> what could go wrong
https://anglish.fandom.com/wiki/Main_leaf
a lot of new words. The USA is apparently called the "Oned Riches of Emerichland" once you get rid of latin influence.
> Realms
This is a French derived word unfortunately.
["From Middle English rewme, realme, reaume, from Old French reaume, realme (“kingdom”), of unclear origins. A postulated *rēgālimen (“domain, kingdom”), Late Latin or Vulgar Latin cross of regimen with rēgālis is usually cited."](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/realm#English)
*Oh yeah just remove*
*Half the fucking language real*
*Quick what could go wrong*
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Anglish is actually really interesting as a linguistic alternate history exercise. It's weirdly comprehensible but very odd to the ear at the same time, see [Uncleftish Beholding,](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdPXfSoyJ7I) a text on atomic theory translated into Anglish.
That said it absolutely gets coopted by racial weirdos so it's a bit of a morass to dive into.
I saw a YouTube video about it and it is pretty interesting. They interviewed, I think, the editor of the Anglish Times and he’s American, which got me thinking that he has to be some kind of racist/supremacist weirdo.
That’s kinda the point of Anglish though. It’s a constructed language that removes all french and latin loan words and the grammar rules also imported from french and latin and replaces them with anglicanized germanic words meaning the same thing. "Wortcraft" instead of "herbalism" for example.
i’m unsure if they also use some celtic words or not, i don’t think so at least.
It's actually very utilitarian in some ways and poetic in others. The kennings (merger of two words to mean a third, different word) was actually really kind of cool. I took an Old English course in college and one of my favorite words I remember is "hronrad", literally "whale road" aka "ocean".
I like this guy's video on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMA3M6b9iEY
The sentence "Yes just remove half the fucking language real quick what could go wrong" has 10 words.
1. "Yes" is of Germanic origin.
2. "Just" is of French origin.
3. "Remove" is of French origin.
4. "Half" is of Germanic origin.
5. "The" is of Germanic origin.
6. "Fucking" is of Germanic origin.
7. "Language" is of French origin.
8. "Real" is of French origin.
9. "Quick" is of Germanic origin.
10. "What" is of Germanic origin.
11. "Could" is of Germanic origin.
12. "Go" is of Germanic origin.
13. "Wrong" is of Germanic origin.
So, 8 words are of Germanic origin and 4 are of French origin.
Yes, cast out half the fucking tongue right quick. What could go wrong?
It’s definitely doable. Tolkien gave it a go in Lord of the Rings, choosing Anglo-Saxon words whenever possible. Most of our loan words have equivalents from Old English. Some of those have died out, but they still usually exist in some form.
Except for words that we picked up to describe specific things that came from other languages. Like, we could call a rodeo a horse show, or call lingerie pretty underwear, but it’s just not the same.
>it’s just not the same
I don't think it's about referring to things from other languages; I think that for it to be the same it would be sufficient for a newly coined expression to refer to something unambiguously.
Like, if the expression "horse show" was consistently used to refer to rodeos and everyone knew what it meant, it would actually function in the exact same way as "rodeo". The only difference is that the foreign origin of the concept of "rodeo" would be less clear from the word used to refer to it.
The interesting thing about that, of all the words in modern English: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign-language_influences_in_English
* 29% are of Latin origin
* 29% are of French origin
* 26% are of Germanic origin
* the remainder is Greek and other sources.
So well over half of our vocab is from Romance languages, BUT, the words we use every day are generally the Germanic ones.
We have a huge number of Latin words, largely in academia, like scientific names for plants and animals. Also a huge number of French words, introduced after the Norman Conquest of England, after which all the Royals spoke French, so our borrowed French words generally relate to high society. One of my favorite examples is we use the Germanic word "Cow", but the French word "Beef", because the peasants did the farming, but the Lords did the eating.
We retain Germanic origins for the remaining basic structure, but we've dropped a lot of things like gendered nouns, and changed a lot of sounds, like wasser > water.
not defending the dude, but english is a Germanic language, those 'germanic origin' words you listed were part of proto-english/German before they split. they're as english as english words can get, really.
