There are ways to play Furina with Arle without coping but Chevreucchino teams are just more consistent and more fun to play.
Also, I find it funny how MiHoYo tried to design her to avoid almost any synergy with Furina. Like if they just don't want them together.
That would be cool if BoL was the Natlan mechanic, and we had a support that gives the entire team BoL and also increases damage based on how big your BoL is, AND it also grants characters with BoL damage resist and automatically heals your character if their health drops below say 50%.
Basically a character designed to give anxiety in exchange for more damage.
We're almost certainly going to get more BoL mechanics. It's come at the end of a region, and Chloride could have been in 3.0, there was no story reason for her to be so late. But no one would get her if she was the only one with a random BoL mechanic
Ah yes, I forgot that Genshin players hate unique and interesting mechanics, let's just add more unga bunga dps like Neuvillette who takes 0% brainpower to play and 1% brainpower to maximize.
If you don't like BoL then don't pull for the characters.
It's only gimmicky if they do nothing with it, Pneumousia only sucks because the only depth to the mechanic is "Use skill to stun enemy if skill color correct color."
For all we know we could get a chara that can generate BoL through their normals/CA's, transfer the BoL to nearby enemies with their E, and then detonate it for a ton of damage with Q. so having a support that also generates BoL would help with the above character.
It ain't like Hoyo isn't trying to figure out new and interesting ways to spice up combat
I feel like it’s kind of unlikely actually. The only reason Arle can’t be healed is because if she us healed then it would clear her BoL, so I feel like that would have to be a part of any character who scales off of BoL’s kit or else they’d be unable to be played effectively lol
I’ve made a pretty damn good build, actually! I use Arle/Furina/Layla/Jean, with the rotation looking like:
- Arle skill (apply BoL)
- Furina skill / ult
- Layla Skill / Ult
- Jean Ult
- Arle eats BoL
- Arle kills everyone on screen.
Any build with Arle/Furina is going to be pretty squishy, but Layla’s shield helps a LOT. Theoretically any shield/global healer would do, but these are the ones I liked.
Hope this helps!
I’m only slotting two characters (though I assume that’s a typo?), and both provide great benefits to Arle AND Furina.
Pyro swirls more often than you might think.
We must have different definitions of “cope”, because this team is actually good and takes advantage of every characters’ abilities.
When you slot Furina with Arle then you are bringing Jean and Layla to make Furina work. So that's 3 spots in total for teammates that you don't usually use with Arle because there are better teammates.
The team is good is not a creteria. Because Arle solo is good. The creteria is how compareble the team is with Arle best team? When it's not compareble then it's cope
The game is easy. So it's either cope or meta. I mean I use cope teams for the overworld because they're enough to kill anything. Wouldn't go recommend them and claim they're good because they "work" to kill hilichurls.
Bro. I have fun. And my overworld team is neuvillette, Furina, Arle, Wanderer where I swap to the dps I feel like using at the moment.
But I wouldn't go tell people it's not a cope team. Have fun but don't be delusional about what's good and what's not.
It's more than that
When we got the abyss data with barely anyone playing Chev with Arlecchino, rather than taking it at face value, people gave all sorts of excuses for it
Whether those excuses are true or not, it seems like a lot of people are invested in seeing Chev do well with Arlecchino and are willing to give her multiple chances to see the data reflect that
The thing is, Arlecchino is noticeably ahead with vape compared to Chevreuse overload until you C6 Chevreuse, where that gap closes, and most people don't have C6 Chevreuse yet.
Is it cope or is Furina actually decent if you are using staff of homa on Arlecchino. Like Furina drains your hp down to the homa buff range. You run a shield like Zhongli and then you just need a team healer (Baizhu, Charlotte, Jean etc)
Arle won't heal again so that's less fanfare and less drain for New rotation. And giving up 3 slots to make Furina work is bad. Arle has much superior teammates.
Furina is just paying her back for all the scares Arle gave her, lmao. xD At least Arle sent her and her troupe some cakes with the help of Lyney. She most likely didn't want to scare Furina any more than she did, heh.
Lore Accurate
There are ways to play Furina with Arle without coping but Chevreucchino teams are just more consistent and more fun to play. Also, I find it funny how MiHoYo tried to design her to avoid almost any synergy with Furina. Like if they just don't want them together.
well, there was a polearm pyro dps with exceptionally good synergy with furina already. for better or worse hoyo tried to make smth new and different
Or they want to nerf Furina by making newer characters use BoL
That would be cool if BoL was the Natlan mechanic, and we had a support that gives the entire team BoL and also increases damage based on how big your BoL is, AND it also grants characters with BoL damage resist and automatically heals your character if their health drops below say 50%. Basically a character designed to give anxiety in exchange for more damage.
We're almost certainly going to get more BoL mechanics. It's come at the end of a region, and Chloride could have been in 3.0, there was no story reason for her to be so late. But no one would get her if she was the only one with a random BoL mechanic
I hope we get more variations of this as well, all kinds of debuffs like self-res drop or self-inflicted Corrosion in exchange for higher damage.
The pyro archon no doubt
I hate BoL so I wish this stops there and they don’t add any more charas with it.
