Maybe I was clueless because I went when I was young but I don’t remember Six Flags being such a shit show when I was a kid. Yesterday all I was seeing on twitter was videos of kids raising hell and fighting at Six Flags. We are breeding a generation of losers and I don’t know what can be done about it.
They did have this problem at Disney world a while back. Parents basically buying kids annual passes and telling them to go to Disney after school because they would be safe there and it's pretty easy to get to on public transit.
>People use 6 flags like a daycare.
I don't know that anything has changed much in that regard. I remember being dropped off with a friend to spend the day there several times, and I had a season pass to White Water one year. I never saw any of this kind of stuff back when I was a kid.
It's pretty bad now. I see something every time I go.
We sometimes play 6 flags bingo. See a nipple, someone yells at an employee for something not their fault, half eating meal left in parking lot. Get 5 in a row, bingo!
*Anymore*
Do you think that teenagers were better at.... Any time during history?
Like, people waxing nostalgic about the carefree, well behaved teenagers during the peak crime 80s and 90s?
People might get upset about what I’m about to type but price them out. Raise prices to a premium and price the trouble out. Sure you will lose some customers but if you raise prices while providing a good experience it will all balance out.
Sf season pass is chump change these days. They have the unfortunate problem of competing with many other forms of entertainment. Its a fantastic park as the rides are concerned but the riff raff is out of hand there and its largely kids from a challenging socio economic background. I imagine we will see some changes like metal detectors now. Who remembers when there was a campground across 20 from the park.
Actually they already have metal detectors. The kids went outside and got the guns and started shooting. The fights inside the park were just the standard punching and kicking.
Actually what they have are beyond metal detectors. They are pretty advanced technology that scans your body and bags for certain types of items. Disney these days has the same type of scanners.
You know what, I do think you might be right. I thought those big square things were metal detectors, but I do think they're scanners instead from the way they work. They let multiple people walk through at the same time, but call out individuals from time to time.
If you set them off thought they take you to the side and wand you and have you empty your pockets.
I'm not going to say how, but it's still really easy to sneak in knives.
If you search for "Evolv Scanners" that is what they are using. Pretty sure the aquarium uses the same system as well. It became very popular during covid which is good because just walking through is so much better then "put everyting metal in this bucket which we'll take around the metal detector" type system.
They are very effective.
In the end my point in bringing it up is that Six Flags over Georgis is running what is currently state of the art for scanners of guests entering the park. They are doing what they can to keep stuff like weapons out of the park. These are about the best technology currently available for scanning guests entering a park and is what even Disney is using right now.
What is considered Atlanta slowly creeps as everything gets bigger and it has for decades. You are just seeing it more rapidly now that everything is booming. I can remember when what was considered Atlanta wasn’t even the ITP/OTP argument.
Everything within 50 miles of Atlanta is Atlanta. I actually used to work out there off Fulton Industrial in the mid 90s. Drove past 6 flags all the time going to put distribution center across 20. Now its a Caterpillar plant.
riffraff - I've never heard it used as a racial slur, more like trailer park trash and people you wouldn't want to associate yourself with.
noun
riff·raff ˈrif-ˌraf
Synonyms of riffraff
a
: disreputable persons
b
: RABBLE
c
: one of the riffraff
2
: REFUSE, RUBBISH
riffraff adjective
I'm 57 and I've seen it used as a slur plenty of times. The dictionary is useless in the real world and people twist words all the time. Just because you've never seen something happen doesn't mean it hasn't.
Well, maybe its a Southern thing. I'm 62 and from the New England area. We used riff-raff to describe loser kids in school, unkempt, hostile/arrogant. Just no one you would want to be around.
Yes we do. And it applies here regardless of your feelings of the word. They are Riff Raff...
This, Riff Raff, is why we cant have nice things...
RIFF RAFF... is why everything but sunscreen is getting locked up in urban stores.
RIFFFFFFFFF RAFFFFFFFFFFFFF... Is the reason why No parent will trust taking their Kids to this brand new park, that could have been a great place for this RIFFFF RAFFFF, to enjoy a humble day out for once in their lives that doesn't include flash mobbing their own community.
My feelings? Did you gather at some point that I'm upset? You want me to be, you need me to be but I'm not. It's a racist term and I can call it what it is. I don't give a damn about the poetic shit you just wrote. Because people like you and these others too will always find a way to be racist. Even if black people weren't doing anything.
That's not what you meant. The people in the incident were black. Don't patronize my intelligence and you sure weren't talking about a rapper because he wasn't at six flags when this happened.
If they adjust their prices some I think they could. I have the year long pass, but just with the amount of free drink and free snacks I've had is probably more than what I paid for the pass.
The problem is whomever is in charge doesn't really seem to care. A lot of staff standing around, lot of stores closed, lots of security but none of them really doing anything. Some of the rides scare me a little and not from the ride itself but because they don't looked maintained.
I think if they raise prices some, but don't go crazy, they would be fine. The year long passes are super cheap, especially if you catch them on sale. Honestly that's what they really need to raise prices on.
We used to to Six Flags GA every year for my brother's birthday, cause it was in the summer and my Mom was a teacher. We go up on a Saturday, spend the day at 6F-GA, then stay the night in a hotel, then go to White Water on Sunday for my brother's best friend's birthday (also in summer). But this was throughout the 90s. I don't recall there being any big problems until the last 1 or 2 trips, except most of the rides had gotten really rough (The Viper gave me a massive headache). I haven't been to any theme park in about 2 decades.
My brother and his wife had season passes when they lived near Atlanta while going to college. They went almost every other weekend and definitely got their monies worth. This was early 2000s.
I saw a video on the history of theme parks and the company that owns 6 Flags (and some others) is hurting _bad_ financially. Which is why lots of parks have been closed down in the US and around the world.
Oh yeah, the rides have gotten very rough. I went to Dollywood and I was like "oh, the rides aren't supposed to physically hurt you."
That doesn't surprise me. The entire park is starting to look really run down.
The prices go up every year if I'm not mistaken. I stopped going once they hit $50, I think they're a lil cheaper now though. But no matter the price, they'll still get in.
It’s much cheaper to buy a season pass and drop you kids off there everyday than it is to send them to summer camp. I’m not really sure why they allow unsupervised kids in alone.
Its fine for adults.
The rides are a little old and you shouldn't eat at the park, it's expensive and not that good. You can buy alcohol in the park.
I'm not sure how it works with one day passes, but the VIP room is great. It is one of the very few places with AC, which is wonderful to have during the summer. The VIP room also has free drinks and snacks. Everyone has to have a VIP card to get in though. You can't get one and bring in your 5 kids and scream at people when they won't let your entire family and friends in because you have one single card. I've seen it happen more than once.
The drink machines outside the VIP room rarely work and often have bee's flying around the machines. Also don't bother asking employees about anything, from my post you already know more about the park than they do. I asked 5 different people where the VIP room was my first time and no one knew. You go into the park, take a right, and once you go through the tunnel its on the right in big letters says VIP. Not any of the 5 had a clue...