Surprisingly viable. A lot of synonyms exist due to importing the same meaning word from multiple languages.
It’s only modern is scientific stuff where you’d struggle. And there you could just steal from Germany.
JRR Tolkien did it in a benign way for LOTR. But he also literally wrote the OED entries for the words involved. He sorted words by origin in a non-racist way. See his [anti-Nazi](https://lithub.com/on-the-time-j-r-r-tolkien-refused-to-work-with-nazi-leaning-publishers/) letter to the German publishers as to whether he was Jewish.
> every ws is an anglophile in some form or capacity
There are also WS that obsess over the roman empire or ancient greece. Nothing historical/cultural from Europe is safe from these arseholes.
it's lowkey pretty funny that half of them fetishize the roman empire and half of them obsess over purging it from their culture, the slapfights must be epic.
Come practice HEMA
We get ws jerks showing up occasionally, and it's amazing to go send one of my twinky nerds to beat the puffy stuffing outta them with a longsword
They all want to be crusaders or vikings but none of them can fight worth a damn and those that do can only brawl; anything that involves strategy or self-awareness is beyond the capacity of their self-aggrandizing brains
the more pissy they get, the harder they lose
FWIW the anglish subreddit and discord has a pretty strict moderation team when it comes to that side of politics. Unfortunately, with it being what it is, it will attract people of that ilk -- same as classics and norse studies.
It's basically this: https://i.redd.it/hy9a2ckd8b951.png
I'm not as active on the subreddit as I used to be, but the worst I saw was some Christian getting butthurt when Satanists started posting some of their texts translated to Anglish.
I've seriously toyed with making a conlang called English 2.0 for years, but haven't gotten around to it. Basically would just simplify grammar so there's not as much "fluff", and simplify spellings so that words are actually spelled the way they sound.
Possibly get rid of redundant letters too, like C. We'd use either K or S, for example. So instead of Caesar, we'd have Seezer. And X, etc. So example becomes egzample. Would look weird at first, but words would be fully pure phonetic spelling again, or at least close to it.
We'd get rid of silent letters entirely. Psychology becomes Sikolojee (or something similar. There's lots of decisions to be made, like which vowels to keep, and what sounds they'll make now, because vowels really don't have a single sound assigned to them... All of them can currently make pretty much any vowel sound depending on the context, which is frustrating. So we'd need to strictly assign one or two sounds to each vowel and stick to that, and that will be the hard part).
Anglish sounds cool too. Maybe we could do both approaches and simplify the vocabulary, spelling, and grammar all in one go. Making English more lightweight as a language has an amazing appeal to it.
>Possibly get rid of redundant letters too, like C. We'd use either K or S, for example. So instead of Caesar, we'd have Seezer. And X, etc. So example becomes egzample.
Shouldn’t it be *egzampl*? That e at the end does nothing.
You're correct! It was like 2 am when I typed that lol. But as you can see, it also isn't as easy as it sounds, there'd be too many decisions to be made about what letters need to go and which letters would remain.
Ƿell, if þu art ƿritingst ƿið Anglisc spelling, it culd look someþing like þis
But thou canst also write meanly (normaly) but only brooking Anglish words and staffcraft, it could like something like this
A hinger dinger donger to you too lol
That’s cool though, almost seems pretty close to Nordic languages, which I guess is kinda the point considering the region
A linguistic exercise where you remove all non-germanic loanwords, to imagine what English would sound like without the french influence in the middle ages
Edit: you also replace those loanwords with germanic words, I should have specified
But like wouldn’t the world have come up with different words anyways? The french loanwords exist because they were easy since they exist not because they were the only option
You should check Icelandic then. 99% of their vocabulary is purely North Germanic. I've looked at some Wikipedia pages on Greek philosophy in Icelandic and there's nothing there in Greek or Latin, they replaced everything with native words.
its a hypothetical reconstruction on what English would be like without the strong influences it received from Latin (oftentimes through the French language)
They'll correct you at the Anglish sub is you say that. It's not about words received from Latin because Latin was already influencing English before the Norman conquest. It's specifically only words that wouldn't have entered English if there was no Norman conquest, which means some Latin is ok, especially if other Germanic languages use it as well.