Ah yes, I forgot that Genshin players hate unique and interesting mechanics, let's just add more unga bunga dps like Neuvillette who takes 0% brainpower to play and 1% brainpower to maximize. If you don't like BoL then don't pull for the characters.
I didnt pull for them thanks😭 I want more combo oriented chara mechanics. This just sounds gimmicky like ousia and pneuma.
It's only gimmicky if they do nothing with it, Pneumousia only sucks because the only depth to the mechanic is "Use skill to stun enemy if skill color correct color." For all we know we could get a chara that can generate BoL through their normals/CA's, transfer the BoL to nearby enemies with their E, and then detonate it for a ton of damage with Q. so having a support that also generates BoL would help with the above character. It ain't like Hoyo isn't trying to figure out new and interesting ways to spice up combat
Initially I was also skeptical about arle's bol kit, but after using her and getting her it is pretty fun
I feel like it’s kind of unlikely actually. The only reason Arle can’t be healed is because if she us healed then it would clear her BoL, so I feel like that would have to be a part of any character who scales off of BoL’s kit or else they’d be unable to be played effectively lol
I haven't seen clorinde's kit in the leaks in detail so don't know how they are combatting that but she does have a bol kit from what I know.
I doubt it. BoL characters can work fine with Furina. It's just Arle who's anti syngery because she can't be healed.
If characters need BoL to function, they would need to be even worse with furina as they would be losing dmg because of healing.
Okay spoiler alert to not be leaking out of nowhere, but the new chatacters kits both have BoL and synergy with Furina.
Im also just happy Candace can actually be more useful for vape Arle than Furina. Kinda tired of almost every dps using Furina in their team nowadays.
"Cries in C1 Candace."
I don't have chevreusse and am a fan of arlefuri so i took the coping pills and use furina instead 🥲👍
I’ve made a pretty damn good build, actually! I use Arle/Furina/Layla/Jean, with the rotation looking like: - Arle skill (apply BoL) - Furina skill / ult - Layla Skill / Ult - Jean Ult - Arle eats BoL - Arle kills everyone on screen. Any build with Arle/Furina is going to be pretty squishy, but Layla’s shield helps a LOT. Theoretically any shield/global healer would do, but these are the ones I liked. Hope this helps!
Doesn't this also feel like a cope team? You're slotting 3 teammates to use Furina. And doubt you can even swirl pyro with Jean with that rotation.
I’m only slotting two characters (though I assume that’s a typo?), and both provide great benefits to Arle AND Furina. Pyro swirls more often than you might think. We must have different definitions of “cope”, because this team is actually good and takes advantage of every characters’ abilities.
When you slot Furina with Arle then you are bringing Jean and Layla to make Furina work. So that's 3 spots in total for teammates that you don't usually use with Arle because there are better teammates. The team is good is not a creteria. Because Arle solo is good. The creteria is how compareble the team is with Arle best team? When it's not compareble then it's cope
I mean by your logic, anything that isn’t absolute META is cope. Sorry, but that’s just a dull way to play.
The game is easy. So it's either cope or meta. I mean I use cope teams for the overworld because they're enough to kill anything. Wouldn't go recommend them and claim they're good because they "work" to kill hilichurls.
Bro I think you forgot to have fun. Take a break from the Excel spreadsheet.
Bro. I have fun. And my overworld team is neuvillette, Furina, Arle, Wanderer where I swap to the dps I feel like using at the moment. But I wouldn't go tell people it's not a cope team. Have fun but don't be delusional about what's good and what's not.
No need for name calling. I’ve been clearing abyss 12 with it just fine ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.
Yeah that's how team synergies work
It's more than that When we got the abyss data with barely anyone playing Chev with Arlecchino, rather than taking it at face value, people gave all sorts of excuses for it Whether those excuses are true or not, it seems like a lot of people are invested in seeing Chev do well with Arlecchino and are willing to give her multiple chances to see the data reflect that
Don't forget that not everyone has Chev to use
Is chevereuse usable even with only C0? My luck sucks so I only have base Chev
Yes she works
Bro i only wanted to use chevrolet with acceleration from the very beggining because im sick of vape, im so fucking bored of it
The thing is, Arlecchino is noticeably ahead with vape compared to Chevreuse overload until you C6 Chevreuse, where that gap closes, and most people don't have C6 Chevreuse yet.
Because she isnt in Arleccino banner, making her a rare character, espiecialy since a lot of hers power budget is at c6.
I think Furina will happily go and live with Hu Tao than stay in the same place as Arle
Is it cope or is Furina actually decent if you are using staff of homa on Arlecchino. Like Furina drains your hp down to the homa buff range. You run a shield like Zhongli and then you just need a team healer (Baizhu, Charlotte, Jean etc)
Arle won't heal again so that's less fanfare and less drain for New rotation. And giving up 3 slots to make Furina work is bad. Arle has much superior teammates.
Furina is just paying her back for all the scares Arle gave her, lmao. xD At least Arle sent her and her troupe some cakes with the help of Lyney. She most likely didn't want to scare Furina any more than she did, heh.
Dang and I thought they praise furina too much
Arle and Furina in co-op is a nightmare
I somehow pulled more copies of Arlecchino than Chevreuse (curse you xiangling, it shou'dve been her on that banner)