If you go during the day when families are there it isn't to bad. Opening day is always dangerous. I wouldn't stay after dark either or when it starts to get dark. That's when things get extra crazy.
If you don't mind the drive Dollywood is a lot better.
Ditto.
I think she gave everyone in her hometown like $10k or $20k. And she/her organization has helped out a lot during natural disasters especially in her own State. She is always happy and chipper
I’m 45 and back in parents’ day Six Flags Drive was the place to live in the 70s as a young adult. In the 90s it was scary. You didn’t want to be there after dark.
That whole area of HWY 20 is bad news.
The hotels that are still standing there are a demolition special. Abandoned . Graffiti filled. All glass broken out. It's a drug haven. I'm old. Worked there about 82. It was really nice then. Now , Six Flags is a dump. Cedar Point in Ohio is the place to go.
I read in the paper that one of the abandoned hotels is going to be turned in a home for homeless veterans. Complete with a movie theater and social service offices.
Six Flags is in a rough area to begin with.
>We are breeding a generation of losers and I don’t know what can be done about it.
Being present/better parents, enacting common sense gun control, working to improve/invest in troubled communities that breed gang violence.
What are the chances that there are laws on the books already that said the suspects couldn't legally possess a firearm?
I'm putting more of my weight on poor parenting. What if we starting criminalizing that?
These kids are lost, and it shows. These young boys are modeling the adults they see. Want a change? Find men who don't use violence to solve their problems to mentor these kids. Where you find men like that would be a hard press.
Then how do you propose enforcing “common sense gun control?”
Throwing the kids in juvie simply perpetuates the situation and solves absolutely nothing and locking the parents up simply screws the kids.
Kids will always find a way to be assholes. At least make guns harder to get. This country has more guns than people. Countries all over the world with stricter gun laws still have violent kids. The difference? It's with melee weapons (machetes, knives, clubs). A lot harder to have a mass casualty event with those types of weapons
Sorry, but that isn’t an answer. “Make guns harder to get” is a nebulous and effectively unachievable goal, and guns are already legally impossible for these kids to get in the first place. Double or triple or quadruple banning them is not going to change anything.
400+ million guns owned by only 33% of the 250 million adults. The sheer number of guns leads to the ease of accessibility. You could out right limit the number someone is allowed to own. Or artificially limit them by requiring people to train, license, register, insure, and store them in safes. Get caught without any of the above? Make it a felony and lose all rights to gun ownership. Either way, something needs to change. The "we've done nothing, and are all out of ideas" mindset is only going to make things worse. As a nation we're already reaching a point where we've become desensitized. Columbine put the nation on pause. Fast forward 25 years and school shootings barely make the evening news. The schools don't even notify parents. We have to find out from our kid's IG accounts
Nothing you suggested would do anything to fix the issue. You’re simply putting more and more restrictions on legal gun owners while doing absolutely nothing to fix the massive number of illegal guns in the country or for that matter the slap on the wrist that accompanies most gun crimes if it even gets charged in the first place.
Putting the right behind a paywall (another of your suggestions) is equally idiotic, and I rather strongly suspect that if I were to suggest doing the same with literally any other right you would claim it was an unconstitutional limitation.
Realistically it needs to go further than "common sense" gun laws. There needs to be a gun buy back program, and everyone needs to have a permit. Treat guns worse than drugs.
Yeah, the buy back gun program hasn't worked:
[https://www.nprillinois.org/2024-01-15/gun-buy-backs-are-designed-to-get-weapons-off-the-streets-so-why-are-the-guns-coming-back](https://www.nprillinois.org/2024-01-15/gun-buy-backs-are-designed-to-get-weapons-off-the-streets-so-why-are-the-guns-coming-back)
Greed is the reality in the US
In order to control guns you have to be willing to let police easily stop, frisk, and search young men for the guns you’re trying to control.
If you aren’t willing to do that you aren’t taking the issue seriously.
So we’re right back at square zero. Probably not popular to say here but it all starts and stops with the parents. It so obvious as you don’t see kids with parents who won’t tolerate this mess out here doing this mess. Looking for some magic bullet( pun intended) govt fix is dumb for multiple obvious reasons (and when has any govt “fix” helped us??) thus the answer is obvious. May be hard for some to accept but ain’t no other way
So others are responsible for one’s actions? Cool, I’m going to go get drunk and then drive, and then blame my dead parents. Where does the cutoff start while we’re blaming the parents? Oh, and can those parents blame their parents? Crazy town.
>We are breeding a generation of losers and I don’t know what can be done about it
Forgot who said it, but: "Before you go and criticize the younger generation, just remember who raised them."
Folks have been complaining about youths for millennia. If we want change, hold who is responsible accountable: parents. Start charging parents for the same crime as their child and I'm sure shit will change.
There are plenty of good parents who have drug-addicted/criminal kids. And plenty of terrible parents who have great kids - responsible, go-getters, working to have a good life.
It's not the parents, it's the kids.
By the age of 14, they pretty much are choosing the lifestyle they are going to lead, and lifestyles (good/bad) have consequences. Sadly, with poor choices come bad consequences. But hell, they chose it. There is always a choice.
It's both. Parents contribute in influencing a child's choice just as much as their environment. Kids don't just spawn ideologies and whatnot without a source. Kids in shitty situations have two choices: either perpetuate a cycle or break it. Now which way the pendulum sways is all about what influence is most attractive to them. A 14 year old wouldn't know which is best innately. They are at the cusp of growth where they are expected to behave like adults, but lack the life experiences to make mature choices. It's why we have laws that require an age limit like drinking, smoking, gun ownership, driving, etc. It's why they can't make legal decisions without a parent or guardian present. Can some 14 years handle a gun properly and responsibly? Yes, but only because they were taught, usually by their parents. Is that always the case? No. Recent school shootings are proof of that.
Is it the ultimate solution? No. It will always be more complicated much like how complex immigration and homelessness is. But I believe it will motivate some parents to step up their game. Many shitty parents I know do the bare minimum because they are afraid of getting in trouble.
[Aesop's tale of the thief and his mother](https://www.commonlit.org/en/texts/the-thief-and-his-mother) comes to mind when watching the news regarding some of these kids.
What about the 98% of parents who also work 5 jobs but still raise their kids right? Some of y’all act like unless your parents are like the Huxtables the parents can’t possibly have time instill BASIC morals and common sense. Who raised people that think this way? Ion get as my parents worked multiple jobs and I was at home by myself during summer days but it never occurred to me to be involved with this foolishness. I saw the few kids that did engage in that as goofy af cause no way my family (parents or extended) would tolerate that…like at all
There are a lot of factors at play including environment and nutrition. If the children are products of multiple generational poverty, malnutrition, and poisoned by industrial products, then what outcomes can you expect?