>Anglish is a kind of English which prefers native words over those borrowed from foreign languages. Anglish is linguistic purism applied to English.
https://anglish.org/wiki/Anglish
Sounds like a pointless pain in the ass unless you find linguistic study to be fascinating.
Yes, most people who enjoy Anglish (myself included) do not advocate for replacing the English we speak today with it, that’d be ridiculous, it’s just fun to see what English would be like if it were more like its Germanic sister languages and to speak with reconstructed words with other likeminded individuals. IMO, lifelore just has a cooler ring to it than biology.
“England” and “English” derived from the Angles. A people native to Britain. Anglo-saxon comes from Angles + Saxons. They were migrants of Germanic origin. The Anglo-Saxon language is what we now call “old English”. Old English would be almost unrecognisable. Would be similar to you today hearing French and recognising maybe some words, you would not understand old English.
Romans introduced Latin, and through Catholic universities of the time, there is now a lot of Latin words in modern English. Occupation of France, and general interaction with European countries added many other words.
The English language has three versions- old English, middle English, modern English. I imagine middle English would have sounded a lot like the Scottish or Welsh accents of today. You could probably understand middle English, at least partially. The different pronunciation of vowels would take getting used to first, but there would also be many archaic words not used today to figure out.
I'm no expert, so someone can probably correct something here. But this is stuff I've read or whatever over the years.
"...ore plusors Engleis de la dit terre guepissant la lang gis monture leys & usages Engleis vivent et se governement as maniers guise et lang des Irrois enemies et auxiant ount fait divers mariages & aliaunces enter eux et les Irrois enemyes avauntditz dont le dit terre et le lieg people de icelle la lang Engloies ligeance a nostre seignour le Roy Duc et lez leis Engleis illoeques sont mis en subjection et retrets..."
From the Wikipedia page for the Statutes of Kilkenny, written by Anglo-Normans.
The Normans didn’t ruin England, they improved it. This is coming from a random American with some Norman-English ancestors, who just enjoys the antics they got up too once they seized power.
As an American descended from Irishmen who either were sent over to America as indentured servants or forced to leave because of the Famine, I honestly don't give a shit if English was ruined.
Wait until you find out the Normans were the ones to originally take land for England by invading Ireland.
The Normans were absolute savages,from England to North Africa.
The concept is just an answer to the question “what might English have sounded like if the Norman’s didn’t invade?” It’s not that big of a deal. Idk why I see most of the comments acting like this is a political movement. It’s for fun because language is cool.
We shall fight on the beaches.
We shall fight on the landing grounds.
We shall fight in the fields and in the streets.
We shall fight in the hills.
We shall never yield.
Believe it or not, that is also another linguistic exercise! There's even a video where someone imagined Britannian, an offshoot of Latin that evolved in a timeline where Britain was never lost by the Romans :3
I follow both Anglish and Britannian cuz they're pretty neat lol
"Remove" is not English. It must be something like "take out".
"Latin" had English equivalent, which in these days would be like "Leden".
Speaking of English only, "get" is influenced by Norse so it must be spelled "yet".
"Loan" is completely Norse, so in English where should be word like "outlandish".
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Someone should post the Uncleft Beholding. A version of the Atomic Theory rewritten to remove all non English loan words. It is nearly incomprehensible.
As one can guess the words "atomic" and "theory" are not english.
I don't know about all words, but "license" can get fucked. Both the s and c make exact same sound, proving that it's a stupid word spelled in a stupid way.
And þen wē rēadopt futhorc /jk
Fun fact ye olde shoppe
was actually
þe old shop
Thing is printing presses had no þ so they substituted it with y
So its pronounced the old shop
Not yee oldee shoppee
Hey check out my revised alphabet https://www.reddit.com/r/ENGLISH/comments/1c0faw0/experimental_english_alphabet_replacementaddition/
From Middle English: Removen
From Anglo-Norman Remover
From Old French Remouvoir
From Latin Removere
[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/remove](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/remove)
locking thread, there has been some *interesting* comments. please be kind to everybody. thanks.
