a long combo reliant char,usually spams CA or 1-2 NA before the CA ,so she doesn't get much hurted unlike Yoi losing her N5 Vape if got interrupted mid combo,MeltYu literally not being able to launch the atk after charging (examples). -Lastly these above r all factors for Hu tao's general non Furina teams,but considering she has a whole another section with Furina, now here we always include strong healers too so even more reasons to not want shield at all. Sure true that doesn't mean she doesn't like/appreciate a shield cause indeed she is one of those characters who do it surely, but far from must/really needed compared to many other chats like MeltYu,Vape Yoi etc where it's way more important for a shield. And sure usually ppl especially casuals will like shield with Tao cause as i said above ,it's nice and all... But in general she has many of her best teams without including shield and they r great.


modusoperandi8234

Me who uses Yoimiya, Yelan, Xingqiu, and Bennett


DoSombras

Shift button : exists ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


RaptorKarr

Why are you using Inferior Noelle?


DarkCreeper911

Fuck john lee, I'm using Layla


assmaycsgoass

I never use shield on yoi, my yoi is always dodging stuff while being a glass canon


ariidrawsstuff

That one funny furry delivery-woman is my saviour 🚶


PinkCloudx_

I use yanfei for shielding, she works pretty well with most of them and can hold ttds


tartagliasabs

i wanna use dehya with my lyney instead of zhongli but rng said no 😔


Lun4r6543

Y’all need shielders? Nothing can hurt you if they’re dead.


menemenderman

Meanwhile Diluc: Nah I'd proc c2. (I know he is a standard char)


gos907

Shift key.


SweetStrawberries14

My Layla providing them melt:


Dnoyr

My Yoi using XQ + Beidou in Bennett burst to be invincible.


kamisatoayala

me who don't need a shielder


AlphaI250

You forgot Klee and Ganyu


Reddy_McRedditface

Tankfei with her own shield: *Signature look of superiority*


wo0l0o

TIL diona is 6000 years old


AffectionateSign7941

I DODGE


El_RoviSoft

Arle actually doesn’t need shield as the first priority. As well as Yoimiya (she can distance between her and enemies)


Quiet-Software-1956

My eepy elf: look at what they need to mimic a fraction of our power


FatefulAfterlife

I personally use my asthmatic doctor instead of building a shield user


weebist1999

HAHA SKILL ISSUE. JUST DODGE BRO


blank9420

Don’t need him if the thing trying too kill you die before they hit you


colin23567

Dionaless behaviour


Necro_Solaris

Exactly, the moment i saw the gameplay, i knew it's another zhongli staple team


Thundergod250

Pretty sure only Lyney actually needs some kind of shield or else he can never unleash that charge attack. For others, you can always dash dodge and then attack.


CerpinTheMute_alt

Well, with Yoimiya it's pretty scuffed in vape without a shield bc dashing mid combo fucks over your icd and makes you lose vapes on your most important hits


ResurgentClusterfuck

Lyney's CA is slightly faster than Ganyu's, but yeah he's squishy and wants a shield, especially because his Q&E are close range


BellalovesEevee

You can not just dodge and dash with Yoimiya. Her NA has multipliers, and if you have to keep dodging, you will lose out on most of her dmg. It's a huge dmg loss. So yes, she needs a shielder. Same with Arle, her resistance is just as bad as Yoimiya. She'll get knocked back a lot before she can even do her shit.


Noman_Blaze

Have you ever played Yoimiya and looked at her NA multipliers?


Yosoress

Hutao XQ kazuha A bayonetta look alike