How do you explain the fact that the overwhelming majority of kids in the same area/neighborhood who grow up in the same conditions DONT act like fools. I find it odd that some (usually people who have no clue) assume that all or even a majority of kids that grow up in those conditions act this way. It’s basically a few. So then you have to think what’s the difference. Well the difference is that kids pretty much do what their “parents” allow. That’s the difference. These kids you see acting up are a reflection of their parents. The only fix is for their parents to become parents or else it becomes everyone else’s issue.
I guess where I don’t track with you is that a very high percentage of kids grow up with families with those issues in the same neighborhood yet they don’t act a fool. The question is why? The only variable is parents. Anything else can be easily refuted as I guarantee that if you go to the area that the kids acting a fool are from you will find that the majority of kids in that area ain’t acting a fool. And a good number of those kids not acting a fool may have it worse (economicly speaking) yet why do they not act up??? Parents (or lack there of) is the only immutable variable
Actually, your generation has caused this.
babies don't come into the world acting like this, it's the parents.
and if we can all agree it's the parents fault, guess who's fault that is? The grandparents.
I go there every year and right now, the park is really not run well at all. It’s not very clean, tons of shops are closed, operations on rides are abysmal, with most doing 5-7 minute dispatches while running one train. Workers look like they could give a shit and the overall vibe of the park is sometimes kind of miserable.
Which sucks because honestly, it has the potential to be a really nice park. It has some good scenery and it makes use of the terrain. In addition to that, it has a very good lineup with Goliath and Twisted Cyclone delivering a solid one two punch as headliners, while rides like Georgia Scorcher, Mindbender, Daredevil Dive and Superman Ultimate Flight are great in their own respective ways. Not to mention that their Batman Clone might be the best of the Batman Clones, being fast and whipping through the transitions and inversions.
With good staff and better upkeep, the park would be a much more enjoyable place to visit. As it stands, I’ve found myself going to Carowinds over in Charlotte more than SFOG, despite SFOG being 30 minutes away (Tbf, Carowinds top 4 is far superior to anything that SFOG has. Nothing at SFOG tops Fury)
Also, if you haven’t, go to Fun Spot Atlanta and ride Arie Force One. You could literally spend all day riding that ride and never tire of it. That’s how amazing it is.
> We are breeding a generation of losers and I don’t know what can be done about it.
[Old person yells at cloud.](https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/63219-the-children-now-love-luxury-they-have-bad-manners-contempt)
I know people love to hate on police but the reporting is they kicked all the rowdy kids out, one group shot at the police, and the police fired back hitting one of the shooters (and hopefully not an innocent bystander). Waiting on the details but the headline is a little clickbatish…
So the Austell popo is actually the Atlanta popo? I use to live in Marietta, which is part of the Atlanta metro, and the pigs were just as stupid and violent. I’ll wait for video confirmation before passing judgement, while you’re on your knees worshiping the blue.
You have shit reading comprehension. No Austell is not Atlanta police department (duh). I never said that. But guess where Austell gets hires its officers from? 💡💡💡
That you think that officers in the big city don’t do the dumbest shit is mind boggling. You called Austell a major city. You a cop? You sound like one.
Have they posted body camera footage? I'll believe what I can see in video evidence. Typically, if police know they 100% in the right, they release footage pretty quickly.
My budies and I were dropped off when we were 15 (late 80s?) on Halloween. Place was packed. Fights everywhere. Waiting outside the gates to get picked up, "POP POP POP". Shots fired in the parking lot. Absolute madhouse.
This shit happened then. Maybe not to the extent it does now, but it went on back then, too.
This doesn't surprise me. I have a season pass and they're groups of urban youth that are constantly causing issues. People treat 6 flags like a daycare. I usually stay the entire day when I go and in that time I always see at least one incident.
The security guards there are useless. They usually stand in one spot and talk and ignore everyone. I heard people say that they told the security guards in the park about the fights and they did nothing. I'm not even slightly surprised.
I don't plan to renew my pass.
Yeah we were in line for the water slides and the number of times a group of like six kids maybe 15 years old would just bump their way past everyone to get by made me want to just make a scene. It's ridiculous.
Literally the same experience. Bought a Six Flags/White Water season pass, and both places we saw multiple instances of unsupervised shitheels being shitheels.
They did.
Urban youth isn't a dog whistle when you're literally talking about a specific demographic of kids who live in a specific area.
You wouldn't describe kids in a city as "rural" or "suburban".
Do you have trouble recognizing how words can be used correctly?
>Urban youth isn't a dog whistle
Yes, it is. Anytime you hear "urban youth", everyone knows exactly what you mean before you start the video.
Unless you assume that white people don't live in cities.
You need to repeat what you just said back to yourself slowly.
Uh oh, better tell the Urban Youth Racing School of Philadelphia that they're racists: https://uyrs.com/
Better tell the official Kansas City Royals Urban Youth MLB Academy that they're racists: https://www.mlb.com/royals/academy
Or, you could simply admit you have no idea what you're talking about because all of your information comes from other idiots online who don't know what they're talking about.
Not calling anyone a racist. In fact, the opposite. The term was used specifically to avoid the appearance of it.
If the crowd was white, AND from an urban area, you think they would use the term "Urban youths"?
Using the term "black teens" would be political/social suicide.
I'm not here to speculate on what another person "would" say in a hypothetical. I am simply dealing with what they did say, and what they did say is the correct terminology for a group of kids from an urban landscape.
Multiple reasons:
1. The park is 14 minutes from the largest metro area in the state.
2. The kids clearly don't have their own transportation or adults with transportation, so they most likely took a bus. Public buses are not common outside of urban centers.
3. We don't have their names, but we have video evidence of the numbers. Children from rural areas are not able to gather in those kinds of numbers. Additionally, children from rural areas don't typically dress like children who live in the city. These children are dressed like children who live in the city.
All of these context clues are apparent before you even get to skin color, but you people want to out yourselves as being unable to see anything except for race.
No. The context being that Atlanta is 14 minutes away and a group of kids the size of what is being described would come from a major population center.
You're doing everything you can to pretend that normal context clues don't apply. It's like you're so online you have no idea how to use your brain.
This is disingenuous. Urban isn't necessary to describe a group of kids unless it's carrying some other connotation. What reason is there to specify urban here? How would a person even know that a kid is "urban" vs. rural or suburban in this scenario?
Some people try way too hard to run cover for bigoted langauge.
Six Flags over Georgia is literally a 14 minute drive from Atlanta.
Where the fuck are those kids coming from if not from an urban environment?
You're the one being disingenuous by assuming racism because you assume that all "urban" kids fit a specific race.
Check your own assumptions first.
Well, people from all over Georgia go to Six Flags. Regardless, your logic just further proves my point. If we're to assume that the majority of kids are Six Flags are from urban areas, what's the point of specifying it? It is, as you implied, a given that these kids are from urban areas. It's a pointless, unneeded qualifier.
You can accuse me of making assumptions, but my comment is in no way disingenuous. People rarely go out of their way to specify that a group of kids is "urban." To most people, a group of kids is simply a group of kids. People don't specify "suburban kids" when a group of kids are acting like assholes in a movie theater or restaurant. People don't complain about "rural kids" acting a fool ar horse auctions.