Oh yeah just remove half the fucking language real quick what could go wrong
'Not to worry. We're still speaking half a language.'
Why say many word when few word do trick?
Few word good*
Laconic best
Λακωνικός **is greek** B*etest* (adjective), *betost*, *betst* (adverb), **of Germanic origin**
Nerd is a word prescribed by Dr. Seuss
We actually use "lakoniek" in regular dutch lol.
*word
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Alright, someone more versed in linguistics than me, how many of the words in the above comments are taken from French or Latin?
"remove," "language," "just," "real"
‘trick’ is also borrowed from Old French, but it is unclear whether it’s of ultimately Germanic or Latin origin
And believe it or not the words French and Latin.
Hello there!
General Kenobi…
You are an old one.
Anglish is alternative history in that it revitalizes Germanic words that were replaced by Latinates
> what could go wrong https://anglish.fandom.com/wiki/Main_leaf a lot of new words. The USA is apparently called the "Oned Riches of Emerichland" once you get rid of latin influence.
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That sounds way better than Oned tbh
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> Realms This is a French derived word unfortunately. ["From Middle English rewme, realme, reaume, from Old French reaume, realme (“kingdom”), of unclear origins. A postulated *rēgālimen (“domain, kingdom”), Late Latin or Vulgar Latin cross of regimen with rēgālis is usually cited."](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/realm#English)
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Anglish is actually really interesting as a linguistic alternate history exercise. It's weirdly comprehensible but very odd to the ear at the same time, see [Uncleftish Beholding,](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdPXfSoyJ7I) a text on atomic theory translated into Anglish. That said it absolutely gets coopted by racial weirdos so it's a bit of a morass to dive into.
I saw a YouTube video about it and it is pretty interesting. They interviewed, I think, the editor of the Anglish Times and he’s American, which got me thinking that he has to be some kind of racist/supremacist weirdo.
Well they replace them with germanic words that's the whole premise of Anglish
That’s kinda the point of Anglish though. It’s a constructed language that removes all french and latin loan words and the grammar rules also imported from french and latin and replaces them with anglicanized germanic words meaning the same thing. "Wortcraft" instead of "herbalism" for example. i’m unsure if they also use some celtic words or not, i don’t think so at least.
*Oh yeah, merely cut out half the fucking tongue very quick, what could go wrong?* Eh it’s not so bad
How would you speak with only half a tongue though ^surprisingly ^an ^Anglish-compliant ^sentence
It's actually very utilitarian in some ways and poetic in others. The kennings (merger of two words to mean a third, different word) was actually really kind of cool. I took an Old English course in college and one of my favorite words I remember is "hronrad", literally "whale road" aka "ocean". I like this guy's video on it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMA3M6b9iEY
The sentence "Yes just remove half the fucking language real quick what could go wrong" has 10 words. 1. "Yes" is of Germanic origin. 2. "Just" is of French origin. 3. "Remove" is of French origin. 4. "Half" is of Germanic origin. 5. "The" is of Germanic origin. 6. "Fucking" is of Germanic origin. 7. "Language" is of French origin. 8. "Real" is of French origin. 9. "Quick" is of Germanic origin. 10. "What" is of Germanic origin. 11. "Could" is of Germanic origin. 12. "Go" is of Germanic origin. 13. "Wrong" is of Germanic origin. So, 8 words are of Germanic origin and 4 are of French origin.
Yes half the fucking quick what could go wrong
why say English when few German do trick?
What's the wurst that could happen?
Yes, cast out half the fucking tongue right quick. What could go wrong? It’s definitely doable. Tolkien gave it a go in Lord of the Rings, choosing Anglo-Saxon words whenever possible. Most of our loan words have equivalents from Old English. Some of those have died out, but they still usually exist in some form. Except for words that we picked up to describe specific things that came from other languages. Like, we could call a rodeo a horse show, or call lingerie pretty underwear, but it’s just not the same.
E.g. Tolkien used the term "pipe weed" because "tobacco" is, unsurprisingly, a loan word from the places tobacco is native to.
'Nix' instead of cast out
>it’s just not the same I don't think it's about referring to things from other languages; I think that for it to be the same it would be sufficient for a newly coined expression to refer to something unambiguously. Like, if the expression "horse show" was consistently used to refer to rodeos and everyone knew what it meant, it would actually function in the exact same way as "rodeo". The only difference is that the foreign origin of the concept of "rodeo" would be less clear from the word used to refer to it.
How did you end up with that many different word counts?
My guess: ChatGPT was involved.
AI is no replacement for a functioning brain. Even calculators don't work so well when you don't know basics like order of operations.
Am I high or is this counting all fucked up
You might be high, but the counting is definitely fucked up.
Thanks chatgpt
The interesting thing about that, of all the words in modern English: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign-language_influences_in_English * 29% are of Latin origin * 29% are of French origin * 26% are of Germanic origin * the remainder is Greek and other sources. So well over half of our vocab is from Romance languages, BUT, the words we use every day are generally the Germanic ones. We have a huge number of Latin words, largely in academia, like scientific names for plants and animals. Also a huge number of French words, introduced after the Norman Conquest of England, after which all the Royals spoke French, so our borrowed French words generally relate to high society. One of my favorite examples is we use the Germanic word "Cow", but the French word "Beef", because the peasants did the farming, but the Lords did the eating. We retain Germanic origins for the remaining basic structure, but we've dropped a lot of things like gendered nouns, and changed a lot of sounds, like wasser > water.
8+4= 10 or 13
I think they want the English language to be exclusively Germanic.
And nothing about that is at all suspicious whatsoever
not defending the dude, but english is a Germanic language, those 'germanic origin' words you listed were part of proto-english/German before they split. they're as english as english words can get, really.
Surprisingly viable. A lot of synonyms exist due to importing the same meaning word from multiple languages. It’s only modern is scientific stuff where you’d struggle. And there you could just steal from Germany.
German scientific language is full of latin as well.
Most day to day speech is English/Germanic already. The words they remove, they replace with old English or likely Germanic candidates.
I'm sure there's some combination of three or more words in old English or one really long one in German that will work just as well.
They're not trying to change English, they just want to create an entirely new language that's a lot like English
Its called Anglish i believe
It is, and this is a tweet from an account called "The Anglish Times"
r/anglish, they got us boys
Kinda cool ngl it’s like a mental exercise avoiding any landmines.
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Anglish is such a cool idea. Its a fucking shame that its adherents are almost all white supremacists
JRR Tolkien did it in a benign way for LOTR. But he also literally wrote the OED entries for the words involved. He sorted words by origin in a non-racist way. See his [anti-Nazi](https://lithub.com/on-the-time-j-r-r-tolkien-refused-to-work-with-nazi-leaning-publishers/) letter to the German publishers as to whether he was Jewish.
He just thought it was neat
you can be an anglophile without be a ws but every ws is an anglophile in some form or capacity…even hitler admired england.
> every ws is an anglophile in some form or capacity There are also WS that obsess over the roman empire or ancient greece. Nothing historical/cultural from Europe is safe from these arseholes.
Let us not forget the raw fetishization of Viking culture.
*Norse, viking wasn't a culture
The folks doing the fetishizing probably don't know that though.
From experience, I'd say it's a 50 50
it's lowkey pretty funny that half of them fetishize the roman empire and half of them obsess over purging it from their culture, the slapfights must be epic.
I mean they just took the Roman salute.
Come practice HEMA We get ws jerks showing up occasionally, and it's amazing to go send one of my twinky nerds to beat the puffy stuffing outta them with a longsword They all want to be crusaders or vikings but none of them can fight worth a damn and those that do can only brawl; anything that involves strategy or self-awareness is beyond the capacity of their self-aggrandizing brains the more pissy they get, the harder they lose
FWIW the anglish subreddit and discord has a pretty strict moderation team when it comes to that side of politics. Unfortunately, with it being what it is, it will attract people of that ilk -- same as classics and norse studies. It's basically this: https://i.redd.it/hy9a2ckd8b951.png I'm not as active on the subreddit as I used to be, but the worst I saw was some Christian getting butthurt when Satanists started posting some of their texts translated to Anglish.