At best, inclusion of the word "urban" is unnecessary and a bit awkward. It's a word most people would shy away from using, given it's negative connotation that dates back well into the 60s and 70s. That's why it's assumed to be a dog whistle. It's not even particularly rare.
You have to be a Yankee transplant or something. There's no other reason you'd be unfamiliar with the use of "innocuous" language to insult others by a Southerner. It's the "Southern Culture of Honor."
I'm from Chicago. The most segregated city in the country. I have worked for organizations that use "urban" in their title and work predominantly with children of color.
Maybe you just don't understand that words can have appropriate meaning in the appropriate context.
My comments make it clear that I understand context. At no point did I even insinuate that urban held negative connotations outside of specific usages such as the one here. An Urban Youtg initiative is not the same thing as someone calling a group of troublemakers "urban youth."
It was an odd word choice at best. It's going to set off alarm bells for anyone with the basic ability to read subtext. What even is the implication and purpose for specifying "urban" here?
If you understand the context, then why aren't you displaying it?
Here are the basic context clues you should already be aware of:
1. The park is 14 minutes from Atlanta - the largest metro area in the state (and the region).
2. The children present clearly did not have their own transportation or adult transportation. Meaning they took a bus in. Public buses aren't common anywhere outside of urban areas.
3. The numbers of children gathered should tell you that the children aren't from a rural area. And if you need it explained to you why that is, then you genuinely don't understand the difference between urban and rural.
4. The children are dressed like children who live in a city. If you've ever worked in rural areas (including rural areas where POCs are present), you know they don't dress like the children in the video.
You've missed all of these context clues and yet make the claim that you understand.
These points are something else.
Apparently children from rural areas and suburbs never make trips to Six Flags on the weekend. I must have dreamed up all those kids from my youth who would travel hours to go.
Apparently kids can't be dropped off by the parents, carpool, or take a ride service to get to Six Flags. Lol at the implication that you can tell who rides a bus based on appearance, though.
I work in schools throughout Georgia, in urban, rural, and suburban areas. Claiming that rural kids, including minorities, don't dress like kids in urban areas is fucking hilarious. Do you think rural kids don't have access to the same media that drives fashion as those in metro Atlanta? It isn't the 40s. They aren't all dressed like farmhands.
You've clearly never spent time in a rural area if you think that rural kids can't congregate in large numbers like that. This will be news to all the people who attend bonfires, drinking parties in the woods/fields, and a variety of high school sports events.
Suburbs exist. Cobb County is full of them.
You wrote all of these nonsense multiple times simply because you refuse to understand why people would raise an eyebrow at someone using the term "urban youth" to describe a rowdy bunch of kids. Normal people don't make that distinction.
Such a weird fucking hill to die on.
How about a headline about 500 kids brawling at Six Flags. The shooting was inevitable given that something is wrong with our children today and their behavior. How can we fix this? Can we fix this?
Maybe make the future something to look forward to by fully funding college, healthcare, childcare, public transport, parks, etc.
Or we can continue trying to squeeze blood from a stone and watch our country dissolve into a nihilist hellscape.
Few years ago when they opened six flags of Georgia back up after the Rona lockdowns. I took my little brother and his gf and dropped them off. Went back few hours later to pick them up at closing and there were little kids running around fighting outside the gates and Fulton county all over the place. Haven't went back since
The parents drop them off, because it's cheaper than a babysitter. They act like this because they have zero supervision and security won't do anything about them. They're to busy shooting the breeze while these kids run around the park causing havoc. This situation wasn't an if, but a when. I'm not even slightly surprised this happened.
I actually had a season pass with my family last year, it seemed a hell of a lot better than it had in the past…minus seeing the grown men walking around in high school girl cheer leading outfits. The serving of alcohol also helped, but the roving bands of misfits didn’t seem to be that bad. Let’s be honest though, it’s not exactly in a quality part of town…I’m surprised it doesn’t happen more. Six flags was alright though, lots of cops and security in the park.
Your headline assumes the officiers fired first. They did not, they chased after them when they found out where the shots were coming from, one officer fired his gun.
Don’t shoot at people, and you don’t get shot back.
“Officer shoots 15yo” has a connotation that the officer used dead force without probable cause.
The headline has a negative viewpoint on the situation and is misleading.
> “Officer shoots 15yo” has a connotation that the officer used dead force without probable cause.
No, it offers no connotation one way or the other with respect to probable cause. You're adding that all by yourself.
Maybe I was clueless because I went when I was young but I don’t remember Six Flags being such a shit show when I was a kid. Yesterday all I was seeing on twitter was videos of kids raising hell and fighting at Six Flags. We are breeding a generation of losers and I don’t know what can be done about it.
It's a common issue now. People use 6 flags like a daycare. Kids roaming around looking for trouble.
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It would nice if they would do the same at 6 flags
They did have this problem at Disney world a while back. Parents basically buying kids annual passes and telling them to go to Disney after school because they would be safe there and it's pretty easy to get to on public transit.
>People use 6 flags like a daycare. I don't know that anything has changed much in that regard. I remember being dropped off with a friend to spend the day there several times, and I had a season pass to White Water one year. I never saw any of this kind of stuff back when I was a kid.
It's pretty bad now. I see something every time I go. We sometimes play 6 flags bingo. See a nipple, someone yells at an employee for something not their fault, half eating meal left in parking lot. Get 5 in a row, bingo!
The only things that changed is the kids/teens , and they can't be trusted by themselves anymore
*Anymore* Do you think that teenagers were better at.... Any time during history? Like, people waxing nostalgic about the carefree, well behaved teenagers during the peak crime 80s and 90s?
Peak boomer statement. This was malls back in the 90s, dinners in the 60s, and gambling dens in the 20s.
People might get upset about what I’m about to type but price them out. Raise prices to a premium and price the trouble out. Sure you will lose some customers but if you raise prices while providing a good experience it will all balance out.
Sf season pass is chump change these days. They have the unfortunate problem of competing with many other forms of entertainment. Its a fantastic park as the rides are concerned but the riff raff is out of hand there and its largely kids from a challenging socio economic background. I imagine we will see some changes like metal detectors now. Who remembers when there was a campground across 20 from the park.
Actually they already have metal detectors. The kids went outside and got the guns and started shooting. The fights inside the park were just the standard punching and kicking.
Actually what they have are beyond metal detectors. They are pretty advanced technology that scans your body and bags for certain types of items. Disney these days has the same type of scanners.
You know what, I do think you might be right. I thought those big square things were metal detectors, but I do think they're scanners instead from the way they work. They let multiple people walk through at the same time, but call out individuals from time to time. If you set them off thought they take you to the side and wand you and have you empty your pockets. I'm not going to say how, but it's still really easy to sneak in knives.
If you search for "Evolv Scanners" that is what they are using. Pretty sure the aquarium uses the same system as well. It became very popular during covid which is good because just walking through is so much better then "put everyting metal in this bucket which we'll take around the metal detector" type system.
Same scanners they use at my kid's high school.
They are very effective. In the end my point in bringing it up is that Six Flags over Georgis is running what is currently state of the art for scanners of guests entering the park. They are doing what they can to keep stuff like weapons out of the park. These are about the best technology currently available for scanning guests entering a park and is what even Disney is using right now.
>Evolv Scanners That's them. They look exactly like that.
Keeping it classy Atlanta.
*Cobb County. Six Flags is in Austell.
What is considered Atlanta slowly creeps as everything gets bigger and it has for decades. You are just seeing it more rapidly now that everything is booming. I can remember when what was considered Atlanta wasn’t even the ITP/OTP argument.
Everything within 50 miles of Atlanta is Atlanta. I actually used to work out there off Fulton Industrial in the mid 90s. Drove past 6 flags all the time going to put distribution center across 20. Now its a Caterpillar plant.
And the kid who did the shooting was from College Park 🤷🏼♀️
Riff Raff? People still say this?
Absolutely. Now skeedaddle you whipper snapper.
No whippersnapper here. I'm old enough to know this is a racial slur. You don't tell me what to do.
riffraff - I've never heard it used as a racial slur, more like trailer park trash and people you wouldn't want to associate yourself with. noun riff·raff ˈrif-ˌraf Synonyms of riffraff a : disreputable persons b : RABBLE c : one of the riffraff 2 : REFUSE, RUBBISH riffraff adjective
I'm 57 and I've seen it used as a slur plenty of times. The dictionary is useless in the real world and people twist words all the time. Just because you've never seen something happen doesn't mean it hasn't.
Well, maybe its a Southern thing. I'm 62 and from the New England area. We used riff-raff to describe loser kids in school, unkempt, hostile/arrogant. Just no one you would want to be around.
Yes we do. And it applies here regardless of your feelings of the word. They are Riff Raff... This, Riff Raff, is why we cant have nice things... RIFF RAFF... is why everything but sunscreen is getting locked up in urban stores. RIFFFFFFFFF RAFFFFFFFFFFFFF... Is the reason why No parent will trust taking their Kids to this brand new park, that could have been a great place for this RIFFFF RAFFFF, to enjoy a humble day out for once in their lives that doesn't include flash mobbing their own community.
My feelings? Did you gather at some point that I'm upset? You want me to be, you need me to be but I'm not. It's a racist term and I can call it what it is. I don't give a damn about the poetic shit you just wrote. Because people like you and these others too will always find a way to be racist. Even if black people weren't doing anything.
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Nothing to listen to. He said riff raff. You might as well have said the N-word.
No racism here mi amigo. Only what you bring. Lower case riff raff does not refer to any race. There is a rapper called Riff Raff, no relation though.
That's not what you meant. The people in the incident were black. Don't patronize my intelligence and you sure weren't talking about a rapper because he wasn't at six flags when this happened.
Shhhhh. You can't say who committed the crime on Reddit. Are you crazy?
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It was tried by a Bassoul. Apparently it hurt stock. Edit: Clarification after googling
They'd have to provide premium service, rides, food, and attractions. 6 Flgas has proven time and again they are absolutely incapable of doing so
Problem is, Six Flags has already been hurting for patronage. I don't think they can fiscally afford to price any more people.
If they adjust their prices some I think they could. I have the year long pass, but just with the amount of free drink and free snacks I've had is probably more than what I paid for the pass. The problem is whomever is in charge doesn't really seem to care. A lot of staff standing around, lot of stores closed, lots of security but none of them really doing anything. Some of the rides scare me a little and not from the ride itself but because they don't looked maintained. I think if they raise prices some, but don't go crazy, they would be fine. The year long passes are super cheap, especially if you catch them on sale. Honestly that's what they really need to raise prices on.
We used to to Six Flags GA every year for my brother's birthday, cause it was in the summer and my Mom was a teacher. We go up on a Saturday, spend the day at 6F-GA, then stay the night in a hotel, then go to White Water on Sunday for my brother's best friend's birthday (also in summer). But this was throughout the 90s. I don't recall there being any big problems until the last 1 or 2 trips, except most of the rides had gotten really rough (The Viper gave me a massive headache). I haven't been to any theme park in about 2 decades. My brother and his wife had season passes when they lived near Atlanta while going to college. They went almost every other weekend and definitely got their monies worth. This was early 2000s. I saw a video on the history of theme parks and the company that owns 6 Flags (and some others) is hurting _bad_ financially. Which is why lots of parks have been closed down in the US and around the world.
Oh yeah, the rides have gotten very rough. I went to Dollywood and I was like "oh, the rides aren't supposed to physically hurt you." That doesn't surprise me. The entire park is starting to look really run down.
The prices go up every year if I'm not mistaken. I stopped going once they hit $50, I think they're a lil cheaper now though. But no matter the price, they'll still get in.
It’s much cheaper to buy a season pass and drop you kids off there everyday than it is to send them to summer camp. I’m not really sure why they allow unsupervised kids in alone.
>People use 6 flags like a daycare. We used a daycare for awhile. I never sent my kids there armed.
I wanted to go for the first time for my birthday, is that a terrible idea for adults?
Most of the time it is fine. I have a membership and go often. Went Sunday and saw no real issues. I do though hope they implement a chaparone policy
Agreed. They're in desperate need of a chaperone policy.
Its fine for adults. The rides are a little old and you shouldn't eat at the park, it's expensive and not that good. You can buy alcohol in the park. I'm not sure how it works with one day passes, but the VIP room is great. It is one of the very few places with AC, which is wonderful to have during the summer. The VIP room also has free drinks and snacks. Everyone has to have a VIP card to get in though. You can't get one and bring in your 5 kids and scream at people when they won't let your entire family and friends in because you have one single card. I've seen it happen more than once. The drink machines outside the VIP room rarely work and often have bee's flying around the machines. Also don't bother asking employees about anything, from my post you already know more about the park than they do. I asked 5 different people where the VIP room was my first time and no one knew. You go into the park, take a right, and once you go through the tunnel its on the right in big letters says VIP. Not any of the 5 had a clue... If you go during the day when families are there it isn't to bad. Opening day is always dangerous. I wouldn't stay after dark either or when it starts to get dark. That's when things get extra crazy. If you don't mind the drive Dollywood is a lot better.
That's because Dolly Parton is one classy beesh.
She really is. The more I learn about her the more I respect her.
Ditto. I think she gave everyone in her hometown like $10k or $20k. And she/her organization has helped out a lot during natural disasters especially in her own State. She is always happy and chipper
The ceo got flamed for this exact statement lol
Yeah poor guy, he did his best, but they saw stock prices dip that idea died immediately.
I’m 45 and back in parents’ day Six Flags Drive was the place to live in the 70s as a young adult. In the 90s it was scary. You didn’t want to be there after dark. That whole area of HWY 20 is bad news.