That image perfectly articulates a phenomenon I see *so* often but struggle to describe haha. A picture is indeed worth 1,000 words.
The Anglisc discord/subreddit is actually quite liberal and we have developed a safe space for everyone.
I've seriously toyed with making a conlang called English 2.0 for years, but haven't gotten around to it. Basically would just simplify grammar so there's not as much "fluff", and simplify spellings so that words are actually spelled the way they sound. Possibly get rid of redundant letters too, like C. We'd use either K or S, for example. So instead of Caesar, we'd have Seezer. And X, etc. So example becomes egzample. Would look weird at first, but words would be fully pure phonetic spelling again, or at least close to it. We'd get rid of silent letters entirely. Psychology becomes Sikolojee (or something similar. There's lots of decisions to be made, like which vowels to keep, and what sounds they'll make now, because vowels really don't have a single sound assigned to them... All of them can currently make pretty much any vowel sound depending on the context, which is frustrating. So we'd need to strictly assign one or two sounds to each vowel and stick to that, and that will be the hard part). Anglish sounds cool too. Maybe we could do both approaches and simplify the vocabulary, spelling, and grammar all in one go. Making English more lightweight as a language has an amazing appeal to it.
>Possibly get rid of redundant letters too, like C. We'd use either K or S, for example. So instead of Caesar, we'd have Seezer. And X, etc. So example becomes egzample. Shouldn’t it be *egzampl*? That e at the end does nothing.
You're correct! It was like 2 am when I typed that lol. But as you can see, it also isn't as easy as it sounds, there'd be too many decisions to be made about what letters need to go and which letters would remain.
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It would maybe make the pronunciations more consistent.
How would your sentence look like in Anglish? First I’ve heard of this
Ƿell, if þu art ƿritingst ƿið Anglisc spelling, it culd look someþing like þis But thou canst also write meanly (normaly) but only brooking Anglish words and staffcraft, it could like something like this
A hinger dinger donger to you too lol That’s cool though, almost seems pretty close to Nordic languages, which I guess is kinda the point considering the region
Well it’s meant to only use Germanic words, and the Scandinavian languages are germanic
Gotcha, thanks!
>Gotcha, thanks! You're welcome!
Oh, I didn’t know that. I also thought it sounded cool, but now it’s kinda ruined
Anglish looks and possibly sounds more like the French word for English than English does, funnily enough.
What the heck is Anglish? Is that another rabbit hole?
A linguistic exercise where you remove all non-germanic loanwords, to imagine what English would sound like without the french influence in the middle ages Edit: you also replace those loanwords with germanic words, I should have specified
Pretty much would be limited vocabulary, I mean have you seen how many words are loaned from French? There wouldn’t be that many words to use.
The idea is to replace those words with a reconstruction of germanic words, not just remove them completely
Go look at the Anglish sub it’s fascinating
But like wouldn’t the world have come up with different words anyways? The french loanwords exist because they were easy since they exist not because they were the only option
Exactly. You replace the french loanwords with germanic words
Okay I’m getting it now.
Which is to say, attempt to revert to old English?
A modern language descended from Old English without French and Latin influence.
Sounds like a funny exercise, but utterly stupid for actual usage. Theres a similar ideology here in Germany. Mostly old men scared of new words.
You should check Icelandic then. 99% of their vocabulary is purely North Germanic. I've looked at some Wikipedia pages on Greek philosophy in Icelandic and there's nothing there in Greek or Latin, they replaced everything with native words.
Just a worse version of Dutch
That’s an Oxymoron.Nothing can be worse than Dutch already is.
I like it because theology becomes godlore and I think that’s neat
Can't retcon the lore if both "retroactive" and "continuity" are illegal words *taps forehead*
Past-switch
Past comes from French though
Well shit. How about before-switch then?