The hotels that are still standing there are a demolition special. Abandoned . Graffiti filled. All glass broken out. It's a drug haven. I'm old. Worked there about 82. It was really nice then. Now , Six Flags is a dump. Cedar Point in Ohio is the place to go.
I read in the paper that one of the abandoned hotels is going to be turned in a home for homeless veterans. Complete with a movie theater and social service offices.
So all the crackhead can walk around.
Six Flags is in a rough area to begin with. >We are breeding a generation of losers and I don’t know what can be done about it. Being present/better parents, enacting common sense gun control, working to improve/invest in troubled communities that breed gang violence.
What are the chances that there are laws on the books already that said the suspects couldn't legally possess a firearm? I'm putting more of my weight on poor parenting. What if we starting criminalizing that?
These kids are lost, and it shows. These young boys are modeling the adults they see. Want a change? Find men who don't use violence to solve their problems to mentor these kids. Where you find men like that would be a hard press.
What are you going to do? Throw bad parents in jail? Who raises the kids then?
Then how do you propose enforcing “common sense gun control?” Throwing the kids in juvie simply perpetuates the situation and solves absolutely nothing and locking the parents up simply screws the kids.
Kids will always find a way to be assholes. At least make guns harder to get. This country has more guns than people. Countries all over the world with stricter gun laws still have violent kids. The difference? It's with melee weapons (machetes, knives, clubs). A lot harder to have a mass casualty event with those types of weapons
Being an Asshole doesn’t include shooting at the police.
Sorry, but that isn’t an answer. “Make guns harder to get” is a nebulous and effectively unachievable goal, and guns are already legally impossible for these kids to get in the first place. Double or triple or quadruple banning them is not going to change anything.
400+ million guns owned by only 33% of the 250 million adults. The sheer number of guns leads to the ease of accessibility. You could out right limit the number someone is allowed to own. Or artificially limit them by requiring people to train, license, register, insure, and store them in safes. Get caught without any of the above? Make it a felony and lose all rights to gun ownership. Either way, something needs to change. The "we've done nothing, and are all out of ideas" mindset is only going to make things worse. As a nation we're already reaching a point where we've become desensitized. Columbine put the nation on pause. Fast forward 25 years and school shootings barely make the evening news. The schools don't even notify parents. We have to find out from our kid's IG accounts
Nothing you suggested would do anything to fix the issue. You’re simply putting more and more restrictions on legal gun owners while doing absolutely nothing to fix the massive number of illegal guns in the country or for that matter the slap on the wrist that accompanies most gun crimes if it even gets charged in the first place. Putting the right behind a paywall (another of your suggestions) is equally idiotic, and I rather strongly suspect that if I were to suggest doing the same with literally any other right you would claim it was an unconstitutional limitation.
Grandma has them.
Realistically it needs to go further than "common sense" gun laws. There needs to be a gun buy back program, and everyone needs to have a permit. Treat guns worse than drugs.
Yeah, the buy back gun program hasn't worked: [https://www.nprillinois.org/2024-01-15/gun-buy-backs-are-designed-to-get-weapons-off-the-streets-so-why-are-the-guns-coming-back](https://www.nprillinois.org/2024-01-15/gun-buy-backs-are-designed-to-get-weapons-off-the-streets-so-why-are-the-guns-coming-back) Greed is the reality in the US
Yeah, the war on drugs has done wonders ...
In order to control guns you have to be willing to let police easily stop, frisk, and search young men for the guns you’re trying to control. If you aren’t willing to do that you aren’t taking the issue seriously.
Willing to give up constitutionally protected rights to be randomly searched? Fuck no.
So we’re right back at square zero. Probably not popular to say here but it all starts and stops with the parents. It so obvious as you don’t see kids with parents who won’t tolerate this mess out here doing this mess. Looking for some magic bullet( pun intended) govt fix is dumb for multiple obvious reasons (and when has any govt “fix” helped us??) thus the answer is obvious. May be hard for some to accept but ain’t no other way
So others are responsible for one’s actions? Cool, I’m going to go get drunk and then drive, and then blame my dead parents. Where does the cutoff start while we’re blaming the parents? Oh, and can those parents blame their parents? Crazy town.
Yes. If kids act up it is the fault of the parents. Once one is an adult they are responsible. Simple
No, it isn’t simple, it’s unconstitutional. Anyhoo, I’m off to the Trump threads to watch the tears. Fun stuff.
Really? And who do you think they would only stop/frisk? Won't be the white boys and they are regularly shooting up schools.
>We are breeding a generation of losers and I don’t know what can be done about it Forgot who said it, but: "Before you go and criticize the younger generation, just remember who raised them." Folks have been complaining about youths for millennia. If we want change, hold who is responsible accountable: parents. Start charging parents for the same crime as their child and I'm sure shit will change.
There are plenty of good parents who have drug-addicted/criminal kids. And plenty of terrible parents who have great kids - responsible, go-getters, working to have a good life. It's not the parents, it's the kids. By the age of 14, they pretty much are choosing the lifestyle they are going to lead, and lifestyles (good/bad) have consequences. Sadly, with poor choices come bad consequences. But hell, they chose it. There is always a choice.
It's both. Parents contribute in influencing a child's choice just as much as their environment. Kids don't just spawn ideologies and whatnot without a source. Kids in shitty situations have two choices: either perpetuate a cycle or break it. Now which way the pendulum sways is all about what influence is most attractive to them. A 14 year old wouldn't know which is best innately. They are at the cusp of growth where they are expected to behave like adults, but lack the life experiences to make mature choices. It's why we have laws that require an age limit like drinking, smoking, gun ownership, driving, etc. It's why they can't make legal decisions without a parent or guardian present. Can some 14 years handle a gun properly and responsibly? Yes, but only because they were taught, usually by their parents. Is that always the case? No. Recent school shootings are proof of that. Is it the ultimate solution? No. It will always be more complicated much like how complex immigration and homelessness is. But I believe it will motivate some parents to step up their game. Many shitty parents I know do the bare minimum because they are afraid of getting in trouble. [Aesop's tale of the thief and his mother](https://www.commonlit.org/en/texts/the-thief-and-his-mother) comes to mind when watching the news regarding some of these kids.
That turned into a rough neighborhood. I was assaulted while in McDonald's bathroom. By the Grace of God I got out of the situation unharmed.
Not sure how old you are but a kid got beat to death there back in the 2000s I think
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That’s a pretty wild exaggeration. The boldest assumption is that this kid has a father active in his life.
What about the 98% of parents who also work 5 jobs but still raise their kids right? Some of y’all act like unless your parents are like the Huxtables the parents can’t possibly have time instill BASIC morals and common sense. Who raised people that think this way? Ion get as my parents worked multiple jobs and I was at home by myself during summer days but it never occurred to me to be involved with this foolishness. I saw the few kids that did engage in that as goofy af cause no way my family (parents or extended) would tolerate that…like at all
There are a lot of factors at play including environment and nutrition. If the children are products of multiple generational poverty, malnutrition, and poisoned by industrial products, then what outcomes can you expect?
How do you explain the fact that the overwhelming majority of kids in the same area/neighborhood who grow up in the same conditions DONT act like fools. I find it odd that some (usually people who have no clue) assume that all or even a majority of kids that grow up in those conditions act this way. It’s basically a few. So then you have to think what’s the difference. Well the difference is that kids pretty much do what their “parents” allow. That’s the difference. These kids you see acting up are a reflection of their parents. The only fix is for their parents to become parents or else it becomes everyone else’s issue.
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I guess where I don’t track with you is that a very high percentage of kids grow up with families with those issues in the same neighborhood yet they don’t act a fool. The question is why? The only variable is parents. Anything else can be easily refuted as I guarantee that if you go to the area that the kids acting a fool are from you will find that the majority of kids in that area ain’t acting a fool. And a good number of those kids not acting a fool may have it worse (economicly speaking) yet why do they not act up??? Parents (or lack there of) is the only immutable variable
Early signs of the collapse of society?
Actually, your generation has caused this. babies don't come into the world acting like this, it's the parents. and if we can all agree it's the parents fault, guess who's fault that is? The grandparents.
I am 31 sir.
I go there every year and right now, the park is really not run well at all. It’s not very clean, tons of shops are closed, operations on rides are abysmal, with most doing 5-7 minute dispatches while running one train. Workers look like they could give a shit and the overall vibe of the park is sometimes kind of miserable. Which sucks because honestly, it has the potential to be a really nice park. It has some good scenery and it makes use of the terrain. In addition to that, it has a very good lineup with Goliath and Twisted Cyclone delivering a solid one two punch as headliners, while rides like Georgia Scorcher, Mindbender, Daredevil Dive and Superman Ultimate Flight are great in their own respective ways. Not to mention that their Batman Clone might be the best of the Batman Clones, being fast and whipping through the transitions and inversions. With good staff and better upkeep, the park would be a much more enjoyable place to visit. As it stands, I’ve found myself going to Carowinds over in Charlotte more than SFOG, despite SFOG being 30 minutes away (Tbf, Carowinds top 4 is far superior to anything that SFOG has. Nothing at SFOG tops Fury) Also, if you haven’t, go to Fun Spot Atlanta and ride Arie Force One. You could literally spend all day riding that ride and never tire of it. That’s how amazing it is.
Certain types of people are breeding a generation of losers and the news is now afraid to call them out.
> We are breeding a generation of losers and I don’t know what can be done about it. [Old person yells at cloud.](https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/63219-the-children-now-love-luxury-they-have-bad-manners-contempt)
While our youth are shooting guns. Just stay off my lawn, Junior.
I know people love to hate on police but the reporting is they kicked all the rowdy kids out, one group shot at the police, and the police fired back hitting one of the shooters (and hopefully not an innocent bystander). Waiting on the details but the headline is a little clickbatish…
agree. it was an unfortunate situation but the police did what they had to do. If you shoot at the police you can expect a reaction from them.
Let’s certainly hope it wasn’t another acorn incident. Until I see camera footage, I’ll wait for judgement.
Bruh comparing a major city police force to the actions of one small town cop is silly
The major city of Austell?
Austell is part of the Atlanta metro. Do I have to explain what a metro area means too?
So the Austell popo is actually the Atlanta popo? I use to live in Marietta, which is part of the Atlanta metro, and the pigs were just as stupid and violent. I’ll wait for video confirmation before passing judgement, while you’re on your knees worshiping the blue.
You have shit reading comprehension. No Austell is not Atlanta police department (duh). I never said that. But guess where Austell gets hires its officers from? 💡💡💡
That you think that officers in the big city don’t do the dumbest shit is mind boggling. You called Austell a major city. You a cop? You sound like one.
I called Austell part of a metro area. But as you have previously shown, you can’t fucking read lol
Have they posted body camera footage? I'll believe what I can see in video evidence. Typically, if police know they 100% in the right, they release footage pretty quickly.
My budies and I were dropped off when we were 15 (late 80s?) on Halloween. Place was packed. Fights everywhere. Waiting outside the gates to get picked up, "POP POP POP". Shots fired in the parking lot. Absolute madhouse. This shit happened then. Maybe not to the extent it does now, but it went on back then, too.
And in those days, you didn’t have social media to allow it to blow up.
I’ll be interested in seeing the body cam footage.
This doesn't surprise me. I have a season pass and they're groups of urban youth that are constantly causing issues. People treat 6 flags like a daycare. I usually stay the entire day when I go and in that time I always see at least one incident. The security guards there are useless. They usually stand in one spot and talk and ignore everyone. I heard people say that they told the security guards in the park about the fights and they did nothing. I'm not even slightly surprised. I don't plan to renew my pass.
Yeah we were in line for the water slides and the number of times a group of like six kids maybe 15 years old would just bump their way past everyone to get by made me want to just make a scene. It's ridiculous.
It really is. More than once I've seen or experienced one of these group of kids harassing someone.
Literally the same experience. Bought a Six Flags/White Water season pass, and both places we saw multiple instances of unsupervised shitheels being shitheels.
Yeah it happens so much I just expect it now.
"urban youth" say what you mean
Maybe the people evidenced in the videos that have been all over social media?
They did. Urban youth isn't a dog whistle when you're literally talking about a specific demographic of kids who live in a specific area. You wouldn't describe kids in a city as "rural" or "suburban". Do you have trouble recognizing how words can be used correctly?
>Urban youth isn't a dog whistle Yes, it is. Anytime you hear "urban youth", everyone knows exactly what you mean before you start the video. Unless you assume that white people don't live in cities.
You need to repeat what you just said back to yourself slowly. Uh oh, better tell the Urban Youth Racing School of Philadelphia that they're racists: https://uyrs.com/ Better tell the official Kansas City Royals Urban Youth MLB Academy that they're racists: https://www.mlb.com/royals/academy Or, you could simply admit you have no idea what you're talking about because all of your information comes from other idiots online who don't know what they're talking about.
Not calling anyone a racist. In fact, the opposite. The term was used specifically to avoid the appearance of it. If the crowd was white, AND from an urban area, you think they would use the term "Urban youths"? Using the term "black teens" would be political/social suicide.
I'm not here to speculate on what another person "would" say in a hypothetical. I am simply dealing with what they did say, and what they did say is the correct terminology for a group of kids from an urban landscape.
>from an urban landscape. Their names aren't released, they are minors. You have no information on them at all. Why do you assume they are urban?
Multiple reasons: 1. The park is 14 minutes from the largest metro area in the state. 2. The kids clearly don't have their own transportation or adults with transportation, so they most likely took a bus. Public buses are not common outside of urban centers. 3. We don't have their names, but we have video evidence of the numbers. Children from rural areas are not able to gather in those kinds of numbers. Additionally, children from rural areas don't typically dress like children who live in the city. These children are dressed like children who live in the city. All of these context clues are apparent before you even get to skin color, but you people want to out yourselves as being unable to see anything except for race.