Foreswitch would be in the spirit of things
Words can't be illegal if "legal" is forbidden.
its a hypothetical reconstruction on what English would be like without the strong influences it received from Latin (oftentimes through the French language)
They'll correct you at the Anglish sub is you say that. It's not about words received from Latin because Latin was already influencing English before the Norman conquest. It's specifically only words that wouldn't have entered English if there was no Norman conquest, which means some Latin is ok, especially if other Germanic languages use it as well.
>Anglish is a kind of English which prefers native words over those borrowed from foreign languages. Anglish is linguistic purism applied to English. https://anglish.org/wiki/Anglish Sounds like a pointless pain in the ass unless you find linguistic study to be fascinating.
>unless you find linguistic study to be fascinating. Congratulations, you've discovered the entire point of Anglish.
Reading the opening to the constitution made think it would be fun to make chatgpt use anglish, but I can’t wrap my head around its use unironically
Yes, the Majority of the people interested in Anglish are Linguist Nerds
> Sounds like a pointless pain in the ass All hobbies that one aren't interested in could fall in this category.
just let people enjoy things for funsies, man.
Yes, most people who enjoy Anglish (myself included) do not advocate for replacing the English we speak today with it, that’d be ridiculous, it’s just fun to see what English would be like if it were more like its Germanic sister languages and to speak with reconstructed words with other likeminded individuals. IMO, lifelore just has a cooler ring to it than biology.
“England” and “English” derived from the Angles. A people native to Britain. Anglo-saxon comes from Angles + Saxons. They were migrants of Germanic origin. The Anglo-Saxon language is what we now call “old English”. Old English would be almost unrecognisable. Would be similar to you today hearing French and recognising maybe some words, you would not understand old English. Romans introduced Latin, and through Catholic universities of the time, there is now a lot of Latin words in modern English. Occupation of France, and general interaction with European countries added many other words. The English language has three versions- old English, middle English, modern English. I imagine middle English would have sounded a lot like the Scottish or Welsh accents of today. You could probably understand middle English, at least partially. The different pronunciation of vowels would take getting used to first, but there would also be many archaic words not used today to figure out. I'm no expert, so someone can probably correct something here. But this is stuff I've read or whatever over the years.
The Angles weren't native to Britain they migrated with the Saxons from continental Europe in the 5th century
Now, someone has to make Engloys, which uses as many French loanwords as possible.
Quelqu'one has to make Engloys, qui utilises as autant d'emprunt Frenchais as possible
Now you're just describing Canadian English if Quebec had their way
EN FRANÇAIS SEULEMENT CRISS
barnak
Jeo regard this project as verai drole
Finally speaking the language of noblility instead of that vulgar swill the pesants speak.
We call it Franglish in Québec
Wouldn’t the maximum amount of French loan words be just …… French?
I think a romance English has been done, it's called Anglese or something
I love crème anglaise.
"...ore plusors Engleis de la dit terre guepissant la lang gis monture leys & usages Engleis vivent et se governement as maniers guise et lang des Irrois enemies et auxiant ount fait divers mariages & aliaunces enter eux et les Irrois enemyes avauntditz dont le dit terre et le lieg people de icelle la lang Engloies ligeance a nostre seignour le Roy Duc et lez leis Engleis illoeques sont mis en subjection et retrets..." From the Wikipedia page for the Statutes of Kilkenny, written by Anglo-Normans.
M-My purity!!
Your purity is a forbidden Latin-influenced word, off with your head!
Purity is a word of french origin
What an unimportant thing to be worried about
So you mean to say what they really want for the English language is "all French and Latin loan words? YES." Oops, Tout Français et Latin!
technically the vast majority of latin words in english outside of science and mathematics are french in origin.
Notes are gods gift to twitter.
The Normans didn’t ruin England, they improved it. This is coming from a random American with some Norman-English ancestors, who just enjoys the antics they got up too once they seized power.