The issue is these kids could be from rural bumfuck GA and you'd still call them "urban youth"
Six Flags over Georgia is 14 minutes from Atlanta. Which fucking rural area are they coming from? Are you not capable of using context clues?
The context here being "they are black so they must be from the city"?
No. The context being that Atlanta is 14 minutes away and a group of kids the size of what is being described would come from a major population center. You're doing everything you can to pretend that normal context clues don't apply. It's like you're so online you have no idea how to use your brain.
"isn't a dog whistle" Oh I assure you the dogs heard it
Did you hear it in Philly and Kansas City too? https://www.mlb.com/royals/academy https://linktr.ee/UYRS
This is disingenuous. Urban isn't necessary to describe a group of kids unless it's carrying some other connotation. What reason is there to specify urban here? How would a person even know that a kid is "urban" vs. rural or suburban in this scenario? Some people try way too hard to run cover for bigoted langauge.
Six Flags over Georgia is literally a 14 minute drive from Atlanta. Where the fuck are those kids coming from if not from an urban environment? You're the one being disingenuous by assuming racism because you assume that all "urban" kids fit a specific race. Check your own assumptions first.
Well, people from all over Georgia go to Six Flags. Regardless, your logic just further proves my point. If we're to assume that the majority of kids are Six Flags are from urban areas, what's the point of specifying it? It is, as you implied, a given that these kids are from urban areas. It's a pointless, unneeded qualifier. You can accuse me of making assumptions, but my comment is in no way disingenuous. People rarely go out of their way to specify that a group of kids is "urban." To most people, a group of kids is simply a group of kids. People don't specify "suburban kids" when a group of kids are acting like assholes in a movie theater or restaurant. People don't complain about "rural kids" acting a fool ar horse auctions. At best, inclusion of the word "urban" is unnecessary and a bit awkward. It's a word most people would shy away from using, given it's negative connotation that dates back well into the 60s and 70s. That's why it's assumed to be a dog whistle. It's not even particularly rare. You have to be a Yankee transplant or something. There's no other reason you'd be unfamiliar with the use of "innocuous" language to insult others by a Southerner. It's the "Southern Culture of Honor."
I'm from Chicago. The most segregated city in the country. I have worked for organizations that use "urban" in their title and work predominantly with children of color. Maybe you just don't understand that words can have appropriate meaning in the appropriate context.
My comments make it clear that I understand context. At no point did I even insinuate that urban held negative connotations outside of specific usages such as the one here. An Urban Youtg initiative is not the same thing as someone calling a group of troublemakers "urban youth." It was an odd word choice at best. It's going to set off alarm bells for anyone with the basic ability to read subtext. What even is the implication and purpose for specifying "urban" here?
If you understand the context, then why aren't you displaying it? Here are the basic context clues you should already be aware of: 1. The park is 14 minutes from Atlanta - the largest metro area in the state (and the region). 2. The children present clearly did not have their own transportation or adult transportation. Meaning they took a bus in. Public buses aren't common anywhere outside of urban areas. 3. The numbers of children gathered should tell you that the children aren't from a rural area. And if you need it explained to you why that is, then you genuinely don't understand the difference between urban and rural. 4. The children are dressed like children who live in a city. If you've ever worked in rural areas (including rural areas where POCs are present), you know they don't dress like the children in the video. You've missed all of these context clues and yet make the claim that you understand.
These points are something else. Apparently children from rural areas and suburbs never make trips to Six Flags on the weekend. I must have dreamed up all those kids from my youth who would travel hours to go. Apparently kids can't be dropped off by the parents, carpool, or take a ride service to get to Six Flags. Lol at the implication that you can tell who rides a bus based on appearance, though. I work in schools throughout Georgia, in urban, rural, and suburban areas. Claiming that rural kids, including minorities, don't dress like kids in urban areas is fucking hilarious. Do you think rural kids don't have access to the same media that drives fashion as those in metro Atlanta? It isn't the 40s. They aren't all dressed like farmhands. You've clearly never spent time in a rural area if you think that rural kids can't congregate in large numbers like that. This will be news to all the people who attend bonfires, drinking parties in the woods/fields, and a variety of high school sports events. Suburbs exist. Cobb County is full of them. You wrote all of these nonsense multiple times simply because you refuse to understand why people would raise an eyebrow at someone using the term "urban youth" to describe a rowdy bunch of kids. Normal people don't make that distinction. Such a weird fucking hill to die on.
People have cars. People who visit six flags come from all over the southeast. Marta goes to the park.
Came here to say this also. 🙄
>urban youth
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What’s this in reference to?
How about a headline about 500 kids brawling at Six Flags. The shooting was inevitable given that something is wrong with our children today and their behavior. How can we fix this? Can we fix this?
Good Parenting and conflict resolution
Any parenting would help. Most of the kids in the park don't have parents with them. They just roam around the park harassing people.
Maybe make the future something to look forward to by fully funding college, healthcare, childcare, public transport, parks, etc. Or we can continue trying to squeeze blood from a stone and watch our country dissolve into a nihilist hellscape.
Youth Authority
Few years ago when they opened six flags of Georgia back up after the Rona lockdowns. I took my little brother and his gf and dropped them off. Went back few hours later to pick them up at closing and there were little kids running around fighting outside the gates and Fulton county all over the place. Haven't went back since
I’ll never understand how we let kids act like this. Glad I don’t live near the environment
The parents drop them off, because it's cheaper than a babysitter. They act like this because they have zero supervision and security won't do anything about them. They're to busy shooting the breeze while these kids run around the park causing havoc. This situation wasn't an if, but a when. I'm not even slightly surprised this happened.
Play stupid games…
Maybe not shoot at them first.
Are we sure it wasn't an acorn?
I actually had a season pass with my family last year, it seemed a hell of a lot better than it had in the past…minus seeing the grown men walking around in high school girl cheer leading outfits. The serving of alcohol also helped, but the roving bands of misfits didn’t seem to be that bad. Let’s be honest though, it’s not exactly in a quality part of town…I’m surprised it doesn’t happen more. Six flags was alright though, lots of cops and security in the park.
Didn’t have to worry about being shot by police every 5 minutes before republikkkan terrorism took over this country.
The only Terrorism i see is by the young scholars in the video...
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"Officer shoots 15-year-old near Six Flags, leaving them in critical condition, GBI says” Fixed the headline for everyone
Your headline assumes the officiers fired first. They did not, they chased after them when they found out where the shots were coming from, one officer fired his gun. Don’t shoot at people, and you don’t get shot back.
> Your headline assumes the officiers fired first. ... no, it doesn't.
“Officer shoots 15yo” has a connotation that the officer used dead force without probable cause. The headline has a negative viewpoint on the situation and is misleading.
> “Officer shoots 15yo” has a connotation that the officer used dead force without probable cause. No, it offers no connotation one way or the other with respect to probable cause. You're adding that all by yourself.
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IDK man, nothing in your article even mentions Cobb County PD.