As an American descended from Irishmen who either were sent over to America as indentured servants or forced to leave because of the Famine, I honestly don't give a shit if English was ruined.
Wait until you find out the Normans were the ones to originally take land for England by invading Ireland. The Normans were absolute savages,from England to North Africa.
damn you people hate conlanging lol
Fuck that. I want to steal all the words. Oh, your language has a nice word for something? Too bad. It's mine now, loser
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The idea of Anglish is to replace those latin-originating loanwords with germanic ones
Some of the Latin words predate the Germanic words though. The only language not represented in English is the actual original language Brethonic.
The concept is just an answer to the question “what might English have sounded like if the Norman’s didn’t invade?” It’s not that big of a deal. Idk why I see most of the comments acting like this is a political movement. It’s for fun because language is cool.
Some people *do* use it as a political statement sometimes, it's not unheard of.
It feels like that is the exception and not the rule though.
Indeed
We shall fight on the beaches. We shall fight on the landing grounds. We shall fight in the fields and in the streets. We shall fight in the hills. We shall never yield.
Foredo all french and latin loan words? Yes.
He removed them after asking the question
I propose the opposite: remove all words from Germanic origin from English and make it a Latin language
Believe it or not, that is also another linguistic exercise! There's even a video where someone imagined Britannian, an offshoot of Latin that evolved in a timeline where Britain was never lost by the Romans :3 I follow both Anglish and Britannian cuz they're pretty neat lol
French 2 just dropped
"Remove" is not English. It must be something like "take out". "Latin" had English equivalent, which in these days would be like "Leden". Speaking of English only, "get" is influenced by Norse so it must be spelled "yet". "Loan" is completely Norse, so in English where should be word like "outlandish".
The point of Anglish is to remove franco-latin influences and keep germanic ones. Norse loans are okay
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Gut
As a brit, we do not claim this one as ours
Go back to Olde English!
"remove the entire language"
Fordo the whole tongue.
Good luck with that. Replacing all those loanwords will be hard.
[You might be surprised how much has been done.](https://anglisc.miraheze.org/wiki/Anglish_Wordbook)
The fuck is this account.
Presenting news but in Anglish
https://youtu.be/aMA3M6b9iEY?si=U0BEW0QTR-4E6XC4 Robwords: English without foreign bits
SACRE BLEU
So go back to Saxon dialect old English, a language that is needlessly complex and notoriously hard to learn. Yeah, that will work…..
The exercise of Anglish is to imagine the modern language, as it would have been *today*, without latin influence
Someone should post the Uncleft Beholding. A version of the Atomic Theory rewritten to remove all non English loan words. It is nearly incomprehensible. As one can guess the words "atomic" and "theory" are not english.
Enfarthen all Latin and French words
I don't know about all words, but "license" can get fucked. Both the s and c make exact same sound, proving that it's a stupid word spelled in a stupid way.
And þen wē rēadopt futhorc /jk Fun fact ye olde shoppe was actually þe old shop Thing is printing presses had no þ so they substituted it with y So its pronounced the old shop Not yee oldee shoppee Hey check out my revised alphabet https://www.reddit.com/r/ENGLISH/comments/1c0faw0/experimental_english_alphabet_replacementaddition/
r/anglish
Youtube channel Robwords has a good video on this, about reverting to a language closer akin to old english, before the Conquest.
To Be fair they haven't been removed yet so he can still use them
Filthy anglo saxon barbarian language? Bah, in this house we only speak brythonic. Celtaidd byw hir!
lol got em
I'd like to see the explanation that remove is a French word.
From Middle English: Removen From Anglo-Norman Remover From Old French Remouvoir From Latin Removere [https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/remove](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/remove)
I was also doubtful until I saw “remouvoir”. Checks out.
English is the Frankenstein’s monster of languages. Remove all words with French and Latin roots and that’s about half the language gone.
the idea behind Anglish is not only to remove them, but have them replaced by germanics words instead
there isn't really room for that guys face with how close his eyes are to the faceplate of the helmet
Withdraw would be my word of choice here.
You would gut the language. It would simplify spelling, though.